I believe that we should have finished the job in Afghanistan before going into Iraq.

bayam on April 2, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Again, I go back to the WWII well. Should we have concentrated solely on Japan (The only one who actually attacked us) before going after Germany? Had we done that, by the time we had succeeded, England and France would have fallen to the Nazis and the German navy would have been shelling the east coast. When you’re talking about war on a global scale, you cannot limit yourself to one front at a time. We were sure Saddam had WMDs, and could not control what he did with them. Therefore, he was a danger and had to be taken out.

Has it stretched the military? Yes. Has it worked? Yes, Iraq and Afghanistan are a nice matched set of killboxes into which the Jihadis are walking in droves. Of the tens of thousands of Iraqis who have died in this war, only a small percentage of the non-combatants were killed by American bullets or bombs. The rest were killed by AQ and now they’re having to answer for it to their own supporters. Perhaps it’s a good thing we haven’t gotten bin Laden, it gives the Muslims someone to blame for all of this. If we keep doing what we’re doing, the Muslims may deliver the head of bin Laden to American forces on their own. I wonder if the MSM would cover that story.

Good article in LA Times about al-Masri here.
Note that it was the communication intercepts from the US that helped us eliminate Al-Libbi

A look inside Al Qaeda

“Yes Holy Warriors, we have killed tens of thousands of muslims but this is just a prelude to attacking the jews. We have to kill many muslims before we get started on the jews because, well never mind why.”

Who writes his lines? L Ron Hubbard?

Not since 2007 dude. Who knows if AQ in Iraq will pick up again this year, but they got whupped by the surge. Even the MSM acknowledged that.

Not since 2007? I thought we remain bogged down there in 2008. You’re right that sending more troops into Iraq made a huge difference- what McCain told Bush to do for years before it finally happened.

I respect your opinion but still find appalling the amount of treasure and blood that’s going into a fight against a relatively small part of the AQ infrastructure. I don’t think the US should suddenly leave Iraq, although the military would like to start transferring troops from the Iraqi theatre to Afghanistan.

And I suppose a better plan would have continued to bomb empty training camps and allow them to get away with 9/11 scott free?

We have hurt them. Recruiting is down.

But I didn’t say that invading and fighting in Afghanistan was a bad idea. I believe that we should have finished the job in Afghanistan before going into Iraq. Recent statements from the joint chiefs back that up.

bayam on April 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM

And I suppose a better plan would have continued to bomb empty training camps and allow them to get away with 9/11 scott free?

We have hurt them. Recruiting is down. People who used to support them or at least tolerate them are no longer doing so.

Well, he did manage to bog down the world’s greatest superpower in a small country and shatter the myth of US invincibility. Not to mention diverted a massive percentage of the US military budget to a fight against a relatively small number of al Qaeda fighters. Perhaps evil beyond imagination, but far from ineffective.

bayam on April 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM

The only reason those turds still exist is because we’ve been hamstrung by bleeding heart, PC libs and an enemy afraid to stand on the field of battle and fight like men. We could go apeshit and level the whole damned place but that’s not our goal. Wake up shit-fer-brains.

bayam:Bayam you either are drinking lib koolaid or
your brain has found itself in the Bermuda triangle
of the net!

Or,nice Liberal talking points!

Well, he did manage to bog down the world’s greatest superpower in a small country and shatter the myth of US invincibility. Not to mention diverted a massive percentage of the US military budget to a fight against a relatively small number of al Qaeda fighters. Perhaps evil beyond imagination, but far from ineffective.

bayam on April 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Not since 2007 dude. Who knows if AQ in Iraq will pick up again this year, but they got whupped by the surge. Even the MSM acknowledged that.

I’m actually surprised there were muslims actually questioning him about the high number of dead….maybe they will finally realize there are no virgins waiting for them.

Is that over?

What a piece of work you are bayam.