Obama-Gore 08? Dino. Good grief.I don’t care how they check up on foreigners on American soil, but I do not like this. Where is our Constitutional right to privacy? And speaking of observation, Garbage Men double as cops. That stinks.Immigration doe…

families who make $75,000 or more — a surprise to those who find themselves above that line, most of whom consider themselves solidly middle class.

Wow. I need to become a middle-class American.

It would seem socialists like Hillary would hold the VA up as their example.

corona on April 1, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Not that I like SS, but there was a practical side to SS when it was started because of the depression and politicians have since convinced a large portion of the public that it is a retirement program and has added other benefits over the years; it was supposed to be an “insurance” program with minimum benefits for those who fell into the cracks when reach old age and was far from universal at its beginning.

Politicians have certainly convinced my father, who is now 81 years old, that SS was a retirement with a trust fund; now trying to live of it, he constantly complains that it isn’t enough to live on. So I have to help him financially, as one must do. Yea, he was shortsighted, but he certainly was lied to by politicians.

Historical evidence indicates that there was a plan to turn SS into an annuity program after WWII but FDR died before it could be accomplished and under HST the idea was dropped. Probably only FDR could have managed to do it, even at that early date in its history. Converting it into a semi-private program as Chile has done with their system is impossible to get past the Democrats; as was proven when President Bush tried to do a partial privatization. The Democrats have convinced elderly people, like my father and my father-in-law, that what Bush wanted to so would strip them of their SS.

Just once I would like to see the Democrats taken to task publicly and forcefully for their lies over these many years about SS. That will never happen just as the Democrat’s association with our country’s miserable history of slavery and Jim Crow gets glossed over.

Ed Morrissey:
This election year has proven quite confusing to notions of rich, poor, entitlement, and exploiter. On one hand, we have Barack Obama drawing the line between rich and middle class at families who make $75,000 or more — a surprise to th…

Everyone will get equally lousy healthcare.

And the beauty is, the left can recycle all of the excuses they use to defend our overfunded, underperforming public schools.

Since Americans buy the argument that public schools can’t educate children because they’re too stupid and ill-behaved, I guess most will also buy the argument that Americans live atrocious lifestyles and that’s why our socialized health care system costs so much and has such poor outcomes.

PrezHussein on April 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Even given that, do you believe the government has the right to force that choice on you? If you believe that, you can give your money to the charity of your choice. Why does it have to go to the government?

B.O has said, once you earn over $75k a year the government has the right to take more of your money. Do you agree with that?

I guess my point is people are too material minded. Having kids and being poor is better than living to get the latest igadget.

PrezHussein on April 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Really? See I was talking affording a decent home, a decent neighborhood and a decent education for the kids- not crap.

PrezHussein on April 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM

What exactly is your point? That it’s okay to keep taxing us until we’re all living in poverty?

Whole Families of Immigrants get by on less than 50,000 in the places you guys say are too expensive for someone making 75,000.

PrezHussein on April 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Obama and Hillary just voted to raise taxes on everyone making over $32k, so don’t worry, those immigrants will stop getting by so easily.

SkyWatch on April 1, 2008 at 11:44 AM

You cannot afford a two bedroom condo in So Cal for that. Yet, you make too much to deduct your student loans, healthcare costs, etc. Is someone who makes $75k “poor.” No. But that wasn’t the contention. The contention, at least from B.O., was that they were rich and needed to pay more in taxes. So much for the middle class.

Not families, whole “families” of eight day laborers living in a house built for a single-family. And those houses are being foreclosed upon this very moment, all over the DC area.

Obama defined $75K as “rich”. Sure, you can EXIST on $75K a year in DC. But no one outside of a third-world country, will think of you as “rich”.