Did Scarborough question Obama’s manhood?
posted at 12:17 pm on April 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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We have the Outrage du Jour from our friends at Media Matters today. Joe Scarborough referred to Obama’s bowling as his “prissy side”, which sent the Left into a tizzy. Take a look at the video and see if you can catch the subtext in this exchange with former Tennessee state legislator Harold Ford:
During the March 31 edition of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist repeatedly mocked Sen. Barack Obama’s bowling performance — which Scarborough called “dainty” — at a March 29 campaign stop at Pleasant Valley Lanes in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Deriding Obama’s score, he said: “You know Willie, the thing is, Americans want their president, if it’s a man, to be a real man.” Scarborough added, “You get 150, you’re a man, or a good woman,” to which Geist replied, “Out of my president, I want a 150, at least.”
Later in the show, after NBC political analyst Harold Ford Jr. said that Obama’s bowling showed a “humble” and “human” side to him, Scarborough replied, “A very human side? A prissy side.” Ford asserted that Obama, who reportedly plays pick-up basketball, is a “heck of an athlete.” Later, Scarborough acknowledged: “I’ll challenge him to a bowl-off. But basketball — he looks like he’s in pretty good shape. I would just have to post low.” Switching to football, Ford also said to Scarborough: “I’d throw him a pass on you, too. I’ve seen you. I think he could probably take you down the sideline on a post route.”
Believe it or not, Media Matters goes into great detail as to whether MS-NBC misrepresented how many frames Obama bowled to get the 37. Scarborough and company say 10, while the scoresheet apparently indicated seven. This inaccuracy somehow accounts for the low score Obama achived as the extra three frames would have produced a score of 55 had Obama maintained his scoring rate from the other seven.
Jazz Shaw take is a lot more entertaining than Media Matters:
As we all know, competent bowling is a legal requirement for all real Americans. In fact 37 of the 50 states in our country require all citizens to bowl at least four times per year and achieve an average score of 80 or face severe tax penalties and or prison terms. This horrid performance clearly shows that Mr. Obama has been remiss in his legally mandated bowling requirements. The always calm, thoughtful, fair and completely nonpartisan Joe Scarborough was shocked – SHOCKED, I say! – and quickly reminded America of the constitutionally mandated minimum bowling skills for anyone seeking a seat in the Oval Office. …
I don’t think we need any remedial courses in secret code language for that, now do we? Prissy! Dainty I say! Look… as if it wasn’t bad enough that Obama doesn’t wear the requisite number of American flag lapel pins, but now we find out that he’s a lisping pooftah to boot?
Why did Scarborough spend so much time on Obama’s bowling game? Maybe he didn’t have anything better to discuss with Ford or Geist. Scarborough stopped offering anything trenchant years ago. Even at that, Scarborough’s clearly not making a serious point here, offering a joke about the seriousness in which people take these events. Media Matters just goes way out of their way to prove it.
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Harold Ford was a US Congressman too.
O-Dub on April 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I can only imagine what a sad, pathetic life it must be for those without a sense of humor.
Laugh, I say, loud and often.
JustTruth101 on April 1, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Spare me.
mymanpotsandpans on April 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Ah, the real issues.
amerpundit on April 1, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Come on…
You all don’t think that Obama is a MetroSexual?
Crap, Im 48 years old and I’ll take him down the sidelines on a Post… of course, he won’t like the “bump” at the line…. Mu HAA HAAAA
Its been a lot of years since college… but I still remember how to play Strong Saftey…
Romeo13 on April 1, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I think this just goes to show that Obama can’t avoid playing in the gutter.
And he can’t bowl well, either.
James on April 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Hannity joked about Barack’s lack of bowling skills.
Mildly amusing, but weak. Commentators who do this come off as shallow and insecure, you know, kind of like bullies.
CliffHanger on April 1, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I’m sure we can all find where Media Matters was outraged by this chump’s “Jeri Thompson works the pole” comments.
right?
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 12:30 PM
It’s near impossible for a grown man to bowl and not get at least 100. It just shows how out of touch he is with the ‘everyman’ American. I guess they needed to pull out the gutter protectors and treat him like a 3 year old like the press do with the questions they ask if they want him to succeed.
ThackerAgency on April 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Media Matters = Desperate
mattyj86 on April 1, 2008 at 12:33 PM
This is the problem with 24 hour cable news. There is only enough news material to fill 1-3 hours of quality TV if their reports do an in depth report.
The rest is crap.
SPCOlympics on April 1, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Hilarious. They should run this by Olbermann, what with his sports background and all.
In any case, everybody knows that the true test of a candidate’s manhood is his pancake flipping skills.
Buy Danish on April 1, 2008 at 12:36 PM
You think they would have learned from John Kerry and his football.
LevStrauss on April 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM
He should stick to bowling on the Wii.
roux on April 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I wonder if Obama throws like a girl. Anybody know?
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Was he using bumpers?
Everybody knows that African Americans have been held back in their bowling development by a racist American society. Bumpers should be used to level the playing field.
cat-scratch on April 1, 2008 at 12:41 PM
It’s not his fault, they just don’t build bowling alleys in Obama’s neighborhood. The soft bigotry of the rich and famous…
It is also likely that Obama campaign events that involve darts or horseshoes may have a bodycount.
rw on April 1, 2008 at 12:42 PM
A 37 is abysmal. Somebody needs some training bumpers.
(Larger truth alert?)
Vizzini on April 1, 2008 at 12:43 PM
This has to be the dumbest post I have ever read on this blog.
Scarborough, while thinking he was ‘funny’, only comes across as a petulant idiot. Jazz Shaw was at least legitimately funny.
A Axe on April 1, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Are you sure? We’ve had ro-po posts.
James on April 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM
If you bowl a 37 (or even a 55), you deserve to have your manhood questioned. If you don’t have the physical strength to bowl, don’t do it with cameras running. It shows a great lack of judgment.
TheBigOldDog on April 1, 2008 at 12:54 PM
You can tell who a real athlete is, by the way he handles the criticism. Dissing is part of the rite of passage, it comes with the territory, like throwing up an air ball, divots, hitting your partner on a serve, face plant on a break-away, missing the ball on a break, fumbling the ball, swinging at a ball in the dirt…gutter balls are there to laugh at.
right2bright on April 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM
My sons and I were watching this last night, and we laffed our arses off. Shouts of, “He’s a woman! He’s a woman” still echo down the hall.
Akzed on April 1, 2008 at 1:02 PM
And its interesting that the Press covers this…
But is suddenly SILENT after declaring the Al-Maliki surrender yesterday…
Of course… ops go on…
Romeo13 on April 1, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Hate to see him try to throw out the first pitch for MLB, might need need to do it underhanded.
Seriously, there was a ton of talk about what a gifted athlete Obama was. Playing one on one with Michele’s brother who is a college basketball coach. Running shirtless down the beach. More myth than man.
koolbrease on April 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Is it just me, or does Obama look like he’s wearing High Water skinny girl pants in that picture?
Like I said… Metro…
Romeo13 on April 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Let’s see him try some high heat from the mound at the National’s new park, then we’ll judge…….
davecatbone on April 1, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Anybody read the comments on Media Matters?
Those people either have no sense of humor or are way too easily offended. Or both.
budorob on April 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM
I heard Hillary had said she has bowled many 300’s in her day, while dodging snipper fire. And her friend Al Gore invented bowling ya know.
Actually is was Ted and Al. Ted had all these empty gin bottles laying around. And Al, fresh off one of his latest inventions, “the ball”, saw what could be the only logical thing to do with this combination. Roll the ball and knock down the bottles. And thus bowling, and drinking while bowling was born….
soulsirkus on April 1, 2008 at 1:17 PM
All the balls went far to the LEFt, he could not help it.
TroubledMonkey on April 1, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Hillary just challenged Obama to a winner-take-all bowl off. She offered to spot him two frames. She vowed to count every pin. Lot’s of nervous laughter from the press corp.
TheBigOldDog on April 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Bowl-off challenge
Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:33 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Clinton, Obama
From NBC’s Andrea Mitchell
In an April Fool’s Day newser, Clinton opened her media avail today by challenging Obama to a “bowl-off” in Pennsylvania.
She says its time for Obama to get out of the gutter. [Har, har.]
Now she’s taking real questions about how to handle the energy crisis, etc. We’ll have more on that ASAP…
*** UPDATE *** NBC/NJ’s Athena Jones has more: Clinton approached the podium and said this had been a hard fought race and that something had to be done. And then she joked that the Obama campaign needed to “get out of the gutter.”
“We don’t have a moment to spare, because it’s already April Fool’s Day,” she said, before going on to take other questions.
TheBigOldDog on April 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM
37?!
I mean, I suck at bowling, but come on!
frankj on April 1, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Anybody that bowls worse than me is simply unqualified to serve as president.
How is he at baseball? I understand W sent out a pretty good opening pitch recently. Isn’t that part of the President’s official duty? Anything that keeps him away from giving speeches in front of cubicles… (recent photo op of W. in Freehold, NJ)
cs89 on April 1, 2008 at 2:21 PM
I’m not sure that Scarborough’s jabbing at Obama’s masculinity would get much playtime, but if the Left goes off screaming about how Scarborough is calling Obama gay, it is going to make people say “Huh? Is Obama gay?”
And that just give Larry Sinclair the opening,,,,,,,
Kasper Hauser on April 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Acknowledgement is the first step to recovery.
Entelechy on April 1, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Sheesh 4 pins a frame’ll get ya 40.
Better than Obama’s average
MirCat on April 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Believe it or not, Media Matters goes into great detail as to whether MS-NBC misrepresented how many frames Obama bowled to get the 37.
I don’t consider one graph to be going into “great detail.” Furthermore, as pedantic as it may seem, I find the fact important.
Obama sucks at bowling. My four-year-old can see that. But that doesn’t give MSNBC license to lie. I don’t like it when they do it to my candidates detriment or benefit. They need to be able to report the facts.
Scarborough gets good guests because he’s in the old Imus slot. But he’s pretty flaccid as a host.
The Race Card on April 1, 2008 at 3:23 PM
37!
Anyone else having a good “Clerks” laugh right now? Oh, bowling a 37? Shoot, that’s almost as bad as the Clerks reference. Ok, not quite as bad.
Obama said he hasn’t bowled since the Carter years. Yikes. Is that how the Obama timeline works?
A 37 out of 300 is quite poor. In 10 frames that less than 4 pins per frame and less than two pins per bowl. 37 of 300 is 12.3% of the pins. In politics, you only need 18% of the eligible vote to win. So Obama’s not even close to tasting political victory if he’s so far behind in the bowling game.
On the video, Harold Ford doesn’t look too happy about being forced to talk about bowling. He’s trying to take a serious route and Joe’s just smiling over at him needling him with bowling chatter.
Stevie Wonder could bowl a 37.
gabriel sutherland on April 1, 2008 at 3:24 PM
OK…37 in 7. Even if, for the remaining 3 frames, he bowled strikes worthy of Kim Jong Il’s reported sports skills and wound up knocking down pins in adjacent lanes, that would still be pathetic.
And then, to top it off, he leaves the game unfinished! Was it that he became a poor sport, left his ball and went home? Or is that his best approximation of being ‘present’ at the bowling alley without establishing an official record? Actually, leaving things unfinished is how he wants to ‘frame’ his foreign policy, so upon reflection, I’m not too surprised.
By the way, is he really left-handed, is the picture backwards, or is he just dumb enough to bowl with his off hand?
James on April 1, 2008 at 3:35 PM
37! How did I miss that?!
- The Cat
MirCat on April 1, 2008 at 3:39 PM
James on April 1, 2008 at 3:35 PM
From what I’ve read, he is lefthanded. Also, he apparently left after picking up a spare (his only one, I think?) Maybe leaving on a high note?
cs89 on April 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Does anyone know why politicians do stuff like this? Nobody votes for people because they are good or bad bowlers, or ping pong players, or hop scotch players. It’s just an opportunity to look dumb.
thatcher on April 1, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Everything about this man is a fraud. I find it disgusting that so many people just drink the koolaid that comes out of this empty suit.
Winebabe on April 1, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Let’s say Obama grabbed a skateboard at X Games this Summer and does a kick flip. He’ll pretty much get the coveted skateboarding vote with one move.
What if it was a hunting trip and he comes back with an entire flock of geese?
I wouldn’t underestimate these tiny moments on the campaign trail. Basically what you’re looking for is what you think people will expect of you and then try to do one or many better than that. It’s enough of a psychological accomplishment as you can hope for.
If the President throws a perfect strike on opening day, how many more times do the networks show the clip?
gabriel sutherland on April 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Ford said: “I’d throw him a pass on you, too. I’ve seen you. I think he could probably take you down the sideline on a post route.”
Everybody knows that a post route, by definition, goes up the middle of the field, or toward the (goal)post.
Don’t these guys know anything?
Rhinoboy on April 1, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Well, if he didn’t, please allow me to be the first.
mojo on April 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
37? I predict that’s what percentage of the general election vote he’ll get. Just don’t pin me down.
McCain 55%
Obama 37%
Others 8%
I have to admit that my gaydar was going haywire when I saw this video. Ain’t nothing wrong with a little sugar in the tank!
SouthernGent on April 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
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