CJR: Why is the media letting Obama distort McCain’s “100 years in Iraq” comment?

posted at 7:15 pm on April 1, 2008 by Allahpundit

Is this a trick question?

It’s clear … that McCain isn’t saying he’d support continuing the war for one hundred years, only that it might be necessary to keep troops there that long. That’s a very different thing. As he says, we’ve had troops in South Korea for over fifty years, but few people think that means we’re still fighting the Korean War.

Nevertheless, back in February, Obama said: “We are bogged down in a war that John McCain now suggests might go on for another hundred years.”…

Since then, some conservatives have drawn attention to the distortion, and Obama’s been a bit more careful with his language. Today, for instance, he said: “We can’t afford to stay in Iraq, like John McCain said, for another hundred years.” It’s technically true that McCain said that, but Obama’s clear goal in phrasing it that way was to imply, falsely, that McCain wants the war to continue for that long. In other words, he’s gone from lying about what McCain said to being deeply misleading about it. Progress, of a kind…

This matters. Obama has given every indication that his general election strategy on Iraq and foreign policy will be to portray McCain as dangerously bellicose. If he’s going to do so by distorting McCain’s words, the press should forcefully call him out on it each time.

“Don’t we already know all this, AP?” Yeah, but it’s the source that makes it interesting. The Columbia Journalism Review, a trade publication of the industry, calling the media out early on one of the Democrats’ killer memes? Good lord. I don’t want to trend-spot prematurely but it’s worth noting that the reporter who asked Obama about Iraq yesterday also corrected him on the substance of McCain’s comment when he feigned ignorance (an Obama specialty, as we now know from l’affaire Wright). If the guy’s already ratcheting down his rhetoric for fear of the grief it’s caused him — and the RNC is gleefully keeping tabs — maybe this meme’s not so killer after all. Especially when even MSNBC’s choking on it.

Exit question: Would any other Republican besides St. John get this treatment? I want to believe.


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I dunno.

Maybe because they let McCain distort Romney’s statement about Iraq even more?

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM

Fair is fair, right? The drive by media will do whatever is in the best interest of the Democrats.

tarpon on April 1, 2008 at 7:20 PM

As he says, we’ve had troops in South Korea for over fifty years, but few people think that means we’re still fighting the Korean War.

That’s because we aren’t.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Yeah, but it’s the source that makes it interesting.

Most definitely. I saw ‘CJR’ in the title and said “must be a different CJR.”

baldilocks on April 1, 2008 at 7:23 PM

That statement doesn’t hurt Mav. Obama, Hillary, and the MSM keep acting as if America has no idea who the guy is. Besides Presidents past and present is there any more recognizable political figure in America? Maybe Newt, Bob Dole? Every time one of the Libs or a Lib media outlet takes a swipe at the Mav, his numbers go up. Just everyone get out of the way, Mav’s a big boy and can defend himself just fine. By the way, Mav is gonna rock Letterman later tonight. 11:30EST CBS. again, Reagan v Mondale Part II.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM

I guess it all comes down to what the meaning of war is and what the meaning of sex is and what the meaning of amnesty is and what the meaning of is, is and what the meaning of kumquat is.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM

And what the meaning of political promises is

William Amos on April 1, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Are you sure this isn’t another April Fools prank?

baldilocks on April 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Why is the media letting Obama distort McCain’s “100 years in Iraq” comment?

Why is the grass green?

Wouldn’t get up any hopes about imminent reformation of corrupt MSM.

petefrt on April 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM

From this newest picture:
I still say he looks like Apophus from Stargate.
Just add the gold helmet.

Change subject:
If Hillery were president, would any foreign leader believe
anything she said. How effective would that be in conducting foreign policy.

It has now gone beyond comprehension.

PS- She won’t drop out until, as Glen Beck would say, “her head explodes.”

esblowfeld on April 1, 2008 at 7:36 PM

I’m sorry, I’m kind of ‘toopid, being a typical white male, but why is it that “given the conversation we’re having, where we’re positioned right now is better for Senator Obama, than for Senator McCain?” Meaning, to be in the position of being guilty of [serial] rank distortion of your oppponent’s statements is better than, what, to be correcting the record? Or, it’s worse to be explaining why we need to have a presence in Iraq (for which there is ample precedence) for possibly up to 100 years, than to be floating a policy of a “strike force” of undetermined numbers in constantly changing locations? Why is it better to be appear an ignorant, opportunistic neophyte than an experienced, principled person who is telling it like it is?
You have to assume that all Americans are as ignorant of history as Obama, and you, too, Mr. Stuffed Shirt talking head.

smellthecoffee on April 1, 2008 at 7:39 PM

The meme is just begging McCain to have a foreign policy discussion with Obama. One that Obama will definitely lose, especially when he is being less than truthful about the quote. Obama wants to talk about the past when it comes to Iraq, not the future.

Why is the media calling him on it? Maybe they are trying to tell him that they have taken out HRC for him and that it is time to start moving to the center for the general election. They are just looking out for his best interests.

rw on April 1, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Especially when even MSNBC’s choking on it.

We know what they’re choking on alright.

SouthernGent on April 1, 2008 at 7:40 PM

The meme is just begging McCain to have a foreign policy discussion with Obama. One that Obama will definitely lose, especially when he is being less than truthful about the quote.

rw on April 1, 2008 at 7:39 PM

McCain was being a whole lot less than truthful about Romney’s position on Iraq and that seemed to work out pretty well for McCain. Not so well for Romney.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:44 PM

The dude who spoke after the anchor babe needs a sharp chop to the throat. Oops. Did I type that out loud?

Sugar Land on April 1, 2008 at 7:45 PM

This matters. Obama has given every indication that his general election strategy on Iraq and foreign policy will be to portray McCain as dangerously bellicose. If he’s going to do so by distorting McCain’s words, the press should forcefully call him out on it each time.

Just wait till team Obama runs with this one:

There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars.
- John McCain

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:49 PM

It’s not the media. It’s McCain who allows that. It’s very easy to disprove Obama. You just have to say a simple thing:

- I’m telling you, I know that 50 years from now Iraq will be South Korea. This is what Obama doesn’t get.

I think the election will be over that very minute.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 7:50 PM

There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars.
- John McCain

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:49 PM

America can handle it dude. They can’t get enough of the Straight Talk Express, and we all can enjoy more straight talk by watching MAV ON LETTERMAN TONIGHT!!! CBS 11:30 EST

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

McCain was being a whole lot less than truthful about Romney’s position on Iraq and that seemed to work out pretty well for McCain. Not so well for Romney.

And yet (this comes from a supporter of Romney) at the time I defended McCain’s “misquoting Romney”. McCain was technically wrong. However, McCain’s main point was right on the money about Romney wanting to hedge with a “timetable” line.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Yes, Rominee just couldn’t ever make a firm statement one way or another. That was really the problem. Our troops in the field need someone to stand up strong and have their back. Lord knows they have ours.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Who cares about McCain?

Come on, let’s be realistic, the stupid voters are so much into Hussein, they really don’t gave a rat’s ass about this “old fart” McCain.

“He’s old, man.”

“We want someone young and fresh. He doesn’t have any experience, so what? Look what those with experience got us into, Iraq and crap. Let’s give this new guy a chance.”

These are your “smart” voters.

Blacks or Whites, these voters share the same thought of Affirmative Action and racism.

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:03 PM

I am always suspect of these leftists, so I immediately went to the fact that Obama went to Columbia. Maybe this is their early Sister Souljah moment, getting their bona fides as legitimate media critics.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Jaibones on April 1, 2008 at 8:04 PM

There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars.
- John McCain

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 7:49 PM

America can handle it dude. They can’t get enough of the Straight Talk Express, and we all can enjoy more straight talk by watching MAV ON LETTERMAN TONIGHT!!! CBS 11:30 EST
THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Chosen haven’t you figured out by now that mb4 likes pisses in the cheerios?
If it can be construed as detrimental to McCain, then he repeat it.

ArmyAunt on April 1, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:03 PM

You’re spending too much time at Kos.

ArmyAunt on April 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM

However, McCain’s main point was right on the money about Romney wanting to hedge with a “timetable” line.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

That was not what Romney said.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Our troops in the field need someone to stand up strong and have their back. Lord knows they have ours.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Let me clue you in on something.

If some politician had gone over to RVN, let’s just say in 1971-1972, and said this could last fifty years, make it a hundred, he would have needed an armed escort to get out of country.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:12 PM

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:03 PM

You’re spending too much time at Kos.

ArmyAunt on April 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Do I have to do it myself?

OK, let me correct you.

Read what I wrote again.

Especially the sentences between quotations.

And tell me, are these the words of an Independent Conservative, as my nickname indicates?

Of course they are not. But I have to explain this to you and others who don’t understand my style of writing.

No problems.

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:13 PM

Chosen haven’t you figured out by now that mb4 likes pisses in the cheerios?
If it can be construed as detrimental to McCain, then he repeat it.

ArmyAunt on April 1, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Maybe you should visit this web site.

HELP PICK LETTUCE AT $50 PER HOUR FOR SENATOR JOHN McCAIN

You can probably just print off the form today, fill it out tonight and send it into Juan in tomorrows mail.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:17 PM

Rank Falsehoods We Can Believe In.

Vote Sauron 08 on April 1, 2008 at 8:20 PM

The Great Betrayal

Offering more “straight talk” on the Sunday before the Florida primary, John McCain made an arresting prediction: “It’s a tough war we’re in. It’s not going to be over right away. There’s going to be other wars. I’m sorry to tell you, there’s going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars.” Ike promised to “go to Korea” and ended that war. Nixon pledged to end Vietnam with honor. McCain says we may be in Iraq a hundred years and warns, “there’s going to be other wars.”

Take the man at his word.

Mimicking the Beach Boys’ “Barbara Ann,” McCain has joked about “Bomb, bomb, bomb—bomb, bomb Iran” and urged the expulsion of Russia from the G-8. He wants to expand NATO to bring in Georgia and the Ukraine. This could mean confrontation between Russia and the United States over whether South Ossetia and Abkhazia should be free of Georgia or ruled by Tbilisi, a matter of zero vital interest to this country. We are forewarned. John McCain intends to be a war president.

Where Bush has been at his best, cutting taxes and nominating conservative judges, McCain has been his nemesis. Not only did he vote twice against the Bush tax cuts, McCain colluded to sell out the most conservative of Bush’s judges In 1993, McCain voted to confirm the pro-abortion liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism, McCain formed the Gang of 14, seven senators from each party. All agreed to vote to block the GOP Senate from invoking the “nuclear option”—i.e., empowering the GOP to break a filibuster of judicial nominees by majority vote—unless the seven Democrats agreed. With this record of voting for Clinton justices and joining with Democrats anxious to kill the most conservative Bush’s nominees, what guarantee is there a President McCain would nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v Wade?

McCain also colluded with liberals to pass McCain-Feingold, a law that denies to Second Amendment folks and right-to-lifers their First Amendment right to identify friends and foes in TV ads before national elections. On ANWAR, too, McCain votes with the liberals, and on global warming he has moved toward Gore.

On controlling America’s borders and halting the invasion through Mexico, McCain collaborated with Senate liberals in the McCain-Kennedy amnesty, which was rejected only after a national uprising. When 190,000 Arizonans petitioned in 2004 to put Prop 200 on the ballot, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual could vote or receive welfare benefits, John McCain led the GOP congressional delegation in opposing it unanimously. Prop 200 passed with the support of 56 percent of all Arizona voters and 46 percent of Hispanics. Unsurprisingly, Juan Hernandez, the open-borders chatterbox and former adviser to Vicente Fox, has turned up in McCain’s campaign.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Watching every MB4 hate filled posts about “The Maverick” brings joy to my life. He’s exactly the type of “true conservative” that I’ve disliked my whole life. Most conservatives are cool and chill but MB4 types insist that every candidate meet a checklist and agree on every issue like a robot. Watching him squirm is almost as fun as watching….. you guessed it… MAVERICK ON LETTERMAN TONIGHT!!!!

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Watching every MB4 hate filled posts

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM

There you go with your leftist accusations of hate again.

Grow up.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Watching him squirm

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 8:27 PM

A consummate light weight like you make me squirm?

lol.

That will be the day.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 8:39 PM

I’m sorry, I’m kind of ‘toopid, being a typical white male, but why is it that “given the conversation we’re having, where we’re positioned right now is better for Senator Obama, than for Senator McCain?” Meaning, to be in the position of being guilty of [serial] rank distortion of your oppponent’s statements is better than, what, to be correcting the record? Or, it’s worse to be explaining why we need to have a presence in Iraq (for which there is ample precedence) for possibly up to 100 years, than to be floating a policy of a “strike force” of undetermined numbers in constantly changing locations? Why is it better to be appear an ignorant, opportunistic neophyte than an experienced, principled person who is telling it like it is?
You have to assume that all Americans are as ignorant of history as Obama, and you, too, Mr. Stuffed Shirt talking head.

smellthecoffee on April 1, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Obama is bettered positioned because this clown is changing the subject. Or, anyway, he thinks he is.

What he seems to be saying is “Forget that Obama is a lying scumbag; he was against the war from the start.”

We’re gonna be hearing a lot more of that until at least the convention. Hey! Didja know that Obama was against the war? And John Kerry served in Vietnam!

landshark on April 1, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Chosen haven’t you figured out by now that mb4 likes pisses in the cheerios? If it can be construed as detrimental to McCain, then he repeat it.

Probably because he thinks McCain will be detrimental to the US. Who can blame him?

Watching every MB4 hate filled posts about “The Maverick” brings joy to my life. He’s exactly the type of “true conservative” that I’ve disliked my whole life. Most conservatives are cool and chill but MB4 types insist that every candidate meet a checklist and agree on every issue like a robot.

That’s ridiculous. MB4 makes perfectly cogent points without (unlike say myself) displaying any emotion, let alone “hate”. If the conservatives you’ve met are cool and chill about abandoning every conservative principle there is then maybe they were really liberals.

aengus on April 1, 2008 at 8:49 PM

War Hero, hates wasteful spending, pro-life, limiting corporate influence so that you and I have equal voice, working across the isle instead of wasting taxpayer dollars arguing all the time, great tax record(regardless of bush tax cuts, see Allahpundit), demanded “The Surge”. Yeah he’s another bleedin’ heart Lib, alright.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 8:56 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 8:56 PM

It is becoming increasingly difficult for me to tell if you are serious or just doing one big running April fools joke.

Not only did he vote twice against the Bush tax cuts, McCain colluded to sell out the most conservative of Bush’s judges In 1993, McCain voted to confirm the pro-abortion liberal Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

McCain also colluded with liberals to pass McCain-Feingold, a law that denies to Second Amendment folks and right-to-lifers their First Amendment right to identify friends and foes in TV ads before national elections. On ANWAR, too, McCain votes with the liberals, and on global warming he has moved toward Gore.

On controlling America’s borders and halting the invasion through Mexico, McCain collaborated with Senate liberals in the McCain-Kennedy amnesty, which was rejected only after a national uprising.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM

War Hero

That’s a great measure of character but it isn’t a policy position.

hates wasteful spending

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

pro-life

Good. But I read he’s quite tepid on this issue and only adopted it to get elected in Arizona.

demanded “The Surge”

That was a great film. I can’t wait until “The Surge 2″ comes out.

Meanwhile, what about immigration? Legal or otherwise? Or is there any difference? He’s agreed to build a fence… around his garden.

He’s promised to consult with EU leaders before making any big decisions. Do you really want your POTUS consulting with that nest of vipers?

He’s no good.

aengus on April 1, 2008 at 9:15 PM

What’s the Haha on wasteful spending?

He hasn’t accepted $1 of earmarks unlike the hundreds of millions of most senators.

Being a War Hero to me is more than a policy issue, because I KNOW that when a decision is made to send troops that it is being done by a soldier who knows the gig. No offense to Bush, he was right to invade, but I do have more peace of mind.

You made a joke a “the surge” comment, so I assume you agree he was one of the initial authors.

I’m only thirty five and not old enough or haven’t seen any evidence to support or deny your claim on his pro life stance, but being pro choice in the seventies wasn’t exactly a posh position.

So that leaves us with the Border issue. I’ll end my response with this. If I who lives in the US, is comfortable with it, then you, a noble Irishman shouldn’t be outraged as MB4. He’s a rabid neocon with no bend in his positions.

He’s your next president aengus, begin the necessary preparations to get your psyche up to speed.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Because they can,the media wants to entertain for
John Q public is the perception that the US Military
will be fighting day in and day out for a hundred years!

The US Military will have a presence in Irag no doubt
for a hundred years,other than Liberation of Irag,the
US has an reach out and touch you sooner Military base
to keep the Jihadys in check!

The lefty media are going to spin at their political whim,
a Hundred years was not a great soundbite,but its out there!

I would perfer to play if a Democrat would of said the US
will be in Irag for a hundred years,than it would of been
why will it take Libs a hundred years,um,incompetence maybe!

The incompetence would of been Politics and not the Military!

canopfor on April 1, 2008 at 9:33 PM

That was not what Romney said.

I know what he said. I know McCain was misquoting him. However, I believe that McCain correctly accused Romney of being less than fully committed to the surge. It was fairly obvious to me. I thought Romney made sure to mention time tables to hedge himself in case the surge would go down. He did it extremely well and it was hard to call him on that. But I do think McCain had a reason to be pissed.

It’s in that spirit that I think Obama is in a similar situation. McCain never said “we will fight a war for 100 years”. However, considering the reality, which is that Iraq is nothing like South Korea, Obama is well within his rights not to recite the convenient mantra of McCain but instead talk about what the real effect of his policies would be.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Can we please cut it out with the “Juan”, “McShamnesty”, etc? DU-style name calling is pathetic.

The_Freeze on April 1, 2008 at 9:59 PM

The_Freeze on April 1, 2008 at 9:59 PM

MB4 hates John McCain. I think because he can’t stand hispanics and Maverick supports comprehensive immigration reform. So, to make himself feel better about himself, he continues to badmouth a great man because he didn’t get his way. I know its childish, but have pity on him. Look at it as a cry for help.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM

You made a joke a “the surge” comment, so I assume you agree he was one of the initial authors.

I’ve given my opinion of the nation-building Iraq project a million times on HA so you must’ve come across it by now.

So that leaves us with the Border issue. I’ll end my response with this. If I who lives in the US, is comfortable with it, then you, a noble Irishman shouldn’t be outraged as MB4.

I’m not outraged, I just give my honest opinion. I don’t like illegal immigration in any country, mine or yours.

He’s your next president aengus, begin the necessary preparations to get your psyche up to speed.

Not really. I don’t like Obama or McCain, yet one of them will be President. My psyche has already adjusted to this fact.

aengus on April 1, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Facile question at the onset of this thread, but the Usual Trolls seem to like it…………

aengus, you’re wasting your time

Janos Hunyadi on April 1, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Can we please cut it out with the “Juan”, “McShamnesty”, etc? DU-style name calling is pathetic.

The_Freeze on April 1, 2008 at 9:59 PM

No. Wouldn’t be prudent. Juan has fully earned that name.

Can we cut it out with any DU-style of trying to suppress debate? Or maybe I should say the Juan McShamnesty /Feingold style of “campaign finance reform” (aka, trash the First Amendment).

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM

MB4 hates John McCain.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM

MB4 does not hate John McCain.

You are rapidly losing what little sense you might have once had with that desperate hysterical leftist style hate retort crap.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM

McShamnesty /Feingold style of “campaign finance reform” (aka, trash the First Amendment).

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM

I’m sorry that Exxon and IBM no longer have a louder voice than you or I. Maybe we can get back to the good ol’ days where they could give hundreds of thousands of dollars to a candidate. Oh, by the way these very large purses that you defend are a large part of the immigration problem that you cry like a bitch about.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Look at it as a cry for help.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM

How about looking at your coming unhinged as a cry for a change in meds?

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Three posts in a row, a little defensive.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:39 PM

I believe that McCain correctly accused Romney of being less than fully committed to the surge.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Only someone who should be committed would be fully committed to “The Surge”.

Even General Petraeus has put qualifications on “The Surge”.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Three posts in a row, a little defensive.

THE CHOSEN ONE on April 1, 2008 at 10:39 PM

It’s called offense, silly one.

MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Even General Petraeus has put qualifications on “The Surge”.

Clearly.

Let me try it this way. If the surge went south in the court of public opinion, whose career would end right that minute? McCain’s. Romney would survive and he’d cite all his reservations etc.

freevillage on April 1, 2008 at 11:18 PM

MSNBC has started a new feature called “Teflon John.” They are going to focus on examples of the media giving McCain a pass. I suspect they had a meeting and decided that their endless coverage of the Obama-Clinton infighting is bad for the cause. So they’re going on the offensive. And they created this thing that plays into common antipathy to unfairness and entitlement.
It might also help if they got their viewership into the 5 digit numbers.

snaggletoothie on April 1, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:03 PM

IC, brighten up, Bro. You’re raining on my porch swing. The voters are not all imbeciles, although it’s hard to see sometimes. Look at the polls, and keep your powder dry; McCain is going to win the race, Bush is going to slap up some fence and keep us silly conservatives in line for the election, and we’ll come back in a couple years and piss and moan about McCain’s position on this or that.

Jaibones on April 2, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Indy Conservative on April 1, 2008 at 8:03 PM

IC, brighten up, Bro. You’re raining on my porch swing. The voters are not all imbeciles, although it’s hard to see sometimes. Look at the polls, and keep your powder dry; McCain is going to win the race, Bush is going to slap up some fence and keep us silly conservatives in line for the election, and we’ll come back in a couple years and piss and moan about McCain’s position on this or that.

Jaibones on April 2, 2008 at 12:04 AM

McCain is going to win the race?

Nothing is certain.

I wouldn’t discount the stupidity of the majority of the American voters.

We live in a Monarchy where the LOOK is king and the Media is the QUEEN.

Indy Conservative on April 2, 2008 at 6:58 AM

The Freeze – I agree. Use of “clever” name devices is juvenile and tiring. I seldom read a post past the first such occurrence. I wish worthwhile posters would get over that so I wouldn’t miss anything useful.

Immolate on April 2, 2008 at 7:15 AM

MB4, I respect your opinion, but I just don’t agree with the general outlook of the Buchanan-American Conservative folks, although I think they’re right about some things.

They’ve all but endorsed Obama for president, and they regularly feature articles by True Conservative® Glenn Greenwald. It’s certainly legit to have factions within a party, but I find I don’t have much in common with the TCs. Agree to disagree, etc.

juliesa on April 2, 2008 at 10:53 AM

The fact that they’re talking about it is better for Sen. Obama than Sen. McCain? Huh? Only a Democrat thinks people are that stupid.

BTW~ Are the people really more anti-war now? Is there a majority clamouring to end the GWOT? The MSM hasn’t really talked about Iraq that much lately except for the 4,000th killed. Says all you need to know about how much going in that direction will work.

Sultry Beauty on April 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM