Bold Bush move on border fence
posted at 1:10 pm on April 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Bush administration announced today that it intends on busting through the regulatory maze to get the border fence built by the end of the year. Using waivers passed by Congress, the construction will bypass environmental and bureaucratic rules to complete 670 miles of the barrier before Bush leaves office:
The Bush administration plans to use its authority to bypass more than 30 laws and regulations in an effort to finish building 670 miles of fence along the southwest U.S. border by the end of this year, federal officials said Tuesday.
Invoking the legal waivers — which Congress authorized — would cut through bureaucratic red tape and sidestep environmental laws that currently stand in the way of the Homeland Security Department building 267 miles of fencing in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, according to officials familiar with the plan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the waivers had not yet been announced.
The move would be the biggest use of legal waivers since the administration started building the fence. Previously, the department has used its waiver authority for two portions of fence in Arizona and one portion in San Diego.
As of March 17, there were 309 miles of fencing in place, leaving 361 to be completed by the end of the year. Of those, 267 miles are being held up by federal, state and local laws and regulations.
This would certainly give Republicans reason to cheer in 2008. The completion of the fence will take a lot of the sting out of the immigration debate, which has bitterly resented the slow approach taken by both the White House and Congress to securing the southern border. Even the waivers now will not completely silence the critics; after all, the Bush administration had the same waivers in 2007 and didn’t use them.
George Bush obviously wants to go out on a high note next January, and he wants to settle immigration policy or at least set the table for comprehensive reform. This shows that the White House understands the need to provide border security before any hopes of temporary guest-worker programs or normalization processes can be considered. It comes far too late after 9/11, but at least it seems closer to reality than at any time before now.
Does this affect the upcoming elections? It may make McCain’s past positions on immigration less of an issue. If the fence exists before he takes office, he’s not going to tear it down, even if he does start working on other reform components. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can’t exactly campaign on a removal platform, not with the popularity of securing the border in the US as bipartisan as it is. If they hoped to tweak McCain’s standing with conservatives by hammering on his immigration bills, this may have disarmed the Democrats on a major weakness.
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670 miles. Gosh, that will sure protect us.
Mr. Bingley on April 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM
I don’t know why the sudden change, but I welcome it. I am sure Ed is right. Bush wants to go out on a high note, and no progress will be made on immigration until we stop the influx. I am glad to see it.
bopbottle on April 1, 2008 at 1:14 PM
I can’t wait until they decide to start “busting through the regulatory maze” when it comes to using border land owned by individuals for the construction of a fence.
Big S on April 1, 2008 at 1:16 PM
whats the ceiling on how how bush can get his approval numbers before leaving? 45%?
jp on April 1, 2008 at 1:18 PM
I’m not so sure McCain wouldn’t tear it down just to irk conservatives some more.
Valiant on April 1, 2008 at 1:19 PM
In fairness to Bush, I believe that’s about all Congress approved.
amerpundit on April 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM
And it only took a little over 6 years [after 9-11] to make the border a little less insecure. After how many hundreds of billions spent in Iraq?
Go George, go.
OhEssYouCowboys on April 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM
i’ll believe it when i see it
JustTruth101 on April 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM
This helps McCain, it takes the border issue off the front burner.
Answer is now, let’s wait and see how the fence works, before making other drastic moves. McCain will be all for “securing” the border first, and this will “secure” the border (supposedly).
A great political move, now the economy, housing, and the war.
right2bright on April 1, 2008 at 1:20 PM
What’s the hurry Dubya?
awake on April 1, 2008 at 1:21 PM
At least that is better than the……exactly how miles have been built?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on April 1, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I don’t worry about immigration much any more.
The Mexican birth rate has fallen to replacement levels, meaning that in about 15 to 20 years there simply won’t be enough Mexicans to drive the illegal immigration engine.
I’m more concerned about making sure we culturally assimilate those that are already here.
Sackett on April 1, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Good news! I’m sure there would be a party on Free Republic… if it wasn’t offline. Anybody here know what’s up?
kc8ukw on April 1, 2008 at 1:25 PM
Like JustTruth101, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Geronimo on April 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Is there any evidence that a fence will work?
terryannonline on April 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Is that the real border fence? It looks like a wooden shadow box fence to me.
x-wing on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I will believe it when I see it. What I do believe is that 95% of the elected officials really understand the scope of the upcoming disaster that amnesty will wreak.
The Kosovo effect is rolling towards us at breakneck speed, and once these illegal cheaters are given a vote, it will be too late to repair the damage. Detroit, New Orleans, and Los Angeles are classic examples of how quickly local government can turn to $h1t when you put the rats in charge of the cheese. When it happens to federal government, we are done as a great Nation.
saiga on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
I am still half and half on it…whenever people talk about building fences I just start thinking about the berlin wall with checkpoint charlie….am I alone here in thinking that?
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
How ’bout an Executive Order?
Tony737 on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
670 miles is better than 0 miles. I’ll take it.
I donated to the minutemen HQ fence because I figured they would move faster than the feds. Damn, the feds are actually gonna beat them?
C’mon Minutemen, get it in gear.
Competition!
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
plus dont you just need a rope to get over a fence? I hear those are pretty cheap in mexico
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:28 PM
No, but you’re (respectfully) wrong. We’re not building a fence and dividing people that have lived together. We’re building a fence on our border to stop the illegal flow of millions of people into our nation, violating our laws, and posing a national security risk.
amerpundit on April 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM
What about our border agents Ramos and Campeon? If Bush is coming to his senses then don’t stop with the building of the fence…hurry and pardon our border patrol agents!! Geez.
jjcarrillo on April 1, 2008 at 1:29 PM
“… whenever people talk about building fences I just start thinking about the berlin wall with checkpoint charlie …” SoCal
Keeping your people in and keeping other people out are two totally different things.
Tony737 on April 1, 2008 at 1:30 PM
I know what your saying ameripundit and I have been for the fence for a long time….I just think that you can use technology and there are better ways to enforce the border than a giant fence…Cant you go over or under it? Will it even work? im just curious thats all
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Ooooh, wait, I just got it! Duh, me! hahaha Good one SoCal!
Tony737 on April 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM
I have a feeling it will never be passed and the eviro-wacko’s will go to all the State Courts even though it is a Federal matter.
So when are they going to build one on the border of Canada/Continental US and Canda/Alaska?
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Build the fence already. Enforce the laws, put the screws to the people hiring ILLEGALS! It works and they know it.
Enough already.
TroubledMonkey on April 1, 2008 at 1:33 PM
We could extend it by not building the Fence between Egypt and Gaza. They can build their own damn fence.
opusrex on April 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM
I have the audacity to hope this will actually happen. Meanwhile, I wish Bush would issue an executive order to drill in ANWR while he’s at it.
Buy Danish on April 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM
How embarrassing….slower than the feds. I want my donation back!
http://www.minutemanborderfence.com/
Well, not really. The little bit of fence they put up helped this rancher to secure his property, and I’m happy to have helped. And every little bit does count.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM
It’s not been proven as effective. And it’ll be at least 3 years before the virtual fence is even completed.
amerpundit on April 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM
What’s the rush, Jorge? It’s only 6 1/2 years after 9/11. Wouldn’t want to be precipitous.
Travis Bickle on April 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM
I wish Bush would issue an executive order to drill in ANWR while he’s at it.
Buy Danish on April 1, 2008 at 1:34 PM
(singing) “I second that emoooooootion.”
Tony737 on April 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM
And if they do? Can we all dance in the street? It will still take 3 years to pump anything and another 2-4 to get a pipeline to it.
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Thats all I needed to read…I just wanted to make sure all other options were exhausted before building something which we arent even sure is going to work. I do know that something needed to be done for sure…20 million illegal immigrants is 20 million too many and amnesty on top of that is a scary thing….I think you understand what im sayin
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:38 PM
I found this picture of part of the fence from Ed’s link.
It’s kind of underwhelming. Hopefully there’s razor wire at the top and on the other side after completion.
Canadian Infidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:38 PM
The original 700 mile fence was for a double fence, if that is honored and built it will work, and is easily defended.
Yes, border fences work, ask Israel; there’s a reason Hamas is big on rockets, they can’t infiltrate personnel at will.
If this fence is built, if it’s under full steam and on track at the November elections, GWB could not give Juan McCain a better election gift, eliminating his need to defend or fight a fence, letting him simply tap dance around what to do with the mere 12-20 mil visitors on this side.
Juan owes GWB a big gracias!
Maquis on April 1, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Oh, wait, can I play?
It is much smarter for the government to pay Boeing hundreds of millions of dollars to put up “virtual” fencing, so we can have lots of nice pictures of all the folks crossing the border. Maybe the technology will become so good that we can also have scans done so we can count all the drug resistant TB cases and other 3rd world stuff too!
Back to my old humorless self. — I share Buy Danish’s audacity and hope.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Well then we had better get started now….Its a way out of foreign oil dependency and even if it is only 3 years away that time will fly by….lets start the drilling!
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Keep dreaming.. I live in Alaska. You don’t think I haven’t heard it ALL! Good Lord they are taling about the snowy owl now and the nesting habits of the great northern stork!
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM
ANWR Si,
but you have to see this: US Oil Reserves to Increase 10X?
Maquis on April 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM
I pray for this miracle every day, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
Duncan Hunter would be one person that would strip all these promises down to the bottom line. I’ll go to his site and see if there really is a movement to achieve national security, (the most important job of our gov’t), and create lots of jobs, (!) especially for the immigrants in jail who wouldn’t mind working off the costs we pay for their incarceration. There are lots of solutions, it’s a crime that we don’t see them made real.
Don’t tease us now Dubya: Show us the fence!! Real or hi-tech, I ain’t picky so long as it works and while you’re at it, quit punishing the border patrol for doing their job, and then there’s that apology you owe us for sayin’ that the immigrants are: “Doin’ the jobs that Americans are not doing.”…and,
I better stop before i blow a blood vessel.
Christine on April 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM
I’m not impressed. I think it’s just inexcusable at this point. I mean it’s good to see they’re moving in the right direction I guess, but nearly 7 years after a catastrophe like 9-11 and our leaders still can’t get it together well enough to do something as simple as keep our borders safe? And for some reason, the idea of a “fence” turns me off. It’s like the Great Wall of China and look how well that worked. Why can’t we just fund more border patrol at the border? Get the right amount of agents and checkpoints and call it a day. But this issue is just beyond frustrating…we have more politicians that want to give illegals scholarships and healthcare than people who want to keep our borders protected….sigh.
mattyj86 on April 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM
And after it’s built, assuming it gets built, lots and lots of goodies for all illegals already here.
BowHuntingTexas on April 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Better than zero, and it’s a start. Let’s just hope it doesn’t turn into a running joke.
MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Reporter: Mr President, is it true that you have decided to put a real fence along the border with Mexico rather than that phony so called “virtual fence” after all? And a follow up question sir, if so what will the physical fence look like?
George W. Bush: Thank you, that is a very good question and yes I have. What will it look like? Well it will run the full length of the border and have special security gates every 100 feet.
All the security gates will have on them:
1) Press one for Spanish (with a response of “Welcome Amigo, please take a free map to the wonderful plantation owner employer of your choice”).
2) Press two for Arabic (with a response of “Welcome honored member of the Religion of Peace, please make yourself right at home and don’t be afraid to ask for any changes to our country that will make you feel more welcome”).
3) Press three for English (with a response of “Go to Hell you damed bigoted nativist conspiracy monger who does not want what is right for America!!!”).
MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Maquis on April 1, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Try Oil and Gas Journal by PennWell, the Drilling Wire by IHS and petroleumnews.com … I can recomend quite a few.
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 1:45 PM
That my friend is exactly how I feel
SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:45 PM
april fools?
offroadaz on April 1, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Put them every two feet, and them arm them enough to be able to fight off attacks from drug runners and their teams carrying machine guns?
amerpundit on April 1, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Alaskans deserve to have babies delivered too, dammit. Where’s your family values?
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM
LMFAO! Shhhhhh we aren’t suppose to talk about HOW they GET HERE!
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 1:51 PM
So the EPA outrules DHS? Yeah… that’s comforting.
Spolitics on April 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM
I believe that the open-borders crowd may actually build a fence across part of the southern border but their motives are disingenuous. Their goal won’t be to solve the illegal immigration problem but rather to create the appearance of a commitment to border-security that they hope will allow them to amnesty the millions already here without provoking a revolution. Illegal aliens will still be able to enter the country, (the open-borders crowd will make sure of it), and will do so in record numbers in anticipation of the next amnesty; if not the upcoming one then the one after that.
The only way to stop illegal immigration is through employment verification and workplace enforcement. The fence is only an expensive distraction.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Fences can’t be sentenced to 12 years for shooting drug runners in the ass.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Why the sudden change — Answer, contributions must be suffering badly. At the end of 2008 the Democrats will turn the border fence into a penguin directing traffic.
tarpon on April 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Which is why they won’t do it.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 1:55 PM
“Put them every two feet …” – AmerPundit
Or a sniper team every mile.
Tony737 on April 1, 2008 at 1:56 PM
A border fence right before the election. We heard the same tune just before the elections in 2006.
Two years ago this would have been great, even a year ago it would have been very good, now it’s just a bad joke and sadly the best thing we have to look forward to is Juan McCain.
RJL on April 1, 2008 at 1:57 PM
MB4 that was funny.
This is great news. If we can secure the border, then we can deal with immigration and the necessary guest worker program. We need people to work the fields, they need jobs. But we can’t just have people coming here willy nilly, making up SSN’s and getting government benefits.
The border fence is the START. A journey of a thousand miles starts with the first step. We helped Mexico build a border fence on their southern border, so it’s about time we help ourselves as well. This is definitely a good thing.
ThackerAgency on April 1, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Hold on there, back up the truck.
I’m glad the Bush administration is making the effort just no hoaxing, please.
http://www.firesociety.com/blog/107/23499/?src=111
Speakup on April 1, 2008 at 2:07 PM
FloatingRock Who’s this “they” you talk of? States that are passing and enforcing anti-illegal employment measures are succeeding.
The 700 miles of fence promised to us in 2006 might actually get built before the start of 2009. As I recall, lots of folks (including Ms. Malkin) said that the feds would never build a single inch of that fence.
I call that progress. Slow? yep. Frustrating? yep.
But do you think the dem party leadership is even gonna give you slow, frustrating progress on this issue?
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:08 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0401/p01s05-usgn.html?page=1
Kokonut on April 1, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Sorry, that comment was carried over from my previous comment in which “they” refers to the open-borders crowd.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM
OH you mean berkely!
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM
This is a defense issue … this is exactly the sort of thing the eminent domain provisions in the constitution are written for.
The feds should consider condemning ( and compensating the former owners for ) everything within a 1/4 mile of the border.
Level the property, and build a double fence at the edges. Make the area inside a military reservation. Authorize the use of deadly force inside.
Kristopher on April 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM
A fence isn’t progress; it’s a diversion from the real issue. And no, I don’t think the Dems are any better, both parties are subsidiaries of the open-borders lobby.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Yeah, if you look at the walls Israel is putting up, there are stats that show it has effectively reduced attacks from the Palestinians.
As for our border, it’ll help if only as much as the feds want it to help, if the fence is maintained, it should in theory reduce usable pathways, which, if the feds actually are interested in maintaining border security, this should help them by creating a kind of funnel effect by cutting off pathways and forcing illegal border crossings into a smaller area, which should be easier to enforce.
doubleplusundead on April 1, 2008 at 2:17 PM
A Fence isn’t Progress?
Wow, where do you live that you don’t have any fences? A Fence can keep people out of your yard, the cows not to wander, wildlife not to run off with your animals and possibly eating your children. And if it is high enough and with some nasty wire at the top, these peopel may think twice about jumping it.
So tell me what you think the “real” issues are?
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 2:19 PM
FloatingRock, sorry, but you’re starting to sound like Wesley Clark and his “New York money” men beliefs. Over the past year Arizona and Oklahoma passed strong anti-illegal employment measures, and illegals have chosen to seek greener pastures elsewhere. Here in Alabama GOP state senators are trying to follow that example. It’s slow and frustrating, like I said. But the GOP is much, much better than the dem party on border security and illegal immigration issues.
I live in a brand new neighborhood here. A year ago, 95% of the construction and landscaping workers were Hispanic, and most of them had very limited English proficiency.
This year? Lots of gringos, blacks, and english-speaking hispanics working together.
The political pressure is working….we need to keep it up, not just throw up our hands and quit because things move slowly.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:27 PM
That’s the problem. A double fence across our entire southern border isn’t going to do much good if the feds look the other way as the illegals go over, under and around it, and in all likelihood they will just come through the gates in the back of Mexican trucks.
There is no way the open-borders crowd is going to take any measures that actually reduce illegal immigration any substantial degree.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:28 PM
This will put a lot of demagogues out of business.
KBird on April 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Good fences make good neighbors.
Buy Danish on April 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Don’t forget Colorado with their anti-illegal and the State using the convicts to do the “farm” work. That has helped a lot!
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Ugh, I am probably one of the few females in the world who hates poetry! Thanks I think.
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 2:30 PM
If the employers don’t do jail, we won’t hail.
If the employers don’t swing, it’s got no ring.
If the employers don’t hang, it’s got no bang.
If the employers sail, we won’t hail.
If the employers walk, we will talk.
MB4 on April 1, 2008 at 2:36 PM
That’s my point exactly. The fence is pointless, the solution to illegal immigration is employment verification and enforcement like in Arizona, but it’s a federal responsibility not a state responsibility. The reason the feds aren’t doing it and are building a partial fence instead is because they don’t want to do anything that might actually stem the flow of illegal immigrants…. not if they don’t have to.
How am I throwing up my hands and quitting? I’m arguing that we should concentrate our efforts on what will actually work rather than allow ourselves to be diverted by a fence that won’t actually solve the illegal immigration problem.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Heh. I didn’t know CO was having inmates do that seasonal work. That’s a great plan, and it’s not like CO summer is so awful that you could construe it as cruel and unusual punishment.
There was a big article in our local newspaper about the AL anti-illegal employment bill, and a cotton gin operator was fussing about how he needed the illegals to work because he couldn’t find Americans to work seasonal jobs with no fringe benefits. I’d guess a nice work release program would fill that need quite well.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM
FloatingRock, OK, sorry to compare you to Wesley Clark. That was almost beyond the pale….
But, a real fence isn’t very expensive (vs the “virtual fence” which is hugely expensive) and a real fence will slow down the arrival of new illegals while the old illegals are self-deporting.
The two can work together and neither is a distraction from the other, IMHO.
I don’t have a problem with the feds building a fence along the national border and the states enforcing employment verification. It’s Federalism, baby!
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
It’s exactly the same as the Berlin Wall. That is, if the Berlin Wall had been put up by West Berlin to keep those poor, non-German-speaking East Berliners from coming across the border and illegally immigrating into West Berlin.
Ok, so it’s not even close to the same…..
tom on April 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
It also does very little good to deport an illegal alien rapist to Mexico if he can just walk back over the border the next day…..
Thus my enthusiasm for the fence.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Promises, promises. When it comes to quelling invasions, I trust my gun more.
Spanglemaker on April 1, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Back in the old days when I was a kid we used to climb over fences all the time. Around my neck of the woods a fence doesn’t prevent your pets from being carried away because some of those eagles, hawks and falcons are huge. Coyotes are very resourceful. My neighbor’s dogs used to dig under the fence to chase cars until they discovered how to jump over, now they’re out all the time.
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM
The “regualtory maze” that slows down the feds from taking private property is this thing called the 5th Amendment. It’s in the Bill of Rights, and frankly I’m appalled that so- called conservatives can be so cavalier about this fundamental right.
Yes, the feds can and should condemn some land, but not without due process. Also, compensation MUST include any value lost from being cut off from water rights in the Rio Grande. Anything less means we’re ok with totalitarianism.
Also, I’m glad that they’re going ahead with some of the fence, but I would get a huge laugh out of seeing them try to build a fence in some the canyon tributaries to the Rio Grande. Those canyons are some the worst in the world for flash floods, as anyone who’s been down there can tell you. All the chunks of concrete and asphalt tell the tale.
juliesa on April 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM
They’ll all be American anchor babies!
Darksean on April 1, 2008 at 2:53 PM
FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Interesting… but they had to “work” at getting thru the fence. Not all States are going to pass laws concerning illegals.
Maybe you are just thinking of a one sided area … as some in here are thinking in all sides. I agree on the laws, but can youmake the States do it? I like the idea of a fence, makes it harder to get in. I also agree with some of the States using convicts and those who have to small work release programs for petty crimes or DUI’s doing community service.
Think of broad terms before shooting down everything.
upinak on April 1, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Don’t forget that any fence still has to be patrolled and repaired constantly. Again, I’m not against having a fence in some areas, but it’s naive to think you can build it anywhere, and then just set back and your work is done here. As long as there is more incentive than disincentive, they will come. Some fencing will help, but it’s not a panacea.
juliesa on April 1, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I still support the alligator infested moat plan.
Grafted on April 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Is there any evidence that a fence will work?
terryannonline on April 1, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Is there any evidence that it will not?
Johan Klaus on April 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM
juliesa, you don’t really think the entire US-Mexico border is 670 miles long, right? We’re talking about completing 670 miles of fence.
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Like offroadaz, I think this is an April Fool’s joke. Question, if it’s not, how soon before Juan McCain tries to block it?
Zorro on April 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I wonder who the biggest seller of gas cutting torches in Mexico is, and if it’s a publicly traded company… I think I should invest before sales spike.
As everyone will discover someday, the only effective “fence” has to be erected in every American employer’s office, with mandatory instant ID checks.
RBMN on April 1, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Bwah-hahahahahaha. I really heart Bush right this second. Not only is he building the eeevil fence, but he’s trampling all over our laws and the environment to do it.
Rove, you magnificent bastard!
misterpeasea on April 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Viva Bush!
Exit question: Re: 670 miles – how long is the southern border?
CP on April 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM
I think that understates matters quite a bit. They have actively impeded border security every chance they got.
Meanwhile, the system to catch visa overstayers is still not ready, tweleve years after Congress passed a law requiring it to be implemented. Nobody is fooled as to what the Masters Of The Universe really want, and it’s not American sovereignty.
flenser on April 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM
As everybody will discover some day, our ruling class will never permit such a thing. It would impede their dismantling of the fourth branch of government – the American people.
flenser on April 1, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Wow. Who put the boot to Chertoff’s backside? 6 months ago he was all happy that the Sierra Club types were fighting the fence, right?
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 3:29 PM
As said before – it doesn’t have to be an “either/or” situation. Build the fence to slow the flow of new illegal immigration (yes, it does work – even if it isn’t hermetically sealing the border) AND enforce severe employer sanctions for hiring illegals.
For a final touch, eliminate any and all pork spending for sanctuary cities/counties/states. 1 – 2 – 3 and we start regaining control of our national sovereignty.
in_awe on April 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Typical RINO troll response. You deserve irking.
myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 3:40 PM
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