Bold Bush move on border fence

posted at 1:10 pm on April 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

The Bush administration announced today that it intends on busting through the regulatory maze to get the border fence built by the end of the year. Using waivers passed by Congress, the construction will bypass environmental and bureaucratic rules to complete 670 miles of the barrier before Bush leaves office:

The Bush administration plans to use its authority to bypass more than 30 laws and regulations in an effort to finish building 670 miles of fence along the southwest U.S. border by the end of this year, federal officials said Tuesday.

Invoking the legal waivers — which Congress authorized — would cut through bureaucratic red tape and sidestep environmental laws that currently stand in the way of the Homeland Security Department building 267 miles of fencing in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, according to officials familiar with the plan. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the waivers had not yet been announced.

The move would be the biggest use of legal waivers since the administration started building the fence. Previously, the department has used its waiver authority for two portions of fence in Arizona and one portion in San Diego.

As of March 17, there were 309 miles of fencing in place, leaving 361 to be completed by the end of the year. Of those, 267 miles are being held up by federal, state and local laws and regulations.

This would certainly give Republicans reason to cheer in 2008. The completion of the fence will take a lot of the sting out of the immigration debate, which has bitterly resented the slow approach taken by both the White House and Congress to securing the southern border. Even the waivers now will not completely silence the critics; after all, the Bush administration had the same waivers in 2007 and didn’t use them.

George Bush obviously wants to go out on a high note next January, and he wants to settle immigration policy or at least set the table for comprehensive reform. This shows that the White House understands the need to provide border security before any hopes of temporary guest-worker programs or normalization processes can be considered. It comes far too late after 9/11, but at least it seems closer to reality than at any time before now.

Does this affect the upcoming elections? It may make McCain’s past positions on immigration less of an issue. If the fence exists before he takes office, he’s not going to tear it down, even if he does start working on other reform components. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can’t exactly campaign on a removal platform, not with the popularity of securing the border in the US as bipartisan as it is. If they hoped to tweak McCain’s standing with conservatives by hammering on his immigration bills, this may have disarmed the Democrats on a major weakness.


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funky chicken, no, I know the border is over 2000 miles. A lot of people think we should build a physical barrier pedestrian barrier for the entire length though, and that’s the idea I’m addressing.

juliesa on April 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM

So flenser, the successful state efforts in AZ, OK, and CO aren’t really happening? The little stretches of fence really haven’t been built? The AL state legislature isn’t trying to pass tough anti-illegal employment legistlation? It’s all a mirage?

Sorry, but you sound like a troofer.

funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 3:44 PM

As said before – it doesn’t have to be an “either/or” situation. Build the fence to slow the flow of new illegal immigration (yes, it does work – even if it isn’t hermetically sealing the border) AND enforce severe employer sanctions for hiring illegals.

For a final touch, eliminate any and all pork spending for sanctuary cities/counties/states. 1 – 2 – 3 and we start regaining control of our national sovereignty.

in_awe on April 1, 2008 at 3:38 PM

funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 3:45 PM

SoCalInfidel on April 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Think of it in terms of The Great Wall of China, as in a wonder of the world.
ANY step toward a barrier is better than nothing.
Technology is great and would be an outstanding troubleshooting addition… but that high tech stuff relies on some type of power, which could translate into a weakness(I doubt that anyone would be connected enough to light off an EMP, but still even a bad a*s thunderstorm), nothing beats an actual barrier.
The governments inactivity and doofus mentality is maddening, no leadership with a side of solution ala’ bafoon. Being more concerned with getting reelected than doing the right thing is a disgrace and dishonor to this nation. Why don’t they try changing the concept while accomplishing the goal? Construct it in the terms of the beginings of a future lifeline… tell of american engineers and creative imagination, how they are capable of amazing feats… how ’bout instead of razor wire and machine gun mounts every 300 meters, promise life saving freshwater spickets every half mile. Gotta be a pretty tall and thick puppy to have a monster water pipe line runnin hunnerds a miles… irrigating immigration, everybody wins, ranchers, farmers, ETC… many wonderful benifits, economic and common sense alike, americans and mexicans alike… (then counter the way they do) what? you don’t like the idea? Well you must be against saving peoples lives.
Creative thought from congress, what an April Foolish thought.

christophercube on April 1, 2008 at 3:49 PM

FloatingRock, OK, sorry to compare you to Wesley Clark. That was almost beyond the pale….
funky chicken on April 1, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Yes it was; apology accepted. :)

Like offroadaz, I think this is an April Fool’s joke. Question, if it’s not, how soon before Juan McCain tries to block it?
Zorro on April 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM

After November at the earliest but more likely after amnesty is passed in ’09. Then things will go back to business as usual on the border.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Women who are in their last month or two of pregnancy can just walk into the US and give birth to an anchor baby. The fence will make it more difficult for these women. A fence can only help but it will take more. I live in Southern Calif and I vote for anything that will help even if it isn’t a hundred per cent effective.

Rose on April 1, 2008 at 4:11 PM

After November at the earliest but more likely after amnesty is passed in ‘09. Then things will go back to business as usual on the border.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Defeatism is a self fulfilling prophecy. I know many here will applaud your efforts to bash McCain, but “business on the border as usual” started back during the Reagan term. To place the entire burden of illegal immigration on McCains back is a cheap shot. (sorry to single you out as you are definitely not the only one that does it) Besides, I have yet to hear any politician on either side propose mass deportation. Even the most staunch critics of McCain seem unwilling to come up with a real plan for removing the illegals that are already here. You better hope the fence never gets built, because when it does, we will probably have an updated guest worker program and many that are here illegally will get citizenship.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 4:26 PM

so are Bush and Chertoff still using the “virtual fence” and the “vehicle barriers” to inflate the total fence built? we were promised a real fence, not a bunch of sensors that don’t work and some short concrete barriers you could hop over or walk around… if you only count the real pedestrian fencing, they’ve only built 167 miles so far…

thankful on April 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM

juliesa on April 1, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Yes you are right. The Boarder(s) are WAY over 2000 miles. Should we also do the coast lines as well? If we do we have to think of Hawaii and Alaska (not that I see a huge influx of illegals as of yet), the coast lines on all the eastern AND western States touching water.

How about we TRY the border of Mexico and the Continental U.S. and see how much it can or can not work before speculating.

As myamphibian said:

Defeatism is a self fulfilling prophecy

which I agree with and I am really getting tired of people who say one thing and turn around and do another. Put your money where you mouth is! If you don’t want a border…. you aren’t going to find many places in the world without one other then Antarctica!

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 4:33 PM

The only way to stop illegal immigration is through employment verification and workplace enforcement. The fence is only an expensive distraction.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Indeed. The laws exist today and need to be enforced. Alas, both parties, and their/our representatives, from both isles, for similar/different reasons, don’t respect them.

Fence talk is just a diversion. Many voters are uninformed dunces and don’t even know where McCain, Obama, Hillary stand on this issue, which is a hot one with both sides (excluding the far left).

Entelechy on April 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM

So long as there are steaks (yes the beef ones) on this side, the wasps will find a way to get over/through the border. Remove the source, and the drive will subside.

Entelechy on April 1, 2008 at 4:37 PM

To place the entire burden of illegal immigration on McCains back is a cheap shot. (sorry to single you out as you are definitely not the only one that does it)

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 4:26 PM

I’ve repeatedly referred to “open-borders crowd” and “open-borders lobby”. McCain is only a leader in the movement but the problem is much larger than he alone. To suggest that I’ve singled out McCain is false.

Besides, I have yet to hear any politician on either side propose mass deportation.

I haven’t heard many people here seriously propose mass-deportation either. What you’ve created here is called a straw-man argument.

Even the most staunch critics of McCain seem unwilling to come up with a real plan for removing the illegals that are already here.

Untrue. Funky Chicken and others in this thread have mentioned Arizona and other states who’ve taken steps to resolve their illegal immigration problems, and reports indicate that they’ve been working. It’s called attrition through enforcement and self-deportation.

The problem with straw-man arguments, Myamphibian, is that they have a tendency to burst into flames under scrutiny.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM

You know what would suck?……………

President Bush saying “April Fools!”

Seven Percent Solution on April 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM

I have a funny story about deportation… irony it seems.

I worked for a trucking company almost 10 yrs ago. My boss hired a man who was a hard worker, and said he was a mexican immigrant. Since I was in charge of the new guys for documentation and so on, I asked where his greencard was in which my Boss said he would bring it in the next day. 2 weeks passed before I saw anything. At that time I thought it would be great to have this man work on the INS Bus. I asked the INS guys if they had a book on faudulant documentation for documented workers. When I got the book and the interesting paperwork I knew was fake to begin with, I showed it to my boss who didn’t want to do anything about it. I went up the chain and eventually they let the guy go…. After he fixed the INS Bus.

I did tell the INS guys, with the president of the company standing next to me verifying my story. And INS did nothing!

States can pass as many laws as they want, but will business care? INS can say they do this or that and I have first hand experience that they actually do not.

I want a fence… I am sorry if you think the law works all the time. God help you if the law ever doesn’t work for youthe “one” time you want it too.

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Spare me the labor pains. Just show me the baby.

ronsfi on April 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Here’s my concern:

Thompson pointed out, and Arizona demonstrated, that if you begin enforcing the laws against hiring illegals, the illegals run home. This is a sensible solution to the “How do you deport 12 million people” problem.

If we build the fence first, and then start enforcing the law, we really do have to deport 12 million people.

With the fence in place, we’ll need to pass some sort of amnesty to let them go home peacefully. Think the Mexican government will cooperate? (Takes deep breath and holds it…)

philwynk on April 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM

For all of those that oppose the building of a fence I ask them to simply leave their doors at home unlocked from now on. After all, having that flat tv or all of that jewelry is just a motivator for criminals to come and steal them to have a better life. You are luring them into your home by having those items. Why both locking your door? If fences don’t work, neither will doors.

cannonball on April 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM

No fence! The maquiladora strain of the Sonoran Desert mouse needs free range land on both sides of the border, or something…

CliffHanger on April 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM

I want the fence done, but I want more: enforcement of the law, something our president and lawmakers are — or should be — criminally liable for ignoring.

Of course I also want Jorge Boosh to free Ramos and Compean, with full restitution, apologies and a return to their jobs.

But he doesn’t have the intelligence or huevos to do that.

MrScribbler on April 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM

You better hope the fence never gets built, because when it does, we will probably have an updated guest worker program and many that are here illegally will get citizenship.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM

I say let’s finish off the other 1400 miles THIS MONTH with a double-wide section of razor wire!!! That should fix the immediate problem until we have another election cycle to build a fire under Congress and the Administration!!

Only Congress and government bureaucrats could ever express publicly an idea as incredibly stupid as to try to secure our border with a government-designed version of the “invisible fence” used to keep dogs in the owner’s yard instead of a real fence. Then they’re SHOCKED that the electronic fence is a monumental failure!!! Apparently nobody thought it was their job to get the intruders to agree to wear the shock collars, stand up straight, and leave the fence plugged in!!

landlines on April 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM

I think we should improve on Rommel’s design for the Atlantic Wall and call it The Mexican Wall.

Waiving regulations to build a wall to defend your country from criminal entry sure beats spending your last shot on pardoning criminals that donated to your private stash.

Hening on April 1, 2008 at 5:24 PM

My question for all candidates:

For what crime(s), other than illegal entry to our country, do you propose that we award the ill-gotten goods to the criminal?

If a burglar is caught stealing your power tools and your wife’s jewels, would you want the judge to award the ill-gotten goods (the stolen tools and jewels) to the burglar, even if a fine were imposed? Would you be pleased? Do you think burglaries would 1) decrease 2) increase, in your neighborhood?

If someone is caught sneaking into our country, in order to “steal” residency, do you want Congress to award the illegal alien with the ill-gotten goods (residency), even if a fine were imposed? Would you be pleased? Do you think illegal entries would 1) increase 2) decrease, on the borders?

McCain-Kennedy, defeated once in 2006 and twice in 2007, would have awarded the ill-gotten goods to the criminals who stole them.

A double fence, as was built near San Diego, is needed. But we still need to enforce at the national level what FIVE states are now doing – removing the jobs magnet.

And it’s working.

fred5678 on April 1, 2008 at 5:29 PM

With the fence in place, we’ll need to pass some sort of amnesty to let them go home peacefully. Think the Mexican government will cooperate? (Takes deep breath and holds it…)

philwynk on April 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM

If the job market tanks, illegals will be run out of this country on a rail. Let’s see how blind Americans can be towards this issue when the many available jobs left are being done by illegals. I’m not talking HQ parking lots, but production, manufacturing and white collar jobs that have illegals in low paying positions.

President Bush and the Republican Congress sustained the economy, but things are about to “change”.

Hening on April 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM

President Bush and the Republican Congress sustained the economy, but things are about to “change”.

Hening on April 1, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Got a crystal ball to tell us the future? Cause “change” is something I like to get back via the dollar bill i hand over for a purchase.

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM

For all of those that oppose the building of a fence I ask them to simply leave their doors at home unlocked from now on.
cannonball on April 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM

In order for your analogy to work my home would have to be without heat, power, water, furnishings of any sort, food… not even a roof to keep the weather out. Why would anybody want to stay in a house like that? If illegal immigrants can’t find work in America they’ll have to go elsewhere to find it. No fence or door locks required.

But I’m not necessarily apposed to a fence as well, I’m just concerned that some of the people here are selling their support far too cheaply and quickly to pandering open-borders politicians eager to buy their vote but who will then, after their short-term goals have been achieved, drop the pretense about border-security and continue to serve the open-borders cabal.

It’s such a transparent election year ploy. If they were serious about ending illegal immigration they would do something similar to what Arizona has done, but apply it on a national scale.

You better hope the fence never gets built, because when it does, we will probably have an updated guest worker program and many that are here illegally will get citizenship.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Well good! I want a guest worker program, at least for a while. Why go cold turkey? That has nothing to do with citizenship and amnesty, however. Your overall point is still invalid.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM

This is BAD for McCain. His ONLY redeeming factor on the immigration issue was to “secure the border first!”. Now he has nothing else to campaign on that is any different than a Lib on immigration.

Vigilante on April 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Your overall point is still invalid.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Pretty interesting that you are only referring to these two individual when I have asked a question and even told you a story.

Sorry you are a total defeatist in my eyes. You can support the “guest workers’ in your own house. Have a good one.

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM

They need any help with that fence? I got a week’s vacation saved up.

Hog Wild on April 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM

From what i’ve gathered, stopping the influx of illegal immigrants is much more important to the American people than deporting every single one if them. Those that have been here 10 +/- years will not leave due to attrition, they have too much invested here to leave on their own. The young transient workers that are here only to work will be easy to show the door, the homeowners with kids in high school and a business to run, not so much.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Sorry for not responding, nothing personal.

What I took away from your story was that immigration law isn’t being enforced and that absent the law being enforced you’ll take a fence. My point is broader than that, that if the government doesn’t enforce immigration law they aren’t going to enforce the fence either, and for the same reasons.

Even if they build it they won’t maintain it when people knock it down or cut holes in it, or they won’t stop people from going over or around it. They won’t search but a small portion of the Mexican trucks they’re allowing into the country, making it even easier to smuggle in illegals, with or without a fence, because they won’t have to swim and walk, they’ll be able to ride in a truck right through our official border crossings. Some small percentage will be caught and sent back but there’s nothing new about that. Somehow they will get through and the end result will be that the process will probably be even more efficient than it is now.

The open-borders movement that influences our federal government and ensures that our immigration laws are not enforced is the same movement that will ensure a fence won’t slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

My point isn’t defeatist at all, it is just the opposite, that we’ll know Washington has learned its lesson when workplace verification and enforcement is implemented nationwide. Until we force them to do that they will try to maintain power through ineffective propositions like a portion of border fence that won’t really change anything other than methods employed by coyotes and how many votes the pandering politicians receive.

If that sounds defeatist, tough luck, that’s reality.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Is this an April Fool’s Joke?

baldilocks on April 1, 2008 at 6:22 PM

From what i’ve gathered, stopping the influx of illegal immigrants is much more important to the American people than deporting every single one if them.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Sorry, I’m going to have to burn down your deportation straw man again. BTW, it’s the same one I burned down earlier in this thread; you might try something different next time.

(Lights match) I’m against deporting every single one of them too—imagine that—and I’m being totally honest about that. What does that do to your deportation argument, knowing that I believe everything I’ve said in this thread and yet I appose deporting all of the illegals just like you?(straw man goes poof)

The answer is that your argument isn’t relevant to my position on the issue.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Too Little, Too Late (special thanks to The Who)

When you say you’ll enforce the border, we say too little
Too little, too little, too late.
When you say YOU really mean it, WE say too little
Too little, too little, too late.
You just couldn’t see.
Now it’s gonna cost you, your political legacy.

SuperCool on April 1, 2008 at 6:32 PM

If we build the fence first, and then start enforcing the law, we really do have to deport 12 million people.

Thompson mentioned “high fences with wide gates,” or something like that. I think the gate would open toward Mexico for those leaving, especially if they have their Mexican citizenship in place.

Unless I’m misunderstanding your point?

cs89 on April 1, 2008 at 6:39 PM

Is this an April Fool’s Joke?

baldilocks on April 1, 2008 at 6:22 PM

Must be, especially this part:

This shows that the White House understands the need to provide border security before any hopes of temporary guest-worker programs or normalization processes can be considered.

Good one, Ed! Er, you were kidding, weren’t you?

Here, let me fix it for you:

This shows that the White House understands the need to provide border security feels the need to indulge in a cynical and meaningless political ploy before any hopes of temporary guest-worker programs or normalization processes can be considered to help their open borders guy win the presidency.

Nichevo on April 1, 2008 at 6:46 PM

baldilocks: Is this an April Fool’s Joke?

HotAir really had me going for a moment. Good one!

ajackson on April 1, 2008 at 6:56 PM

If that sounds defeatist, tough luck, that’s reality.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 6:16 PM

You obviously have never had to deal… and btw you are a defeatist. I have never seen anyone so absolute about keeping illegal here unless they have some reason! I.E. you post to amphibian:

(Lights match) I’m against deporting every single one of them too—imagine that—and I’m being totally honest about that. What does that do to your deportation argument, knowing that I believe everything I’ve said in this thread and yet I appose deporting all of the illegals just like you?(straw man goes poof)

The answer is that your argument isn’t relevant to my position on the issue

.

I have noticed ONLY those who have this ARGUEMENT are the SAME JACK ASSES who have ILLEGALS WORKING FOR THEM!

Please stop while you are ahead. You are the reason why many real American’s stop using your services.

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 7:09 PM

I don’t worry about immigration much any more.

The Mexican birth rate has fallen to replacement levels, meaning that in about 15 to 20 years there simply won’t be enough Mexicans to drive the illegal immigration engine.

I’m more concerned about making sure we culturally assimilate those that are already here.

It’s not just Mexico. The population of Africa is roughly equal to Europe now, but by 2050 it is predicted to be 3X the population of Europe. I can dig up a quote from the president of some Asian nation, that when asked what she would do with a population expected to double in the coming years, said why of course we will send them to the West. This indicates that the developing countries view emigration as a viable solution to their population problems. The immigration problem is not resolved even if you remove Mexico from the equation.

DFCtomm on April 1, 2008 at 7:13 PM

I have noticed ONLY those who have this ARGUEMENT are the SAME JACK ASSES who have ILLEGALS WORKING FOR THEM!

upinak on April 1, 2008 at 7:09 PM

Am I missing something? It sounds to me like you think I’m a member of the same open-borders cabal that I’ve consistently trashed throughout this thread. We are on the same side of this issue even if we have different opinions on how to solve it, yet now you are siding with Myamphibian who seems to be in favor amnesty. That makes no sense.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 7:37 PM

That makes no sense.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Ohhhh…. I think I understand the source of confusion now.

When I told Myamphibian that I was apposed to deporting every single illegal immigrant I was trying to make the point that we don’t have to. Myamphibian is right that while it’s technically possible to deport most if not all of the illegals in the country, Americans just aren’t going to stand for it. The polls I’ve seen support this point of view.

But the point I was making isn’t that we should allow them all to stay, but that with employment verification and enforcement we won’t need to deport them all because they will deport themselves. My understanding is that Arizona’s program is a variation on this theme.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 7:53 PM

…my comment above was for Upinak.

FloatingRock on April 1, 2008 at 7:54 PM

The invaders have already conquered and divided many major cities around the entire Chicago-pukeland area. With hunreds of spanish TV and Radio stations broadcasting 24/7 all over our country, what good is a fence now.?? Although better late than never.!! Just pray when McGramnesty gets elected he has Mitt to handle this issue, and not his two sidekick 24/7 shadows,Linsey Gramnesty and Joey the compassionate to everyone except the American born citizen Libertyman.

Legions on April 1, 2008 at 8:15 PM

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Feedie on April 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Sierra Club executive director Carl Pope said in a statement. “We don’t think the destruction of the borderlands region is a laughing matter.”

Dense.

Has he seen the ‘environmental state’ the ‘borderlands’ are in after it’s been crossed?

Every time I go down to the Mexican border, I’m struck by a down and dirty realization: This beautiful land looks like a dump.

Recently I was at a waist-high border vehicle barrier in a valley northeast of Tecate, Baja California. As far as the eye could see, strewn past barbed wire or collecting knee-deep in culverts, were water bottles, food wrappers, used paper products such as toilet paper and maxi pads, even felt shoe covers designed to obscure tracks.

Reaps on April 1, 2008 at 10:16 PM

I will believe it after April 1 is over.

nemo239 on April 1, 2008 at 11:20 PM

The US government has absoultely no credibility on border fences. If they want me to believe anything they say they need to have an actual fence as evidence. Or is this HA’s April fool post?

snaggletoothie on April 1, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Does this affect the upcoming elections?

Checkmate. Rove- you magnificent bastard!

NightmareOnKStreet on April 2, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Promises, promises, promises, always promises. I hope he is serious this time, but our government’s history on doing what they propose about controlling the southern border is less than encouraging. I remember the same sort of promise after the 1986 amnesty.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me

amr on April 2, 2008 at 7:32 AM

Why is it we can spend billions a month on troops to provide for Iraq’s security, but not one dime for troops on our border to provide for our security?
Fences alone will never stop the infiltration of illegals and the drugs they bring with them. We need armed troops on our borders with the authority to protect it.

leanright on April 2, 2008 at 8:51 AM

What a bunch of bullshit. I have been living with this tripe about border enforcement since the early 60′s. Truthfully, I bought into the charade four or five years ago after 9/11 but after the song and dance Bush put on at the border signing I learned my lesson. There will never be a fence. Get over it. Sovereignty is strictly an election trinket. The “One World” folks control the playing field. They could care less if Al Qaeda swarmed across the border and blew up every border town—it would only enhance their big brother control. Think about it. The next terror attack will bring even larger demands for more government.

Had Bush and company been serious about the border it would have been taken care of years ago by Army corp of engineers and built within two years. The fact that it wasn’t tells you every thing you need to know about the supposed threat from terrorists etc at the border. As for the millions of 8th grade drop outs that flood across the border they don’t care. This country hates itself in large enough numbers such that we willing to wilt and die much as Europe is doing now. As the saying goes, all great empires are conquered from within not from without.

The pain we are feeling is the fork stuck in our side. We are done. Get over it and go enjoy the rest of your life.

patrick neid on April 2, 2008 at 8:53 AM

I wish they’d get past taxes and regulation to lower gas prices!

tai-pan on April 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

1) job verifcation: to keep those coming here looking for jobs from getting them.
2) fence: to keep those coming here to kill us from getting in.
3) fence: to know that those that sneak in, do so intentally and should NOT be afforded any protections, services or rights due leagal US citizens and residents.
4) global hawk: to take care of those Mexican troops escorting the drug dealers across the border – see #3.

rgranger on April 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Good Fences Make Good Neighbors all the more reason that I’ll believe it when it happens.

moxie_neanderthal on April 2, 2008 at 8:14 PM

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