Video: Obama distorts McCain’s “100 years in Iraq” comment again
posted at 5:25 pm on March 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Shocking. Not that he’d distort it; that’s politics. What’s shocking is the fact that the reporter presses him on it and clarifies what McCain meant (which Obama already knows, natch), backing him into the very stupid assertion that Maverick wants a Germany/Japan-type occupation of Iraq that’s somehow going to cost us $150 billion a year for decades and decades and decades. “It’s seldom that you see such a dirty lie,” said Krauthammer of this subject not long ago. Prepare yourselves to see it again and again and again.
Exit question: He wants to know how Bush and McCain define victory. How does he define it?
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Simple: “I win, America loses.”
ThePrez on March 31, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Wow. He’s really bad when he doesn’t have a prepared text. That being said, if this is the debate he wants to hang his hat on in the general, I say bring it on. McCain will mop the floor with him.
TX Mom on March 31, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Dems dont talk “Victory” foreign policy is only a UN style “We will give you hand outs to make you not attack us” policy.
War is national and tribal but socialism is international
William Amos on March 31, 2008 at 5:32 PM
He defines victory as: when the white house turns into “the great mosque of the nation of islam”!
SaintOlaf on March 31, 2008 at 5:34 PM
How does he define it? As America finally surrendering in Iraq.
amerpundit on March 31, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I wish the questioner had asked Obama if he then intended to also remove troops from South Korea, Japan and wherever else a military presence has been maintained for “decades”. I have a feeling that by the time he is finished downsizing the military, should he have the opportunity, the Pearl Harbor Memorial will be operated by the local scout troop.
Syd B. on March 31, 2008 at 5:34 PM
It isn’t really a lie though. The entire point of the Germany/Japan/Korea analogy is to dismiss the complaints of those who wonder when the war will end, and when we’ll pull back troops.
Typhonsentra on March 31, 2008 at 5:34 PM
If he plans on using that 100 year line in a debate with McCain, he better be ready to get blasted with a response that will have been fine tuned in the months leading up to the debate.
rw on March 31, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Obama and his “strike force.” I wonder when we’ll get specifics on just what that is/means. Will they be based in Okanwa?
VolMagic on March 31, 2008 at 5:35 PM
What a wonderful speaker!
MikeZero on March 31, 2008 at 5:35 PM
So Obama would find it to be an unfavourable situation if Iraq were to end up like Germany and Japan? Whaaaa?
So does that mean he doesn’t like US troops stationed in Germany, Japan and South Korea?
gumble on March 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Dear Mr. Obama,
What is YOUR plan for victory in Iraq? Do you believe that AQ in Iraq will just wither away if we take our troops out?
Who has bigger brass balls… you or Hillary.
originalpechanga on March 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM
What a dick. He asked the question because he wanted an insurance policy. Later, he can say, “I asked if I was quoting McCain, and they didn’t argue.”
The good news is, in the general election, it’s going to be really easy to tar and feather him with his own words. The commercial would be something like this: “Obama claims to be different. (roll clips) Does he sound different to you?”
Splashman on March 31, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Limpness
Entelechy on March 31, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Not a very impressive clip. The “embassy force” cop-out was pathetic.
The_Freeze on March 31, 2008 at 5:44 PM
It’s not so much a lie as a mis-characterization. He is implying that McCain has no problem funding the troops in Iraq at the current level for the next 100 years (as opposed to the much, much lower levels of troops that we have in Germany and Japan). He is implying that it is an occupation force, which it is not; it was originally a liberation force and is now a policing force. He is characterizing the Iraq front in the war as a never-ending-at-this- level-of-conflict-until-we-pull-out scenario rather than what McCain was stating which was a we-will-be-there-until-we-win-and-then-make-them-allies-like -Japan-and-Germany scenario. Obama is purposefully stating things in a certain way so that those who are not paying attention will believe that McCain wants and will deliver something completely different from what he wants and will deliver.
Theophile on March 31, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Obama is an arrogant jerk. Nobody presses this guy. Journalists should be embarrassed.
jencab on March 31, 2008 at 5:48 PM
He has no clue
Let the hard questions be asked
Kini on March 31, 2008 at 5:49 PM
And if Obama thinks a super-duper special strike force is the best option for Iraq, then wouldn’t that same strategy be something he should be proposing in Afghanistan?
I don’t think I’ve heard Obama call for a huge troop withdrawl from Afghanistan (or has he?)
I wish some people in the media would ask these type of questions to make sense of Obama’s policies.
gumble on March 31, 2008 at 5:51 PM
If the McCain campaign and the RNC are smart, they’ll record this clip (especially the stumbles) and replay it in commercials in the fall.
aunursa on March 31, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Now wonder Michelle O. is angry!
brtex on March 31, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Obama, “uhh ah uh yea you know.. ”
“Artikulate.” LMAO >:D
Chakra Hammer on March 31, 2008 at 5:54 PM
But McCain only wants to make nice with enemies. He’d probably stop any effective ad for fear of looking mean or dirty.
With the Obama Tsunami headed our direction I don’t know whether to try and run or just cover my head and hold my breath.
NTWR on March 31, 2008 at 5:54 PM
McCain will kill this guy in a debate.
D2Boston on March 31, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Apparently its unfair to tie Obama to Wright after a 20 year relationship but that logic doesnt apply with tying Bush to McCain according to the bringer of hope.
V15J on March 31, 2008 at 5:56 PM
McCain be may unwilling to hit Obama now but that is because his campaign is being smart; let the two dems hammer away while he stays out of it.
Once the actual nominee debates begin Obama will have to fire out all these lame suggestions and McCain is going to rake him over the coals for it. “Strikeforce”? Jeebus, its like Obama’s military acumen stems from reading the back of GI Joe™ toy packaging. He might as well advocate that the army uses its fleet of ‘Stealth Hovercraft With Detachable Jet-Pack and Demon Blast Missile Launcher’ to attack terrorists.
I personally hope that McCain shoves his vet status right back in the fat face of every dem who claimed that Kerry was the better candidate in 2004 because his combat record trumped Bush’s ANG service. He can start with Obama.
Bishop on March 31, 2008 at 5:56 PM
I was moved to tears by his answer an an electric charge surged down my left leg, out my big toe, across the floor, and zapped the cat to the ceiling where he now hangs smoking and crackling upside down by his claws.
Rod on March 31, 2008 at 5:56 PM
The closer he is to the heat, the more he stammers, waves his hand, and blinks. His tells are so obvious.
He’s used to favorable press coverage. He’s not used to an environment where there are actually tough follow up questions – and it shows.
yo on March 31, 2008 at 5:59 PM
That bit about leaving forces behind to protect the embassy is just begging for someone to ask if the force tasked with such a mission would be comparable in size and equipment to those protecting other American embassies, such as the one in Tehran.
rw on March 31, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Then I guess he wants us out of Serbia too. Does he have an exit strategy for Serbia? We’ve been there for 10 years with no timeline for withdrawl.
Or Germany? What’s Barry’s plan to get us out of the quagmire in Germany? We’ve been there since 1945 with NO END in SIGHT! Holy crap! We invaded their country and stayed for 60+ years. And the German people certainly never crashed planes into buildings in NYC.
What’s really shocking is that there is an isolationist group on the left who would have us remove our troops from South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc. ‘Bring our boys home’ and all that.
Vote Sauron 08 on March 31, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Exactly. . . .And they make fun of GW . . .Huh !! GW would rip B. Hussein a new one in a debate and he wouldn’t even realize it. So will McCain.
Texyank on March 31, 2008 at 6:08 PM
I wouldn’t mind if we pulled our troops from Europe; let the euros stand on their own for once and spend their own money on defense.
Bishop on March 31, 2008 at 6:08 PM
I really wish somebody would just ask him:
1) Did we “win” World War II?
2) Do you support continued nominal American presences in Japan, Germany, the rest of Europe, Japan, etc.?
3) OR ARE WE STILL AT WAR WITH THOSE PLACE?
And if he’s sane enough to recognize that we haven’t actually been at war with Germany for 70 years, despite our now pretty minimal presence there to this day …
Maybe somebody will ask him WTF he is talking about and if is really such an idiot he can’t understand McCain’s point?
I hate intellectual dishonesty. I hate it worse when I know it will work.
Professor Blather on March 31, 2008 at 6:13 PM
‘the problem we have with McCain and Bush is that there is no clear definition of success. there never was’ – Barack Obama.
Liar.
President Outlines Strategy for Victory in Iraq
These disgusting democrats get to lie about this all the time and the press never calls them on it.
Disgusting.
wise_man on March 31, 2008 at 6:15 PM
What’s with all the stuttering? Could he be getting ready to lie?
The shape and nature of success is becoming obvious. Liberals never think past an “idea” that makes them feel or look good. Even if the shape that some optimistically envision (a “Democracy”) is unrealistic, events on the ground show that is where things are headed.
Now the Iranians could nuke the “Green Zone” five/three/two years from now. The next leader of Iraq could be Osama Bin-Laden. The Mahdi could return, etc.
But, the Iraqis don’t have much patience anymore for the jihadi terrorists. They are culturally enabled to wipe them out to the last man. As long as they don’t make fighting terrorists a basis for government power and abuse – this will be over soon.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Now if I were running for the nomination against this guy and was currently behind in delegates and popular vote, I’d probably give up on trying to out-left him and use this clip for the personal appeals I’m making to the superdelegates about how I’m the better general election candidate.
I’m sure the mailing labels are being put on the DVDs right now.
murty on March 31, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Mr Obama’s manufactured reputation for eloquence will be his downfall unless, when he eventually goes one-on-one with McCain, he has the most advanced teleprompter in the universe. A leave-behind strike force, just in case? Come on.
jackmac on March 31, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Simply put: this guy sucks without a script in front of him. That presser was about as coherent in its answers as the Tom Cruise Scientology video. All that was missing was the “It’s like – (pow sound) – you know? You just know…” and a maniacal laugh for good measure.
But ya gotta give him credit for coming up with “We’ve been in South Korea for 50 years…and that’s…decades.” His is nothing if not a math genius.
Captain Scarlet on March 31, 2008 at 6:22 PM
A Germany/Japan-type occupation of Iraq is absurd on it’s face.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:23 PM
The media has a new love affair. His name is John McCain.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 6:26 PM
It is at this moment.
What Bush and many more people want is to help stabilize the country so that Iraq comes through to as peaceful a country as Japan or Germany did after WW2. If the insurgents/terrorists are allowed to take Iraq because we bugg out, then Iraq will be noting at all like Japan and Germany after WW2.
wise_man on March 31, 2008 at 6:27 PM
What is a lie? Ever had a friend make a mistake and joke “oops I lied”? What is happening to the English language?
Obama lies like a lawyer. Without saying it (so he can say he didn’t later), he suggest McCain envisions 100 thousand troops in Iraq. As if he is stupid (he is not), he makes no distinction between occupation as it is in Iraq now, and a military “presence” in So Korea (37,000).
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I’m going on the record. I think (and hope) he’s going to implode during the next few months. I think the libs looked around and saw no ideas, no lucid policies to rally around and precipitously jumped on the Obama wagon without truly vetting him.
Claypigeon on March 31, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Stop treating Sharia-supreme Iraq like post-war Japan
It isn’t just that the total defeat and utter devastation of Japan nullifies the comparison with Iraq (which it does). There is something else. There is the completely different U.S. approach to Japan’s animating, warlike state religion of Shintoism, which, not incidentally, bears striking similarities to the animating, warlike state religion of Islam.
- Diana West
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:35 PM
That’s what it is now, just with more troops, and more gun play. The US has a base, and they sustain/compliment (tolerate) an indigenous military and government.
The only real thing that is different is that they are not human shields against a outside foreign enemy (Russia/China). In Iraq the foreign enemy is within.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Iraq is right now nothing at all like post war Japan and Germany, nor is our approach to it anything at all alike.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Iraq is far more like Vietnam.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:41 PM
I think I counted 63 Ugh’s in that short interview. The guy’s another Robert Frost when he has weeks to prepare a speech in which he steals passages from his buddy up in Massacussetts or his racist pastor. Wait til Mav gets his sorry ass on stage with the whole country watching. He’s gonna “Hope” he weren’t there and “Change” his positions so many times that people will mistake him for Mitt Romenee.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 6:41 PM
The destruction of Iraq “IS COMPLETE”, though you wish to deny it. The Iraqis were/are weaker than the Japanese. It took two nukes to bring Japan to its knees. It took far less for Iraq.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:41 PM
There Obama goes with those “snippets” again. lol
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 6:43 PM
The audacity of that reporter, he is obviously racist to demand that Obama clarify his constant lie about Johnny Mac’s quote!
saltydogg14 on March 31, 2008 at 6:44 PM
You assume that is our goal, and model for victory. Were we not victorious in Japan/Germany until they started making great cars?
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:46 PM
My thoughts exactly.
It is clear to those paying attention that N’Obama wants to gut our defenses as part of the national budget in order to divert funds to his utopian socialist schemes. I guess that he hasn’t been paying attention to how well that policy works in Europe.
Without our military presence throughout the world, too many nations would be vulnerable to attack from without. While these nations collapse their economies with social welfare that saps productivity, we guard their backsides with manpower and fire power.
Question for the ObamaMessiah: How long will the United States be held hostage to the War on Poverty, either here or abroad. Our beneficence surely doesn’t win hearts and minds of Pastor Wright and his grievance-mongering cohorts.
onlineanalyst on March 31, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Defining defeat is a lot easier; he’s sticking with that.
frankj on March 31, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Usually it is the liberals who say that we destroyed Iraq, although even they don’t usually say that we completely destoryed it.
Does Sadr look destroyed?
Does Islam look destroyed?
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Well Bush at least used to define it as a self sufficient, rule of law, respect for human rights, democratic nation that would be a shining example to the rest of the Middle East.
Maybe we better change that 100 years to
200 5001000 years.MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 6:55 PM
I do get your point about Sharia. If we are lucky, the jihadis will continue to act up and give Sharia a bad name (at least for Iraqis). But our success is not contingent upon this. Our goal (impossible) is to get them to institute constitutional principal that will guide them to a “not so bad” future.
Our goal is to put them on a path, that when they fail, will be on them. Our goal is that when the rest of the Islamic countries start to move in one direction, they will be the LAST to join.
Keeping the enemy off balance is our long term strategy (until the oil runs out).
We can leave when they are too busy building homes to call us names. One silenced voice of anti-American rhetoric.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 6:56 PM
What is becoming clearer by the day, is when Obama is asked to answer any question that he has no scripted answer for, the man stumbles and sputters like an empty suit. Obama can’t come across as the Liberal he truly is, and he knows it. The only way a radical Liberal can win a general election is to hide the truth about being a radical Liberal. Obama’s radical Liberal views will continue to be exposed as his past continues to be revealed.
John McCain will mop the floor with this empty suit once the two of them face off. I’m finally starting to believe that Ms. Clinton will not be capable of stealing this nomination from Obama. It appears that super delegates are coming out in favor of Obama in an effort to avoid this uncivil democrat war from going all the way to Denver. The democrats must figure a way to rid themselves of Ms. Clinton, as she is making it clear that she will not go away on her own. The entire democrat party must pressure the supers to come out of the closet and side with Obama so that the pressure will become overbearing on Hillary.
Smartest Woman on Earth???? She’s going to lose to an empty suit radical Liberal nothing of a politician rookie. She’s run a horrible campaign. She’s done nothing to overcome the label of “wicked bitch”. This woman apparently is not very smart at all. The only label she has proven to be worthy of is “wicked bitch”…
Keemo on March 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Sadr is not Iraq. Islam is not Iraq. Obama/Wright are not “black America”.
Iraq was “destroyed” before we got there. The Shia had given up opposing Saddam long ago (because they were weak).
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:00 PM
I fail to see how getting rid of a festering boil would represent a defeat.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:01 PM
But Iraq is Islam(ic). It is enshrined in their constitution no less.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:03 PM
I’d like to see a McCain ad where McCain says “this is what I said” then shows the video – then says “this is how Obama interpreted it”, then show another video. Then McCain says Obama is too stupid to be president of the USA. How can he meet with foreign leaders and be trusted to understand what they are saying?
pappy on March 31, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Furthermore. All of this fighting against our forces (as bad as it got, beheadings and all) was a demonstration of their weakness. They resented that the US had to take out Saddam (again), when they could not.
If you don’t recognize Sadr for the petulant child he was/is then you have missed something. Remember the “moderate” Shi’ite cleric Ayatollah Muhammad Baqir al-Hakim. Their last brave man.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Of course Nazism was enshrined in post war Germany’s constitution as was Shintoism in post war Japan’s, so that actually means the comparison of Iraq to Germany and Japan is actually pretty valid.
Oh wait!
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:09 PM
The problem with that is that Obama can just quote real conservative Diana West.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Maybe I’ve missed it, but has Maverick estimated just how much it would cost? I mean, here we are 5 years in, and the cost has stayed pretty static (if not gone up with a troop increase), with little or no reduction on the horizon. So, maybe it’s up to McCain to put forth some prediction or vision on what this 100 years will look like, and how soon we could realistically see those cost levels go down. I know that logically they would eventually (assuming that we improved the situation), but for now, all we have to go on is $150 billion a year.
I’m not sure he has to, because unlike many, he doesn’t insist on addressing the situation in those terms. Heck, I don’t think even Gen. Petraeus thinks in those terms. For my part, I’ve long argued that we’ve both “won” and “lost” a long time ago, depending on one’s perspective. Right now it looks like we’re mitigating an internal and somewhat regional conflict, nation building, and putting down an insurgency (as opposed to “fighting a war”, in the sense that we’re not sinking battleships and expecting some formal surrender of a defined enemy). For everyone else, I think that the goal posts have been moved so many times that I’m sure if you asked 10 people to define “victory”, you’d get 10 different answers. I think the whole paradigm is counterproductive, actually.
ChenZhen on March 31, 2008 at 7:13 PM
If Obama mischaracterizes world leaders’ statements in the same way he does Republican’s then he is liable to piss of those countries and put us in more danger.
pappy on March 31, 2008 at 7:13 PM
You seem to confuse a vision of Iraq looking like Germany 20 years from now, with our goals.
No one is saying a reversal of perhaps every good thing we achieve in Iraq is not probable (a guarantee). If Japan’s economy collapses tomorrow and it becomes a third world country, does that mean US failure?
The left will never be satisfied, so screw them. What remains is doing what is RIGHT. So we blow some money (a $trillion?). More than Iraq could pay back with an oil pipeline directly to the US. When we leave they will have every advantage. If they blow it. That’s on them.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I am with you on the Islam in the Government issue. Perhaps your point is that this guarantees Iraq will fail (eventually). Like a “birth defect”.
Many (every) country has had “birth defects”. The question is do wee need US troops as a crutch? Did/do US troops in Japan and Germany make their success possible? How?
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Another possibility is that he knows what McCain really said and meant, but he will continue to misstate it deliberately knowing that it will really p*ss off McCain. If and when they do debate Obama will hit him with the misstatement again and McCain will have an emotional outburst right there in front of God and country. That will “prove” that McCain is unstable and unable to function as a President under stress.
I hope that McCain’s staff is aware of him being set-up for episodes like that and are rehearsing the proper response al a Reagan’s “Well…there you go again…” retort.
in_awe on March 31, 2008 at 7:25 PM
The question remains, what amount of Freedom, Libery, Law, Justice, and Security, is needed to get Iraq on their way.
Beyond Islam, I think a Socialist mentality is a much greater threat. If the US is a crutch, is it until they can do it on their own, ie healing? Or are the Iraqis pre-disposed to expect the US to provide their future.
If so, we’ll never get out of their. And always take the blame.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Obama puts the “gross” in “gross distortion”.
landshark on March 31, 2008 at 7:26 PM
They have already blown it.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:28 PM
It is a guarantee that McCain will say something to piss us off when the real campaign begins. His indelicate statements about Rumsfeld during the last R-debate are case in point.
I expect rhetoric about Bush’s “cowboy diplomacy” to come not from the Dem candidate but McCain. He got a pass for the Rumsfeld comment, but dissing Bush will be his “Wrong Wright” moment.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Try as you might, you can’t get 10 gallons of beer in a 12 ounce bottle.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:30 PM
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings (Sadr?). They are still in our hands. We have yet to tell them to fly.
When THEY start building new houses and schools (on their own), it will have begun. When they blow THOSE up, it will be over.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Not so smooth when it’s not a “softball” question.
Hog Wild on March 31, 2008 at 7:34 PM
You are only so pessimistic, because your standards are too high. For Iraq, and the US.
Don’t get me wrong. We are headed for a showdown. Iraq is no more than a stop-gap mission. A band-aid.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:37 PM
The reference to beer is however, most encouraging. At least you have positive outcomes in mind. I assume you overlook that you and I would drink that extra 2 gallons, to achieve our goal.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Forget what I said about Islam and Socialism. It is a lack of beer and its consumption that is the biggest threat in Iraq.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Good point as addressing the situation in those terms narrows ones field of vision an awful lot.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:44 PM
You probably said that in jest, but it is a part of the problem.
In Vietnam, plenty of beer for the troops.
In Islamic Iraq (aka Vietnam II), not much at all.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:47 PM
He’s never thought about victory. He is stuck on stupid. I could understand if he would just come out and say “they’re not worth it”. I think MB4 might agree. I might too.
A case that withdrawal would lead to success/victory could be made. But then he’d have to admit that he favors success/victory. MB4 could make that case without all of the stuttering.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:49 PM
OK, we can lower our standards and try to get
5 21 gallon of beer in a 12 ounce bottle.Nope, still no go.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Hell no I wasn’t kidding. Cultural differences are at the core of the problem. Isn’t it funny, however, there are no accusations that the US has been bringing drugs into the “community” to destroy the brown people of Iraq.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Oh, hai troll!
carbon_footprint on March 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM
That would never work. There’d be NO beer left over for you. I’d be ok though.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM
After 5 years, 4,000 dead Americans, so many thousand more permanently disabled and hundreds of billions of dollars, I think that more than enough has been given to Iraq.
At this point if they want to all stand around in a circle and shoot at each other, well … … …
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 7:57 PM
AMEN brother.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 7:58 PM
McCain has it coming to him. I remember how he distorted Romney’s words about withdrawing the troops in one of the debates.
What goes around comes around.
SIJ6141 on March 31, 2008 at 8:00 PM
And beaucoup nuoc mam to you.
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I cannot wait for the debates during the general!
ctmom on March 31, 2008 at 8:01 PM
McCain’s making light of a 100 year “presence” in Iraq, regardless of what he meant, puts a shadow on his fitness. For honor to finish the job is a good case, he has trouble articulating. “Terets” outbursts like this one (regardless of what he meant) trouble me.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 8:02 PM
And a hearty hallelujah!
MB4 on March 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM
He needs to be pressed on his Iraq plan.
In this clip, he says we have troops in our embassies in France, in Great Britain, etc, but according to this,
we have between 7 and 30 marines on duty per embassy worldwide (not including Iraq currently). Are these the kinds of numbers he’s talking about leaving behind? If not, why the comparison?
He also continues on to say we have “troops to ensure our civilian populations are cared for”, and I don’t think that’s true. Where do we have these troops to protect OUR civilian populations outside of the US?
MayBee on March 31, 2008 at 8:11 PM
However, don’t forget the 70,000 dead jihadis. Not that that is a reason to stay – that job is done. If you want to get out, screw the consequences, that is a valid position. I resent that Obama and others won’t OWN that.
I favor the US troops piloting drones from the Green Zone. Let the Iraqi army wade into the enemy (our enemy), with the US on speed dial. Let them call in the bombs intimidate the press for criticism.
But if we leave (again because the Iraqis are weak), they don’t have the backbone to finish off the enemy (though the cancer will inevitably regrow). Eventually the problem would be reduced to a “law enforcement problem”, but Iraqi style.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
This is why the word “nigger” will never go away! And it has little to do with his skin color.
bluestater on March 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM
He is an idiot, or he thinks/knows his constituents are. With the educational system in this country it is a safe bet.
WE HAVE TROOPS IN FRANCE!! They are on vacation.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I do not appreciate your comment. I also request that you respectfully refrain from spelling out the word, though I respect your right to do so.
Kanye West is why it will never go away. In his latest “hit” he says it several times, but they “bleep” out fuck.
Agrippa2k on March 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Vietnam: Year of Death or Declaration of Death
Get some perspective.
1966 = 6,143
1967 = 11,153
1968 = 16,592
1969 = 11,616
1970 = 6,081
Chakra Hammer on March 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM
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