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Wow. Just wow.

MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Forget it. Apparently everything you wouldn’t do but support is fine, but I’m just an @sshole.

I won’t make the mistake again of thinking I can discuss anything with you. This is exactly why I said I wouldn’t bother talking to you about this exact thing before.

I wouldn’t eat snails or most seafood. I wouldn’t become a vegetarian. I wouldn’t and usually don’t (baring rare exceptions) carry a purse. I wouldn’t try out for American Idol. I wouldn’t finish reading Moby Dick.

Esthier on April 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Wow. Just wow.

Jim Treacher on April 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM

And presumably her father as well.

Your statement implies that you see no difference.

MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM

No, it doesn’t. It states directly that I see no difference in those who would comment that one must do the thing one finds appropriate in order to feel that it is appropriate.

I’m an individual. Just because I wouldn’t do something myself, it does not mean that the thing I wouldn’t do is inappropriate.

I wouldn’t eat snails or most seafood. I wouldn’t become a vegetarian. I wouldn’t and usually don’t (baring rare exceptions) carry a purse. I wouldn’t try out for American Idol. I wouldn’t finish reading Moby Dick. I started it and hated it. And I wouldn’t go to a politician’s rally, let alone a Clinton rally.

However, just because I wouldn’t do those things, it doesn’t mean that I find those things to be inappropriate. It simply means exactly what I’ve stated. I wouldn’t do those things.

What does the proportion have to do with anything? Either it’s acceptable to support something you wouldn’t do yourself or it isn’t.

Your statement implies that you see no difference.

If you really believe asking a question is comparable to going into a battlefield, having an abortion, or pulling the switch on the electric chair, I don’t think it’s really worth trying to discuss this issue rationally with you. Oh…

I’m not comparing them. I never once said that they are the same.

Esthier on April 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM

If you really believe asking a question is comparable to going into a battlefield, having an abortion, or pulling the switch on the electric chair, I don’t think it’s really worth trying to discuss this issue rationally with you. Oh…

Right, because we all follow lock-step with Rush on whatever he says.

People invoked Michelle’s opinion. Is it okay if I inject the view of another major pundit?

Apparently not without recriminations.

MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Right, because we all follow lock-step with Rush on whatever he says.

Yes, because risking being blown up by an IED is just like asking someone a tough question. Proportion, please.

MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 2:28 PM

What does the proportion have to do with anything? Either it’s acceptable to support something you wouldn’t do yourself or it isn’t.

Either proponents of the death penalty needs to pull the switch themselves, or they don’t.
Either pro-abortionists must have one themselves first, or they don’t.
Either only mother’s who’ve lost a son/daughter in this war get a chance to be heard, or their voice is only one of many.

If you accept that someone must do something they believe is acceptable in order to have that belief, then why should it stop at a stupid question? If I’m a hypocrite because of a stupid question that offended maybe three people, then you’re one for supporting a war in which 4,000 men and women have died while you did nothing.

You don’t get out of it because you’re afraid of dying while I’m only afraid of offending someone to his/her face.

But seriously, your opinion on the subject is no different from the opinion of those who think you have to fight in the war to support it. “If you think the war’s such a good idea, why aren’t you enlisted?”

Esthier on April 1, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Yes, because risking being blown up by an IED is just like asking someone a tough question. Proportion, please.

I see more hypocrisy in the latter, if you want to get into that.

We already did, but every time I explain my position, you’re no where to be found.

But seriously, your opinion on the subject is no different from the opinion of those who think you have to fight in the war to support it. “If you think the war’s such a good idea, why aren’t you enlisted?”

If you can accept that it’s possible to support something without doing it yourself, then you can accept that I wouldn’t ask a question even though I believe it to be an appropriate one.

You think it’s OK to ask Hillary about her husband’s blow job. Would you ask her? Because otherwise, you’re a hypocrite.

Esthier on April 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Now YOU’RE simplifying the question. It was whether her reaction to the situation would affect her credibility. Asking that kind of thing to Chelsea is asking her to make a pretty personal judgment, being in the position she is as her daughter.

Asking Hillary herself? I absolutely would. She made statements about the right wing conspiracy, so obviously she had her mind made up on she was going to tackle the problem. I’d have no problem asking it.

Then again, I’d have no problem asking any question I think is appropriate. Some people wouldn’t ask it, but they think it’s still okay. I see more hypocrisy in the latter, if you want to get into that.

I say she does if she gets into Good President/Bad President discussions, especially if those discussions center on character or the reputation of the president.

Kafir on April 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

If Bush were running for re-election, I would agree with you. However, he can’t. He’s leaving, and there is no argument about that. She’s offering her opinion on what is going to happen. If you’re saying she should be hassled over her father’s lechery because she voices an opinion on an inevitable event, that’s up to you. I don’t agree.

All I’m saying is Matthew 7:3

Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own [or your father's] eye?

AP says she doesn’t deserve to have this question put to her. I say she does if she gets into Good President/Bad President discussions, especially if those discussions center on character or the reputation of the president.
Chelsea: The world will breathe a sigh of relief when Bush leaves office.
Me: You mean like fat female interns did when your father left?

You always seem to derive things I didn’t say out of what I do say. Don’t start that up again. Read what I say, or don’t respond.

MadisonConservative on April 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Seriously, pot… kettle…

You think it’s OK to ask Hillary about her husband’s blow job. Would you ask her? Because otherwise, you’re a hypocrite.