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posted at 10:45 pm on March 31, 2008 by Allahpundit

“The moral of the story: McCain’s nomination does not represent a mandate for open borders.”

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McCain is for open borders. He’ll say anything to gain power, after all, he’s a politician not a statesman.

Zorro on April 1, 2008 at 7:11 AM

It is funny to watch McCain’s butt boy commenters totally evade the issue. McCain/Hernandez will be a total disaster as will Hillobama so stop supporting them please!

Valiant on April 1, 2008 at 8:02 AM

unseen on April 1, 2008 at 4:32 AM

…and I thought you were just a financial guru. Geopolitics in your quiver too!
Cudda’ fooled me!

J_Gocht on April 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM

Here we go living in LaLa Land again.
We, who support the concept of sovereign borders/nationalism, have LOST! Can’t we get that through our thick skulls? Hunter, Tancredo & FDT – THEY ALL LOST! Why did we lose? Because we’re all a collection of scattered individualists who simply can’t seem to muster the discipline to “form up”. There is a massive number of us out here who have “zero” representation.

Certainly John McCain does not represent us in any way/shape/form. Nor will he! He despises us! Has total contempt for us as do the rest of the GOP Hierarchy! We can’t seem to come to grips with this reality. We’ve been swept under the rug.

This is why we need The New Republican Party (NRP) or the Repuplican National Party (RNP). An alternative to be formed up and ready to run candidates for the 2010 mid-terms. Will it happen? Its unavoidable what with the massive void/vacuum that must be filled. It will happen. Lets all Pray that right and good people will involve themselves in its formation. Unlike ’92, it must be done correctly and seriously this time. Darvin Dowdy

Darvin Dowdy on April 1, 2008 at 8:40 AM

Amnesty is going to happen even if McCain gets elected. McCain will never veto an amnesty bill sent to him by the Demoncraps.
Obama or McCain, I vote McCain.
Clinton or McCain, I vote Clinton.
The difference?
Obama wants to destroy our military.

leanright on April 1, 2008 at 8:56 AM

A man is often judged by the company he keeps. In Iraq he was in the company of sen. Lindsey Graham, the sen. who called us “bigots” and told us “to shut up”.

2theright on April 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM

The ultra right wing freaks are trying to force us normal conservative republicans to choose between them and McCain. Well that’s a no brainer, I pick McCain. And from now on I will actively campaign against any candidate that panders to this hateful and idiotic fringe element of the GOP.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM

Everybody drop what you’re reading and pick up a copy of Matthew Bracken’s book “Domestic Enemies: The Reconquista.” Might be helpful to read the first book though, as “Reconquista” is a sequel. Amazon has them both.

fossten on April 1, 2008 at 10:23 AM

The ultra right wing freaks are trying to force us normal conservative republicans to choose between them and McCain. Well that’s a no brainer, I pick McCain. And from now on I will actively campaign against any candidate that panders to this hateful and idiotic fringe element of the GOP.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM

No hateful rhetoric in your comment, eh comrade?

fossten on April 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM

Meanwhile, 35 percent of his voters thought he favored attrition of the illegal population through enforcement, 21 percent didn’t know his position, and (this is my favorite) 10 percent thought McCain’s position on illegal immigration was “a program of mass roundups and deportations.” What’s more, 58 percent of McCain voters said that, regardless of who was elected president, they themselves would oppose legislation to legalize illegals.

The moral of the story: McCain’s nomination does not represent a mandate for open borders. 100% of McCain voters made a giant mistake because they paid zero attention to his actual positions.

Zetterson on April 1, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Yeah Zeff, and we could be looking at a 5 percent chance of keeping the Whitehouse instead of a 50 percent chance. If you are okay with losing, why not just be content to be a loser with McCain in office instead of a loser with a liberal democrat in office.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:45 AM

The ultra right wing freaks are trying to force us normal conservative republicans to choose between them and McCain. Well that’s a no brainer, I pick McCain. And from now on I will actively campaign against any candidate that panders to this hateful and idiotic fringe element of the GOP.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM

In light of this inevitable rhetoric, I thought this comment from another thread would be cautionary:

The only strategy capable of defeating the ultra-right is the widest possible unity of all the class and social forces whose interests run counter to those of the most reactionary section of the transnationals. Such an all-inclusive coalition would need to be led by labor and the working class in close alliance with the nationally and racially oppressed, women, and youth. It should include seniors, family farmers, the LGBT community, professionals and the self-employed, small business owners, and the disabled—everyone except the most reactionary section of transnational capital. This unity will include an ever-growing Left-Center political coalition that includes the Democratic Party, left and progressive independents who recognize the danger the ultra-right poses, and all social movements on the major issues of our day. This all-people’s front should strive to, and be able to, attract many who voted Republican in the past.

The struggle to defeat the ultra-right is a democratic struggle that advances the class struggle and that has the potential to shift the balance of forces in a direction more favorable for winning working class victories and for mounting offensive struggles.

The quote above is from the “Defeating the Ultra-Right” section of “The Road to Socialism USA”, published by the Communist Party USA.

Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 4:38 PM

My later response: As the GOP moves steadily toward the left, those of us who used to be core constituents are now considered “fringe”, our principles mocked as stupid and irrational. I’ve seen Republicans scornfully label conservatives who don’t support McCain as “far-right” and “ultra-right”, as if it’s a dirty epithet. I didn’t expect the vitriol from our own “side”, but this makes it look like we’re not on the same side anymore at all.

I guess you proved my point, myamphibian. I’m really sorry to see that, because I don’t think it needs to be that way.

Redhead Infidel on April 1, 2008 at 12:21 PM

The “rhetoric” is not only inevitable, but most likely desired by the ultra right. The socialists that you quoted consider all conservatives “ultra right wing”. That is not my position at all and it speaks volumes that you would infer such. Are you saying that anyone that supports McCain is a communist? I was a Fredhead, but his campaign went nowhere, then I went for Rudy, he dropped out, I never bashed Mitt and now McCain is the nominee. Even though he may not have been my first choice, I’m beginning to see the value in a McCain presidency. Our country needs to be united first, then we can start working on the divide amonst ourselves as republicans. I have always loathed the far left extremists that seem bent on keeping our country divided, and for the first time in my life, i’m seeing the same thing from aome republicans. That is not the core republican constituency, and McCain is much more mainstream conservative than those on the far right seem willing to admit.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM

“myamphibian” is the Darwin amphibian on the back of your car.

Your post is a textbook example of the Communist Party of the USA’s game plan for “Defeating the Ultra-Right“.

You’ve been exposed.

Red Pill on April 1, 2008 at 1:32 PM

McCain is much more mainstream conservative than those on the far right seem willing to admit.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 1:07 PM

How many people really believe that McCain is “mainstream conservative”?

His nickname is “Maverick” for good reason…

Red Pill on April 1, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Red Pill on April 1, 2008 at 1:32 & 1:36PM

Darwin did not come up with his theory of evolution to tweak christians. In fact, he was a christian himself.

You may not consider McCain mainstream, but then again, the only candidate that would pass the ultra right smell test would maybe get 10 percent of the popular vote. Americans are sick and tired of the bickering and stubborn extremists on both sides. You can deny it all you want, attack me for my point of view, but the far right is hurting the conservative movement 10x as much as McCain ever has or will.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 2:11 PM

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Your arguments are not convincing. McCain has been rolling over for the far left for years. He is not a maverick in my book, just a lying ass two faced dumb ass. Not to mention a trader to his own party.
You so called moderates are the one’s who have broke the party by compromising your values. I’ll stand my line, and if that destroys the RINO party, too fri—-en bad.

leanright on April 1, 2008 at 2:52 PM

a lying ass two faced dumb ass. Not to mention a trader[sic] to his own party.leanright on April 1, 2008 at 2:52 PM

You lack the power to destroy or even affect the RNC. Your best hope is for us to lose to the dems in November. And if McCain wins, you will then have to hope that he grants amnesty to illegals in order to be proven right. This is exactly why I don’t see any difference between the extreme right rinos and the left wing nutbags. In order for them to win, America has to lose.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM

You can deny it all you want, attack me for my point of view…

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Who attacked whom again? May I remind you:

The ultra right wing freaks are trying to force us normal conservative republicans to choose between them and McCain. Well that’s a no brainer, I pick McCain. And from now on I will actively campaign against any candidate that panders to this hateful and idiotic fringe element of the GOP.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 10:14 AM

No one’s attacking you. We are trying to point out to you that your rhetoric, as clever as it may seem to you, is “borrowed”.

Consider the source – it should at least make you think. Your rhetoric demonizes conservatives, and you have plenty of company, some right here in HA. Take a look around and see who will take up the rallying cry against us. Who is dismissing OUR core values and principles as “stupid”, “irrational”, and “fringe”? Our own side!

That’s the danger. And words just like yours do the damage – driving wedges into an already splintering GOP. Trust me, conservatives take enough heavy fire from the Left, how about we do without the “friendly fire” from the Right?? Because the GOP cannot win without us, and those who think that cursing us and calling us idiots and freaks is going to advance their cause are sadly mistaken – they reveal themselves to be fools.

Redhead Infidel on April 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Well, if nothing else, I can at least cancel your vote out.

leanright on April 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM

I quoted this in another conversation where folks were debating party politics versus core principles:

“It is the nature and intention of a constitution to prevent governing by party, by establishing a common principle that shall limit and control the power and impulse of party, and that says to all parties, thus far shalt thou go and no further. But in the absence of a constitution, men look entirely to party; and instead of principle governing party, party governs principle.” – Thomas Paine

As the Establishment Republicans – and their so-called leaders – sidle ever Leftward in an attempt to curry favor at the center, there is a large core of constituents who are saying thus far shalt thou go and no further. The ensuing debate is what we’re all in now. And…as evidenced by that quote, there is nothing new under the sun.

Redhead Infidel on April 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM

So, my being a Conservative is being ultra right all of a sudden. Well, so be it. At least, I’ll have my values and character intact….. albeit an evident “nutjob”……. This is funny, it really is today!

MNDavenotPC on April 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Redhead Infidel on April 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Point well taken. But I see the same damage being inflicted from those that bash McCain on immigration. When president Bush first suggested immigration reform, border security was a priority along with other measures for comprehensive reform. Some on our side immediately hammered him for it. I do not support illegal immigration in any way, but our country (on both sides of the aisle) has played a part in us getting to this point. We should have had a border fence decades ago. I do not believe John McCain wants open borders and blanket amnesty, but there are some illegal immigrants that will and should be able to stay after making amends. I just can’t stand by while a good man like McCain gets bashed for trying to solve a problem that is very complex and huge in scope, while staying true to his own principles. Immigration is really the only issue that causes me problems when it comes to the far right. Again, i’m not in favor of wide open borders by any means, but there are other issues facing our country and we could do much worse than McCain. And if someone like leanright, who is presumbaly conservative, wants to cancel out my vote by supporting the democrat, how is that principled? Talk about friendly fire.

myamphibian on April 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Illegal immigration isn’t just the only cross McCain must bear. McCain Feingold, McCain Kennedy, et al. His stance on Guantanamo is egregious.

MNDavenotPC on April 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM

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