I take that back…my real hope is in a miracle that makes Mike Huckabee the next President of the United States. And I don’t want to hear anyone say that Huckabee is Jimmy Carter with an (R) by his name. I challenge anyone to show me what about Huckabee’s stand on the issues is anything less than the very definition of conservative values.

The truth is that McCain is John Kerry with an (R) by his name.

Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM

Mike Huckabee? Let’s see … soft on criminals, soft on security, wants to bring the Constitution “in line with the Bible.” Basically Mike Huckabee takes Jerry Falwell and Jimmy Carter and combines the worst aspects of both. My cat would make a better POTUS than this jerk. Heck, my table lamp would make a better POTUS than this jerk.

I am not the biggest fan of McCain by any means. I believe his positions on illegal immigration and global warming are indefensible, but he does have strong national security credentials and will defend our national interests, unlike Hillary the Liar or Obama the Racist.

McCain’s current success, however temporary and ephemeral in the current election cycle, should give you guys a message. Voters will not support a social conservative on that principle alone. Maybe if the social con offers something more than social conservatism, but not if that is all that they have to offer, as was the case with Huckabee, whom most GOPers and voters found revolting. They do not want to be told how to live their lives, whether it is by a Christian Taliban like Huckabee or by a guilty liberal like Hillary. McCain is the most visible example that voters do not want someone invoking the their own version of the Bible to tell Joe Blow on the street how to live.

Politics is a game of half-loaves. With McCain you are only getting a half-loaf, not 3/4 of a loaf, but with Hillary or Obama you will not only get no loaf, but probably have loaves taken away from you. McCain is tough where it counts most, on national security, whereas Hillary, Obama and indeed Huckabee are softer than Michael Moore’s stomach.

Stop with this crap of “I’m not voting for McCain because I do not want to be responsible for the disaster that follows.” That’s a copout of the first magnitude and smacks of a self-righteousness I would expect more from Code Pink. That would make you responsible for the disaster of a Hillary or Obama presidency, from which we may never recover. If you love America and want to proptect her as much as you can, you have a duty to at least mitigate the disaster by voting for McCain.

Man, how’s that for a campaign slogan?

Oh very nice, liken my ideas to Islamic extremism because you can’t refute them. You people truly are ideologically bankrupt aren’t you. I won’t shed a tear when your falsehoods go down in flames.

Please be factual. Rant all you wish against him, or anyone, but based on fact/s. He and his first wife were separated when he met this one. The first wife will be the first to tell you that. She says the marriage was over when he met Cindy. Check into this.

Entelechy on March 31, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Don’t confuse the Huckabee fans with facts, Entelechy. They are going to stick to principle and vote for the most conservative candidate, which … uh … is … er … oh. McCain?

OK… so what does the media go after him with?
I’m not saying they won’t, i just can’t imagine what the angle(s) will be. Anyone wanna help me out?

jdub on March 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM

I’m guessing the Keating Five gets heavy discussion. They follow it up with that lobbyist the press was trying to claim he was sleeping with.

Then maybe some 100 years in Iraq. He’s too old. Keating Five some more. Try to tie him to some other lobbyists. Claim he’s a far rightwinger because he was a war proponent.

And then some more on the Keating Five. Then his age and notably bad temperament (which will probably get worse with his former friends trashing him). If it is against Obama they will call him a racist and bring up his comments about the North Vietnamese. If it against Hillary they will call him a misogynist.

Wash, rinse, repeat

Will it work? Tough to say since the MSM has been building McCain up since 2000. But they will try…

As far as labeling most of the rest of us as “Quislings” and moderation as “treason”, well…“If this be treason, make the most of it.” - P. Henry

It’s better than Hillary or Obama.

See, my question to all you Repubs: If your party is so conservative, howcome you keep nominating liberal Republicans?

Ever think that may be why GOP nominations may be trending more purple than you like? Ideological enemy, indeed. There’s some fine sales talk.

a capella on March 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM

Truth hurts, doesn’t it?

I’m not forcing you to agree with me. Unlike you Quislings, I never told you to “Shut the f**k up and support a particular candidate.” McCain does not hold my views on the vast majority of issues. He is, in fact, an ideological enemy. I will not shut the f**k up. If you all want to infest the GOP with your political treason, there will be a third party in 2012 because rank-and-file conservatives are outraged more than you Quislings seem to be able to comprehend.

The GOP’s loss of Texas’s 34 electoral votes will lead to a
permanent Democrat majority.

The GOP’s loss of Texas’s 34 electoral votes will lead to a permanent Democrat majority.

From the NRO John O’Sullivan article:

The Texas primary confirmed these gloomy results for the GOP even before the results were tabulated. Hispanics were 12 percent of the Texas electorate in 1998, and are expected to be 20 percent — the “tipping point” at which their rise will make Texas a Democratic-leaning state — within six years. As GOP pollster Matthew Dowd, a longtime booster of the Hispanic/amnesty strategy, conceded to Dan Balz of the Washington Post: “The question this year is whether the Sanchez campaign advances that [i.e., making Texas a competitive swing state rather than a reliably Republican one], compressing six years into six months.” It might do so; Sanchez combined an ethnic appeal to Hispanics — objecting to his opponent’s wish to answer questions in English and Spanish rather than solely in Spanish in a televised debate — with an economic appeal to moderate middle-class whites, calling for low taxes.

For that very reason, however, his looks like a transitional candidacy even if he wins in November. For as Hispanic voting strength grows, so it is likely to reflect in Texas the liberal economic voting patterns celebrated by Meyerson in California.

What lies behind this political drift in Texas? Exactly the same force that is pushing once-reliable GOP states like California and Florida into, first, the “undecided” and eventually the “Democratic” column: demographic change driven by immigration. The Hispanic share of the population has risen sharply in these major states in the last 30 years; the Hispanic share of the electorate is now catching up, as immigrants become citizens and register to vote; and their votes heavily favor the Democrats. What has happened in California and now Texas is destined to happen in all the states with large concentrations of His panic immigrants. This is not a political prediction; it is a mathematical relationship.

As the study by Gimpel and Kaufmann demonstrated, moreover, this drift will be very hard to reverse. Republican hopes for major gains in the Hispanic electorate are without foundation. Democrats lead the GOP by large margins in every Hispanic group except Cuban-Americans. There is no sign that any significant group of Latino voters is “in play.” Because Hispanic voters lean to the Democrats on economic and social grounds, the GOP would have to change almost all its policies (on taxes, welfare, regulation, labor law) to have any hope of attracting Hispanic crossovers in the long term. Above all, insofar as there is a modest drift rightwards among Hispanics as they rise economically, that is more than canceled out by the fact that continuing immigration channels new, poor Hispanic voters into the Democratic ranks.

Of course, there are Hispanics — between one-quarter and one-third of the total Latino electorate — who loyally pull the Republican lever. But they are the very voters who are least likely to favor sectional appeals to a separate Hispanic identity, such as an amnesty for illegals, and most likely to respond to traditional Republican arguments for patriotic assimilation. In the post-9/11 atmosphere, other Hispanics might be won over to their side by a patriotic appeal of that kind. But unless the Bush administration wakes up to the electoral impact of continuing immigration, the most the GOP can hope for is to slow the pace of its decline.

I have several good Hispanic friends who are strong GOP conservatives. But even my Hispanic friends wonder why John McCain actively supports rewarding people who break the laws with the gift of USA citizenship.

I know statistics and polls change because people and circumstances change over time. But I think McCain has not considered
amnesty’s negative impact on future elections.

Yes, yes, I know McCain is a war hero.

But many fear his amnesty policies will spell the end of the GOP, from an electoral college prospective.

Fear is setting in.

Well Romney has a lot less experience in Government financing, budget and spending

mccain was a senator. How many budgets has he written or even tried to meet? None.

Angst is setting in.

Besides, I happen to believe that our Economy is the #1 issue this election. Romney wins that hands down over McCain. Now if McCain puts Romney on the ticket, I might be able to vote for him.

stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Well Romney has a lot less experience in Government financing, budget and spending then McCain. A world of difference between private financing and public. Like comparing a sports car to a bulldozer.
Romney “said” he wants to be conservative, at least with McCain you know where he stands. You never quite knew where Mitt stood from week to week (or was it weak to weak).

Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 5:08 PM

I take that back…my real hope is in a miracle that makes Mike Huckabee the next President of the United States. And I don’t want to hear anyone say that Huckabee is Jimmy Carter with an (R) by his name. I challenge anyone to show me what about Huckabee’s stand on the issues is anything less than the very definition of conservative values.

The truth is that McCain is John Kerry with an (R) by his name.

Now, if we can get McCain to govern from the right, we’ll be okay……
Mallard T. Drake on March 31, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Our only hope is to win back control of 1 or both houses of Congress. With a Democrat congress, McCain would flip us the bird. With a conservative Republican congress, there’s at least some hope of keeping him in check, but expect more Souters on the Supreme Court.

Avalanche…..even NJ will be in Maverick’s corner.

Hening on March 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Am I the first to say it? Mavalanche!

Hening on March 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM
jdub on March 31, 2008 at 2:19 PM
JiangxiDad on March 31, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Agreed. McCain is more Democrat than Republican.

Relevant post in another thread.

Horrifying exit question: We probably ended up with the nominee most likely to give the left a run for its money in the fall, didn’t we?

Because of McCain’s moderate positions and his willingness to reach out to Dims, he will be an acceptable alternative to moderate Dims and Independents who are fed up with the fringe element in the party and their fringe candidate. An old adage is campaign to the middle, and govern from the fringes. Well, there is no way that Barry is going to capture the middle from McCain. McCain will be able to siphon votes from the Dims and help capture the WH. Now, if we can get McCain to govern from the right, we’ll be okay……

McCain has to talk primarily issues in this campaign, not primarily biography. Anyone interested in his biography already knows it. His problem is that on issues, he’s liberal.