McCain turning blue states red?
posted at 2:10 pm on March 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Geraghty runs down the numbers. I hasten to remind you that at one point the GOP race was going to be a showdown between Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson. Even so, all we need is one or two of those to make things oh so tight on Election Day: Michigan plus New Hampshire would be de-lovely, and even if McCain doesn’t win any of them, he’ll force Obama to spend a little extra time and cash on blue states with a purplish tinge, like New Jersey, to make sure they stay in the right column. Which, er, shouldn’t be too difficult for a guy who raises $50 million a month, unless he does the noble thing and cuts himself off at the knees by accepting public financing.
Sneak preev via Rasmussen:
Thirteen states with 159 Electoral Votes are either a pure Toss-Up or just slightly leaning to one party or the other. These are likely to be the early battleground states of Election 2008: Florida (27), Pennsylvania (21), Ohio (20), Michigan, (17), Virginia (13), Missouri (11), Minnesota (10), Wisconsin (10), Colorado (9), Iowa (7), Nevada (5), New Mexico (5), and New Hampshire (4).
It’ll be awfully hard to resist putting Crist or Ridge on the ticket to nab one of the two big prizes, huh? Unless you’re afraid of a rearguard Obama action in the south, in which case Sanford’s your man. Or rather, he would be your man if the McCain people weren’t allegedly being such jerks about him.
Horrifying exit question: We probably ended up with the nominee most likely to give the left a run for its money in the fall, didn’t we?
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Yes, the reality of it all has Maverick as the right man at the right time to run as a conservative Democrat, and win.
Avalanche…..even NJ will be in Maverick’s corner.
Hening on March 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Yes, the Maverick should do well in November.
omnipotent on March 31, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Well, insofar as we nominated a democrat, yes. Yes, we did.
jdub on March 31, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Yes, correct, a conservative Democrat should be able to take NJ.
JiangxiDad on March 31, 2008 at 2:20 PM
A question as a response to your exit question: Will conservative values still be in the conversation during and after this more centrist election? I mean, McCain gives the left a run for its money, but does it necessarily mean the party as a whole moves leftward or at least toward the center? The eternal optimist in me says “yes we can” keep the pressure on Republicans to tackle our issues, even if we have a purple candidate.
warrenmr on March 31, 2008 at 2:21 PM
That will not help him win Florida. crist is liked by the liberals in south Florida. He is doing his best to destroy the state economy. I have never voted for crist for state wide office and I will not vote to put him within a 75 year old heartbeat of the presidency. Putting him on the ticket will not go well for mccain.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Not by conservatives.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 2:22 PM
No. Blue states turned McCain purple.
JiangxiDad on March 31, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Didn’t he promise to do just that last year? I guess that was before he saw the big bucks.
amerpundit on March 31, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Ohio is a problem this time because the dems hold the governorship and cayouga country (cleveland)is prime ALCORN territory.
The March Primary I was barely asked to provide ID and that was different from previous years.
William Amos on March 31, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Well DUH !!! He’s more BLUE than he is RED… we conservatives rest our case that he’s not one of us.
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Which leads to another question. Will the Democratic party as it now exists, be satisfied and less partisan with a more centrist president, even if he is from the opposing party? Or do they have to have it all?
a capella on March 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Well, I think Mitt or Rudy would have shown well in the general as well.
But we are going to get what we needed, Obama’s people staying home if Hillary is selected, and vice versa. Liberals act like children and will be divided to the very end, as long as the dem primary keeps going.
Grafted on March 31, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Ditto that, fellow Floridian. This state is a mess right now, (thank you Charlie). He is creepy. I am right in his home town (St. Pete) and he is so in the closet. I don’t care how many trophy girl-friends he trots out.
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 2:30 PM
They have to have it all. Even if Obama himself had a (R) next to his name the dems would hate him.
Grafted on March 31, 2008 at 2:31 PM
So what are the House and Senate looking like after November. Obama with a Republican House & Senate means little gets done (which I favor) but if Dems control all three it’ll be ugly.
rbj on March 31, 2008 at 2:32 PM
If McCain can get alot of latinos he could put California in play.
William Amos on March 31, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Please no Crist or Ridge. Watching Ridge speak or debate would be worse than watching paint dry.
Mark Sanford is the gold pick, but we’ll see if McCain’s advisors are smart enough to push for him, AND who knows if Sanford even wants to be a part of what will be an extremely ugly general election with the MSM screaming RACIST at every substantive challenge to the Osamaobamassiah.
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:34 PM
It’ll be awfully hard to resist putting Crist or Ridge on the ticket to nab one of the two big prizes, huh?
Crist is a nice guy, I’ve met him a few times when I was a gate agent for SWA in Ft. Lauderdale. But, like Jindal, he just got the job of Governor. Give him some time to prove himself, if he turns out to be a good ConPub, maybe Mitt’ll put on the ticket in ‘12, if he turns out to be a ModLibPub then the Voters of Fla can turn HIM out.
Tony737 on March 31, 2008 at 2:35 PM
rgj congress will stay dem. The numbers just can’t work out any other way. That’s why it’s extremely important to keep the WH GOP.
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:35 PM
The house could flip back republican IF the RNC ever got a clue
Not that I will hold my breath for that
William Amos on March 31, 2008 at 2:36 PM
I always assumed everyone thought that already.
frankj on March 31, 2008 at 2:38 PM
BTW, we should insist that McCain pledge to only do one term, put Mitt in the VP slot, and sign it with his own blood, then maybe the Cons will show up to vote for him.
Tony737 on March 31, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Find me a video of McCain promising to slash the military and engage in unilateral disarmament, and I’ll agree that he’s equal to Obama.
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Romney’s not very conservative either. The Romney love still puzzles me mightily.
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Horrifying to any of us who adamantly think the McCain wing of the party is a bunch of political traitors. How on earth is having to choose between three liberal Democrats good for the nation? How dare you McCain Quislings suggest that there is some sort of victory in surrendering the nation to the ideological enemy? Next thing you people are going to demand is the anti-McCain Republicans be rounded up into re-education camps until we also stare with glassy eyes and pretend that McCain is a conservative Republican.
highhopes on March 31, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Picking Jindal wouldn’t be a bad idea, if only to keep him from failing to cure Louisiana (which I view as impossible) and thus being labeled as a failure and ruining his future.
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Nope, they’re still blue. Just like the Maverick.
Valiant on March 31, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Elect Obama in 2008! For the good of the
countrymilitaryeconomyunbornGOP!?funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Exactly, Valiant.
Any time a red guy is having blue states vote for them, I would rather call the candidate slightly blue, before I say that the states are becoming slightly red.
iamse7en on March 31, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Obama and Clinton will both be damaged goods by the time the convention rolls around, and the losing candidate’s supporters will be royally PO’d to the point where they stay home or come out in droves to vote for whoever the Republican candidate is, as a protest to the DNC’s handling of the nomination. Either way it’s a win by default.
The way things have turned out, the Republicans could have nominated Dole again and we might have assured ourselves a victory in November. Added bonus, Dole actually is a conservative.
fogw on March 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Who is this we AP speaks of? AP never came out for any candidate, he just bashes them when they do poorly.
Montana on March 31, 2008 at 2:52 PM
I dunno…. McCain has certainly made me ‘blue’; I’ve never been more depressed in my life now that he ‘won the nomination’.
Like those before me have said: He ain’t turning blue states red; He is turning most states blue with just the slightest purple tinge.
McCain: The Indigo Man. Yeah, that’s about right.
LegendHasIt on March 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Lovely. WTF does that have to do with ANYthing?
As for Florida being a mess at the moment, a larger than fair share of the blame needs to be laid square at the feet of Florida VOTERS. They vote ‘yes’, make these hair-brained, self serving initiatives law, and then piss and moan about the after effects.
tree hugging sister on March 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Here, lemme give you a one handed clap for that pile of hyperbole. When I hear “true conservatives” talk like that I think I can understand why voters aren’t impressed. Ever think that may be why GOP nominations may be trending more purple than you like? Ideological enemy, indeed. There’s some fine sales talk.
a capella on March 31, 2008 at 2:56 PM
PRESIDENT – VIRGINIA
John McCain (R) 58%
Hillary (D) 36%
John McCain (R) 52%
Barack Obama (D) 41%
jp on March 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM
The media, who gave us mccain also, keeps saying how popular crist is in Florida. The people who crist is popular with are going to vote democrat anyway. Put him on the ticket and it will make things very difficult for conservatives, who know what crist is all about, to vote for mccain.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM
McCain IS the left. The fact that so many Dems are willing to vote for him should clue you in to that fact. What does he he have to do, carve the information into you with a knife?
flenser on March 31, 2008 at 3:00 PM
If McCain wipes the floor with the Dem nominee are Pelosi & Reid and their gang going to “listen to the voices of the voters” and bend over and do whatever McCain tells them to? Ya know, like they expected Bush to do for them?
Somehow I doubt it.
29Victor on March 31, 2008 at 3:01 PM
No. Any other silly questions?
GOP nominations are trending to the left because that’s who Republicans are voting for. Why not just vote for the Dems instead?
flenser on March 31, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Where have you been. The new homestead law took hundreds of thousands of DEMOCRAT VOTERS off the tax rolls permanently. The counties will have to make up the difference by increasing millage rates for the rest of us. All the western state governors got together and decided to come down on the industry in those states more and institute algore type regulations and instead of opening his arms and inviting those industries to Florida, crist threw his lot in with democrat governors. crist wants to institute yearly emissions testing at a cost of millions to the taxpayers in initial costs on top of the yearly costs.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Hmmmmmm……why? We are riding the wave of no news is good news (for Johnny Mac). Wait til the Dems finally settle down and the MSM goes on the attack. Right now Johnny is sitting in the shadows and hopes the Dem fight keeps up, but sooner or later the spot light will land square on him.
The numbers are sure to level out once their is a Dem nom.
Limerick on March 31, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I don’t know what else Open Borders McAmnesty could say to get their vote.
brtex on March 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM
And Crist has followed Jeb Bush’s lead and said the won’t allow drilling off the FL coast.
Yessiree, much better to let China/Cuba develop that oilfield.
funky chicken on March 31, 2008 at 3:08 PM
That would be too big a risk. He is still an unknown in the country, except among conservatives, without enough accomplishments. If the ticket loses it could stain Jindal for good and ruin his future potential.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:09 PM
He’s leading BIG in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Missouri and Virginia. This is over. Hit the music. PRESIDENT JOHN SYNDNEY MCCAIN.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Yes. Will you define ideological enemy? Be precise. How can a voter not be your enemy? How much disagreement is allowed.
a capella on March 31, 2008 at 3:10 PM
The drilling issue gets very complicated and Florida continues to plod along like dolts.
tree hugging sister on March 31, 2008 at 3:11 PM
It shouldn’t have anything to do with it but do you seriously believe the msm will leave it alone? They will trot out every guy he ever had a one night stand with whether it’s true or not. We will spend the summer and fall hearing lots of fun details. The biggest problem is that he is a flaming, dishonest LIBERAL! I first heard the gay rumors hear on hotair in the last few months. I’ve never voted for him for state office because he’s a liar and a liberal.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Yes. Which more than a few of us were pointing out a long time ago, back when the entire right blogosphere was wailing and gnashing its teeth.
McCain will win. And he’ll be effective. And those who hate him will end up pleasantly surprised once in a while. You almost can’t help it – the expectations of some are so low.
You’ll see. Continue the wailing and gnashing until then.
Professor Blather on March 31, 2008 at 3:15 PM
I wondered what the “S” stood for.
Valiant on March 31, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Flenser, I wish I had said that.
I have to admit that I wish the Dem primary would end and the general election campaigns would start so that all of the McCain supporters would finally get a dose of what the media and campaign reality is going to be. I hope McCain and his family are ready.
BigD on March 31, 2008 at 3:18 PM
Bonnie Garcia of California. Much better conservative than Crist. Balances McCain with both youth and looks. Highest ranking female latino republican in the country.
Lets give the Black vote up as lost, especially if Obama is the candidate. Getting the Latino vote is the smart way to go. Getting Latinos to think of themselves as republicans, the same way the Blacks think of themselves as democrats, is a very worthy goal. That will help us get, and keep, Statehouses and majorities in both federal and state legislature.
talking_mouse on March 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM
And it’s not only Florida. The russians are drilling off the coast of Alaska while the democrats keep protecting the horseflies in ANWAR. All three of these candidates give lip service to energy independence but talk about it like in their first term some magical energy source will be created and rolled out. If we were to issue drilling permits tomorrow for drilling off of Florida and Alaska and in ANWAR as well as license a few more nuclear power plants and gasoline refineries the price of a barrel of oil would be down below $50 by the end of the week. Now how come our politicians aren’t moving on this?
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM
PRESIDENT JOHN SYNDNEY MCCAIN
I wondered what the “S” stood for.
Valiant on March 31, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Shithead, obviously.
But we beaten-up Republicans will probably just figure on Election Day that at least he’s OUR shithead.
TexasJew on March 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM
The drilling issue gets very complicated and Florida continues to plod along like dolts.
And it’s not only Florida. The russians are drilling off the coast of Alaska while the democrats keep protecting the horseflies in ANWAR. All three of these candidates give lip service to energy independence but talk about it like in their first term some magical energy source will be created and rolled out. If we were to issue drilling permits tomorrow for drilling off of Florida and Alaska and in ANWAR as well as license a few more nuclear power plants and gasoline refineries the price of a barrel of oil would be down below $50 by the end of the week. Now how come our politicians aren’t moving on this?
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:20 PM
peacenprosperity, just read my prior post..
TexasJew on March 31, 2008 at 3:22 PM
If the republicans could permanently lock up the latino vote jesse jackson and al sharpton would become republicans.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 3:23 PM
The real question is will there be riots when Obama gets the bejesus beaten out of him? Whitey fixin elections just like we did that aids virus.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 3:25 PM
OK… so what does the media go after him with?
I’m not saying they won’t, i just can’t imagine what the angle(s) will be. Anyone wanna help me out?
jdub on March 31, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, yeah.
Far left vs left is just so. . . exciting?
Nichevo on March 31, 2008 at 3:27 PM
AP, why can’t you bury your Romney hatchett. Best ticket is McCain/Romney. That is, if competence is an issue. If it’s just politics, anyone will do, eh?
eaglesdontflock on March 31, 2008 at 3:29 PM
The real test will be if McCain can out-lib the Libs. I can’t wait…
Redhead Infidel on March 31, 2008 at 3:30 PM
I’ve already heard talk about his age.
terryannonline on March 31, 2008 at 3:31 PM
eaglesdontflock on March 31, 2008 at 3:29 PM
The better Mav looks for the general the less and less Romenee has a chance for the ticket. He’ll probably hold out for a few more months before naming his buddy Lindsey to the ticket.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Anyone who starts bloviating about “re-education camps” needs to take a deep breath and get a life.
The_Freeze on March 31, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Not so fast. So much stuff can happen from now till November. Let’s wait and see.
terryannonline on March 31, 2008 at 3:39 PM
What does the media go after him with?
For starters — His age, his temper, his temperament for the presidency, his health (has had cancer), his tempestuous relationship with his own party, his wife, her money (marrying an heiress 20 years his junior after dumping his first wife), her drug problem. The media will also go after him on the war in Iraq.
BigD on March 31, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Blech. They’ve been around as long as he’s been in the public eye. And who cares and why should they? If his private life is private and he’s not purchasing sexual favors like certain governors in recent memory or waving dollar bills under a wall or spilling ‘things’ on someone else’s clothing in the executive office, WHO cares? He got 52% of the vote here and trust me, if the Dems could have trotted out a boytoy, they would have.
Leave the cheap ‘gay’ shots to others.
Did you read what I had originally posted about? The fact that they were redrawing the lines diagonally because of FL’s intransigence on the drilling.
I love how we all point to CA as the bastion of earthiness, but Floridians sure as h*ll DRIVE everywhere and use tons of petrol in their boats. So why are we so special that we can consume but don’t have to contribute? (And make a little easy earned cash at the same time…) Well, this kind of plan is payback for the NIMBY* in every Floridian. Here in Bangla-cola, it gets downright dicey fuel-wise after a hurricane, even if it wasn’t OUR hurricane, because every drop of petrol comes by BARGE. Yup. Barge. Like a Third freakin’ World country.
As for Crist’s vice-presidential aspirations, good luck to him, but I’d be very surprised is he bugged out. We have a long memory here and don’t cooton to taking a sweet deal right after we elected your butt. Two words: Joe ScrewYourBorough.
*Not In My Back Yard
tree hugging sister on March 31, 2008 at 3:42 PM
To all those who are suggesting that only reason McCain is winning in these traditionally blue states is that he is a “liberal”. Reagan won a ton of “blue” states in 1984 and made them red, was he also a liberal? And do any of you doubt that he won’t win all the red states? He leads big in Virginia and other southern states.
John McCain is getting a large majority of republicans and peeling off independents and conservative dems. He is doing well because he is a great candidate, the best we could have picked for this election.
Complete7 on March 31, 2008 at 3:42 PM
The Blue state/Red state color scheme may need to change to Yellow state/Blue state, to reflect the new political realities.
Right_of_Attila on March 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Yep….McAmnesty is a mixture of indigo blue,sky blue, and royal blue. I wish he was more navy blue.
But, either way, McAmnest gives me the blues.
saiga on March 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM
And we don’t even have superdelegates.
California has a good chance of going McCain, but not only because of Latinos – huge amount of independents, liberals/conservatives neither in the majority, and Arnold’s support. Also, possibility of VP from Cali.
Entelechy on March 31, 2008 at 3:44 PM
Please be factual. Rant all you wish against him, or anyone, but based on fact/s. He and his first wife were separated when he met this one. The first wife will be the first to tell you that. She says the marriage was over when he met Cindy. Check into this.
Entelechy on March 31, 2008 at 3:49 PM
No: McCain turning red party blue.
FloatingRock on March 31, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Although Romney was not conservative on some issues in the past, he AT LEAST admitted that he had been wrong and AT LEAST showed an interest in leaning conservative.
Quite the opposit with mcCain. He is quite proud of the fact he is super friends with the other side of the aisle.
I don’t understand the support of McCain by any Republican so, there you go.
Besides, I happen to believe that our Economy is the #1 issue this election. Romney wins that hands down over McCain. Now if McCain puts Romney on the ticket, I might be able to vote for him.
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Any links to this info? I’ve heard and read quite the opposit for many years and believe McCain even admitted such by saying he should have handled that whole “affair” better.
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Puzzles me too. At the end there we had a choice between Romney’s socialized health care or McCain’s open borders.
FloatingRock on March 31, 2008 at 4:13 PM
You are so hot for Lindsey.
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 4:15 PM
stenwin77 on March 31, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Lindsey rules!!!
Still say Mav has no shot of winning einstein?
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 31, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Florida will easily go for McCain, as he campaigns on the “I promise to keep those kids off your lawn” platform :)
William Teach on March 31, 2008 at 4:26 PM
I’m reading news of McCain’s current “biography” tour and apparently it has flavors of both John Edwards (the parental/family history — ridiculous when you’re 72 years old) and John Kerry (seems he has a kind of “Lt. Commander John McCain, reporting for duty” ad going on.”
McCain has to talk primarily issues in this campaign, not primarily biography. Anyone interested in his biography already knows it. His problem is that on issues, he’s liberal.
BigD on March 31, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Don’t think I could even hold my nose to vote for any ticket with Crist on it. The man is raw ambition, an empty suit, devoid of any principles. I suspect there are a few skeletons there as well.
obladioblada on March 31, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Because of McCain’s moderate positions and his willingness to reach out to Dims, he will be an acceptable alternative to moderate Dims and Independents who are fed up with the fringe element in the party and their fringe candidate. An old adage is campaign to the middle, and govern from the fringes. Well, there is no way that Barry is going to capture the middle from McCain. McCain will be able to siphon votes from the Dims and help capture the WH. Now, if we can get McCain to govern from the right, we’ll be okay……
Mallard T. Drake on March 31, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Agreed. McCain is more Democrat than Republican.
Relevant post in another thread.
Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Am I the first to say it? Mavalanche!
steadyrock on March 31, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Our only hope is to win back control of 1 or both houses of Congress. With a Democrat congress, McCain would flip us the bird. With a conservative Republican congress, there’s at least some hope of keeping him in check, but expect more Souters on the Supreme Court.
Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I take that back…my real hope is in a miracle that makes Mike Huckabee the next President of the United States. And I don’t want to hear anyone say that Huckabee is Jimmy Carter with an (R) by his name. I challenge anyone to show me what about Huckabee’s stand on the issues is anything less than the very definition of conservative values.
The truth is that McCain is John Kerry with an (R) by his name.
Red Pill on March 31, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Well Romney has a lot less experience in Government financing, budget and spending then McCain. A world of difference between private financing and public. Like comparing a sports car to a bulldozer.
Romney “said” he wants to be conservative, at least with McCain you know where he stands. You never quite knew where Mitt stood from week to week (or was it weak to weak).
right2bright on March 31, 2008 at 5:14 PM
McCain running strongly in some Democratic states, particularly New Jersey.
Angst is setting in.
Entelechy on March 31, 2008 at 6:13 PM
mccain was a senator. How many budgets has he written or even tried to meet? None.
peacenprosperity on March 31, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Angst is setting in.
Fear is setting in.
Bishop on March 31, 2008 at 6:34 PM
John McCain may or may not pick up some blue states in 2008. But his amnesty policies will negatively impact the GOP in the future. Because of John McCain’s enthusiastic support for amnesty for illegal aliens, Texas will eventually become a reliable deep-blue Democrat state.
The GOP’s loss of Texas’s 34 electoral votes will lead to a permanent Democrat majority.
From the NRO John O’Sullivan article:
I have several good Hispanic friends who are strong GOP conservatives. But even my Hispanic friends wonder why John McCain actively supports rewarding people who break the laws with the gift of USA citizenship.
I know statistics and polls change because people and circumstances change over time. But I think McCain has not considered
amnesty’s negative impact on future elections.
Yes, yes, I know McCain is a war hero.
But many fear his amnesty policies will spell the end of the GOP, from an electoral college prospective.
ColtsFan on March 31, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Here is a second try at the html link:
The GOP’s loss of Texas’s 34 electoral votes will lead to a
permanent Democrat majority.
ColtsFan on March 31, 2008 at 7:46 PM
All looks well as of now, but we are still a few days away from election day.
oakpack on March 31, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Truth hurts, doesn’t it?
I’m not forcing you to agree with me. Unlike you Quislings, I never told you to “Shut the f**k up and support a particular candidate.” McCain does not hold my views on the vast majority of issues. He is, in fact, an ideological enemy. I will not shut the f**k up. If you all want to infest the GOP with your political treason, there will be a third party in 2012 because rank-and-file conservatives are outraged more than you Quislings seem to be able to comprehend.
highhopes on March 31, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Yes, but people like my liberal friend, who HATE Hillary, and think Obama is too unready for the presidency, have told me that they’re comfortable voting for McCain.
It’s better than Hillary or Obama.
See, my question to all you Repubs: If your party is so conservative, howcome you keep nominating liberal Republicans?
Meryl Yourish on March 31, 2008 at 10:17 PM
HH, if you want to go on a jihad to try and preserve the ideological purity of the GOP by driving out everybody you consider at all moderate, expect it to be a pretty lonely battle. The conservative candidate was Romney, and he lost pretty convincingly across the board in the primary. Hard partisanship is not where the nation and the party is at right now, and by running in the middle McCain is poised to have a shot at winning an election the GOP by all rights should have no reasonable expectation of victory in, after the trouncing in ‘06 and very low popularity of GWB.
As far as labeling most of the rest of us as “Quislings” and moderation as “treason”, well…“If this be treason, make the most of it.” - P. Henry
tagryn on March 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM
I’m guessing the Keating Five gets heavy discussion. They follow it up with that lobbyist the press was trying to claim he was sleeping with.
Then maybe some 100 years in Iraq. He’s too old. Keating Five some more. Try to tie him to some other lobbyists. Claim he’s a far rightwinger because he was a war proponent.
And then some more on the Keating Five. Then his age and notably bad temperament (which will probably get worse with his former friends trashing him). If it is against Obama they will call him a racist and bring up his comments about the North Vietnamese. If it against Hillary they will call him a misogynist.
Wash, rinse, repeat
Will it work? Tough to say since the MSM has been building McCain up since 2000. But they will try…
18-1 on March 31, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Don’t confuse the Huckabee fans with facts, Entelechy. They are going to stick to principle and vote for the most conservative candidate, which … uh … is … er … oh. McCain?
Jaibones on March 31, 2008 at 11:19 PM
tagryn on March 31, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Oh very nice, liken my ideas to Islamic extremism because you can’t refute them. You people truly are ideologically bankrupt aren’t you. I won’t shed a tear when your falsehoods go down in flames.
highhopes on March 31, 2008 at 11:46 PM
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