Two senior advisors: We’ll tell Hillary to quit if she loses Indiana

posted at 4:15 pm on March 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

A belated answer to my question yesterday about what the party elders can do to force her out. Answer: Nothing. In her mind it’s Hillary against the world, and if the world wants her beaten, well, that’s just the world up to its old tricks again. But what if someone inside the fort tells her it’s time? Tucked away at the end of this New York mag piece, which leads with candy about how much Elizabeth Edwards “hates her guts,” lies a hint:

No, according to Hillary’s adjutants, the people most likely to have sway with her on this topic are not party elders at all but instead her fiercest loyalists, those who’ve won her trust over the years by dint of their unwavering support. Familiar names from the annals of Clintondom are mentioned: Terry McAuliffe, Vernon Jordan, Rahm Emanuel (likely the only person in this club who is also close to Obama). So, too, are prominent endorsers such as Pennsylvania governor Ed Rendell. “If one of her major African-American endorsers, like Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, told her it was time to quit, that would be very powerful,” adds a senior Clinton adviser. Oh, and let us not forget her husband.

She and her team seem to be in that stage near the end of a relationship where both sides know it’s over but they’ve been together so long, and they know the break-up will be so messy, that they’re putting off having The Talk until something forces it. Per the Times, that something is Indiana:

Mrs. Clinton’s aides said they could see no circumstance in which she would withdraw unless she lost Pennsylvania on April 22. Two senior advisers and one close ally said they would urge her to quit the race if she lost Indiana two weeks later, on May 6…

Some of her associates said Indiana was now a must-win state for her. A defeat there would make it even more mathematically improbable that she would win the nomination and undercut any boost she might achieve from a victory in Pennsylvania.

The most recent Indiana poll I can find puts him up 15 points, although it was taken a month before the Wright thing exploded. Combined with his 20-point lead in North Carolina, I’m starting to suspect people in the party are lying back simply to give her one last courtesy hurrah in Pennsylvania in the expectation that she’ll then flame out in Indiana and North Carolina and they can bring down the hammer full force. Karol’s got your exit questions, but I’ll add one of my own: Which Clinton lackey will be the one tasked with having The Talk with her? It … won’t be Bill, will it? And an exit quotation from the Times: “In a conversation with two Democratic allies, she compared the situation to the ‘big boys’ trying to bully a woman…” Of course she did.


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Count Michigan and Florida.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 29, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Bill: “Hill, honey, I’m sorry, we’re through…”

Hill: “Bill, you are soooo right…”

Romeo13 on March 29, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Before the talk, be sure to remove all the lamps from the room.

WasatchMan on March 29, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Another good question: How does Obama spin a big lose in Pennsylvania?

Um, you know, swing states really don’t matter?

terryannonline on March 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM

“Breaking news: two Hillary Clinton campaign advisors commit suicide by gunshot to back of head after Indiana loss.”

William Teach on March 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Which or how many “Judas’s” would dare?

She will not quit unless properly bribed. Money? Supreme Court Appointment? Leader of the Dim party? Dim leader of the Senate?

dhunter on March 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM

She and her team seem to be in that stage near the end of a relationship where both sides know it’s over but they’ve been together so long, and they know the break-up will be so messy, that they’re putting off having The Talk until something forces it.

And you better believe it’s going to be the version of The Talk wherein clothes end up on fire in the front lawn.

its vintage duh on March 29, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Operation Chaos is a success so far…

I’m glad one conservative “General” found that he had a pair….

Dr. Gecko on March 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM

She is a Clinton..
She is power hungry..

and I repeat myself..

but I don’t think she’ll be going down without a nasty dragout fight.. sort of a ‘Bonnie and Clyde’ style exit would be one way she would go…

The other, something ‘happen’ to Obama..

if she has something on BO, other than Rev. Wright, she’s got to be holding onto it for JUST THE RIGHT time.. maybe before the convention… to do maximum damage to the Messiah..

But then, BO might have enough clout in the media that the alphabet networks really believe he could walk on water and no matter what Hillery would affect BO..

DaveC on March 29, 2008 at 4:40 PM

So, when BHO goes down in flames in November, will she have the last laugh? Initially, I thought she would be the easiest one to beat. But, after the Rev. Wright scandals, he’s dead meat.

Blake on March 29, 2008 at 4:45 PM

Some how I just have more faith in Hillary. I think even is she loses all three of the up coming states that she has more tricks in her bag. Like maybe some alien mother ship with snatch Obama and McCain and leave the world crying for her leadership. You know stranger things have happened.

USBB on March 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Initially, I thought she would be the easiest one to beat. But, after the Rev. Wright scandals, he’s dead meat.

I wouldn’t be so confident. Someone that can beat the Clinton team shouldn’t be taken lightly.

terryannonline on March 29, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Someone that can beat the Clinton team shouldn’t be taken lightly.

He hasn’t beaten her though. He is at best ahead a pawn or three in a game of chess that is headed toward a draw. He couldn’t close the deal in NH; He couldn’t close the deal in TX and Ohio. Obama’s impressive victories were before the candidate was vetted to any depth.

Spirit of 1776 on March 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Can we assume that Hillary is actually in control of all this? If she is a quocker-wodger with Mr Soros pulling the strings, she may have no choice but to soldier on.

LaMonte on March 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Gore and Edwards may have the most party clout. But there’s only one person Hillary will finally listen to. Her name isn’t Bill

They have no clout with her. That picture with her back, and the two lackeys, is precious.

How can Clinton be stopped from putting the party through three more months of hell? Where are those vaunted “party elders” who can convince her that it’s sayonara time?

The “party elders” have no clout either. She considers Pelosi a chicken-brain, or a chicken, and Reid, well poor Mr. Reid…It’s telling that the libs have no leaders. 2006, Nov. might prove to be a blessing, for this exposure, and others.

For if HRC believes that Obama will lose in November, there can be no doubt that she’s already calculating, in the back of her head, the best way to position herself for 2012. A scorched-earth campaign against Obama is plainly not the way to do that. A classy exit, a show of unity, an act that apparently places party before self: That’s the ticket.

Therein lies the major flaw, in an otherwise pretty good article. How could/would she run in 2012 if Obama wins 2008?

It’s now or 2012 for her, and it’s long not over, for now. She’d rather McCain win, than Obama. That way her 2012 path it open. She would have proof that Obama couldn’t win. His rerun in 2012 would also be tougher. She could be governor of NY for a couple of years, or in charge of the Senate (this more likely), and go at it with renewed force/s.

Entelechy on March 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Another good question: How does Obama spin a big lose in Pennsylvania?

Um, you know, swing states really don’t matter?

terryannonline on March 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Democrats in Pennsylvania, California, New York, Texas and Ohio that voted for Hillary just racists. >:D

Chakra Hammer on March 29, 2008 at 4:58 PM

If she is a quocker-wodger with Mr Soros pulling the strings, she may have no choice but to soldier on.

LaMonte on March 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Soros is crapping concurrently into both latrines, and McCain might win. That w/b the ultimate Schadenfreude against the creep that Soros is.

Entelechy on March 29, 2008 at 4:59 PM

Operation Chaos is a success so far…

I’m glad one conservative “General” found that he had a pair….

Dr. Gecko on March 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Ehhh.. Obama lost California by 9%, Florida by 17%, New York by 17%, before that started..

If Rush is so persuasive, why do we have McCain?

Chakra Hammer on March 29, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Therein lies the major flaw, in an otherwise pretty good article. How could/would she run in 2012 if Obama wins 2008?

It’s now or 2012 for her, and it’s long not over, for now. She’d rather McCain win, than Obama. That way her 2012 path it open. She would have proof that Obama couldn’t win. His rerun in 2012 would also be tougher. She could be governor of NY for a couple of years, or in charge of the Senate (this more likely), and go at it with renewed force/s.

Entelechy on March 29, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Yep. Obama has something neither our gal or McCain have,…relative youth. But, Bobby Jindal is lurking in the 2012 weed patch and the donks are very aware of it.

a capella on March 29, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Non-story. She will not quit, because it’s her turn and she’s entitled. Besides, many of the superdelegates owe their jobs to her and her husband. And she will get the nomination.

Where’s my Jiffy-Pop? As much fun to make as it is to eat!

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2008 at 5:14 PM

It won’t be Bill that gives The Talk — he wants this thing even more than her. And he’s got nothing to lose if she flames out.

Cuffy Meigs on March 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Someone is going to pay for this debacle. My guess is they’ll pin it on Chelsea.

Cicero43 on March 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM

ignore me poor use of pronouns…

Cuffy Meigs on March 29, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Yep. Obama has something neither our gal or McCain have,…relative youth. But, Bobby Jindal is lurking in the 2012 weed patch and the donks are very aware of it.

a capella on March 29, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Mondale tried to attack Reagan about his age in 1984(it didn’t work)

Chakra Hammer on March 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Awwwwww crappppp! That means more of Bill and Hill and Chels around here. Damnit! I was bad enough that Glacier was at Ben Davis High School this morning.

I guess it could be worse. We could the Messiah stumping around here….Oh wait. He’s running TV spots and opening new offices in Indy. Great. I especially love the ” I’m larger-the-life” cartoonish posters he’s sporting around town.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 29, 2008 at 5:25 PM

If Rush is so persuasive, why do we have McCain?

Chakra Hammer on March 29, 2008 at 5:06 PM

B/C the only group Senor Juan Hennessey McSham didn’t win in any primary were republicans…. Crossover vote in Florida (b/c dem primary didn’t matter) tipped to Tosser McCain. McCain hardly won any states in the south; however he did do excellente in moderate to liberal states.
Nice try though….

Branch Rickey on March 29, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Non-story. She will not quit, because it’s her turn and she’s entitled. Besides, many of the superdelegates owe their jobs to her and her husband. And she will get the nomination.

Del Dolemonte on March 29, 2008 at 5:14 PM

And a whole lotta FBI files…..she will burn down the house before she lets The Obama have it. Not Czarina Cankles style. I’m with you on this one, DEL DOLEMONTE

Branch Rickey on March 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Pretty sure Obama will soundly carry Gary, Indiana. Purely because of his judgement.

sheesh on March 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM

Mondale tried to attack Reagan about his age in 1984(it didn’t work)

Chakra Hammer on March 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM

I’m talking about the next election cycle and beyond. Hillary could conceivably have one more shot, but Obama and Jindal would have the edge.

a capella on March 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Personally, I’m donating money to Hillary. The primary is over here in Georgia, but the fight isn’t. I’m backing Hillary all the way to the convention, and putting my money where my mouth is.

Snake307 on March 29, 2008 at 5:43 PM

“Breaking news: two Hillary Clinton campaign advisors commit suicide by gunshot to back of head after Indiana loss.”

Kinda like that exchange in Casablanca. Committed suicide, or shot while trying to escape. It’s pretty much the same thing. Well guys, “Round up the usual suspects.” Pass the popcorn. We have a long and enjoyable time till Denver. I wonder what the ‘whopper of the week’ will be from camp Clinton next week. I really need more popcorn.

Orson Buggeigh on March 29, 2008 at 5:52 PM

All of this assumes that Hillary will bow to the “Good of the Party” throw her support to Obama and accept the inevitable like a good soldier.

I suggest that this is in error, and that knackering Obama… deluxe, royal, and a la mode, will be in her best interest.

In her mind, SHE IS PRESIDENTIAL. Obama is an upstart. He must be destroyed for his impudence.

Here’s how the destruction will occur:

She will NOT bow out, nor surrender, nor gracefully do anything of the sort. She will carry the rancorous, bitter fight to the convention and use ‘scorched-earth’ rhetoric until the last partisan is dead.

Why?

If he tanks in the general as Mondale did, she will be PERFECTLY situated to come back in 4 years with her “I TOLD YOU SO” campaign, and… (God help me), try again.

Bill’s down with this, so desperate is he for the bully pulpit of the White House, just to have a shot at changing his “Lewinsky Presidue” legacy to something less (ahem) seminal. It’s his last hope to lose “Slick Willy the Cigar President” as the epitaph he will be buried under.

Already happening…

Watch for rampant feminist dissection of the “Misogynistic campaign of ’08″ as prelude. Already they’re ramping up the “womyn hater” rhetoric, and competely ignoring the fact that America DOES NOT ‘hate’ women! We don’t hate women in general, women in business or women in politics.

A majority of the electorate just doesn’t like Hillary Clinton. She’s the “head cheese” on the cold cut tray of Presidential politics.

Me? I don’t like her for herself and never have. I despise Bill Clinton as a crapulent, dirty little boy, and I’m really starting to not like Chelsea.

heldmyw on March 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I’d take a Maggie Thatcher, black, white, red, or yellow.

a capella on March 29, 2008 at 6:06 PM

I won’t believe that Hillary is defeated until Obama gives the acceptance speech at the convention. And even then, I’ll wait for something to happen.

She will never give up.

Rightwingsparkle on March 29, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Hillary should run as a third party candidate…

DfDeportation on March 29, 2008 at 6:42 PM

hillary quits /say it aint so joe/2 much fun dont stop the ride

rico101 on March 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Get “heldmyw” his own column!

leftnomore on March 29, 2008 at 7:13 PM

She will never quit and Obama will end up with 50 self-inflicted stab wounds.

flytier on March 29, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I live in Indiana, and I think Hillary has a better chance of winning here than Obama does.

Terrye on March 29, 2008 at 7:43 PM

Question: Does a ‘scorched earth’ plan mean the same thing as “you’ll nominate me if you know what’s good for you!”?
And if it does,would that imply that a whole lot of superdelegates know the truth about the Clintons’ vicious streaks? Or in a kiss-your-elected-office goodbye way?

localmalcontent on March 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Sh

e’d rather McCain win, than Obama.

That’s my girl

Leave Hillary alone AllahObama

windansea on March 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM

She’s the “head cheese” on the cold cut tray of Presidential politics.

ROTFLMAO!

*polite golf clap* for heldmyw

Nahanni on March 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Go away, Hillary. Sixteen years of you is enough. We are sick of you. You are a pathological liar. Your total self-absorption is reckless. Your fame originates not from accomplishments – you have none – but from your dishonesty and mouthiness. You have nothing new to add to the debate – your ideas are tired, recycled socialism. You’ve shown utter contempt for the institutions America holds dear, and we deeply resent you for it. We’re tired of your lies, your phoniness, your condescension and your arrogance. We’re tired of your shrill whining and negativity. We’re tired of looking at your face. Go away.

whitetop on March 29, 2008 at 8:35 PM

If you think about it, Rahm Emanuel is the only member of the Clinton Campaign Cabala who stands to win even if she loses. Should Shillary indeed go down in flames in Indiana, he can very easily sashay over to B.O.’s side and be welcome with open arms. As for the rest of the Clinton crowd, Jimmy “Serpenthead” Carville especially, they will most likely wind up on the outside looking in.

pilamaye on March 29, 2008 at 9:35 PM

The hate of Hillary among the Republicans is incommensurable.

Putting McCain aside, you idiots, how can you prefer an America-Hater over Hillary?

Even if Hillary’s chance is getting slimmer, how confident are you in a McCain win? And why not supporting Hillary anyway, just in case?

Have you forgotten the idiot Lefties who are voting for Hussein, not only the Lefties, but many of your fellow idiots Republicans who are fascinated with shallowness and Affirmative Action?

Let me talk a little bit about you, Republicans:

The Republicans are lost.

What do you guys want?

You are divided among yourselves. You can’t make up your minds on your own Party’s affairs, so how can you make a sound decision concerning the other side anyway?

Conservatives are the only ones who think and see clearly and wisely, and because they know what they want, because they stick to their principles in spit of all the attacks against them (from the Left and from the Right), because Conservatives are no longer represented in the Republican Party especially with McCain and the top leadership being Liberals as they are, I do not consider myself a member of the Republican Party.

I renounce the Republican Party.

It is no longer the Party of Ronald Reagan.

It is no longer the Party which was based on the hardcore Conservative principles of its founding Fathers.

The Republican Party became a Party of schmucks, crooks and liars. It has leaned to the left, one cannot see a big difference between a Democratic Party and its mild version incarnated in the Republican Party. We’ve experienced it when it was in power for many recent years.

I am not a Republican, hence my nickname.

I am a proud Independent Conservative.

Indy Conservative on March 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Rea

Indy Conservative on March 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Reagan coalesced the Republicans on a conservative agenda against many of their wills. The grassroots were always conservative whereas the politboro never was.

They were a party of schmucks, crooks and liars before Reagan and are just reverting to their nature. McCain is just a symptom of this trend.

Valiant on March 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Do not count Hillary out in NC…even without Operation Chaos. We don’t like racist preachers down here, nor their followers.

SouthernGent on March 29, 2008 at 10:24 PM

But what if someone inside the fort tells her it’s time?

What if? Does it really matter?

This is Hillary Clinton’s one shot at the Presidency promised to her for decades in return for loyal devotion to Bill Clinton. You really think she is going to cede just because she isn’t able to win the popular vote?

highhopes on March 29, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Reminds me of when Kramer has to tell Sophia Lauren she’s fired…

LimeyGeek on March 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM

If your advisors say you have to win or you are out then you know they believe Indiana will be theirs.
Classic ruse.

jjshaka on March 29, 2008 at 11:11 PM

I can’t imagine her folding. There is not a gracious or compromising bone in her body. She will fight it out on the floor of the convention.

But I am not sure she will have a second shot down the road in 2012 or later. With half the Donks not going along with a coronation in 2008, and supporting such a light weight as Obama, I am not sure she would have anymore support four years from now.

And Obama is a light weight. The only reason that he has such fierce and widespread support is because there is such a fierce and widespread hate of Hillary in Donkeyland.

JonRoss on March 29, 2008 at 11:23 PM

I am not a Republican, hence my nickname.

Indy Conservative

I always assumed it was because you were from Indiana.

p40tiger on March 29, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Hillary isn’t as smart as we’ve been led to believe, but she isn’t stupid either. If she loses in PA, IN or NC she won’t need anyone to tell her it’s over.
I think she knows it already and has known since at least the Chesapeake primaries. She’s thinking about 2012. Obama must not win in November. That’s her rationale for staying in. Also, there’s still a 5% chance she’ll win the nomination after all.

infidel65 on March 30, 2008 at 5:26 AM

Indy Conservative on March 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Reagan coalesced the Republicans on a conservative agenda against many of their wills. The grassroots were always conservative whereas the politboro never was.

They were a party of schmucks, crooks and liars before Reagan and are just reverting to their nature. McCain is just a symptom of this trend.

Valiant on March 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Because the Party is not sticking to its core beliefs, because it’s pandering and leaning to the left, the Republican Party has no reason to exist. It might as well form a coalition with the Democratic Party and share power in every election.

Indy Conservative on March 30, 2008 at 6:00 AM

I am not a Republican, hence my nickname.

Indy Conservative

I always assumed it was because you were from Indiana.

p40tiger on March 29, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Well I’m glad I mentioned it.

I’m from Florida. Although Indiana is considered a conservative state.

Indy Conservative on March 30, 2008 at 6:03 AM

Everyone’s been telling her to quit. She ain’t listening.

dogsoldier on March 30, 2008 at 8:21 AM

Meanwhile, back at the Dallas ranch in Texas, Hillary wants to be the peanutbutter, and Obama’s the jelly:

A weary Mr. West conceded that the process had flaws. In his convention, a computer system went down, a woman fainted and it was discovered that the delegates from some precincts were never recorded into the system.
“It’s a nightmare,” he said at one point. “The system wasn’t designed for all these people. The process is a nightmare.”
Party leaders sought to keep the machinery running and remind the crowd that, in the end, they’re on the same side as Democrats.
“It’s like asking if I like peanut butter and jelly or jelly and peanut butter,” said Dan Woolery, a precinct chairman attending the District 9 convention at South Grand Prairie High School.
12:23 AM CDT on Sunday, March 30, 2008
By GROMER JEFFERS / The Dallas Morning News
gjeffers@dallasnews.com

maverick muse on March 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM


Bill: “Hill, honey, I’m sorry, we’re through…”

Hill: “Bill, you are soooo right…”

Romeo13 on March 29, 2008 at 4:19 PM

”Shame on you…”

Monas on March 30, 2008 at 10:03 AM

McCain already won. Let’s start gutting the government already and take the power away from the political class. The way these stories run, these people don’t work for us, we’re controlled by them. Purge the socialists and let’s get to work on getting rid of all things socialist like Income Tax, welfare, etc…..

adamsmith on March 30, 2008 at 10:32 AM

No, no, Hillary! DON’T QUIT!
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Let the Democratic Party fratricide continue! Let the blood flow! Let the ill-will grow! And as Sun-Tzu said, “Never interrupt your enemy while he (the Democratic Party) is making a mistake.
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The Democratic Party truly is facing a genuine deep crisis, which they and their lickspittle MSM toadies are loathe to cover or even admit.
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Here’s a short AP article, with my neo-con commentary added. With today’s biased MSM, one must read carefully, looking for what’s “between the lines” and what’s unsaid, then make logical inferences and deductions. In this sometimes, political hacks and lickspittle leftist MSM toadies accidentally, unintentionally tell the truth:
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Party Fears Tight Obama-Clinton Finish
By CHARLES BABINGTON, AP
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WASHINGTON (AP) – For all their delight in soaring voter registration and strong poll numbers, some Democrats fear the contest between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton might have a nightmarish end, which could wreck a promising election year.
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The chief worry is that Clinton may carry her recent winning streak into Pennsylvania, Indiana, North Carolina and other states, leaving her with unquestioned momentum but fewer pledged delegates than Obama. Party leaders then would face a wrenching choice: Steer the nomination to a fading Obama, even as signs suggested Clinton could be the stronger candidate in November; or go with the surging Clinton and risk infuriating Obama’s supporters, especially blacks, the Democratic Party’s most loyal base.
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[MY COMMENT: CORRECTION-"...blacks, the Democratic Party's most brainwashed, manipulated base."]
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Some anxious Democrats want party elders to step in now to generate more “superdelegate” support for Obama, effectively choking off Clinton’s hopes before she can bolster them further. But many say that is unlikely, and they pray the final 10 contests will make the ultimate choice fairly obvious, not excruciating.
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Barring a complete meltdown by Obama, Clinton has almost no chance of surpassing his number of pledged delegates, even if she scores upset wins in states such as Oregon, which votes May 20. But such victories would encourage her to keep criticizing Obama – her only hope for the nomination – and thus heighten doubts about Obama’s ability to defeat Republican Sen. John McCain in the fall..
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That scenario troubles many Democrats, especially those who feel Obama’s nomination is all but inevitable. “This is going to give Republicans a chance to try to destroy everything we’ve been trying to work for for eight years,” said Ken Foxworth, a Democratic National Committee member from Minnesota and superdelegate who backs Obama.
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Superdelegates are party officials, including members of Congress, who can back any candidate they wish. With neither Obama nor Clinton able to secure the nomination with the pledged delegates they win in primaries and caucuses, the superdelegates ultimately will decide the outcome.
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[MY COMMENT: "Superdelegates" are the au courant term for "party bosses". This system of around 800 Superdelegates was set up so that they could make or break a leading nomination contender, to be in perpetual real control of the Party.]

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Many undeclared superdelegates express confidence that all will be well. Democratic voters will unite in the fall, they say, and the injuries that Obama and Clinton inflict on each other this spring will heal.
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[MY COMMENT: That's the yadda, yadda that they have to say, whether or not they believe it. The next sentence clarifies their dilemma.]
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Privately, however, some party insiders worry that these superdelegates may be blithely marching toward a treacherous crossroad, where they will have to choose between a deeply wounded Obama and a soaring Clinton whose success was built on tearing down the party’s front-runner in terms of delegates..
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A senior Democratic Senate aide, who would speak only on background because most members of Congress bar their staff members from being quoted by name, called it a nightmare that’s getting worse. The Democrats’ optimism of February has been replaced by fear, this aide said, referring to the widely held view last month that Obama was coasting to the nomination after winning 11 straight contests. Clinton halted the skid in Texas and Ohio on March 4 and is favored to win the Pennsylvania primary on April 22.
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If the New York senator also tops Obama in Indiana and North Carolina on May 6, West Virginia a week later, and Kentucky and/or Oregon on May 20, her supporters will argue that the dynamic has sharply changed in ways party leaders cannot ignore. Obama is no longer the sure-footed campaigner who piled up wins and delegates in February, they will say, and the superdelegates’ obligation to the party is to nominate the sprinting Clinton, even if it angers Obama backers.
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Of course, Obama could practically extinguish Clinton’s final hopes by winning one or more of those states. Many Democrats believe he will, suggesting Clinton’s continued campaign is a hopeless, albeit potentially harmful, endeavor.
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Obama’s nomination is “a foregone conclusion,” Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., told National Journal. Dodd endorsed Obama after trying for the nomination himself.
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[MY COMMENT: Meaningless statement from this party hack who has always floated back and forth with the tide.].
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He’s ahead of Clinton in delegates, popular votes, states won and fundraising. Obama seems nearly certain to finish the primary season far ahead of Clinton financially. At the end of February his campaign had $30 million on hand, while Clinton’s had only $3 million more in cash than in debts.
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[MY COMMENT: There's the real problem for Hillary- Money. She and Bill surely don't want to spend any of their approximately $60 MILLION.].
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Some Obama supporters question Clinton’s motives: They suggest she is counting on a stunning gaffe or shocking revelation to cripple Obama and hand her the nomination. Others float a more sinister possibility, which has found its way into mainstream news accounts: Clinton hopes to damage Obama so severely that he loses to McCain this fall, clearing her path to challenge McCain in 2012, when he will be 75.
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Clinton scoffs at such suggestions, and calls on voters to support whomever is the Democratic nominee in November.

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[MY COMMENT: Of course, she scoffs! If it's untrue, she would of course scoff. If it's true she would have to scoff.]

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Whatever her motives, many Democrats fear that Clinton’s continued criticisms can only hurt the man they see as their all-but-certain nominee. *They point to a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton’s Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party’s nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama’s supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod. .
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[MY COMMENT: THIS is what the party bosses fear. For all the Democratic candidates' and mouthpieces b*llsh*t and their MSM toadies' b*llsh*t, they all KNOW that McCain is a VERY formidable candidate. If McCain can take this many DEMOCRAT votes, that logically also says he'd clean up in the uncommitted center, Main Street America, where elections are lost or won. "President McCain!"... "President McCain!"... "President McCain!"... ]
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Faced with such disturbing trends, some Democrats want party elders either to persuade Clinton to drop out, or to orchestrate enough superdelegate endorsements of Obama to make her defeat inevitable. But high-profile Democrats, including former president Jimmy Carter, former vice president Al Gore, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, have refrained from such moves so far.
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[MY COMMENT: The Democratic Party's faced with the fact that there is no way to solve this dilemma that's not very ugly, very complicated and very damaging. And of course, NOBODY wants to put their own *ss on the line! This has gotten truly Byzantine!!!]
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“My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner,” Dean told The Associated Press.
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[MY COMMENT: Translating DNC Chairman Howard Dean's statement from B*llsh*t to English: "My job is to prevent a catastrophic split in the Party, a racial split between blacks and whites that could destroy the Democratic Party."]
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THAT’S the potential threat that Hillary now poses to the Democratic Party. If she loses the nomination fight, she and Bill don’t care a whit if the Democratic Party falls apart. They have no further use for Party or Party cohesion at that point. She has a safe seat in the Senate, around $20 million from her books and other sources of income; Bill has his ex-President gig to play on, along with the estimated $40 million he’s made post-Presidency.]
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Indeed, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi drew objections from Clinton backers when she approached the issue by saying she shared Obama’s view that superdelegates should be guided by the vote for pledged delegates.
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This week, one of Obama’s prominent supporters, Sen. Patrick Leahy took the next step. The Vermont Democrat who chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee said Clinton can’t win enough delegates and should drop out and support Obama.

Ferrel Guillory, director of the Program on Southern Politics, Media, and Public Life at the University of North Carolina, said it’s probably asking too much of Dean and others to step in. In an era of sharply contested primaries and largely meaningless nominating conventions, he said “we don’t have any power brokers any more” who could somehow negotiate a resolution.
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Pat Waak, chairwoman of the Colorado Democratic Party, said the worriers should relax. “I actually think it’s good for the party to get through this process,” she said. “It gives everybody a chance to be part of it,” she said, noting that Democratic voter registration is soaring in many states.
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[MY COMMENT: That's putting a Smiley Face on this Democratic Party real crisis.]
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In Pennsylvania, Democrats have registered a staggering 161,000 new voters since last fall, pushing their numbers over 4 million for the first time. In Oregon, nearly 10,000 voters have refiled as Democrats in the last seven weeks.
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Waak added, however: “The concern I have is the kind of level of attack that has come up” between Obama and Clinton. “I don’t think that is good for the party.”
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[MY COMMENT: Gosh, no kidding?!]
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Superdelegates will have to choose this summer, Waak said, and it will be easy if Obama can significantly increase his lead in delegates, popular votes and states won. On the other hand, she said, “the narrower the margin and the less conclusive it is, the harder it becomes.”
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[MY COMMENT: Hillary won't quit, period. She has nothing to lose and everything to possibly gain by staying in the race. Which means the defacto Party Bosses, aka "Superdelegates", will have to choose between Hussein Obama and Rodham Clinton. *The costs and benefits will have to be weighed.
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Nominating Hillary would likely crack the Party along racial lines-a huge, potentially fatal cost for what benefit? Is she more likely than Hussein Obama to beat McCain? I think they'll conclude correctly that she's much less likely to beat McCain.]

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I think they will ultimately choose to nominate Hussein Obama, as alienating the black Democratic base by nominating Hillary when she’s been beaten by Hussein Obama would be a long term party catastrophe. It’d be a far worse blow than giving the nomination to Obama who will very probably lose the election to McCain by Hussein Obama. That would still leave an intact party base.

DavePa on March 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Bill won’t be the one to tell Her…he doesn’t want the treatment Ray Liotta got in Hannibal, with a very sharp ashtray. Actually, this is the main reason BJ doesn’t live with Shelob: it’s too dangerous.

Christine on March 30, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Everyone’s been telling her to quit. She ain’t listening.

That’s because she’s got the Carville/Begala Kabbalah whispering “This Is Your ENTITLEMENT! This is Your DESTINY!” in her ear all the time.

pilamaye on March 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Cher allah,
May I please put in a personal request that that photo of Hillary be retired?

Not that it does not accomplish its mission, but it has BDTD!

Thanking you in advance.

vanderleun on March 30, 2008 at 10:07 PM

I’ll bet home insurance rates in Denver near the convention center are spiking.

BTW, I’m new to Hot Air, though a former fan of the Captain. Nice to meet everybody.

bville 13027 on March 30, 2008 at 10:46 PM