Obama: I would have quit the church if Wright had stayed and not apologized
posted at 9:24 am on March 28, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I’m not sure why this is news. He said essentially the same thing to Major Garrett on the night of a thousand interviews after the Wright thing first went nuclear.
GARRETT: So, quick yes or no. If had you heard [the “controversial” sermons] in person you would have quit?
OBAMA: If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit. I mean, obviously, understand that — understand that, you know, this is somebody who is like an uncle. If you have — to me. He’s somebody who helped me find Christ. And somebody who always talked to me in very powerful ways about relationship to God and our obligations to the poor.
If somebody makes a mistake, then obviously, you recognize — I make mistakes. We all make mistakes. If I thought that that was the repeated tenor of the church, then I wouldn’t feel comfortable there.
Note the emphasis on “repeated.” He’s suggesting that he would have stayed if Wright had repented and promised to lay off that rhetoric in the future, which jibes with the money quote from the “View” today that’s being buzzed about. Quote:
“Had the reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn’t have felt comfortable staying at the church,” Obama said Thursday during a taping of the ABC talk show, “The View.”
Tom Maguire thinks Obama’s deceitfully trying to suggest here that Wright has apologized when of course he hasn’t. I don’t read it that way at all. I think he’s speaking purely hypothetically, if inartfully: If Wright was still pastor of the church and if he refused to apologize for the sermons, then Obama would have to quit. Since he’s not still pastor, there’s no need to quit irrespective of whether Wright has apologized or not.
But judge for yourself. Click the image to watch; it’s the second clip from the left at the bottom. Your exit questions: If, as Karl reminds us, Obama could no sooner disown Wright than disown the black community, how come he seems pretty willing to disown him (albeit conditionally) here? If “Middleclassness” is repugnant to the “Black Value System,” what’s Wright doing moving into a 10,000 sq. ft. house? And if Obama’s not okay with racial bomb-throwing from the pulpit, why is he weeping at the beauty of a sermon about “white folks’ greed run[ning] a world in need”?
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Yeah, wright.
Tony737 on March 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Because of my judgment. And because I happened not to be there every time he said something hateful and/or looney. Man, if only I had some inkling of this over the 20 years I’ve spent there, I would have acted immediately.
Pablo on March 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Um, sure Barack. I believe you.
Not.
rbj on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
That skips right over the middle class, I think. But Rev. Jerry is still oppressed, and don’t you forget it.
Pablo on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
So I’m supposed to believe that that asshole wasn’t pushed out due to Barry’s campaign?
Please.
If the vids hadn’t gotten out, he’d still be there.
benrand on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
It’s up to your knees, Senator.
mymanpotsandpans on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Tru dat, playa. Ya beat me to it, my nizzie.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM
I still don’t get this. If a white guy said similar things about black people from the pulpit…it’d be inexcusable. But it’s not when the same rhetoric comes from a black guy?
Won’t accept that.
Bob's Kid on March 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM
OK. Who is ahead today on the Lie-O-Meter? Barack or Hillary?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Boosting his cred by stopping by to see the cackling hens on The View.
Such courage.
Can we expect dancing or tap dancing?
fogw on March 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Obama and Wright will eventually say whatever they (together) decide needs to be said to restore his electibility. But not without waiting to feel the pressure for it.
petefrt on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
“Twenty years of Wright’s hatred was bad enough, but twenty years & one month would be the straw that broke the camel’s back!
(No offense intended to you Muslims about the camel reference)”
–BO
jgapinoy on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
He’s somebody who helped me find Christ.
Really? And what Christ would THAT be? The one that teaches you that it’s better to be poor like the rest of ‘your people’ than it is to better yourself, educate yourself, work hard and get out of the ghetto while he moves into a mansion?
Or the one that teaches you that another race is ‘greeeeeeedah!’ and is holding you down?
Funny, I don’t seem to remember the Christ that I know saying any of these things? Did he ever teach you to love your fellow man unconditionally? To forgive? To be humble? If not, then he’s not leading you to Christ, he’s leading you to a false prophet and he’s using the Lord’s Name in vain.
Tony737 on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Hey, if making more tha $75,000 a year qualifies a person as “rich” under Obama’s tax plan, then obviously someone who can afford to buy or maintain a 10,000 sq. foot house is mega-rich, not middle class.
Uh, how about because Obama’s a lying, hypocritical phony?
AZCoyote on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
This guy would be a disaster in the White House.
NeighborhoodCatLady on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Nothing like a warm steaming pile to help you get cozy during an early spring snowstorm.
Little Boomer on March 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM
“If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit only if you caught me.”
drjohn on March 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM
Complete Horse Hockey.
You go to a church because you agree with the philosophy of the church. Dr. J. Dudley Wright’s philosophy is that the US is a criminal country.
Obama knew that and agreed or agrees with it.
Either that or he has been brain dead for years and does not have the powers of observation needed to be POTUS.
EJDolbow on March 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM
The Christ who gets you a 10,000 sqaure foot house.
Can I get an AMEN?
drjohn on March 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM
I agree with Tom McGuire’s take: Obama was implying that Wright apologized for his comments. The statement, though, has built-in ambiguity by design. “Inartful” is definitely not a term I’d use to describe Obama’s speaking skills.
Nichevo on March 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM
This week’s previously scheduled sermon, prior to Wright’s disappearance,
“Jesus Loves ……. a Black Man Who Thinks Whitey Sucks”
Can I get an Amen?
fogw on March 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Oh yes, The Obama, I believe you. BTW, if anyone believes that, [fill in own joke here]
Branch Rickey on March 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM
“We didn’t attend the first Sundays of months, because that was when Rev. Wright preached his racist, anti-American conspiracy theory sermons when he would hump the pulpit while screaming ‘ridin’ dirty’ and all.”
Akzed on March 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM
It’s repugnant for everyone else naturally.
Spirit of 1776 on March 28, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Glimpse into the future of President Obama….
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM
New article questions whether Obama is a closet Muslim:
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
blue13326 on March 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Why do I always think “liar, liar, pants of fire” when I see this guy speak anymore?
Hope, Change, Yes We Can….Not.
dish on March 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Either he’s dense or he thinks we are.
“After 20 years, it just clicked”
Asher on March 28, 2008 at 9:47 AM
heh, “on” fire, but it still works…
dish on March 28, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Wait…is there more?
Because I didn’t hear him say he would have “quit.” I heard him say he “wouldn’t have felt comfortable staying…”
So it all depends on what the definition of “comfortable” is.
Typhoon on March 28, 2008 at 9:49 AM
By focusing on Wright, instead of on Trinity United Church of Christ, Obama is evading the core issue, which is the fact that his church, Wright or no Wright, practices Black Liberation Theology. From their website:
The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.
Some words, just words, from Dr. James Cone:
Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.
Buy Danish on March 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM
I didn’t realize that Christ was hiding…
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on March 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM
someone should ask Obama his views on Malcom X, Nation of Islam, etc.
jp on March 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM
More horseshit from this guy.
Sean68 on March 28, 2008 at 9:54 AM
His church accepts Muslim parishoners I understand. Is it a Sunni or Shiite church?
JiangxiDad on March 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I don’t know if there are any Howard Stern fans here, but Stern has ripped Obama and that so-called pastor of his two new bungholes. And his idiot staff is in love with Obama.
Sean68 on March 28, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Obama said Rev. Wright brought him to Jesus Christ. Sort of ironic when you consider that “Jesus Christ” are probably the first words out of Obama’s mouth when he hears the Reverand’s latest sound bites on the evening news.
repvoter on March 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Exactly. Wright isn’t the problem, he is only a symptom. If Barry wants to do the full monte he needs to repudiate the church and BLT, including Moss et al. He’s slyly diverting the issue.
a capella on March 28, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Weasel! I am so tired of being lied to straight to my face.
ronsfi on March 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM
He remembers leaving Trinity under sniper fire and running to his car with his head down…
d1carter on March 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Looks like Barry is starting to think ahead to the general election and doesn’t like what he sees. Too late Barry. You had to fight for the black vote by joining that damned church in the first place. You didn’t think you could fight for the rest of our votes as well. It would take a miracle to get everyone to believe you’re genuine. You didn’t start to believe your own crap, did you???
JiangxiDad on March 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM
So I guess Hillary better worry about Obame, eh? That he’s just as good at lying as she is? Now that couldn’t be!!!! Could it?
Vntnrse on March 28, 2008 at 10:10 AM
er….OBAMA that is….
Vntnrse on March 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Okay. So let’s take that to task. Can somebody dredge up some of the sermons of Wright’s successor, who is the present incumbent of the church to which Obama still claims attendance? Let’s see if he fits the same mold and see if Obama quits over statements made by somebody who isn’t “like an uncle to [him].”
Beo on March 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
That’s more likely to be true than Hillary’s story was.
Quisp on March 28, 2008 at 10:12 AM
This steaming pile isn’t for us, it’s for his (p)sycophants.
baldilocks on March 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM
AMEN!
Jeremiah Wright is just one example of why Obama is too inexperienced to be President. Seasoned politicians know to disassociate themselves from racists before announcing for office. Obama actually had this yahoo scheduled to speak at his official announcement until the staffers convinced him that it wouldn’t be the best of ideas.
highhopes on March 28, 2008 at 10:14 AM
The Easter sermon was about public lynching in the media. Black church, lynching in the title……. Yeah, the new guy is so much more reasonable than the retiring racist.
highhopes on March 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM
The outrageousness of this “church” was evident if one would have just looked at their website.
I would not call this building a church. These are not Jesus’ teachings here. Remember “Love your neighbor as yourself”? Was that the message being taught?
Obama has NO way out, but those that are still supporting him are even more foolish.
Conservatives R Us on March 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Yeah I belive in the Easter bunny and Santa Claus too!!!
thmcbb on March 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM
AP,
Thanks for the link, per usual. Obvs did not have the video to watch in context, but I address the point you raise in an update at Protein Wisdom now.
Karl on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Welcome to America. Where black racism is accepted, spin(ed) and excused and ‘white racism’ is rebuked, rejected and denounced.
Here is an example.
wise_man on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Obama doesn’t have to answer questions that all other candidates have to endure. He has enablers like Charlie Gibson at ABC News. Last night, Gibson did an “interview” with Obama that was so effusive and lavish in its praise for Obama that even Obama seemed a little uncomfortable with Gibson’s sycophancy. Gibson announced at the beginning of the interview that “You have given an extraordinary speech”… Obama agreed that his speech was historic. Gibson then asked a series of questions that could have been written by the Obama staff, although I doubt that the questions from the Obama campaign staff would have been as fawning. Gibson kept fawning all over Obama so much that one could notice Obama becoming just a tad uncomfortable with sitting so close to Obama. Obama might have been thinking: “Does this guy have a crush on me?”
Larraby on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Is there really a possibility this putz could be our next President?
No. Seriously. Really?
Professor Blather on March 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Hogwash!
He listened to Wright for 20 years as a preacher and a personal consultant. Only a brain impaired cretin would believe that Obama didn’t know what was in the heart and mind of this vile, racist thug. This is simple . . . he’s lying in an attempt to save his butt. Believe him at your own peril.
rplat on March 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM
What good does it do to quit the church if you continue to maintain a close personal friendship with the hate monger?
TooTall on March 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM
The problem with lieing is that each lie has to be covered with another and so on. He lied about not knowing what his pastor said and now he’s lieing about quiting.
orlandocajun on March 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM
If Wright left, why is it that he and his daughter still publish the “church” newsletter? Based on what I heard on the Don & Roma show this morning, Wright has a piece in his current newsletter about Italians. He called them a bunch of garlic noses.
BobK on March 28, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Who woulda thunk it? The Messiah is capable of lying. Isn’t Satan the “father of all lies”? There’s a disconnect, I think, “Satan=Messiah”. Don’t mind me, still on my first cup. My two cents……………..
adamsmith on March 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM
What.
The.
F**k ????
Um.
Uh.
Wow.
And this is not on every cable news channel … why, exactly?
THIS is our future messianic President’s church??????
THIS could be my future commander-in-chief’s church?????
Ho. Ly. Kee. Rap.
I think I just became a fervent McCain supporter.
Professor Blather on March 28, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Funny how Hillary gets plastered (rightly so) for lying. Yet Obama can tell whoppers left and right, and his fawning press say we have to take him at his word.
Check all that apply:
Racist
Liar
Socialist
Plagiarist
Sugar Land on March 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Awesome. Still laughing!
Branch Rickey on March 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Somewhere…I’ve also heard…
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
So much for what the “Uniter-on-Whitey’s-Tab” has learned from his anti-American racist Pastor….
Lockstein13 on March 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM
The Messiah must have seen some bad internal polls. Too many people saying that they would not have gone to the church. Funny how after we as Americans form a consensus and politicans do their polls they adopt a position that reflects that consensus, amazing.
You are fooling only those that want to be fooled…
Theworldisnotenough on March 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Did Barry have to answer any questions pertaining to his church’s black value system?
BVS of Barry’s church
benrand on March 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM
How on earth is this man even close to being president? He IS Bill Clinton only thinner.
TroubledMonkey on March 28, 2008 at 10:31 AM
There are people who still watch network news? Are you insane or are you in a forced labor camp?
Branch Rickey on March 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Hi Professor! Amazing isn’t it! I can’t imagine what it would be like to have Obama as your Commander in Chief. Awestruck kudos to you, by the way.
Malcolm X, first made the phrase chickens coming home to roost famous, when he used it in response to the assassination of J.F.K.
The fact that Wright used that phrase in one of the sermons Obama never heard is just a bizarre coincidence.
Buy Danish on March 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Um, Barry, the Rev. Dr. DIDN’T APOLOGIZE.
Is he really this dense or just a lying sack of crap with liberals so much into the swoon that they can’t decipher fiction from reality…
Not that a liberal could do that to being with, but still…
benrand on March 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM
wright doesn’t prove barry is unseasoned, he is more proof (his wifes statements, his writings, etc.) that barry is a racist, and a confused one at that. Don’t fall for the out that has been created by the media that somehow his 20 year activity in this church was just a nisguided political move, just a political or strategic mistake. barry listened to this guys tapes in college before he moved to Chicago and then he sought out wright when he got there. barry is corrupt, a racist, a fascist and a liar.
peacenprosperity on March 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM
What Obama would have done with Wright is immaterial now. The more important thing to focus on is the actions of Trinity’s new pastor, Rev. Moss, who’s already come up with at least one controversial sermon.
Rev. Moss is not part of the generation that had to deal with pre-Civil Rights Act/Voting Rights Act discrimination, so Obama’s excuse for Rev. Wright, that he’s a product of his times, doesn’t wash. And anything that’s been said or will be said of a highly charged nature over the next 30 weeks makes Obama’s continued membership at Trinity United more than just a hypothetical “I would have quit if he had stayed on.” If Rev. Moss follows the path of Rev. Wright, then it’s on Barak’s shoulders to decide whether or not he plans to continue being part of the church.
jon1979 on March 28, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Here is the Reverend Otis Moss III, Wright’s successor, in an NPR interview which followed Obamas Big B.S. speech on race.
Note how he uses the term “re-mix”, and how he does not repudiate Wright’s statements about AIDS and so forth, but instead rationalizes why this thinking persists.
CU all L8R…
Buy Danish on March 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Oh, I have already. And you can be sure that his supporters have as well, and they will stick with him through anything.
Now that sounds like something that could have come strait out of the Koran.
4shoes on March 28, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Yep, that sums it up nicely for me.
4shoes on March 28, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Does anyone else notice the lighter, circular halo that he is placed in front of?
“I’m too sexy for my church, too sexy for my church, too sexy for my church, too sexy”.
Black racist, ninth cousin to Brad Pitt? Huh?? Is this holistic genealogy, or did Rev Wright tell him that?
Hening on March 28, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Things are still the same. He’s not quit that church, and the new pastor has the identical politics — he’s just not as well known. Obama gets a few months, but eventually the new pastor will do him in.
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s talking points are still posted, the Black Value System is still front and center, and Rev. Wright is still pastor, at tucc.org. Maybe the webmaster hasn’t gotten the memo.
unclesmrgol on March 28, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Has Barry left that church?
I don’t think he has.
Add brazen to the list of Barry’s personality traits.
benrand on March 28, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Puh-lease. Will somebody challenge this lying sack on this? In twenty years he claims he never heard a racist diatribe? And what airhead actually believes that? Especially in light of excerpts from Hussein’s book that read like Wright wrote them?
dogsoldier on March 28, 2008 at 11:11 AM
You know, it pains me to say this, but at this point I’d rather see the Clintons back in the White House, rather than this guy and his posse.
bofh on March 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Look at this to find out where he really is. Not sure we can really know!
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
wepeople on March 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Hussein knows that Wright is not going away. Wait until the general election…
saved on March 28, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Obama’s Background (updated):
Closest People in His Life (”These people are a part of me”):
Wife, Michele: “Really proud of my country for first time in my adult life” (at age 44)
Pastor, Rev. Wright: God Dxxx America, US of KKKA (”I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother “)
Mom: Atheist, Communist
Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim
Brother, Roy (now Abongo): devout Muslim “He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.” the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture ”
Step dad: foreign, devout Muslim
Grandma: “on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe”
Cousin Odinga: involved in killings of hundreds in Kenya after saying his election was “stolen”. Plus signed pledge to, within 6 months, re-write the Constitution to implement Sharia law.
Other:
Education: 2 years in a Muslim school, the rest in elite private schools
Church: Racist, Black Separatist
Patriotism: Refuses to wear flag pin, randomly takes hand to heart during Anthem, Declaration of Independence is “stained by this nation’s original sin of slavery”
Drug Preference: Marijuana, liquor and coke “Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow ”
Music Preference: The Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”
Photo Preference: Somali Muslim garb (think Blackhawk Down)
Boyhood Memories:In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada (the first 5 lines of the Adhan), the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim.
faraway on March 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Obama is a lying racist who will do anything to get elected.
katieanne on March 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Oh yeh…I like, totally, believe…Dude.
franksalterego on March 28, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I would have won the Ms World contest, if only I would have entered it when I was younger and way more beautiful…we’ll never know now…
Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Obamessiah and Cankles… Two sides of the same coin:
“If I knew then, what I know now….”
The question is, how do we reason with anyone who is stupid enough to believe this?
franksalterego on March 28, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Still waiting for Obama to join in the great dialog on race. So far we’ve only got monologue.
snaggletoothie on March 28, 2008 at 12:11 PM
AP, please don’t say “money quote”.
treyevans on March 28, 2008 at 12:34 PM
I am so tired of this guy already. Four years of him in the White House would be unbearable. Can you imagine the long tedious, preachy speeches he would subject us to? Big I am, know it all going to “educate” the people, especially the White people. Bleah!
UnEasyRider on March 28, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Not to mention that Aunt Esther he has for a loudmouthed angry wife.
It would be like a humanities class at the University of your choice…stupid and completely unnecessary.
benrand on March 28, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Three Exit Questions! Woohoo!
1. (disown here?) Because Obama’s a lying POS?
2. (10,000 of middleclassness?) Because Wright’s a hypocrite, a race hustler, a God-scam artist, and a lying POS?
3. (pulpit bombs and weeping?) Uh…uh…he’s a typical, self-serving politician, and a lying POS?!
Ding, ding, ding, ding!
What do I win?!em>
PS, AP - I was one of many who (I assume) sent the link on this story, and it seems much more directly full of shit in the context of all that he has said since the meltdown, what with disowning and all.
Jaibones on March 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM
sorry about the bold
Jaibones on March 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Ms. World? That’s for losers Entelechy.
Consider yourself our Ms. Universe.
fogw on March 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Depends. Is Mike Huckabee attending with him?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM
You kill me Branch. Keep up the good work!
JiangxiDad on March 28, 2008 at 1:32 PM
You’re too kind fogw. I was just trying to make the point in Obama’s futile attempt to annul reality, no matter what my (fictitious) contest. Best regards to you and yours, especially the most special ones,
Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 1:50 PM
I think some may have said it above, but briefly: what he “would have done” means squat. What he did for 20 years is what counts; hold him responsible over and over for the action he chose to follow - basically over his entire adult life.
Lockstein13 on March 28, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Can someone let me know when Obama finally picks a position on the issue with his pastor…and sticks with it?!?
He’s starting to sound like John Kerry:
“I was for my pastor (for 20 years) before I was against him. Next week I might be for him again.”
Planet Boulder on March 28, 2008 at 2:26 PM
If you are wondering why TUCoC accepts Muslim parishioners, it probably has a lot to do with the fact that James Cone, it was the voice of Malcolm X that first made James Cone question his theology.
Buy Danish on March 28, 2008 at 2:31 PM
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