Obama: I Like Taxes, Except When I Don’t
posted at 8:29 am on March 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
The Los Angeles Times notes the love affair between Barack Obama and taxes continues unabated. In an interview with CNBC in New York last night, Obama promised to eliminate the Bush tax cuts and hike taxes on those making as little as $75,000 per year. When challenged about raising taxes during an economic slowdown, he almost immediately backpedaled:
Illinois Sen. Barack Obama went after the “We’re not paying enough taxes to the government” vote today during a television interview in New York.
First, he said the Bush tax cuts ought to die. He likes that top marginal rate of 39%. Although the non-partisan National Journal recently declared him the most liberal of the 100 senators, Obama denied being a “wild-eyed liberal,” which wasn’t what the Journal called him, but it sounds good on TV where everything moves by so quickly.
Maria Bartiromo on CNBC’s “Closing Bell” asked, “Who should pay more and who should pay less?” Predictably, the politician chose to talk about who would benefit from his higher tax plan, not who would get socked the hardest. But from his answers it sounds like the “wealthy” in his mind are those making more than $75,000.
“I would not increase taxes for middle class Americans and in fact I want to…. provide a tax cut for people who are making $75,000 a year or less,” he said. “For those folks, I want an offset on the payroll tax that would be worth as much as $1,000 for a family.
Bartiromo asked him why he thinks raising taxes in a slowing economy would be a good thing. After all, the Democrats plan to argue economics as the biggest issue this fall, blaming the Bush administration policies for a housing crisis that has investors already pulling back to safety positions. Hiking taxes in that environment would shrink investment capital even further, creating more momentum for recession. What was Obama’s response?
“Well, look,” said Obama, “there’s no doubt that anything I do is going to be premised on what the economic situation is when I take office.”
Well, no doubt, but that doesn’t address the disconnect between Democratic rhetoric on the economy and Obama’s plan to raise taxes. They predict that the current economic policies will lead to recession. In fact, Paul Begala giggled when he called John McCain a cross between George Bush and Herbert Hoover on CNN Wednesday evening, just before my own appearance on Election Center. If that’s the case, shouldn’t Obama offer plans to deal with the recession he and his party insists will come, rather than offer the equivalent of Smoot-Hawley plans that will exacerbate it?
Obama wants it both ways. He wants the Left to believe that he will start pulling more money out of the economy for a big slate of government programs, while he wants the middle class to believe that all of these programs won’t cost them anything — and meanwhile, his options remain “open”. It sounds more like “I’m making this up as I go along.”









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Obama’s liberal naivete scares the crap out of me. His supporters’ even greater naivete makes it hard for me to sleep at night.
aero on March 28, 2008 at 8:41 AM
That’s exactly what he’s doing.
Has America ever seriously considered a Presidential candidate who was more manifestly unqualified for the office?
cool breeze on March 28, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Eisenhower asked for a one armed economist to help him out…when asked why a one armed, he remarked “so they can never say, on the other hand”.
Barack needs to be dis-armed…
right2bright on March 28, 2008 at 8:45 AM
It’s astonishing to me that Obama isn’t running a single issue campaign — call it the Doug Kmiec approach. The thought that he will attempt to use a sound bite about McCain not being an economic expert is suicide for Obambi — McCain is clearly superior to Obambi on economic issues, a spending hawk and fiscal conservative vs. a wild-eyed liberal tax and spender.
There is one thing and only one thing that gives Obambi any kind of leg up, and that is blanket opposition to the war in Iraq, a turn and run plank in his platform. Anything short of that – like the same safe, timely, phased withdrawal that McCain will propose gives him bupkis.
Jaibones on March 28, 2008 at 8:48 AM
This guy is one boneheaded move after another.
TexasDan on March 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM
This guy is absolutely inept and appears to have the intellectual depth of a snail. People had better get excited about the Republican candidate because if this dolt ends up in the White House the Republic is lost.
rplat on March 28, 2008 at 8:51 AM
Hussein is insane.
saved on March 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM
Yes but we can afford to tax the wealthy; we don’t need individuals with more “investment capital” because we’ve got corporate bailouts of the financial sector already pumping free cash into the system.
What, your financial institution is going under? Here’s 30 billion dollars!
e-pirate on March 28, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Look at the girls in the picture, they look like they’re at a Beatles’ concert. “EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee!!!!!” But do they have ANY clue whatsoever what that guy’ll do to this country?
Tony737 on March 28, 2008 at 9:14 AM
The government doesn’t need more tax money to provide services. They need to stop wasting the funds they receive now. NO NEW TAXES, STOP WASTEFUL SPENDING. Why is that so difficult to get?
ctmom on March 28, 2008 at 9:15 AM
No worries, mate. This has been set up for McCain all along. One dem candidate is a joke, and scary as hell, the other is one of the most hated and obviously evil politians in the country. And out of all our republican candidates, we voted McCain as our guy? Um, no. This was/is tailor-made for him, with the goal of pulling the entire Republican party sharply to the left, and the rest of the country with it.
If someone else has an explanation that makes more sense, bring it on. Please.
shibumiglass on March 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM
I shudder to think about what his plans for Social Security & Medicaid/Medicare are.
More taxes! More regulation! More government!
rbj on March 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Typical liberal:
‘Trust ME, because you’re too stupid to understand.’
TinMan13 on March 28, 2008 at 9:22 AM
“Obama wants it both ways.”
A rich man and a poor man
A black mad and a white man
A gentle disciple tutored by racist mentor
A Harvard grad who finds life a struggle
A man of words who says very little
Democrats Rejoice!
For he is The One.
fogw on March 28, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Bartiromo asked him why he thinks raising taxes in a slowing economy would be a good thing.
What was Obama’s response?
“Well, look, there’s no doubt that anything I do is going to be premised on what the economic situation is when I take office.”
In other words, ‘I have no idea what you’re talking about and I can’t answer that question ’cause I don’t know anything about how the economy functions, and if I try to answer you, I’ll look like an idiot and nobody will vote for me.’
Tony737 on March 28, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Its worked out that way, but pre-planned?? By whom? The Republicans couldn’t choose a conservative candidate because of the quality of the field. McCain won somewhat by default, (mixed with plenty of tenacity) but not design.
JiangxiDad on March 28, 2008 at 9:29 AM
No wonder John Kerry endorsed him.
He was for the taxes before he was against the taxes.
Keep flapping your gums, Barry. There aren’t as many Obamicans as you think.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
He’s a very steely eyes liberal..
that’s what scares me..
howard dean.. Muchkin Dennis Kooksinich.. they are the wild eyed liberals..
DaveC on March 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
steely eyed.. not eyes..
DaveC on March 28, 2008 at 9:31 AM
And I shudder at what Mr. “McAmenesty”, “New World Order”, “Check with our new OverLords in the EU” McCain is going to do to this country. We are so very screwed.
rgranger on March 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM
but, boy, he sure can deliver a good speech.. can’t remember any substance afterward but I believe he can support what I hope for in a candidate that can unify..
/sarc off
DaveC on March 28, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Typhoon on March 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Let’s see – a few days ago, an official Obama campaign spokesman excused the Obama’s small contributions to charity by claiming that they “gave what they could afford”, even though going back to 2000, they were making about $250,000 a year. So, in the Obama home, it’s tough getting by on a quarter million per year, but people making LESS are supposed to pay MORE in taxes? And some want to put this man in charge of the economy?
KC on March 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM
Typhoon on March 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I don’t know about you, but I’ve never worked for a poor man.
Akzed on March 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM
Gee, he’s gonna let the middle class keep a whole extra thousand bucks. How benevolent of him.
CP on March 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM
All these idjits who support sticking it to the rich don’t seem to realize that they’re “rich” according to Obama and co. And others are one promotion away from it. Foolish, foolish, foolish.
aero on March 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM
“I was for tax increases before I was against them.”
jgapinoy on March 28, 2008 at 10:01 AM
This guys likability factor is on a downward trajectory.
ronsfi on March 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Barack Obama is a typical tax and spend Democrat.
TooTall on March 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Democrats do not understand the relationship between taxes and the economy. They also are ignorant of simple math.
The Bush tax cuts are routinely demonized b/c of the reduction in capital gains. The tax cuts also reduced the marriage tax penalty; lowered the bottom tax rate from 15% to 10%, and increased the child tax credit to $1,000 per child under 17 (which, BTW, begins to phase out for couples earning $110,000 or singles earning $75,000).
The IRC began as a few hundred pages…it is now over 10,000 pages long!
Tax rates are progressive, and I believe they should be proportionate. With a flat tax, the country could move away from the class warfare, and (God willing) I wouldn’t have to listen to brain-washed Democrats. Moreover, Democrats are always saying they approve of tax cuts for the middle class, but where’s the beef?
The last Democrat to make a major tax cut was JFK in 1960!! WTF?!?
budorob on March 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I always find this so interesting…
The national economy is, essentially, made up of those who buy and sell on a daily basis–every American man, woman, and child. It’s not just Wall St., bankers, or business owners.
And in a downturn, what this economy needs is more money (and more freedom) to do that buying, selling, investing, etc.
Yet what Obama is saying is this: “I want to help our economy by taking money out of the economy.” Translate: “I want to help the American people by taking money away from the American people.” 310 million people get less because 535 politicians know how to spend it better.
And this man is lauded as a brilliant mind? Wise up folks.
Pope Linus on March 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Huh? thats it? oh hell.. Obama gonna throw a bunch of people under the bus.
Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 10:32 AM
All you need to do is look at today’s Germany.
As a “poor person”, you have the “right” (under the social welfare system there) to – among many other things – a refrigerator and television (i.e. paid for by the state).
Only one detail: the top tax bracket starts at 70,000 Euros.
No way out of that mess. Best way is to stay out of it from the begiinning.
Lockstein13 on March 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Here’s a trusim — The furthest left viable candidate during any presidential primary season never has to do anything more than get by on a few key buzz words to appease both the activists within the Democratic Party and a great swatch of the big media outlet reporters.
Obama didn’t have an answer set to go to Bartiromo’s question because he hadn’t needed one until then, because the question never had been asked. Just throw out the proper buzz words about taxing the rich (or national health care, or global warming credits, or whatever else is taken as a social/cultural panacea on the left) and never get into the details of how that might adversely affect the current economy, because the reporters are too infatuated with you to care to ask how this might work during an economic slowdown. Meanwhile, the party activists know and care as much about maintaining a market economy as they do running a NASCAR pit crew at Daytona, so they’re either not paying attention to the question, or think the question is illegitimate to even ask.
It would be nice to think others in the media would follow-up on Barak’s muddled answer to Maria’s question, especially since NBC is her employer. But sadly, all this means is that, along with Fox News, CNBC will be another channel Obama will be dodging interviews with for the foreseeable future.
jon1979 on March 28, 2008 at 11:02 AM
The Obamassiah hasn’t found an issue yet that he can’t straddel. Yep, a real LEADER!
GarandFan on March 28, 2008 at 11:20 AM
My explanation is that Bush has so damaged the repblican brand, the party has to move to the left to be competitive. Retrenchment is the best option for conservatives, as we can hopefully keep radicals off the high court, at least slow down gov’t spending, and maybe cause enough ruckus to prevent a blanket amnesty. Think of this a a ‘rebuilding year’.
Think_b4_speaking on March 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Typical politician.
Johan Klaus on March 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM
So, Barak Obama’s economic plan is:
- Tax the snot out of everybody making more than $75,000/year.
- Index the minimum wage to the Consumer Price Index.
Wow. He obviously didn’t pay attention in Economics 101 did he? The Obama years will make the Carter years look like rampant economic growth!
mojojojo on March 28, 2008 at 12:26 PM
The essence of Obama, or any liberal. Bottle and sell it! Good luck. The fools will buy it, the rest will vote against it. The tally will be on the second Wednesday, following the second Tuesday in Nov., this round in 2008.
Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Michelle Obama whined that she couldn’t afford to buy fresh fruit for her fatty watty daughters, but they want to raise income and capital gains taxes?
They must have something stored away in the Cayman Islands or a Swiss Bank account.
Buy Danish on March 28, 2008 at 3:01 PM
I heard an actual Obama radio commercial today. It was running on a PA radio station during Sean Hannity’s show. By the way, Sean’s show runs on this particular station immediately after Rush Limbaugh’s 3 hour show. So this station is an all day conservative listener magnet.
The commercial is a series of soundbites including things like, “We’ll end this war.”, “We’ll change things for the better.”, etc.
One line in particular really stuck with me. Referring to ExxonMobile specifically, Obama says, “We’ll penalize companies making windfall profits.” No lie. No joke. That is the exact word for word statement in the commercial.
Who’s going to declare exactly what a “windfall” profit is? I don’t think anybody is really qualified to be that judge. So the guy is effectively advocating penalizing profitable companies. I guess the dividends that get paid out to all the shareholders of that profitable company, including any retirees on fixed incomes who depend on those dividends for their survival, don’t matter in Obama’s grand scheme.
I don’t know which was more stupid and the better indicator of his overall lack of economic understanding. The statements in the commercial or the fact that he chose to waste so much of his own money advertising them on a station and during programs where they would be least effective.
SeLFMaDE on March 28, 2008 at 5:27 PM
heh…
TheCulturalist on March 28, 2008 at 7:00 PM