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Kurt Westergaard, the cartoonist of one of the Jyllands-Posten cartoons of Muhammed, has expressed concerns because his cartoon is used in the film without his permission, a violation of copyright.[92] The Danish Union of Journalists has said it will file a lawsuit on Westergaard’s behalf as he is still in hiding from the death threats against him.

LiveLeak is not to blame.

I’m glad LiveLeak hosted the video (albeit for a very short period of time) but LiveLeak is not blameless. LiveLeak, YouTube and other western video hosting services have continued to host terrorist/pro jihadi/snuff films on their networks and have resisted calls for their removal.

In a small way, LiveLeak has helped foster an environment in which there is a supply and demand for the most vile videos. To be sure, a market exists outside the control of LiveLeak, but they have opted to participate.

How ironic that they have painted themselves into a corner by which they facilitate the propaganda interests of the very people that threaten them. LiveLeak and YouTube provide these propaganda services under the very cause of free speech but deny the same rights to those who wish to counter the Islamist’s illiberal message.

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Give LiveLeak credit for hosting it in the first place, even if just for a few hours.

For LiveLeak to be criticized for lack of guts is ludicrous.

I like to poke a thumb in the eye of the Islamabombers as much as the next guy, but getting this video out was the goal, and that goal was accomplished. It is time for them to remove their thumb and move on.

When I pointed out that bin Laden was a millionaire, Zawahiri an MD, etc. he said they were born wealthy so it didn’t count. He means the average joe, man on the Arab Street won’t be radical if we give enough money. Where this money is going to come from if not generated by good old fashioned capitalism, he doesn’t seem to know.

I’d be willing to be the libs at LiveLeak that don’t see a problem with jihadi videos that are still on their server right now agree with that POV. No matter what they do, it’s our fault, always, always our fault.

The folks at LiveLeak are reaping what they’ve sewn.

On a bigger point, Europe apparently has neither the will or capacity to defend fundamental freedoms which have been the cornerstone of western civilization.

When you publish their hate and stifle the response, for whatever reason, you’re working for THEM.

Delete the propaganda, and we’re good.

Then we just have to deal with the terrorist threats to everyone else, and the hateful radical “Islamist” culture behind it.

Most of the spittle-flecking in the responses to LiveLeak is more properly directed at the terrorists themselves, and at the half-measures taken against them by Western authorities. People are impatient by nature, especially when there’s a serious threat that isn’t (seen as) being dealt with.

Well, that was a break and a half …..

I only had a few minutes a day that I could check UNCLAS email and I still have a fair bit of catch-up to do. Reading through the comment, it seems everyone had plenty to keep themselves busy and the steam u…..

Evasive liberal touch to that sentence.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV2uITx6QCs[/url]

9-11/al-Qaeda was all the Jews fault, again. Lovely. But say anything about Islam? Hide that video the same way they used to for Scientology before the uproar became too great.

right2bright on March 28, 2008 at 7:18 PM
I re-enlisted. I decided to do something about it!
What are you doing?
upinak on March 28, 2008 at 7:24 PM

right2bright
I have served, I have fought and was wounded….. I’ll call anyone I deem deserving gutless. Yes, I’m being uncaring, immoral or whatever you wish to call me, but I don’t particularly care at this juncture in history.

MNDavenotPC on March 28, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Well let me know if I can re-enlist at 61 years old…I doubt that they will let me, but thanks for the offer.
upinak, instead I run a couple of businesses and I am sure the Republican party appreciates my participation…and my service.
MNDave, no one said you can’t call someone gutless, just like I can call someone gutless who sits behind a keyboard and calls others gutless…when they have not walked in their shoes. So you think the sacrifice of your family is worth showing a video? Good for you, I think LiveLeak did what they needed, got it out, now time to retreat and fight another day. They won the battle, and they aren’t losing the war.
And BTW, you aren’t the only one who has served and lost something valuable, some have lost more then you…some just go about there business because they know that serving in the military is not the only (though honorable for some) way to serve your country. Kerry served and has three purple hearts, he also calls people cowards…
Thanks for your service, I honor that.

Fitna
by H. Numan

It’s almost time for Wilders to show his movie, and the Left have sharpened their blunt clubs. We can’t see Fitna — yet — as several activists complained to Network Solutions, where Wilders possibly planned to host his movie. I say “possibly”, because I don’t think Wilders intends to use Network Solutions. First of all because they already caved in, and secondly, because I don’t think Network Solutions can handle so much expected traffic to a site they host.

Yesterday, the IS (International Socialists) hosted a demonstration on the Dam in Amsterdam. Nederland bekend kleur (translated: “The Netherlands admits color”). This demo was supposed to show solidarity with ethnic minorities, but in actuality it was a ‘let’s bash Wilders in public’ demo.

It was a complete fizzle. At least 5,000 demonstrators were expected. Less than a thousand showed up. The national media weren’t even present.

IS went full blast: they invited everybody remotely important, and 50 VIP’s were silly enough to be present. Many of them are known left-wing politicians or wannabes: Ed van Thijn (PvdA), Mrs. Groenteman (left-wing wannabe), but also Hans Dijkstal, a man who should have known much better. Dijkstal is a VVD politician, not exactly somebody you’d expect to be present in Trotskyite demonstration. However, Dijkstal represents the ultra left wing of the VVD, so his presence together with former party leader Ed Nijpels is not that unusual. Also because both Dijkstal and Nijpels are now retired politicians. Anything to get into the limelight!

Rather unusual: no sitting parliamentarian attended this demonstration. Not even Groen Links or the Socialist Party. The reason: the parliament found unanimously that this demonstration was a direct personal and slanderous attack on the person of Mr. Wilders, a fellow parliamentarian. Which made Dijkstal and Nijpels look like the outcasts they actually are.
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Notable artists attended this demonstration fizzle, but some will not be happy that they did. The singer Frank Boeyen for example. Many of his fans didn’t appreciate it. It might be he gained a few during the demonstration, but he surely lost many more because of his presence. And even more because he, in the past, supported free speech… His audience clearly doesn’t appreciate turncoats.

As might be expected, the Fitna movie has been the talk of the day for many months. Other activists try to make it more difficult to find the movie, once it comes out, by spiffing the domain: they bought fitnathemovie.nl, org, doc, any domain name will do as long as it might divert traffic from this accursed movie.

Are Mohammedans really democratic? Well, in a democratic nation we do not practice censorship. Which means nobody can forbid Wilders to produce his movie. Only if and when he does he can be held responsible. A Muslim organization, the NMO (Dutch Muslim Broadcasting Organization) filed a kort geding, (a special fast track civil law suite) to force censorship before publication. Which, of course, is utterly impossible, given the current law in The Netherlands, and shows how desperate left-wing activists must be.

I’m not sure how many people, organizations and lawyers already filed lawsuits against Wilders. Gerard Spong, one of the best known (by criminals, that is) lawyers of The Netherlands did so too, with a team of law students, no less. So far, no luck. Not one lawsuit has been handled in court. All those intended lawsuits got much media attention. The fact that not one of them has been in court doesn’t. At least fifty lawsuits have been filed. None of them handled…

We saw several pillars of the politically correct establishment make complete fools of themselves: Doekle Terpstra and Harry de Winter. The last one is pretty well off, he can afford to dump €10,000 in a ditch. Both performed so well as national village idiots that for the foreseeable decades they won’t be offered anything else.

And let’s not forget our elected betters: the government and the civil administration. The prime minister cannot be held responsible for leaking as he didn’t do it. But the first rumors about the Fitna movie came from his ministry. From that moment on he showed he lacks something substantial: balls. He begged for forgiveness (for what? Nobody has even seen the movie!) and told the world not all Dutch are like that.

The Dutch embassy in Beirut shares his medical problem. They stopped hoisting the Dutch flag over the embassy compound ‘so as not to infuriate sensitive feelings’. That one didn’t ride well in parliament. The whole house was furious, and instructed the minister of foreign affairs, if necessary, to go personally to Beirut to hoist the flag! And that the complete staff of the embassy should be replaced immediately. The argument from the ambassador was waived aside, and rightly so. Not hoisting the flag doesn’t mean the embassy is invisible. We won’t hear much more about it, but rest assured that some careers will be terminated over this.

And the Dutch population in general? It seems most people support Wilders. If not actively, certainly passively. Demonstrations against Wilders fizzle out. This ‘Holland admits color’ isn’t the first one. In the past, the Left never found it difficult to drum up thousands of supporters for whatever reason. In fact, several left-wing activists boasted about it. But that is, fortunately, in the past.

Today the world is different, and we can be thankful for the Internet. Now you can see you aren’t the only one thinking something. You immediately see it in the replies on news articles of the mainstream media. In fact, when newspapers like De Telegraaf do not allow readers to post their opinion, it is suspicious.

In the past, it was very difficult to find like-minded souls: the left wing controlled the media completely. Then came the Internet and with it something that nobody thought possible: instead of the conservatives painting themselves constantly in a corner, it’s the turn of the Left.

Which they are doing pretty well.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/03/fitna-left-paints-itself-into-corner.html