It begins: Giuliani considering run for governor, say sources

posted at 11:30 am on March 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

As expected. Relative to America’s most famous john, a guy who dumped his wife at a press conference doesn’t seem like a bad deal.

In the latest twist in New York politics, Rudy Giuliani is eyeing a run for governor in a special election this fall should Gov. Paterson be forced to resign, sources say.

A top adviser to the former mayor, who pulled the plug on his presidential bid in January, yesterday dangled the possibility of Giuliani’s running in a special election.

It would happen in a year in which presidential nominee John McCain would be at the top of the GOP ticket.

Does it matter that McCain’s on the ticket or just that it’s a presidential election year so Republican turnout for the state races will be higher? Rudy surely doesn’t need Maverick’s coattails to draw the centrists. Friendly advice, though, in case he does run: You’ll have to campaign in more than one county to win. Exit question: Is the best challenger to a philanderer with mistress-related money problems really a … philanderer with mistress-related money problems?


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Is the best challenger to a philanderer with mistress-related money problems really a … philanderer with mistress-related money problems?

What did the baboon say in Disney’s Lion King?

My collie says:

“It doesn’t matter. It’s in the past.”

CyberCipher on March 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Put on your red dress baby,
‘Cause we’re going out to night.
Put on your red dress baby,
‘Cause we’re going out to night.
You better wear some boxing gloves
In case a fool might wanna fight.

Put on your high-heel sneakers,
wear your wig hat on your head.
Put on your high-heel sneakers,
Wear your wig hat on your head.
I’m pretty sure now baby
‘Cause you know, you’re gonna knock ‘em dead.

Put on your high-heel sneakers,
Wear your wig hat on your head.
Put on your high-heel sneakers,
Wear your wig hat on your head.
Well I’m pretty sure now darling
‘Cause you know you gonna knock ‘em dead.

saved on March 28, 2008 at 11:40 AM

The answer to your rude question is, “yes”

Janos Hunyadi on March 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Rude how?

Allahpundit on March 28, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Rudy is my favorite!

He gets my best wishes with whatever he wants to do. :)

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Cyber – It must say something about me because I always agree with your Collie!

Just yesterday I found gun shot residue on the right front paw of my pit mix…

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

I think it’s a great idea. Run Rudy, run!!

Conservatives R Us on March 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

The answer to your rude question is, “yes”

Just ignore it. AP has always hated Rudy.

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM

This could be bad. All an opponent has to do is run an ad like this:

You didn’t want him for president. Why would you want him for Governor?

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Good initiative, bad judgment.

blankminde on March 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM

“You’ll have to campaign in more than one county to win.”

Don’t be silly – each borough in New York City legally counts as a county, so he’ll campaign in five…

Realist on March 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM

SECOND LOOK AT AP’S RUDNESS !

AP doesnt hate rudy he just hates all politicians

William Amos on March 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM

rudy never made it to the ny primary did he?

lorien1973 on March 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Rudy is the best leader that America has seen since Reagan.

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Lol…Rudy looks like a saint at this point in NY politics. And he’s still good on economic issues; the NY Dems are horrible on every policy position.

Asher on March 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Apart from the whole Sanctuary City thing, we could do worse…

Spanglemaker on March 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Apart from the whole Sanctuary City thing, we could do worse…

Spanglemaker on March 28, 2008 at 11:54 AM

I’d love to see what you would have done in the same situation when the Federal Government was negligent in their responsibilities, of deporting the people sent to them.

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

To answer your question honestly AP, I think trying to tar Rudy with the same brush as Spitzer will be a stretch. He didn’t hire high priced call girls and hold up in expensive hotels with his long black socks still on, LOL!
No, he entered into an affair and threw his wife Donna Hanover away. He then MARRIED his mistress. No seedy tales of hookers in hotel rooms, no FBI lurking around on “structuring” or money laundering charges, just a guy that committed adultery and married his love interest. In today’s world of politics that is pretty tame…

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

rudy never made it to the ny primary did he?

lorien1973 on March 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Good point.

Mind you, I think he’d be better off running for Hillary’s seat, just to stick it to her if she gets the nomination.

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

AP’s question was snarky and rude and a great indicator how the Dems are going to blow us out of the water this year because we ahve such a dynamic candidate in John McCain /sarcasm. Rudy was a terrific mayor and would have been an very good President. Enjoy President Obama while you have wet dreams of Ronald Reagan and Presdinet Fred.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Best Mayor the city has ever had. Will make a fantastic Governor! Go Rudy! President 2012!!

kcluva on March 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I would vote for Rudy for Senator or Gov in a NY minute!

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Just ignore it. AP has always hated Rudy.

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Er, AP supported Rudy in the beginning, IIRC.

amerpundit on March 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM

If I lived in NY I would vote for Rudy..

I wish he was our Nominee. ::cries::

that said McCain has my support, now..

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM

There is a reason why the GOP is referred to as the “stupid party” – a good example has been the vile Rudy bashing over the past few months on this blog. Enjoy Presdient Barack Hussein Obama’s 8 year reign of error with Zbigniew Brezinzski, Bill Richardson, Samantha Power and Tony McPeak in government position such as the UN, State, CIA, Pentagon, NSA, making foreign and defense policy with a drooling MSM to fawn over him and cover for them. Enjoy the exciting and dynamic Jeb Bush candidacy in 2012 and Mike Huckabee in 2016.

“You blocks, you stones, you worse then senseless things.”

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Just ignore it. AP has always hated [insert individual commenter's favorite politician/celebrity/cause/hobby horse].

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Fixed.

baldilocks on March 28, 2008 at 12:13 PM

I thought that is what he has been running for all along…that’s all he mentioned when he was campaigning.
*
With that said, I am a Rudy fan for Governor, some people are just fit for certain roles, and that is his role…a great governor of a pivotal state.
Can’t get much better then that…besides it comes with a cool black book with names and phone numbers…

right2bright on March 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Take it easy baldi…I just love to needle AP for his “every silver lining has a cloud” way of blogging. All in good fun.

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM

“You blocks, you stones, you worse then senseless things.”

Good stuff!

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Rudy’s main selling point: “Hey, you already know about my scandal”. I’d vote for him if I were still in NY.

BTW, now the Puerto Rican governor’s been indicted. I think what’s wrong with this country is that our governors have been busy doing everything but their jobs.

rbj on March 28, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Good stuff!

Jim-Rose on March 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

From Julius Caesar

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 12:25 PM

I think what’s wrong with this country is that our governors have been busy doing everything but their jobs

I think what (in significant part) is wrong with this country is that people have fallen into a mental rut where they refer to certain people as “our governors” or “our leaders”. They are nothing of the sort. They are leaders of government, governors of states, mayors of cities – they are not the master of people.

They are our employees & servants. We need to remember that, and ensure that they are constantly aware of it.

LimeyGeek on March 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Rudy benefits from the Democrap Liberal Curse: the higher you go on the political food chain, the less serious liberals look with their college-kid platforms.

I think his timing is perfect, along the lines of “had enough?”

Jaibones on March 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Ha Ha. Rudy to clean up all these sex scandals?

hanzblinx on March 28, 2008 at 12:43 PM

To answer your question honestly AP, I think trying to tar Rudy with the same brush as Spitzer will be a stretch.

The comparison was to Paterson, not Spitzer.

Pablo on March 28, 2008 at 12:50 PM

There is a reason why the GOP is referred to as the “stupid party” – a good example has been the vile Rudy bashing over the past few months on this blog.

Huh? Rudy deserves bashing over letting a nomination that was his to lose get away from him. And I say that as a Rudy supporter. Rudy’s strategy gave us John McCain.

Pablo on March 28, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Of course there will never be the outrage over Patterson like what Spitzer got. The reason, unlike Spitzer who had a Dem to succeed him, Patterson has a Republican to succeed him. So the libs will do everything they can to keep him in office.

Iblis on March 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM

“The comparison was to Paterson, not Spitzer.”

OK Pablo, let’s compare him to Paterson… Here is a guy and his wife that both admit to adulturous affairs. The diff is that Paterson is now being investigated for financing these affairs with contributors and taxpayer’s dollars. In addition, Patterson, after having several years of out of wedlock sex did not marry his mistress. He went back to the old wife who also was screwing around.

So, either way, I think Rudy can claim the high ground, even if it is just above flood water stage as I do not condone the sexual actions of any of these men. In fact, they all make me sick.

On balance, when you consider that we still have a MA Congressman in office whos boyfriend was running a brothel out of the Congressman’s D.C. townhouse it makes Rudy’s adultary seem rather tame…

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Mind you, I think he’d be better off running for Hillary’s seat, just to stick it to her if she gets the nomination.

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

This is EXACTLY what Rudy should do. The problem is that he couldn’t beat Hillary for the senate seat and nobody knows it better than him.

AND YOU PEOPLE LAY OFF OF AP. AP is a NEW YORKER. AP SUPPORTED RUDY. Don’t be mad at AP because Rudy ran the worst campaign in my lifetime. Rudy’s problem was and is Rudy. He’s a good guy who does a lot of good things. . . but he is a TERRIBLE candidate.

LAY OFF AP! I guarantee you that he’d rather Rudy be the R nom. If you want to bash someone for hating on Rudy, bash me.

ThackerAgency on March 28, 2008 at 1:42 PM

This is EXACTLY what Rudy should do. The problem is that he couldn’t beat Hillary for the senate seat and nobody knows it better than him.

ThackerAgency on March 28, 2008 at 1:42 PM

I want to hear the logic behind this. He’s got cred as the mayor, not to mention the 9/11 handler and crimestopper. What would hold him back?

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Just what we need. Another pro-abortion “republican” running for a statewide seat. That should really excite conservatives.

Branch Rickey on March 28, 2008 at 2:01 PM

He couldn’t beat Hillary for Senate because he got prostate cancer for God’s sake and had to drop out to tend to medical treatment.
I mean, really, you are welcome to not like Rudy as a political candidate but, let’s at least be honest about what went on in the past.
If YOU GOT PROSTATE CANCER do you think you would stop everything to save your own life?

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

I’d vote for him in a heartbeat, and I suspect he’d make a good governor. One of his biggest problems in the presidential run was that he works much better as a challenger than a successor (one reason I think he’d be president right now if Al Gore won in 2000.) In this case, he could say that he’s needed to clean up the mess left by two Democrats.

He and McCain would likely boost one another in the state, which would work out well for the both of them.

Mister Mets on March 28, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Just keep Rudy from doing something stupid like Ed Koch did in 1982 and insulting conservative upstate New Yorkers (no Playboy interviews, please), and he should win. Koch’s screw-up gave New Yorkers 12 years of Mario Cuomo. If Rudy messes up, say hello to Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

jon1979 on March 28, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Rudy as NY Gov would give him a chance to prove his new found conservatism.

If he does govern as a conservative NY Gov, conservatives will be much more trusting if he tries for President again.

RJL on March 28, 2008 at 2:18 PM

He couldn’t beat Hillary for Senate because he got prostate cancer for God’s sake and had to drop out to tend to medical treatment.
I mean, really, you are welcome to not like Rudy as a political candidate but, let’s at least be honest about what went on in the past.
If YOU GOT PROSTATE CANCER do you think you would stop everything to save your own life?

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 2:08 PM

…you do realize I’m talking about a future run against Hillary, right?

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Rudy is the best leader that America has seen since Reagan.

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 11:51 AM

You’ve been dying for the opportunity to say this for months I’m sure!

I still say he should come out to Cali and run for governor.

Pretty much anyone would be better than the governator and maybe Rudy would be the best man to deal with “the MS-13 problem” on the east side of L.A.

SaintOlaf on March 28, 2008 at 2:34 PM

Ya know, one of the WNY districts is looking for a R candidate for the House.
.
Seriously though, I think Hillary’s seat is more vulnerable now than before. They both have baggage, but Rudy’s leadership is actually demonstrable. I think he’s one of those pols that is better in the Legislature than as an Executive. At least in Congress, his liberal tendencies are diluted–somewhat. He was my third choice as Prez, and for me his support of the GWOT trump several other things.
.
Anyway, everyone in Upstate NY knows that whatever NYC wants, they get, politically, socially, etc. So he may only need to campaign in 1 county, 5 boroughs, whatever.

artlover on March 28, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Despite a life long membership in the Republican Party, I can’t see one single reason for voting for Rudy, save and except, one hopes that most of his “sins” are already on his sleeve. But will his kids yet speak to him? Despite my father’s birth in Brooklyn, more than 100 years ago, I’m very, very glad that fate or chance or plain old good luck has moved me and mine thousands of miles away from there.

ich dien on March 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Despite a life long membership in the Republican Party, I can’t see one single reason for voting for Rudy, save and except, one hopes that most of his “sins” are already on his sleeve.

How about because he was a terrific mayor (probably the best mayor ever) and turned a sewer of a city around?

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Despite a life long membership in the Republican Party, I can’t see one single reason for voting for Rudy, save and except, one hopes that most of his “sins” are already on his sleeve. But will his kids yet speak to him?

How about because he was the best mayor of NYC ever and turned a sewer around in 8 years? Most of the anti Rudy New Yorkers did not live here before he became mayor or moved in during his mayoralty and did not experience the “joys” of the Lindsay, Beame, Dinkins years. /sarcasm

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 3:51 PM

oops double post. I thought the first time it did not take.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 3:51 PM

I think Rudy would be a great Governor. I hope he runs.

SoulGlo on March 28, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Most of the anti-Rudy New Yorkers who did live there during his mayoralty were the rich liberal Democrats, who had the $$$ to survive living in the city’s decline because they had doormen for their building, limos or cabs so they never took the subway, never ate in public areas frequented by panhandles or gangs of obnoxious teens, etc.

Those types really should buddy-up with the brain-dead conservatives who can’t tell the difference between Rudy and Hillary or Chuckie Shumer, and think anybody from New York must be a doctrinaire liberal (roughly the same as saying Texas must be a hard left state, because look at the people elected to office in Austin).

jon1979 on March 28, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Those types really should buddy-up with the brain-dead conservatives who can’t tell the difference between Rudy and Hillary or Chuckie Shumer, and think anybody from New York must be a doctrinaire liberal (roughly the same as saying Texas must be a hard left state, because look at the people elected to office in Austin).

Well said! The other anti Rudy types were people who were honchos in the municipal unions who were used to the city doing a financial Lewinsky on them. Rudy was a terrific mayor and he made the city safe enough for anti Rudy yuppie types to move into so they could hate him without being distracted by muggers (all the while sipping their over priced Starbuck’s frappucinos). Rudy left his shrewish wife Donna “The Vagina Monologues” for a better woman – good for him! As for his kids, they are two dopey kids who I remember when they were young.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 4:16 PM

Mind you, I think he’d be better off running for Hillary’s seat, just to stick it to her if she gets the nomination.

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

I would love it if that happens! I think he could’ve beat her in the senate race had fate not intervened, and although I’m no big Rudi fan, he’d have been in a better position to run for the Whitehouse. And, Hill would hopefully just have been baking cookies in Chappaqua…*sigh*

TeeDee on March 28, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Never understood why he didn’t run against Spitballs in the first place…

SuperCool on March 28, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Never understood why he didn’t run against Spitballs in the first place…

SuperCool on March 28, 2008 at 4:33 PM

There was an air of inevitability regarding Shpritzer becoming mayor. He had that phony persona as a “White Collar Crime Buster” that too many people bought into. May New Yorkers voted for Rudy for mayor because they rightfully put their safety over their ideology. For Governor they would have reverted to ideological and party loyalty. Shpritzer probably would have won (which shows again how stupid New Yorkers can be)a race against Giuliani.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM

There was an air of inevitability regarding Shpritzer becoming mayor.

Again my mistake. I meant “governor” not mayor. Also after 12 years of the lugubrious Pataki administration, I doubt another GOPer could have won in 2006.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 4:38 PM

I think Rudy would be a great Governor. I hope he runs.

SoulGlo on March 28, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Ditto. New York Governor is a perfect role for Rudy. I would guess that current New York mayor Michael Bloomberg would also be very interested in running too.

olympian2008 on March 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM

All of you people saying ‘Rudy cleaned up the city that was crappy before he was mayor’ realize that you sound exactly like Ms. Obama when she says she’s proud to be American for the first time in her life.

ONE MAN did not ‘turn the city around’. My problem with him was his denying his citizens’ 2nd amendment rights. Why is it that you people don’t see that that PHILOSOPHY is a bad thing. Rudy thinks that the government is the solution – as long as he’s in charge (psssst. . . that’s what liberals think).

The 2nd amendment says that the government may not be there to protect you when you need them so you need to be able to protect yourself. Rudy looked at a gun ban as ‘protecting the cops’. And then he SUED the manufacturers because they dared to make a legal product. . . THAT TAKES BALLS OF A KIND THAT I DON’T WANT NEAR POWER.

Madison Conservative he wouldn’t beat Clinton for the NY senate seat. He just wouldn’t. He got ONE delegate out of his front runner status for a year. . . ONE. So is everyone just missing out on the great conservative messiah that this Rudy is?

If I were to put money on it, I’d put money on Hillary against Rudy in NY for the senate seat. There is no way Rudy beats Hillary in any election within a majority D region. Rudy can’t even beat Ron Paul.

ThackerAgency on March 28, 2008 at 5:09 PM

Rudy was in charge during the Clinton years. So are you going to give Clinton credit for the technology boom? If you give Rudy credit for ‘turning the city around’ during a time of unprecedented economic prosperity, your understanding of how this stuff works together is skewed. More economic prosperity – without respect to the government – will lead to better times for a society – without respect to the government.

You want to give Rudy credit for Microsoft? and the Wall Street boom that gave him the revenue he needed to do whatever he wanted? Rudy ain’t no superman. He’s perfect for NY.

ThackerAgency on March 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM

Rudy can’t even beat Ron Paul.

ThackerAgency on March 28, 2008 at 5:09 PM

Dude, that was just mean.

MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 5:21 PM

You know Thacker, I lived in NYC prior to the Rudy regieme and during. You can cherry pick all kinds of issues, which the liberal press did ad nauseum, to take the man down. The fact is that he cleaned up the city with much screaming and shouting from everyone…
I will never forget his driving the prostitution trade out of Times Square. Guess what, you can now take your family to a show and dinner in Times Square thanks to Rudy.
Your harping on gun control laws falls on deaf ears… There are lots of good and bad things about politicians that we can go over and over. The fact is that Rudy and his admin. made the city livable again. I don’t know where you live but, I can tell you as a NY’er that Rudy’s reign made a remarkable difference in the city. Would you like me to go into detail about how a 20 something female was unable to go to dinner and a show before Rudy took power? I would be more than happy to relate my experiences.
Today my family and I can go right into the heart of Times Square and enjoy a dinner and a show. That just wasn’t possible before Rudy took over.
I understand that this is a “one trick pony” but, tell me what other politicians in the great state of NY that haven’t been sleeping with whores can atest to the same. Maybe I would vote for them…

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 7:00 PM

babs
Thank you! I have lived my entire life in NYC form the Wagner, Lindsay, Beame, Koch, Rudy, and now Bloomberg administrations. ThackerAgenncy is not from NYC. He is an ideologue (like my sister a Huckabee supporter because she is an anti abortion one issue fanatic) who probably hates anyone whom he cannot agree with on 10 out 10 issues. Remember how disgusting the subways used to be? You could not even see out of a subway window because of the graffiti. Pre-Rudy NYC – rent the movies Death Wish or The Warriors.

Rudy also told Al Sharpton that City Hall was no longer open to him.

Btw no big city mayor anywhere is going to call for citizens to be armed with guns.

Hilts on March 28, 2008 at 8:37 PM

To answer your question honestly AP, I think trying to tar Rudy with the same brush as Spitzer will be a stretch. He didn’t hire high priced call girls and hold up in expensive hotels with his long black socks still on, LOL!
No, he entered into an affair and threw his wife Donna Hanover away. He then MARRIED his mistress. No seedy tales of hookers in hotel rooms, no FBI lurking around on “structuring” or money laundering charges, just a guy that committed adultery and married his love interest. In today’s world of politics that is pretty tame…

Babs on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Tell it like it is, Babs. Tell it like it is……….

The premise of this post was a rhetorical fallacy: a combo oof ‘inconsistent ad hominum’ and ‘false dilemma’

( rude squared )

Janos Hunyadi on March 28, 2008 at 8:43 PM

DO IT!!!!!!!!

that race would be awesometastic. and if he won?? psh.
would kick major A

(although i like the idea of him running for LA mayor too)

Drunk Report on March 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM