Disgrace: UN Human Rights Council endorses ban on religious defamation; Update: UN chief rips “Fitna”

posted at 1:21 pm on March 28, 2008 by Allahpundit

A near-perfect Orwellian moment: Religious fascists exploiting a human rights watchdog to silence dissent of which they disapprove. It’s Ezra Levant and the Star Chamber on a global scale.

The top U.N. rights body on Thursday passed a resolution proposed by Islamic countries saying it is deeply concerned about the defamation of religions and urging governments to prohibit it…

The U.N. Human Rights Council, which is dominated by Arab and other Muslim countries, adopted the resolution on a 21-10 vote over the opposition of Europe and Canada.

EU countries, including France, Germany and Britain, voted against. Previously EU diplomats had said they wanted to stop the growing worldwide trend of using religious anti-defamation laws to limit free speech…

Although the text refers frequently to protecting all religions, the only religion specified as being attacked is Islam, to which eight paragraphs refer.

For sh*ts and giggles, here’s a selection from the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

There’s plenty of criticism available online about the HRC but as a precis you can do worse than this old post and the immortal video of the head of UN Watch telling the Council, to their faces, precisely what he thinks of them. Take five minutes. You won’t be sorry.

Elsewhere in free speech land, as photos of Geert Wilders start appearing on Al Qaeda websites and a spokesman for Iran’s foreign ministry advises Britain and the Netherlands to suppress “Fitna” post haste, the EU assures the Muslim world that it feels its pain.

Update: You’ll be happy to know that the right of free expression isn’t at stake in “Fitna.” Why? Because it’s offensive.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday condemned as “offensively anti-Islamic” a Dutch lawmaker’s film that accuses the Koran of inciting violence.

Ban acknowledged efforts by the government of the Netherlands to stop the broadcast of the film, which was launched by Islam critic Geert Wilders over the Internet, and appealed for calm to those “understandably offended by it.”

“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,” Ban said in a statement. “The right of free expression is not at stake here.”


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We paid for his mic. Dopes!

JiangxiDad on March 28, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Lots of good links there. HERE is one more, from the Heritage Foundation, about the UN Human Rights Coucil…

JetBoy on March 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM

over the opposition of Europe and Canada.

The passion still burns.

emailnuevo on March 28, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Typical UN bullsh*t. I can’t even get angry about it anymore.

Enrique on March 28, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Now why would AP think this is a disgrace? Oh yeah, he likes to defame religion too. Say AP, why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit to your hidden agenda.

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Was it yesterday that ED posted a story about the human rights council? Appointing some anti-semitic guy as the spokesman for the west? I read that somewhere. I forget now. Ace maybe.

lorien1973 on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Can anyone remind these UNintelligent officials that there is a difference between religious Islam and political Islam. The radicals are playing it both ways with a sh!t eating grin on their faces.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Now, why would Andy in Agoura Hills comment on this thread?

Ah, he’s a hateful little troll. I wonder who exactly he thinks he is?

emailnuevo on March 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Does it really make a difference? Won’t it be ignored like everything else the do-nothing UN mandates?

awake on March 28, 2008 at 1:33 PM

P.S. We have a right to religious defamation – it’s called the first amendment. Looks like America’s hateful, too!

Oh, the irony!

emailnuevo on March 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM

The UN being laughable as always.

Geronimo on March 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM

In Saudi Arabia don’t they kill your if you accidentally take the wrong exit headed to one of their, cough, holy cities?

Blake on March 28, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Say AP, why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit to your hidden agenda.

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Zionist world conspiracy?

What say you Andy. Why don’t you reveal AP’s secret agenda.

awake on March 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM

So what are they going to do…sew the heads back onto all of the Christian they have cut off?
Do they define stoning, maiming, burning, raping, dragging bodies through the streets, stomping, imprisoning, murdering Christians as defamation? Or is that retaliation, and protectionism? Or maybe they define Christians as a political party and arm of the imperialist West, therefore, defamation does not count

right2bright on March 28, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Hmmm…I can see this having profound influences on how I conduct myself on a daily basis.

tlynch001 on March 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM

So, what power, if any, does the UN have to enforce such stupid laws and regulations? Is there anything behind it at all? Will we get a bill for a gazillion billion euro fine for $hit talking islam?

Blake on March 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief

.
So, the good news is that now moslems who change religion are no longer under threat of death! See, there is good news here after all!

Think_b4_speaking on March 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM

I await the contortions that will follow the first filing in response to the perennial blood libels.

DrSteve on March 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM

http://www.zipperfish.com/toons/yaafm/yaafm-12-muslims/

An Oldy, but a goody….

“Stop blowing shit up…”

Content warning…

Romeo13 on March 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM

The pressure to protect religions from defamation has been growing ever since a Danish magazine published caricatures of Muhammad, provoking riots across the Islamic world in 2006 in which dozens of people were killed.

I just loved this quote in the linked article. Any literate individual with half a brain could see the pro-Islam, anti-tolerance trajectory of this action. So, or course it passed in the U.N.!

cs89 on March 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM

If your not with us, your against us.

cntrlfrk on March 28, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Obviously, more doublespeak. Don’t draw our god in cartoons, or we will burn your towns and behead you. Thanks for letting us build mosques in your heartland- oh, you want to bring a Bible into our country? Nah.

cs89 on March 28, 2008 at 1:41 PM

I’m with the EU on this one! I’ll have to mark this down somewhere…

What’s Canada’s stance on this? Aren’t they on that horrible council?

forest on March 28, 2008 at 1:42 PM

It is really time to get the UN out of the US, or better yet just get the US out of the UN

ConservativePartyNow on March 28, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Fine. Let’s just start referring to Islam in political terms instead of religious terms.

RushBaby on March 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Now why would AP think this is a disgrace? Oh yeah, he likes to defame religion too. Say AP, why don’t you just come out of the closet and admit to your hidden agenda.

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 28, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Genius? The HRC is dominated by Muslim and Arab nations. The only religion mentioned in the resolution is Islam. It was sparked by the Danish cartoons and the agenda of those looking to silence those critical of Islam.

Besides, there is something called freedom of speech. My right to criticize is in contained in that freedom.

amerpundit on March 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM

The UN “HRC” has made it’s ruling. Now let them enforce it.

Techie on March 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM

What’s Canada’s stance on this? Aren’t they on that horrible council?

forest on March 28, 2008 at 1:42 PM

They opposed it. The EU, US, Canada and others opposed it. But the council is dominated by countries who wouldn’t know human rights if it hit them in the face.

amerpundit on March 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM

These same idiots today officially declared global warming a human rights issue.

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Fine. Let’s just start referring to Islam in political terms instead of religious terms.

RushBaby on March 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Good idea, RB.

forest on March 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM

…”and the immortal video of the head of UN Watch telling the Council, to their faces, precisely what he thinks of them. Take five minutes. You won’t be sorry.” I wasn’t. Thanks for that link. I’ll find out who that idiot was who told Neuer that he ‘wasn’t going to thank him for that’.

Blink has something there, but, even non-church-goers like me are Infidels to the Is-lame-o facists. That works in their favor, any deviation and you lose your head. No nuance allowed.

Christine on March 28, 2008 at 1:48 PM

I really can’t stomach al-Islam

blatantblue on March 28, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Hmmmmm I practice my Catholicism in a Muslim country and I either am taxed, beaten or killed…. That’s NOT discrimination, though?

MNDavenotPC on March 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Europe will not “feel the pain” unless it is hit hard on a large scale with thousands of causalities.

Until it happens, Europe can continue with its path of Islamization by submitting to Islam and to its Muslim population.

All this brouhaha about a documentary here, a movie there, a cartoon here, an article there is just a waste of time and unfruitful.

Believe me, NOTHING will wake up Europe but a devastating attack by the Muslims.

Unfortunately, Europe has chosen the hard, most painful way to wake up to reality.

It is sad, but necessary.

Indy Conservative on March 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM

A true Human Rights Council would ban Islam.

MB4 on March 28, 2008 at 1:54 PM

The top U.N. rights body on Thursday passed a resolution proposed by Islamic countries saying it is deeply concerned about the defamation of religions and urging governments to prohibit it…

This is beyond absurd and ridiculous…to quote from the Monty Python movie Holy Grail…”I wave my private parts at you, I fart in your general direction you tiny wiper of other people’s bottoms!”

What’s next, white supremacists conducting tours at a holocaust museum?!?! If it weren’t so absurd and ridiculous I’d laugh…HA…HA…HA…

Liberty or Death on March 28, 2008 at 1:55 PM

These same idiots today officially declared global warming a human rights issue.

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM

That reminds me I must sue Al Gore for breach of promise.

It is now spring and there is snow on the ground and it is not much above freezing in the Portland, Oregon area. It almost never snows here, even in winter.

MB4 on March 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Fine. Let’s just start referring to Islam in political terms instead of religious terms.

RushBaby on March 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Once again, I say “Exactly”.

Islam by it’s own nature is a political entity as much as it’s a religious one. Most all Islamic nations (save Turkey, for example) are run by the clerics. And the laws of Islam always trump all others.

JetBoy on March 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Stop funding the U.N. and kick them out of New York already.

- The Cat

MirCat on March 28, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Hmmmmm I practice my Catholicism in a Muslim country and I either am taxed, beaten or killed…. That’s NOT discrimination, though?

MNDavenotPC on March 28, 2008 at 1:53 PM

No, you see in that case (where you’re not a Muslim), you’re actually occupying Muslim land with your blasphemy.

amerpundit on March 28, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Zionist world conspiracy?

What say you Andy. Why don’t you reveal AP’s secret agenda.

awake on March 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Yeah, that’s it.

Seriously, I really don’t care about AP’s agenda. But what he refuses to do is admit to it. So everyone that reads his blog is aware that he is anti-religion. That’s all. Just admit it.

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Muslims on a UN Human Rights Council. Well, it looks like Orwell nailed it, again, in “1984″:

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

OhEssYouCowboys on March 28, 2008 at 2:03 PM

These same idiots today officially declared global warming a human rights issue.

JammieWearingFool on March 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM

The Islamic thug government of the Maldives making a human rights issue of global warming. Oh man, that’s rich.

Typical of the HRC though. I guess the Maldives is learning how to work the system from the other Islamic bastions of human rights on that council.

forest on March 28, 2008 at 2:03 PM

The UNHRC is a sick, twisted joke, and the majority of its members represent thugs and abusers.

The UN itself is hopelessly corrupt.

It is well past time for a League of Free Nations, and for those nations to cut off most if not all support for the UN’s kakistocracy (that’s government by the worst citizens, for those who didn’t know).

The UN has become what it was founded to prevent – protection for the worst, a sustainer of conflict, an enabler for thugs and tyrants.

Merovign on March 28, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Zionist world conspiracy?

What say you Andy. Why don’t you reveal AP’s secret agenda.

awake on March 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM

The big question???

Why are the Illuminati allowing Moslems to pull this stuff?

Romeo13 on March 28, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I’ll find out who that idiot was who told Neuer that he ‘wasn’t going to thank him for that’.

Whoever that was, he sure speaks like a girl.

mikeyboss on March 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Zionist world conspiracy?

What say you Andy. Why don’t you reveal AP’s secret agenda.

awake on March 28, 2008 at 1:35 PM

No, no no- Robot world conspiracy. Duh.

Hollowpoint on March 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM

Of course in no way is losing one’s head for converting from Islam to Christianity considered “religious defamation”, right UNHRC?

Hollowpoint on March 28, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Tell it to the Saudis and other crap in that part of the world. What a waste of US tax dollars and for what? Billions down the tube while blood is shed with impunity and not a word uttered. God will deal with these folks and nations accordingly.

wepeople on March 28, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Merovign on March 28, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Check this out at TownHall

captivated_dem on March 28, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Typical UN bullsh*t. I can’t even get angry about it anymore.

Enrique on March 28, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Precisely. They’re so risible that one can just shrug, or be entertained by their insane futility.

Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM

For how long has it been time to relegate the UN to food programs?? I say at least 34 years.

georgealbert on March 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM

“The U.N. Human Rights Council, which is dominated by Arab and other Muslim countries”

Yet again another brilliant move by the U.N.

SaintOlaf on March 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM

The U.N. Human Rights Council = oxymoron.

Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Ban Ki-moon, eh? Didn’t we promote his candidacy in the first place?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on March 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Friday condemned as “offensively anti-Islamic”

Did he even watch it?

- The Cat

P.S. Watching it is offensive and anti-islamic I bet.

MirCat on March 28, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Ban Ki-moon, eh? Didn’t we promote his candidacy in the first place?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on March 28, 2008 at 2:33 PM

Kind of another Condi moment.

MirCat on March 28, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Example of UN uselessnes #17,497…

CP on March 28, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Why does the UN still exist?

j0 on March 28, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Unless I’m misreading things, the vote reported above was wrong. Here’s the vote actual from the UN Human Right Commission page:
http://www.unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/view01/4826AF1691C43372C12572AE00583E0B?opendocument

In favour (24): Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Cameroon, China, Cuba, Djibouti, Gabon, Indonesia, Jordan, Malaysia, Mali, Mauritius, Mexico, Morocco, Pakistan, Philippines, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Tunisia.

Against (14): Canada, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Germany, Guatemala, Japan, Netherlands, Poland, Republic of Korea, Romania, Switzerland, Ukraine and United Kingdom.

Abstentions (9): Argentina, Brazil, Ecuador, Ghana, India, Nigeria, Peru, Uruguay and Zambia.

I’m thrilled beyond words to see Communist China and Cuba defending religion from the criticisms of atheists. And I don’t get Brazil’s absention at all. Brazil had the excellent idea of using the UN HRC to attack muslim abuse of gay people and now turns around and abstains on free speech? Pretty gost darn PC! One idiotic thing that the Bush Administration did was to refuse to support Brazil’s efforts. Maybe the abstention is payback?

And why are our amusing little friends from South of the Border voting with the muslims?

thuja on March 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Typical UN bullsh*t. I can’t even get angry about it anymore.

Enrique on March 28, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Precisely. They’re so risible that one can just shrug, or be entertained by their insane futility.

Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Yeah, I could sit back and laugh at these clowns, but there’s this: The United States has the maximum assessed contribution to the UN regular budget — 22%. In 2005 the assessed amount is $439,611,612.

And this: In the context of the budget request and subject to congressional approval, total US contributions to the organizations in the United Nations system and peacekeeping could total over $2.2 billion in FY2005.

And I don’t think that $2.2 billion includes this: The President’s budget contains a request for the United States to provide a $1.2 billion loan to the United Nations for renovation of its headquarters complex in New York City. The proposed loan would be repayable over thirty years with an interest rate of 5.5 percent. Since all UN member states would be responsible for repayment of the loan, the United States would be responsible for paying its share, or 22 percent, of the repayment costs.

All that stuff brings me closer to puking than laughing.

misterpeasea on March 28, 2008 at 2:54 PM

In favour (24): Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Cameroon, China, Cuba, Djibouti, Gabon, Indonesia, Jordan, Malaysia, Mali, Mauritius, Mexico, Morocco, Pakistan, Philippines, Russian Federation, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Tunisia.

It’s more or less the “group W bench” of world politics.

forest on March 28, 2008 at 2:55 PM

The U.N. should stay out of the religion business. What is blasphemy for one cult is holy writ for another and besides, agnostics and atheists also have rights! In any case by any religion they would recognize that collection of worthless bureaucrats has committed enough “sin” for 10 times the Earth’s population.

Annar on March 28, 2008 at 3:03 PM

The Human Rights Council seems to weigh heavily the rights of those that act less than human, than appose to those who are human.

Kini on March 28, 2008 at 3:09 PM

“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,”

Sooooo…..

Depicting the subjects of the movie engaging in hate speech and inciting violence constitutes such?

Orwellian…

JeffWeimer on March 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Ever go Trick or Treat for UNHRC when you were a kid? We’d wear ski masks and tote RPG’s and tell people that if they didn’t cough up some dough for UNHRC we’d saw their heads off with bread knives.

Akzed on March 28, 2008 at 3:10 PM

You can be confident that whenever anyone says “the right of free speech is not involved here” or “this is not a First Amendment case” it’s a sure sign that that is exactly what is involved.

Furthermore, do the backers of this idea realize they are giving up their right to criticize other religions? If they are truly serious in their concerns over the wide-spread criticism of religions perhaps they can prove it to the rest of the world by first banning any criticism of any religion in their own countries.

Fred 2 on March 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM

So can Christian Conservatives take Democrats to the UN when the Dems start slamming them?

rbj on March 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM

And why are our amusing little friends from South of the Border voting with the muslims?

thuja on March 28, 2008 at 2:40 PM

Any little thing that pokes a stick in our eye is my guess.

brtex on March 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM

“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,”

The fun part is that Fitna neither expresses hatred toward muslims nor incites others to violence against muslims. Unless asking muslims to renounce violence is now classified as hate speech. Which it clearly is.

I’m also relieved to see that the referenced AQ linked website is only hoping that Wilders suffers a massive stroke. That seems like some sort of progress.

marc@hubsandspokes on March 28, 2008 at 3:41 PM

All that stuff brings me closer to puking than laughing.

misterpeasea on March 28, 2008 at 2:54 PM

We’re just keeping the devil in our bossom, rather than move it to, say Caracas, or Berne.

Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM

The United Nations is one of the most corrupt, inefficient, ineffective, and hypocritical organizations on the face of the planet.

Barack Obama is currently sponsoring a bill in the Senate to give the U.N. .7 of the United States’ GNP (estimated to be nearly $1 Trillion over the next 15 years), in order to combat “global poverty.”

I guess Obama sees this as part of the pay-back from Evil and Greedy White America for all the years we’ve been forcing Third World black & brown nations to live in “grinding poverty” — if Obama actually believes that crap that “Reverend” Wright has been peddling from his pulpit, which of course, he doesn’t.

AZCoyote on March 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Remember Samantha Power? I recommend you read her book about Sergio Veiria deMello. It gives you a great insight into what kind of person aspires to join the UN and how they advance with its structure.

gabriel sutherland on March 28, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Exit Question: When can we expect an official UN condemnation of San Francisco and it’s Fullsome Street Fair where they sell cross/crucifix shaped dildos and other assorted religious themed sex toys on the street? Will Piss Christ be condemned? What about the painting of The Blessed Virgin smeared with elephant dung?

Nah, I’m not holding my breath either.

It’s only bad when it “insults” Islam.

SuperCool on March 28, 2008 at 4:27 PM

“There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,” Ban said in a statement. “The right of free expression is not at stake here.”

The right to free speech isn’t an issue, so shut up. Thus saith the UN. What a joke.

jdawg on March 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM

We’re just keeping the devil in our bossom, rather than move it to, say Caracas, or Berne.

Entelechy on March 28, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Surely we can keep an eye on the jackasses without funding them to the tune of $2 billion+ a year. All they do is issue press releases condemning us and Israel.

And I wonder if that $2 billion+ includes Turtle(‘s Head) Bay.

Juan McCain’s foreign policy speech sounded like John Kerry’s global test, but I’d be willing to start a UNRG (United Nations with Representative Governments) as long as we use the funds we’re currently wasting on the UN to do it.

We pay our enemies to bash us and our allies. One more example of the up=downism of the Left.

misterpeasea on March 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM

I truly do not know why we put up with this stuff.

Sultry Beauty on March 28, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Now why would AP think this is a disgrace?

Because nobody has any right to wage violence on anyone over a movie? What other trivial concepts do you have trouble with? We’d be happy to help you out.

freevillage on March 28, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Great. Now let’s see you monkeys enforce it!

I spit on your “prophet” and all his followers. Ban that.

mojo on March 28, 2008 at 9:11 PM

Get us out of the U.N.

Johan Klaus on March 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM

We pay our enemies to bash us and our allies. One more example of the up=downism of the Left.

misterpeasea on March 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Agreed!

Entelechy on March 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Sorry, folks, but when I first saw the picture I thought it was Ringo Starr. Were these guys separated at birth?

abcurtis on March 29, 2008 at 9:36 AM