Video: “Fitna” now online; Update: Torrent link added; Update: LiveLeak issues statement; Update: Muslim leader shrugs

posted at 2:27 pm on March 27, 2008 by Allahpundit

He posted it on his party’s website, but that appears to be down already. This just turned up on LiveLeak; I’m guessing it’s the real deal. Standby.

Update: LiveLeak must be getting hit hard because I can’t get it to load here. If you see copies elsewhere, e-mail the link.

Update: The English version won’t load. Here’s the Dutch.

Update: I’m attempting to download it from LiveLeak. We’ll see what Michelle wants to do. I’m about halfway through watching it and what’s interesting is how familiar so many of the people featured will be to blog readers.

Update: A tipster tells me this is the torrent. I’m not vouching for it. I haven’t downloaded it. Proceed at your own risk.

Update: All right, the torrent worked like a charm. When I first started downloading, there were something like eight people sharing. By the time I was done, it was 61. The movie will be all over the world in hours. Internet fee-vah!

Update: Click the thumbnail to see what the front page of LiveLeak looks like right now. They’re obviously willing to go to the mat to keep this online. Hats off.

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Update: LiveLeak speaks:

LiveLeak.com has a strict stance on remaining unbiased and allowing freedom of speech as so far as the law and our rules allow. There was no legal reason to refuse Geert Wilders the right to post his film (Fitna) on LiveLeak.com and it is not our place to censor people based on an emotive response. We in no way endorse Geert Wilders, his views, nor the views expressed within Fitna. To many of us involved in LiveLeak.com some of the messages therein are personally offensive. That being said, our being offended is no reason to deny Mr Wilders the right to have his film seen. Pre-emptive censorship or a discriminatory policy towards freedom of speech are both things we oppose here on LiveLeak.com. A person has a simple, clear choice about whether to view this film. No one is being forced to view it and nor is it being broadcasted on every channel on their television set. If you click on media simply to be annoyed, it is pointless to blame others for your choice.

We do not intend on defending the content of Fitna, only our choice to allow it. Anyone has the full right of reply on LiveLeak.com. Any person or organizations are free to post their opinion and, dependent on said response falling within both the law and our rules, we will afford such responses equal exposure. There are undoubtedly better ways to spark a discussion but this film is now out there and we believe we should all grasp this opportunity to create an open dialogue and discussion on this subject.

Update: At least one Dutch Muslim leader is underwhelmed.

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It’s also available on YouTube. 210 there views so far.

amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 5:52 PM

It’s been removed.

29Victor on March 27, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Is any one really surprised that dhimmis around the world will hide the truth. This video needs to be shown on public airwaves all over the western world. I cannot believe there are still people naive enough to think diplomacy will get you anywhere with these animals.

jwp1964 on March 27, 2008 at 10:31 PM

I thought it was well done, not the screaming hate-mongering we had been led to believe it would be. He quotes the Koran, quotes modern Muslim leaders (on video no less) and shows some of the atrocities that have been committed in the name of, and to the worldwide celebration of, Muslims.

Too bad he got the wrong guy in that one picture. That is really going to hurt himn in his wallet and his credibility.

Lancer on March 27, 2008 at 10:32 PM

As soon as it was put up this morning, I immediately downloaded a copy if anyone’s interested.

cdn.infidel on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Too bad he got the wrong guy in that one picture. That is really going to hurt himn in his wallet and his credibility.

Lancer on March 27, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Yeah, it is. But you’ve got to admit that the rapper is a dead ringer for the terrorist. Something like this, you’ve got to get every bit of it right.

On the other hand, maybe it will expand and extend the exposure the film gets, which would be a good thing.

techno_barbarian on March 27, 2008 at 10:37 PM

That was almost a yawner. And there were death threats over that?

I would think that the Islamist would use that asa recruitment video, it adds nothing to what is already known, and most the world still seems to not care about, and this wont change their thoughts.

WoosterOh on March 27, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I think it’s more like containment, which was Harry Truman’s (and succeeding Presidents’) response to the threat of Soviet Communism.

That’s exactly right. The goal is to isolate Islam from the rest of the world (or at the very least, the West) not isolate ourselves.

Separationism is also not opposed to military action, so it can’t be labeled isolationist. But what it is opposed to are long-term occupations and democracy-building projects, simply because they don’t work — especially when applied to the Islamic condition. It would be far more beneficial and cost effective to simply drop bombs on these Middle East/south Asian countries whenever they’re taken over by overtly anti-American Islamic regimes than to continue to occupy them for years and years on end.

2Brave2Bscared on March 27, 2008 at 10:44 PM

The only way to win against Islam is to remove the qualifiers people feel forced to use in front of the word Islam.

It’s Islam. Period. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim and until people stop trying to qualify it so they won’t seem like bigots there is no hope for any of us. Islam will win.

Why is it that any hint of white supremacism is enough for even educated people to spend more time criticizing someone for some connection they may have to some group somewhere that may have at some time used some symbol that once represented white supremacy 50 years ago is enough to make them shun that person, but Muslims deserve the benefit of the doubt?

They don’t.

Jaynie59 on March 27, 2008 at 10:46 PM

No matter how many times I see the 9/11 footage of those planes crashing into the Twin Towers, a sickening shutter of terror shoots through my spine.

Wilders’ film is the most sobering piece of video I’ve seen since AP linked to the footage of that 12-year-old Taliban boy beheading a hostage.

Islam is a misguided religion, and these islamic radicals are evil incarnate and cannot be reasoned with. I’m amazed that some of our leaders choose to remain ignorant to this fact.

The willful suspension of disbelief, indeed.

Johnny C. on March 27, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Speaking of youtube. . . Whenever I get freaked out about the possibility of these Islamists getting too big for their britches, I just watch this a couple of times and I’m good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg

Bring it on Mohammed. We’ll set abou’ ye.

smellthecoffee on March 27, 2008 at 10:50 PM

With all the talk about killing gays, when I served in KSA I was under the understanding that they could be gay till like age 35, or something like that, and then they had to chose. There were men holding hands walking down the streets, so I guess I dont get it, or is it that there really is some nuts out there that are pushing radical Islam?

WoosterOh on March 27, 2008 at 10:58 PM

I’m not a neo-con,I am Canadian.

To me it looks like the first shot and breakout will occur
in the Netherlands,followed by Europe.And it will happen in
our lifetime!

World War two will repeat itself again I’m afraid, and again
the Netherlands will have to be liberated.You don’t have to
be a rocket scientist to look at the bar graphs of the
population increases to figure out that the increases are no
accident!

This Allah is opposite of Jesus,Allah preaches hate and death,in World war two at least the Germans were a bit sense
able,yes they followed a code of conduct of the military!

The Islamofashist’s are driven by pure hate,thier God Allah
is Hitler,plain and simple.The jihadys have no code of conduct,only the conduct of beheading!

Through the course of history,in the beginning Persia was
a society like any other,than it turned into a murderous
and sick society,and through history they’ve tried to take
over the world,again and again!

But,I believe this time something is different,Allah,the
Koran are in the 3rd century,but now for the first time they
have the ability to reach out and touch everyone everywhere!

That something different is,for the first time their ability
to unharness the atom.They will build,stock pile and use it.
They don’t care if they take 50,or 500 milliom muslims lifes
in the process,there is a reason for their hell-bent approach to obtaining nuclear power.

This is real,its going to happen,judge there intent,
“Death to Israel”,”Death to America”,and then judge
their capabilities,they want to be in the Nuclear Business!
Any questions!

canopfor on March 27, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Great film. I’d avoided the videos of the beheadings, it was as bad as I’d envisioned.
This is something everyone needs to see, whether or not they know much about it or believe it.
I’m off to send the links to people I know.

4shoes on March 27, 2008 at 11:20 PM

WOW.

Ugly on March 27, 2008 at 11:33 PM

The film was okay, but after all the hype it wasn’t anything we haven’t seen before (The footage of the 12 year old hacking the head off his prisoner might have had an impact). Unfortunately most people have no clue of the truth of Islam. Maybe the publicity will awaken those who are not aware.

gzelmiami on March 27, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Dutch Muslims React to Fitna: That was Nothing…..

I agree, it was pretty weak. Then again, we’ve seen this stuff a thousand times before. Still though, it would be refreshing to hear Muslims denounce what they saw in the film….

There’s no reason to riot, the Muslims that would be doing the rioting are the same Muslims who watched Fitna and felt nothing but pride and fulfillment.

Barbarians in the midst.

Speakup on March 27, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Is ‘Fitna’ Dutch for ‘boring as hell’? All the hype and controversy over THIS? What a letdown.

Bill Brasky on March 27, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Is ‘Fitna’ Dutch for ‘boring as hell’? All the hype and controversy over THIS? What a letdown.

Bill Brasky on March 27, 2008 at 11:52 PM

What were you expecting?

Ugly on March 28, 2008 at 12:01 AM

right2bright is right. The liberals don’t see it and I don’t understand that. They have always talked about how scary the religious right is here in this country, yet they see nothing wrong with the radical Islam that we fight???

Say what you will about Bush, but he understands it.

Rightwingsparkle on March 27, 2008 at 6:51 PM

so does mccain. and romney.

homesickamerican on March 28, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Bill Brasky on March 27, 2008 at 11:52 PM

Shut up.

2Brave2Bscared on March 28, 2008 at 12:19 AM

right2bright is right. The liberals don’t see it and I don’t understand that. They have always talked about how scary the religious right is here in this country, yet they see nothing wrong with the radical Islam that we fight???

Say what you will about Bush, but he understands it.

Rightwingsparkle on March 27, 2008 at 6:51 PM

so does mccain. and romney.

homesickamerican on March 28, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Do you two have any idea how ironic you sound? Here you are criticizing the liberals for not “getting it” when you yourselves clearly don’t get it. Maddening.

2Brave2Bscared on March 28, 2008 at 12:22 AM

One thing can be said: since ith iception of the net, it will be hard to supress anything.

Johan Klaus on March 28, 2008 at 12:25 AM

Inception

Johan Klaus on March 28, 2008 at 12:38 AM

The only way to win against Islam is to remove the qualifiers people feel forced to use in front of the word Islam.

Jaynie59 on March 27, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Connie on March 28, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Closing line:

“Defend your Freedom”

What do you think the United States is doing all over the world today, and these As*-Hats condem us for it?

Finally, someone connects the “dots” like our esteemed 9/11 Commission wanted our intelligence community to do before Sept. 10, and what is the liberal response to this film…..

“Don’t offend…”

I say this again, neither Billary, Barack, nor McCain truly know our enemy, or else the gloves would have come off a long time ago…..

Seven Percent Solution on March 28, 2008 at 1:37 AM

I am sticking with the show instead of the manga ( I did cheat to see if Ichigo beat #6). I watched the entire series in about 3 weeks. I’m going to wait until the end of the year and catch up with a string of new episodes.

Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 9:04 PM

Are you talking about the recent fight or the old one?
Do you watch it in English or in Japanese with English Subtitles?

I just download and watch and read each episode each week. >:D
I can’t wait… (If i have to be addicted to something at least it’s something that can’t hurt me) :|

Chakra Hammer on March 28, 2008 at 1:55 AM

What do you think the United States is doing all over the world today, and these As*-Hats condem us for it?

It depends where. In Iraq, the US has converted a secular dictatorship into a heaven for radical islamists.

freevillage on March 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM

Thanks Allahpundit for the tip about the torrent – I downloaded the torrent and left my computer on all night to help folks out. Yeah, Fitna is just putting into video blogs like yours and Atlas Shrugs – but hey, it’s one more tool in the toolbox.

HotAirJosef on March 28, 2008 at 7:51 AM

Just saw the movie. Didn’t find it too bad. Anyone can put a video together about religion,take quotes and match them up with violent scenes. The thing I thought was sad, was listening to the so called teachers of Islam and their hate speech. I’ am sure there will be some violence about this. They say Islam is a religion of peace but everytime they try to defend their belief, violence occurs.

menoname on March 28, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Fitna back up on You Tube.

Swinehound on March 28, 2008 at 9:04 AM

It depends where. In Iraq, the US has converted a secular dictatorship into a heaven for radical islamists.

freevillage on March 28, 2008 at 7:50 AM

WTF are you talking about? Irag is in no way a heaven for radical islamist. We intentionally deposed a radical dictator that was aiding and abetting terrorist and terrorist states while oppressing his own people. We now have a centrally located base to fight radical islam and terrorist states with a geographical location suited for that purpose. Terrorist are being killed by the dozens and you don’t think that is a good thing? Troll!!

brtex on March 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM

brtex on March 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Amen.

The Pig Dog.

Swinehound on March 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM

Links to viewing/downloading FITNA:

download here: http://cdn.liveleak.com/16/media16/2008/Mar/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

Torrent: http://www.mininova.org/tor/1275560

RapidShare (English): http://rs34.rapidshare.com/files/102852229/LiveLeak-dot-com-197196-9896.flv

FITNA via Google video

According to Klein Verzet, Geert Wilders is asking for financial support for FITNA’s distribution:
Most people don’t realize it, but reaching a global audience on the Internet is quite expensive. If you reach millions of people, you also have many millions of page hits and as a result many terabytes of bandwidth to buy from you’re hosting company.
That’s might not be something Wilders has realized when he made his initial plans for Fitna. He was after all planning a small film for a Dutch audience to be broad casted on Dutch national television. But after the Dutch government called for a ban and no Dutch broadcaster wanted to broadcast it, he decided to go the internet way. And as it now has become a global hype with a global audience, this means he now needs money to pay for the global distribution. The film, he today repeated in the media, will be released before the 1st of April and asks on his website http://www.geertwilders.nl for donations:

To our international friends:

Please support our struggle. The battle for the survival of freedom is not something we can do all by ourselves. Party for Freedom (PVV) is the only political party in Dutch Parliament that refuses government subsidy. Therefore, we are dependent on your support. We need your help urgently, as costs are mounting. Freedom isn’t free.
You can use the Paypal application under “DONEER” of you can make a contribution to:

Stichting Vrienden van de PVV (Foundation Friends of PVV), in The Hague, the Netherlands.
Bank account 67.04.72.344
IBAN: NL98 INGB 0670 4723 44 – BIC: INGBNL2A

It’s hard to say how much money he needs for the distribution for his film. It all depends on how many people are going to view it and how the Film will be distributed. But even if it’s possible to release Fitna with the help of video providers like Youtube or Liveleak, it will still cost quite some money only to have a website announcing it. After the release many millions will directly want to visit the website and thus the website needs expensive dedicated and high-performance hardware to serve those many millions of people. This will not come cheap.
If Geert Wilders doesn’t decide against advertisements on the Fitna website, he has however a good opportunity to cover a part of the cost. Adding some Adsense advertisements and/or Amazon affiliate advertisements is quite easy and will at least earn him thousand dollars per million visitors.
Cost will however rise astronomically if Fitna can’t be distributed with the help of video services like Youtube or Liveleak. To show a video stream of 15 minutes to millions of people will result in many hundreds of terabytes of traffic. Bumping Fitna’s release cost in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Let’s make sure Fitna will get released and be easily accessible to everybody. Please do a small donation in support of freedom of speech

ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND LINKS:

Daily update on casualties due to global Islamic Jihad since 9/11

A graphic illustration of History of Religion . . .

The geography of faith and its wars across history – 5,000 yrs. in 90 seconds.

HISTORY OF JIHAD

The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)

The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)

The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)

The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians – modern Sudanese (650)

The Jihad against pagan Berbers – North Africans (650 to 700)

The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)

The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)

The Jihad against Franks – modern French (720 to 732)

The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)

The Jihad against Chinese (751)

The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)

The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)

The Crusade against Jihad (1096 – 1291 ongoing)

The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)

The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)

The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)

The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)

The Jihad against Romania (1350 to 1699)

The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)

The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)

The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)

The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)

The Jihad against Albania (1332 – 1853)

The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)

The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)

The Jihad against Austrians (1683)

Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)

The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)

The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)

The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Germans (1945 onwards)

The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)

The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)

The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)

The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)

The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)

The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)

The Global Jihad today (2001 – ongoing)

The War on Terror against Jihad today (2001– ongoing)
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UK video: Dispatches: Undercover Mosque
Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 1

Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 2

Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 3

Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 4

Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 5

Dispatches: Undercover Mosque, Part 6

Video infiltrating Chech mosques: I, a Muslim

Remembering Beslan”

Video, SUBMISSION, Theo Van Gogh/Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Video, Islam: What The West Needs To Know

OBSESSION, THE MOVIE

video,Pat Condell, Appeasing Islam Condell was quoted in the film, FITNA

“Saudi Publications on Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques” PDF report

CAIR . . .The Washington, D.C.-based organization purports to be a “leading advocate for justice and mutual understanding” and claims to speak for the majority of American Muslims. However, after a careful review of the history, activities, statements, and causes of and by CAIR, it seems that its primary goals are to silence and de-legitimize its critics

To read Part 1 of CAIR Exposed: click here.

For Part 2 on CAIR’s Funding, click here.

For Part 3 on “The Suspect Ties of CAIR Officials, Fundraisers and Trainers,” click here.

For Part 4, “CAIR and Hamas,” click here.

Atlas Shrugs has a great post up with links to the Islamisation status of individual countries for 2007.

heroyalwhyness on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Could always use Dogpile. They weren’t afraid to celebrate the 4th of July.

Asher on March 27, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Thanks! Made the switch, it took about two seconds. See ya, Google!

RushBaby on March 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM

This is only as offensive as ObamaX’s pastor clips. This is just actual clips of people that hate America.

faraway on March 28, 2008 at 11:25 AM

heroyalwhyness on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM

The world; eyes [not] wide open!

Johan Klaus on March 28, 2008 at 11:26 AM

This is somewhat difficult for me.
There are pages and verses of hate in the old testament as well as in the Koran.

Again I’m afraid what we are seeing is a very small VERY VERY vocal minority that needs to be dealt with and absolutely crushed. I don’t really feel like we have to damn a whole religion for some verses and a small minority.

On the other side of the coin I will say…I would like to get firs hand information on this and visit the countries in which this behavior is going on…

and even FURTHER::: It would be nice if what I am calling the “Majority” of muslims were more vocal against this. I am incredibly vocal against the Westboro Baptist church. They are not christian in any way shape or form, but base their views on a few hateful verses in the bible, much like these jihadists base their views on a few hateful verses in the Koran.

I don’t know, this is a complex issue for me. I’d love to really be able to come down hard on one side, but I just can’t….except for the fact the the mainstream muslim community really needs to do more to distance themselves from this minority.

beefytee on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM

heroyalwhyness on March 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Wow, thanks so much. I look forward to going through that. Very useful.

Canadian Infidel on March 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM

LiveLeak Views[english]: 3,291,470

bnelson44 on March 28, 2008 at 12:28 PM

beefytee on March 28, 2008 at 11:57 AM
There are pages and verses of hate in the old testament as well as in the Koran.

Please bring some to the forefront here.
Look thru these if you really want a better perspective of the violence preached by islam, not just 1300 years ago , but for all time.
Blogging the Koran. Here is the archive for the series on the Koran published every weekend by Robert Spencer.
If you’re serious.

shooter on March 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Thanks shooter. At work now, so I can’t really be doing bible or Koran research, but I’ll get in her this weekend.

beefytee on March 28, 2008 at 12:40 PM

WATCH THIS VIDEO NEXT

It’s the “scholar’s version” if you will, and drives the point home with a lot more detail and perspective.

yonaton on March 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Is any one really surprised that dhimmis around the world will hide the truth. This video needs to be shown on public airwaves all over the western world. I cannot believe there are still people naive enough to think diplomacy will get you anywhere with these animals.
jwp1964 on March 27, 2008 at 10:31 PM

If 9-11 wasn’t enough to get the dhimmis to wake up then nothing short of a mushroom cloud over one of our cities that kills millions will finally wake the dhimmis, apologists, liberal left, give appeasement a chance crowd, or the Obama-bots that think we can somehow “talk” or “negotiate” with such a violent and hateful fascist ideology.

Here’s a comment I posted earlier related to this very issue:

Absolutely it should be a wake-up call, as others have mentioned not much new in the video to describe what fascist Islam is all about and what their ultimate goals are, but unfortunately I do not see those that have had their heads buried in the sand (or up their arses) since and before 9-11 will suddenly wake from their fear/ignorance induced denial.

At best they will continue to turn a blind eye to the reality of our situation (again out of fear or ignorance) and continue to live in denial. At worse they will continue to cloud this important issue (our very survival) with their constant memes on such powerful information as this video presents as being nothing more than “hate mongering” “politics of fear” “Islamo-phobia” “racist” or one of the many other false labels they apply in order to continue to live in denial and/or impede our ability to fight the very real threat that Islamic fascism presents. No, instead they will continue to do all in their power to deny reality out of their fear and/or ignorance and they do so not only at their own peril but at ours as well!

Liberty or Death on March 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Liberty or Death on March 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM

I’m all for crushing Fascist Islam…not so much with everyday Muslims. I don’t think that’s unreasonable

beefytee on March 28, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Everyday Muslims commit honor killings. Everyday Muslims in Colorado kept a slave and when the man (who’d also raped the girl) was convicted, he declared that he was just following his religion.

I watched a man dressed in shorts and a tank top walk through a crowded amusement park with his (I guess) wife trailing behind him in full suffocating burka. The temperature was 104 F. If I dressed a dog like that on a day that hot, I’d be arrested for animal cruelty.

Fitna just shows the outrageous moments, the war mongers of Islam if you will. What I’d like to see is the everyday outrages — the forced marriages, the women with busted cheekbones, the sodomy of young boys, the genital mutilation — that happens casually, every day, with “Everyday Muslims.”

bonnie_ on March 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM

the sodomy of young boys, the genital mutilation — that happens casually, every day, with “Everyday Muslims.”

Except in Iran…that doesn’t happen in Iran.

beefytee on March 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM

So in response to a false accusation of Islam being inherently hostile to Holland and West, Pakistani Muslims went on the street holding signs that said: “No, we really are a religion of peace. You misrepresent our Holy BooDown with Holland! Down with West.”

Exit question: What is it called when protesters don’t realize they have become a support group?

freevillage on March 28, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Crap. The strike tag didn’t work. Hope it’s obvious where it should have been.

freevillage on March 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I have written a half dozen comments to post here and each time I finish, I read it and think,”What’s the use, there is no common sense left in this country”. If, after seeing this film, you still think the problem lies with a few radical extremists and not with the fundamental ideas of the religion itself, then you deserve to have your head handed to you. As for me, well I am going to shoot first and let Allah decide which ones are good and which are bad. I have news for those of you that think I am a typical right winger, I happen to be of Middle Eastern descent but more than that I am an American and I still am proud of what that means!

insideout on March 28, 2008 at 4:12 PM

LiveLeak like everyone else removed Fitna from their servers.

Here is what they say on their front page:
“Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, and some ill informed reports from certain corners of the British media that could directly lead to the harm of some of our staff, Liveleak.com has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers.
This is a sad day for freedom of speech on the net but we have to place the safety and well being of our staff above all else. We would like to thank the thousands of people, from all backgrounds and religions, who gave us their support. They realised LiveLeak.com is a vehicle for many opinions and not just for the support of one.
Perhaps there is still hope that this situation may produce a discussion that could benefit and educate all of us as to how we can accept one anothers culture.
We stood for what we believe in, the ability to be heard, but in the end the price was too high.”

ketket on March 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Just went to Live Leak, They pulled the video because of death treats and other issues.

CTB1954 on March 28, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Wow, LiveLeak caved. I was going to watch it but I guess I will have to grab it via bit torrent when I get home.

zerodamage on March 28, 2008 at 4:37 PM

The torrent link above didn’t work for me.

Here is one I found that works:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1277564

ketket on March 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Try This

pritzcovan on March 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Ace has a working link up. A brave blogger decided to post the thing regardless of LiveLeaks’ decision.

Here’s the link:

patdollard.com/2008/03/fitna-louies-copy-here-to-stay

It’s worth watching. It’s hard to watch. Very hard.

But worth it.

I can’t remember how many times I’ve argued that they should be showing 9/11 footage every day to remind us of what we face. But I really, really had trouble watching some of the footage.

But it’s truth. And we can’t forget.

Professor Blather on March 28, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Make that impossible to watch. Or even listen to. The audio I just heard will give me nightmares.

I can’t even finish it.

Professor Blather on March 28, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Try this site.

http://liveprayer.com/fitna.cfm

Sanjoboy on March 29, 2008 at 2:57 PM

this torrent works {I know because i am seeding right now }
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4102738/Fitna_the_movie_-_English_-_AVI_and_FLV_format
i have already seeded close to 3 gigs so far and i will seeding it all of next week non stop .

I will not surrender/I will not submit.

Mojack420 on March 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM

WATCH THIS VIDEO NEXT

It’s the “scholar’s version” if you will, and drives the point home with a lot more detail and perspective.

yonaton on March 28, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Truly educational, now if only our elected leaders will understand the true nature and face of those that want to kill us……

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2008 at 9:14 PM

FITNA back up, new version too.

HotAirJosef on April 6, 2008 at 5:48 PM

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