Too bad to check: McCain blocked House border enforcement bill?
posted at 2:18 pm on March 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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What? No, no, he’s … learned his lesson. He gets it now. He’s an enforcer. He wouldn’t let us down again, not after those very sincere compliments he paid us at CPAC.
Would he?
U.S. Rep. Heath Shuler says he believes Republican presidential candidate John McCain blocked his immigration bill from getting a vote on the U.S. House floor. McCain’s staff denies it.
The Waynesville Democrat spoke to the Rotary Club of Hendersonville on Tuesday. He said the Republican leadership tried to bring the Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act to the House floor. They used a provision of House rules called a discharge petition, in which a simple majority can bring to the floor a bill that is stuck in committee.
The petition had 181 of the 217 signatures needed to force a vote on the bill…
McCain, a U.S. senator from Arizona, called Republicans in Congress and asked them not to sign the petition, Shuler said. He said after McCain’s intervention, Republicans in the House were less willing to sign onto the bill.
Team Maverick denies it. Whom to believe here, Captain Amnesty or a guy from the other side who could very well have ginned this up as a way of kneecapping the GOP nominee among his base on an issue in which he already has zero credibility? If Shuler’s telling the truth, how come none of the border enforcers among the House GOP who surely would have gotten wind of McCain’s meddling have leaked this anonymously to the media? Granted, it’s an election season and party discipline is higher than normal, but loyalty to the nominee for some of these guys will come second to loyalty to the cause.
On the other hand, the last thing McCain wants is to have to vote on this himself. If he votes yes, he alienates the Latinos he’s counting on in purple states to beat Obama; if he votes no, SECOND LOOK AT STAYING HOME! He can’t skip the vote either as it’ll look too weaselly so the natural thing to do is to try to kill it in the House before it squeaks through and becomes his problem. Exit question one: Isn’t the likeliest scenario that some other power player called around on McCain’s behalf, semi-secretly to keep his fingerprints off of it? Exit question two: What would Juan Hernandez say?
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This is the one issue that scares the bejesus out of me with McCain. The sincerity of his “I got the message” comment was simply not convincing. I live in Texas and the border issue is huge. If he gets elected and then fails to do anything about it there will be a Texas sized’ backlash the likes of which no one has seen.
cannonball on March 27, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Is Juan Hernandez still with Team McCain?
Kini on March 27, 2008 at 2:23 PM
That sounds accurate.
Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Has McCain been lying lessons from Clinton?
Kini on March 27, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Can you imagine the relief Pelosi felt when the immigration bill died in the Senate? She had to be petrified that she would have to face the bill in the House. McCain as well does not need the headache.
You’ve hit the nail on the head Allahpundit
Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 2:25 PM
I’m halfway inclined to think you actually enjoy this, AP…
Eh?
Ehhhhhhh???
Hoodlumman on March 27, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Just listen to McCain’s speech from yesterday… he still does not get it.
Romeo13 on March 27, 2008 at 2:26 PM
The illegal issue is the most important one to me. I do not for one minute believe McCain will do anything about it. Never has, never will.
L
letget on March 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM
… I’m going to go suck my thumb and pretend this is a fake out to mess with the leftists.
Damned Straight Talk, can’t even not screw us when he’s supposed to be courtin’ our pretty conservative pro-border enforcement rears.
NeoconNews.com on March 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM
How did we wonderful Republicans get saddled with this frankly lunatic POS?
TexasJew on March 27, 2008 at 2:27 PM
With all due respect regarding his military service, I am having serious doubts about his intelligence. He should be a champion for this bill after the shamnesty debacle. I long for the day there is a politician who actually works for the people of this country instead of their own interests.
Les in NC on March 27, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Why is he still on the frickin’ campaign?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 27, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Couldn’t.
Care.
Less.
rightwingprof on March 27, 2008 at 2:30 PM
McCain would totally do this. There will be all kinds of bumping of bills this year. I’m telling you, they are all going to try to avoid the issue until after December 31!! The Hutchinson Amendment screwed the Secure Fence Act. As I posted on another thread from an email I received from grassfire.org (emphasis mine):
Please sign this petition to tell Congress to restore the Secure Fence Act!!!
Luckily Duncan Hunter is working on this. Now we need to show we still give a crap and support his efforts.
NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM
“Captain Amnesty”?
*in best Marge Simpson voice* “Mmmmmmmm…”
I’ll say this: There’s NO WAY McCain kept this bill from coming to a vote. And there’s nothing here that even remotely suggests that, except what one person is saying.
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 2:31 PM
The Constitution Party selects their candidate in April. If there isn’t an obvious act by Mr. McAARP to get real about border enforcement (i.e., get rid of Juan Hernandez), I WILL VOTE FOR THE CONSTITUTION PARTY CANDIDATE.
Dammmmm the consequences. This story might be surfacing at just the right time to show true conservatives which side Jn. McAARP (Depends Poster Boy) is really on.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:32 PM
He’s not, really…
I’m certainly no fan of Juan Hernadez, and would like more than anything for him to just go away. But he’s an unpaid volunteer…Not making excuses, but he’s not “on the campaign”.
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 2:33 PM
YOU
WILL
WHEN
YOU
HAVE
NO
EMERGENCY
ROOM
TO
GO
TO
WHEN
AN
ILLEGAL
ALIEN
INJURES
YOU
IN
A
CAR
ACCIDENT
!!!!
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Neither will Hillary/Obama. On this item we’re scrooomed royally. However, there are differences on other complex and consequential topics. Use your heads clearly. This is a very precarious time for our country. Please don’t put blinders on, or remove them if you’ve got them.
What needs to be hammered more than the border, on immigration, is the legal employment of personnel, professional, technical and unskilled. These laws exist and are broken every second, many times over. The border can never be completely secure. The existing laws s/b respected by those we vote for.
Entelechy on March 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM
Our convention hasn’t happened yet. If this comes out as accurate, McCain may yet have to give up his assumed nomination. Maybe it isn’t the Dems who will have the biggest Convention fight.
leftnomore on March 27, 2008 at 2:36 PM
What the hell are you talking about, with Obama in the White House we’ll have an Emergency Room in every public building in the Country.
ChrisM on March 27, 2008 at 2:37 PM
POR FAVOR - give me a glimmer of hope.!!! What possible scenario (other than brain damaging stroke) could prevent the nomination of Old Man Johnny.
I would do anything to have almost anyone but McAARP.
Is anyone here following the Constitution Party’s convention?
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:40 PM
You mean, beyond him being a HUGE amnesty supporter and it sounds exactly like something he would do?
Darksean on March 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Yes, but can they speak English?
We are facing MAJOR shut-downs of ERs in the next 2 yrs. It is going to be a disaster !
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Is it possible for a Republican candidate to win the general election exclusively with the votes of pissed of democrat voters? Republicans stay home, Democrats vote republican and the Republican wins? Could this be an actual possibility here?
Zetterson on March 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I WISH!
McAmnesty will do exactly what he intended to do the first time around. He is not beholden to the Republicans who vote for him…he will thank the libs and independants that cross the aisle and vote for him, by increasing THEIR voting base with an Amnesty bill.
ihasurnominashun on March 27, 2008 at 2:43 PM
I know this is Senor Juan McShamesty thread. But really, who’s dumber: Nancy “Too Much Botox” Pelosi or Heath “I took too many hits to the head” Shuler? How do these morons, Cindy “He’s My Husband Now Invalid” Hennessey McVain’s Hubby included, get elected? Of course I am in John Lewis district so maybe I am just projecting. ahahahahaha
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 2:44 PM
If the Constitution Party put up a really good candidate, the Dems end up as divided as they are now,,,, I could see a “third” party candidate winning.
Not easy, but wouldn’t it be GREAT - to have Johnny Boy lose like that !!!!!
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:44 PM
That Juan is such a
cranky weird conniving old fartlovable little rascal.MB4 on March 27, 2008 at 2:44 PM
McCain is supposed to have such national security credentials, but the shmuck is to stupid to see the invasion taking place right before his lying eyes, much lees do anything about it.
Yes, they are all God’s children, but so are all the thieves and murderers in prison. Patriot or Traitor?
I will not vote for that back stabbing, lying, pandering, cheater rewarding, asleep at the switch, liberal, Ted Kennedy loving pinko.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Awesome
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Is Bill still with team Hillary?
MB4 on March 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM
If Shuler’s telling the truth, how come none of the border enforcers among the House GOP who surely would have gotten wind of McCain’s meddling have leaked this anonymously to the media?
Precisely. It’s hard to believe that McCain talked to members individually and he wouldn’t have issued a denial if he sent the request to all of them because it would come out that his denial was a lie.
Buddahpundit on March 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM
I FEEL your frustration - I’m there with you.
I am so seriously not going to vote for McAARP if he doesn’t dump Hernandez. I think there are many others who feel the same.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Are you serious? Because it “sounds like something he would do”?
*sigh* I honestly wish my fellow conservatives would truly define what “amnesty” is. I figure y’all see “amnesty” as anything short of immediate deportment of any illegal caught for any reason. It would have to mean that.
Maybe that’s it….maybe that’s what I don’t quite understand: What is “amnesty”?
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Sounds good to me.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I have definitely made up my mind to write in a candidate this year. I am not voting for this bastard. Nor am I going to vote for the others. Its settled.
Zetterson on March 27, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Me 3?!
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM
You do realize that Amnesty already has a definition? Don’t you?
Zetterson on March 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM
If McCain wants to get out in front of this, he’d better get his arse in front of a camera and deny it PERSONALLY, rather than letting an easily discardable flunky do it for him. Until then, I believe Shuler.
fossten on March 27, 2008 at 2:54 PM
That’s just it…I’ve seen a whole variety of definitions for “amnesty”. What I haven’t seen yet is why so many people see McCain as some sort of “pro-amnesty” guy. Yes…something needs to be done about people here illegally. But we need to be realists about it too. And, look at short-term and long-term ramifications of deporting millions of people.
And again…deporting even one person, without securing the borders first, is futile. And also…most illegals I have known (through work and such) didn’t sneak in across the border…they overstayed their visas.
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 2:55 PM
What part of that answer do you not understand? Anything less IS amnesty. No quotation marks on amnesty….
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Amnesty is any form of reward for the cheating, stealing, lying law breakers that spit in the face of our country’s immigration laws.
I think once they have proven they are law breaking cheaters, they should never be allowed to be US citizens and should be deported at once if cought.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Can we now secure our borders?
McCain:
Seven Percent Solution on March 27, 2008 at 2:59 PM
John, ju no I will neber get busy wit you tonight if you go sign dat bill, my friend. Ju want I still be jur friend? Jur berry special friend? Den ju no sign, k?
Ok Juan, you are my special friend.
Geronimo on March 27, 2008 at 2:59 PM
It’s pretty bad when a moderate Democrat is more honest than the presumptive GOP nominee but that’s where we are. McCain is right up there with Clinton when it comes to lying to the public. We are so screwed no matter how the election comes out- A racist, a liar, or an even bigger liar who detests his own base. Nobody wins in November!
Congratulations, once again, all you smug liberal Republicans who decided retribution against social conservatives and evangelicals was more important than fielding a candidate that doesn’t routinely tell the most important part of his base to f**k off. You McCain apologists should be ashamed of yourselves.
highhopes on March 27, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Until McCain absolutely says he will slam the door on illegal immigration with fences and more armed border enforcement, I will not vote for him. The only question for me is whether I vote for the Democrat nominee. The only significant difference between McCain and Hillary/Obama, is McCain is committed to keeping Iraq free. Controlling our borders is more important to me.
doufree on March 27, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Before anyone gets too excited and picks up the pitchforks, please keep something in mind here. The only one telling us this is a single House Democrat. Team McCain isn’t ignoring it, but actually denies it.
And we haven’t heard from Tancredo.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Mega Peaches Dittos Highhopes. Hold onto your wallet for the next four years!
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Overstaying visas is just as evil as sneaking across the border. Either you have the character to follow the rules, or you don’t. Black and white.
If you are a cheater that refuses to follow our rules, your ass should be gone. If some shmuck comes through my front door without my permission, and it is not a legitimate emergency, I will show no mercy.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:05 PM
I haven’t read all the comments, so if someone else has raised this point then please forgive the redundancy; whether or not the description of what happened is true, this portion I quoted from the article above shows why some of us “deranged” people can actually envision a scenario in which a McCain presidency would actually sell us down the river faster. Once “our guy” claims what he wants, our party will just fall in line with him. But, it really doesn’t matter does it? He’s “our guy” and we’re stuck with the “Mav.”
Weight of Glory on March 27, 2008 at 3:06 PM
To them it’s all about a $10,000,000,000.00 per month war. Nothing else matters. Who cares if our country is being invaded by Mexico??? Who cares if we pay $10 (or more) a gallon for gas?? Who cares if our national debt is beyond the imagination??? Who cares if Social Security is hopelessly bankrupt??? Who cares if our economy is in the toilet???? Gotta continue that $10,000,000,000.00/per month war.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:07 PM
It is very difficult to decide who NOT to believe as all the people in Washington, DC are human. Someone misspoke or was sleep deprived.
Wade on March 27, 2008 at 3:08 PM
The war on terror? Yes, we do have to continue it. Without fighting Islamic fascism, you won’t have to worry about $10 (sic) gas.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 3:09 PM
OK, now I’m getting it. (heh, sorry about the y’all [or ya’ll] I’m a Yankee to the core, what do I know)
Now that I have this straight…that by the comments above, “amnesty” (you’ll see why I use quotes in a bit) is anything short of immediate deportment of anyone here illegally. For any reason. And nothing else matters in regards to this…no hearings, no hardship, no taking account families. Like McCain once said, would YOU like to be the one to call a serviceman overseas, fighting for America, that we’ll be deporting his mother next week?
Then there’s the costs of all this deportment. The logistics. The economic ramifications.
No one, from either party, is going to be mass deporting anyone. I like to see the law enforced, as it is, as much as anyone. But it’s just not realistic.
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Yeah.
Want more examples? Teaming up with Feingold to curtail political speech.
Teaming up with Dhims and RINOS to keep judges from a straight up or down vote.
Calling anti-ILLEGAL immigrant conservatives racists.
Teaming up with Ted Kennedy (of all people!!), forcing an amnesty bill that the country doesn’t want down our throats.
Damn straight this is likely a Mcshamnesty move. You think its beyond McShamnesty to make some back-room deal to keep an actually half-way decent immigration bill from seeing the light of day???? Are you serious?
Amnesty is offering McShamnesty a bribe (currently called a “fine”) to stay in this country permanently without fear of recrimination or punishment for perpetually breaking our laws, giving only 24 hours to perform a background check on all 12 million ILLLEGAL aliens or else it won’t be needed anymore.
Darksean on March 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM
And again, it’s become “Everyone pile on McCain!” because of what…one Democratic Congressman claims and Team McCain denies.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM
I am ready to get the pitchforks right now. We are being invaded as we speak and our useless government is only making the problem worse. At least the $hitheads could shut down the freebe gravy train, but they are too useless to even do that.
They won’t be happy until the USA turns into a big Kosovo.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Imagine if we were
r instead of rolling it into our national debt. Which is worse, raising taxes (which, I don’t want) or throwing the cost of the war and Social Security and healtcare and education for illegals on to the next generation?
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:11 PM
The U.S. isn’t going to be Kosovo anytime soon. I’m just as anti-illegal alien as the rest, but I’m saying don’t jump on McCain automatically for this when it’s only a claim made by a single Democrat. Kucinich makes a lot of claims too, but I tend not to believe him.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM
U.S. Democrat Heath Shuler, and horrible Quarterback! >:D
Chakra Hammer on March 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Hmm, no hits on the homeland since 9/11/2001. Liberty and doesn’t come cheap. So a few more 9/11s would be preferable to you? If so, I know a great sand distributor out of Alabama who could supply you enough to keep your head buried until Sharia Law is enforced. A pissed off McVain in the senate is way more valuable then him in the Oval office. Unless he picks a true conservative as running mate and promises to play president for one day and resign and let the Veep be Pres…..
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Will you feel better when we “win”, turn it over to the Iraqis and it goes back to being what it was before? I don’t think we are going to change centuries of culture.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Jetboy, look into enforcement by attrition.
Cut off their reasons for staying and they’ll leave. Make it illegal to employ, house, or educate illegals and enforce it. Simple as that.
Actually ASK if someone is here legal and if they aren’t, DEPORT THEM.
From a security standpoint, its a no brainer. From a cost standpoint, he will break the US economy and eventually the welfare and social security systems.
But we’re just supposed to sit down and shut up, because McShamnesty’s the nominee, right?
Darksean on March 27, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Oh, btw…I am no liberal Republican. I’ve always been a conservative Republican. And not a “McCain aplogist”, just a McCain realist.
There’s a saying too: “American, Conservative, Republican…in that order.” And when putting America first, you have to support McCain.
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 3:15 PM
It isn’t only about establishing democracy there. We’re actually fighting Al Qaeda and other foreign jihadists. Our presence also keeps them from setting up a base of terror.
Quick question, do you favor withdrawal from Iraq?
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 3:15 PM
As you can see, the wounds haven’t healed. But hey, Johnny boy can win it without the Conservative Base. We’ll see.
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Voice of reason. Zetterson, my e-friend, internalize, please. Respectfully,
Entelechy on March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
From Article VI, Section 3 of the Constitution Of The Communist Party Of The United States Of America.
Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Unfortunately, McCain-derangement is alive and well…still…
JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
The illegals have proven that “Tough Love” is the only way to stop their lying cheating behavior.
They are law breakers, and giving them amnesty will flood the voting pool of the US with criminals. Then they can vote in more criminals and destroy the United States. It is that serious.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Do you really believe that NO TERRORISTS have come over the Mexican border?
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Getting the message is a little different than heeding the message…
D2Boston on March 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM
There are some really stupid people here with their heads up their a$$. The 1986 amnesty was a cattle call for more to come. Today ignorant peasants, tomorrow murderous terrorists.
We must control who comes into our country, or else.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:21 PM
From The Road to Socialism USA
Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM
OMG, O.K.??? Like, someone in this country might have to do some heavy lifting? How dare ask anyone to do his or her job.
Dude, you can get fined for not wearing a seatbelt as a primary offense and pay a substantial fine. Illegal aliens violate our sovereignty and your worried about family hardship. How about you post your home address and have them stay with you?
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Mass deportation strawmen being assembled…still.
Border and internal enforcement rather than amnesty( reward of citizenship for unlawful behavior), is what most are in favor of.
captivated_dem on March 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Would he rather call the service woman who LAST WEEK lost her son here in the USA because he was murdered by an ILLEGAL ALIEN?
stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Hmmm…
Folks need to check their facts…
Arizona is seeing people Deport themselves. We don’t have to round them up, most will do it to themselves if we no longer ENABLE them.
Romeo13 on March 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
You should be very careful what you ask for. Turning the US into a turd world country would be a distaster of epic proportion. And, like it or not, not all countries and cultures are equal.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
McCain still keeps skirting the federal government’s responsibility in securing the border in his rhetoric. He keeps saying, “I’ll have the border governor’s certify that the border is secure.” WTF does that mean exactly? Doesn’t sound like that’s the same as building the “g*d*mned fence”.
CP on March 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Do you have proof they have CARRIED OUT any attacks on the homeland since 9/11/2001?
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I see no reason to believe that “our” being in Iraq has prevented any 9/11’s.
MB4 on March 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM
…Sound much like Obama’s “More Perfect [Socialist] Union” speech?
…Do you realize that McCain, Clinton, and Obama all share the view of the Communist Party USA? The quote above is from: Multiracial, Multinational Unity for Full Equality and Against Racism—Core Forces for Progress
Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 3:33 PM
It’s time to vote for the Constitution Party candidate and send a message to the RNC and the idiots in this country who have put three idiots as frontrunners in the campaign. When the Democrat is elected and the country has been brought on the brink of socialism and bankruptcy, maybe then the people of this country will get it. Maybe then, they’ll pander to Americans instead of illegal invaders.
Alan Keyes is looking real good to me right now.
orlandocajun on March 27, 2008 at 3:35 PM
No alien landing either. Our boys are good
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Spectacularly daft.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Isn’t Shuler pretty solid on the whole amnesty thing? Hate to say it, but I’m inclined to believe the Democrat on this one. McCain has some serious explaining to do.
doubleplusundead on March 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Called McCain’s office and spoke with some snot-noised 20 something receptionist and asked if the office had issued any statement about Shuler’s allegation that McCain had worked “to block the SAFE Act from coming to a vote.”
The Guy said that I obviously didn’t know how Congress worked if I thought the Senator could “block’ house bills. I explained the details of the allegation and all he would say was “Well what would that accomplish?”
Quite a little prick.
No way in hell I’m voting for McCain.
Kasper Hauser on March 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens. That’s 21,900 since Sept. 11, 2001.
But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745. That’s [another] 23,725 since Sept. 11, 2001.
Could be that the 10 billion a month might be better spent in the U.S. instead of “nation building” in Iraq.
MB4 on March 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Celebrate the 5 votes he’ll get, including yours.
Entelechy on March 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM
So why haven’t they hit us when our military is not mainly homebound?
Maybe because they (al qaeda and friends) are getting walloped by coalition and Iraqi forces in Iraq?
We are achieving stability in Iraq and Liberals with the willing help of Paulbots disguised as humans disguised as Republicans disguised as conservatives want to humiliate GWB to make some bizarrao world point where we and the Iraqis would be f*d by now for several generations if GWB had not put our collective American foot down with our allies and armed forces.
And, now: BACK to YT with RuPaul Supporters!
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Well I guess that brilliant argument settles the question.
MB4 on March 27, 2008 at 3:43 PM
MB4, who’s your preferred candidate?
Entelechy on March 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM
I do. It’s the tens of thousands of dead terrorists who went to Iraq and were dispatched by the US armed forces. Potential Muhammad Attas these days are being wiped out - and now with the success of the surge, the wiping out is being done more and more by the elected government of Iraq. It’s very imperfect, but it’s hard to argue with the results.
vonspringer on March 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Ok, why has there been no scrutiny about McCain’s foreign policy speech from yesterday, except by MMalkin. It is extremely disturbing, and liberal as all get out! From global warming to gitmo, it could be given by Hillary or Obama, except for Iraq.
Where was this in the primaries? Hmmmmmm?
The guy is a pandering RINO and I am beginning to agree with Rush.
Starlink on March 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
No, because thanks to Senor Juan McCain and Co. we are fighting the additional war against the illegal aliens as well as Sharia Law-Loving Freaks. It’s not Constantinople anymore for a reason people.
We have to fight both, MB4.
Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM
No way I am either. I have been chastized for not blocking a democrat vote, but I don’t care. I refuse to compromise my standards. Continuing to hold my nose and vote for lousy republican candidates just encourages more lousy candidates. I would support a new consevative political party, but I fear too much of the American voting pool is too far gone. They want the Obamas and Hillarys of the world. I want the Teddy Roosevelts and John Waynes of the world.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 3:47 PM
You can count on it. You go ahead a vote the socialist of your choice. Then, you can celebrate the destruction of what’s left of what used to be America. Idiot.
orlandocajun on March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
So much for his conviction-trumps-politics “I would rather lose a campaign than lose a war” (July 21, 2007) postion.
This truly will be a history-making election. Forget the 1st woman / 1st black precedent. If McAmnesty wins it could very well be the first white man to win the office because there wasn’t even one decent candidate running.
NightmareOnKStreet on March 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
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