Too bad to check: McCain blocked House border enforcement bill?

posted at 2:18 pm on March 27, 2008 by Allahpundit

What? No, no, he’s … learned his lesson. He gets it now. He’s an enforcer. He wouldn’t let us down again, not after those very sincere compliments he paid us at CPAC.

Would he?

U.S. Rep. Heath Shuler says he believes Republican presidential candidate John McCain blocked his immigration bill from getting a vote on the U.S. House floor. McCain’s staff denies it.

The Waynesville Democrat spoke to the Rotary Club of Hendersonville on Tuesday. He said the Republican leadership tried to bring the Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement Act to the House floor. They used a provision of House rules called a discharge petition, in which a simple majority can bring to the floor a bill that is stuck in committee.

The petition had 181 of the 217 signatures needed to force a vote on the bill…

McCain, a U.S. senator from Arizona, called Republicans in Congress and asked them not to sign the petition, Shuler said. He said after McCain’s intervention, Republicans in the House were less willing to sign onto the bill.

Team Maverick denies it. Whom to believe here, Captain Amnesty or a guy from the other side who could very well have ginned this up as a way of kneecapping the GOP nominee among his base on an issue in which he already has zero credibility? If Shuler’s telling the truth, how come none of the border enforcers among the House GOP who surely would have gotten wind of McCain’s meddling have leaked this anonymously to the media? Granted, it’s an election season and party discipline is higher than normal, but loyalty to the nominee for some of these guys will come second to loyalty to the cause.

On the other hand, the last thing McCain wants is to have to vote on this himself. If he votes yes, he alienates the Latinos he’s counting on in purple states to beat Obama; if he votes no, SECOND LOOK AT STAYING HOME! He can’t skip the vote either as it’ll look too weaselly so the natural thing to do is to try to kill it in the House before it squeaks through and becomes his problem. Exit question one: Isn’t the likeliest scenario that some other power player called around on McCain’s behalf, semi-secretly to keep his fingerprints off of it? Exit question two: What would Juan Hernandez say?


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I hope U.S. Rep. Heath Shuler continues to push this issue and forces McCain to vote on it. There’s no better time to turn McCain’s words into deeds.

Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM

John the McGramnesty is hanging around 24/7 with the likes of Linsey Gramcrackers, one of the orginal betrayors of our sovereignty down on the broder. And lets not forget about Joey the Libertyman, who also has more compassion for the illegals than for the American taxpayer citizenry, then add in Juan the snakeoil Hernandez as an advisor to Johnny on this issue, which they will deny..and you will see Johnny is all smoke and mirrors when it comes to the issue of the broder, his advisors, I’ll repeat, Linsey, Joey, and Juan, 24/7, WAKEUPFOLKSITSALLOVER.

Legions on March 27, 2008 at 6:12 PM

I didn’t think “got burka” was particularly useful. And calling people Buffoon kind of hurts you.

stenwin77 on March 27, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Well, Buffoon if the name fits I’ll call you that and everyone can decide if it hurts my credibility or if accurately articulates your infantile-RuPaul-Bot view of the world.

Of course, Buffoon, you wouldn’t think “got burka” was in particular useful because you seem to hold isolationist views and don’t see the sharia law (footbaths at airports, hajibs at Harvard, etc.) coming right for you.

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 6:14 PM

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 6:16 PM

How about this…

Provide for the common deFENCE

Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 6:17 PM

(in my best “Fantasy Island” Tatoo voice):

deFENCE, boss, deFENCE!

Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Heath Shuler is one of the new blue dog democrats that were voted into office in 2006. His district is in western NC’s mountains, which doesn’t have a huge illegal immigration problem. It wouldn’t surprise me if Asheville (in his district) is a sanctuary city, though. Good for Shuler for calling McCain out on this…assuming it’s true of course.

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:19 PM

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Red Pill on March 27, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Your so old fashion. Wink ;)

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Your You’re so old fashion. Wink ;)

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 6:21 PM

If you actually care about the fence I hope you have edumacated yourselves enough to know that it will be legally thwarted after December 31st unless you effin’ DO SOMETHING!

Like sign this measley petition. It’s just a little somethin’ but it’s better than just a bunch of hot air on some internet blog. BE COUNTED as against the open border agenda.

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM

OK…by scanning all the replies above, I still have yet to be convinced that a President McCain will mean open borders, illegals murdering Americans, the welfare system brought to the breaking point, etc etc…as so many seem to think what will happen.

What hurts most is how some say “I won’t vote for McCain”…so WHO will you vote for? Stay home? Yeah…that’s nice.

And sorry…but anyone willing to let Obama or Hillary run this country for at least four years, simply to reinforce their own ideals of what conservatism is, is someone who’s willing to let America be flushed down the toilet.

I’m not willing to participate in that.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Shuler’s congressional district leans Republican, and he won in an upset in 2006, partially due to his name recognition and to overall discontent by core GOP voters. So Heath may be thinking that with either Hillary or Obama at the top of the ticket this fall, he needs to call an audible and scramble to the right in a hurry, to avoid problems from a potential GOP challenger for his seat, where Democratis turnout could be depressed (especially in North Carolina, if Hillary swindles Obama out of the nomination).

Even if his story is a tad embellished, calling out McCain on immigration reform isn’t a bad idea, since at worst he’ll be seen as making a bogus charge coming from the right of the pending Republican presidential nominee. That would only hurt him if he had a challenger looming in the upcoming N.C. Democratic primary.

jon1979 on March 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Interesting footnote: The guy he beat, Charles Taylor-R, missed the vote on NAFTA back in the 1990′s. I can’t remember why, but he said he would’ve vote NO, thus making it a tie vote.

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM

I’m not willing to participate in that.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM


Wow, you are so much better than those of us who won’t vote for McCain because of our principles.
Please sprinkle your fairy tale dust on us so we can live in ‘backstab world’ with you and Senor McVain without being bled to death. Thanks.

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 6:31 PM

I will, of course, still vote McCain over the Communists on the other side. It may sound inflammatory and alarmist to call Obama or Hillary Communists, but seriously, look at their mentors, look at who they are trying to emulate. I WISH McCarthy were still alive. We need him now more than ever.

But McCain’s just hoping we are too sleepy to realize he WON’T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE BORDER FENCE after December 31st. He won’t have to, legally. Sign the petition dammit!

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Nope, your just willing to give 20+million illegals the vote…

Destroy free speech…

Tax gas even more and put the whole stupid Carbon offset thing into law…

Not do anything to actualy help the economy (like drill).

And give the Republican party a pass while they do so, so they continue down an even more RINO road…

Sorry, but conservatism will not be listened too UNLESS they stand up and speak, with their votes.

Romeo13 on March 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM

JetBoy: I know conservatives. I worked with conservatives. You, sir, are no conservative.

Attrition is working as we speak. And that’s just with the pitiful attempts of the Bush administration. Illegal immigrant births are down as a percent of the population, per the LATimes via Kaus. And Arizona is seeing improvement too, in spite of Juan McCain’s amnesty agenda.

It’s like Coulter said, Juan’s ACU rating in the Senate since ’01 is 65. Only the usual suspects (Snowe and the other Northeastern liberal Republicans) have lower ratings. Even Chuck Friggin’ Hagel has a 75 during that period.

INC: Florida ain’t the South. And this Alabamian thinks it’s “y’all”; it’s a contraction of “you all.” Take out the “ou” and put in a “‘”.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 6:39 PM

But McCain’s just hoping we are too sleepy to realize he WON’T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE BORDER FENCE after December 31st. He won’t have to, legally. Sign the petition dammit!

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM

I filled it out. :-)

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Interesting footnote: The guy he beat, Charles Taylor-R, missed the vote on NAFTA back in the 1990’s. I can’t remember why, but he said he would’ve vote NO, thus making it a tie vote.

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:30 PM

I apologize. He missed the CAFTA vote due to a “technical error”.

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:44 PM

I filled it out. :-)

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Thank you SG, you truly are a gentleman, with just you signing at least I accomplished something today!

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 6:49 PM

JetBoy: I know conservatives. I worked with conservatives. You, sir, are no conservative.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 6:39 PM

You certainly don’t know me very well…that’s for sure.

Nope, your just willing to give 20+million illegals the vote…

Destroy free speech…

Tax gas even more and put the whole stupid Carbon offset thing into law…

Not do anything to actualy help the economy (like drill).

Romeo13 on March 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM

When did anyone say anything about illegals getting the vote? And I’ve already stated that McCain/Feingold was lousy. And McCain won’t raise Federal Gas taxes…like Romney wanted to do.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 6:53 PM

You certainly don’t know me very well…that’s for sure.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I don’t know you at all, other than what I know from reading your comments on this blog. Based on those, you, sir, are no conservative.

And that’s OK, as long as you don’t try to mislead anyone into thinking that you ARE conservative.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM

And sorry…but anyone willing to let Obama or Hillary run this country for at least four years, simply to reinforce their own ideals of what conservatism is, is someone who’s willing to let America be flushed down the toilet.

I’m not willing to participate in that.

JetBoy

Nice. So you’re saying that a candidate with the belief that the Founding Father’s protection of speech doesn’t apply to political speech is worse than a Democrat?

Sorry, taxes go up and down, and things recover. Wars are won and lost, and the U.S. recovers. But we lost the 10th Amendment with the “New Deal”, and it never recovered.

Now you want me to willfully and deliberately vote for a candidate who has taken aim at causing more damage to the Constitution and damage another Amendment?

Well, I think you’re going to have to call me more names first. Maybe while calling me names you could make some demands that I get in line or some such.

Or at least explain how McCain-Feingold of 2003 wasn’t unconstituional, or how McCain has changed since then, and since his lawsuit in 2006 trying to force the FEC to regulate “internet speech”, and also since his 2007 Amicus Brief verifying that Political Speech of all types should be regulated near an election.

You know, whichever. I’ll not hold my breath for you explaining how electing a man who damages the First Amendment (and has worked to deepen the damage) to the highest elected office in the land is “good”; but try to make the insults and demands fresh and interesting this time.

gekkobear on March 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM

rush said it best — if mC loses this, it’s strictly his fault.

jimmer on March 27, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Nice. So you’re saying that a candidate with the belief that the Founding Father’s protection of speech doesn’t apply to political speech is worse than a Democrat?

Did those democrats vote against that bill? That was a vote I missed.

Has any candidate suggested repealing McCain-Feingold?

h0mi on March 27, 2008 at 7:06 PM

I don’t know you at all, other than what I know from reading your comments on this blog. Based on those, you, sir, are no conservative.

And that’s OK, as long as you don’t try to mislead anyone into thinking that you ARE conservative.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 6:58 PM

Right on! Right on! Right on!

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 7:09 PM

JetBoy’s conservative. He just understands that sometimes we have to work with the lesser of 3 evils to stay in the light. Once we have a footing against Marxists we can address McCain’s follies. Until then, he’s the ally not the enemy.

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 7:20 PM

Has any candidate politician suggested repealing McCain-Feingold f$%& term limits and keep it cushy for the incumbants?

h0mi on March 27, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Sadly, none.

Branch Rickey on March 27, 2008 at 7:31 PM

JetBoy’s conservative.

NTWR on March 27, 2008 at 7:20 PM

We can have a difference of opinion. Voting for McCain, in and of itself, is not so bad; lesser of two evils and all that, though President McCain might have an easier time pushing amnesty through than Presidents Clinton or Obama.

Saying that an issue is “nuanced” is highly suspect. Especially when said issue is NOT, in fact, nuanced. Illegal immigration is not nuanced. It’s cut-and-dried. It’s black and white. It’s straightforward.

You do not reward people for bad behavior. You do not advocate policies that would exacerbate an already existing problem. A conservative, or Republican, does not advocate rewarding 12-20 million poor, uneducated criminals from a country with a socialist tradition with US citizenship.

I’m missing the nuance.

McCain: Uhm, he looks suspiciously like a Marxist to me.

Restricting political speech is not just wrong, it’s 180 degrees from right, under our Constitution; it also smacks of Marxism, to me.

Advocating pervasive government control of our lives in the name of global warmism smacks of Marxism, to me.

Advocating citizenship for 12-20 million socialists who do NOT care for this country (based on their words and actions: flying the American flag upside-down, the Reconquista, La Raza, MEChA, Aztlan) smacks of Marxism to me.

He has a 65 ACU rating since 2001. This from a very, very red state. He’s a liberal IN SPITE of his constituency, not because of it. If he was the Republican Senator from Massachusetts, it would be understandable. He’s not.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 7:36 PM

And another thing: I don’t think we would have to resort to mass deportation; they’ll deport themselves if we cut off the jobs and welfare. Like they’ve ALREADY started doing.(Kinda like vermin: keep all the food sealed, and the roaches, rats, and mice will go away.)

But, could someone please explain to me why mass deportation would be so totally unworkable, if that IS what it took?

If Hitler, in the 1930s and 1940s, could round up 6 million+ Jews, not just from Germany but from all of Western Europe, and have them murdered, why is it so impossible that we, in the 2000s and 2010s, could round up 12-20 million illegal immigrant criminals and deport them?

I’m pretty confident that we could.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 7:48 PM

If Hitler, in the 1930s and 1940s, could round up 6 million+ Jews, not just from Germany but from all of Western Europe, and have them murdered, why is it so impossible that we, in the 2000s and 2010s, could round up 12-20 million illegal immigrant criminals and deport them?

I’m pretty confident that we could.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Wow. Just…Wow.

Yeah, let’s do what Hitler did…and shove all the illegals in boxcars, and ship ‘em off. Why not have a few concentration camps too…Maybe we can just gas ‘em, and nobody will know.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 8:07 PM

More ammo…NONE OF THE ABOVE ’08!!!!!

jwp1964 on March 27, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Heath Shuler is one of the new blue dog democrats that were voted into office in 2006. His district is in western NC’s mountains, which doesn’t have a huge illegal immigration problem. It wouldn’t surprise me if Asheville (in his district) is a sanctuary city, though. Good for Shuler for calling McCain out on this…assuming it’s true of course.

SouthernGent on March 27, 2008 at 6:19 PM

You must not know anything about western NC. We are overrun by illegals and the bad thing is we are the Republican part of the State. Heath won because Charles Taylor switched his vote on CAFTA to give it to BUSH and we the people of the western NC said, “YOUR OUT!”. We will take each one of these clowns out one by one until we bring in some conservatives for the working people. Our Furniture and Textile jobs are gone and what few jobs are left are being taken by the illegals. Do some research on counties like Catawba and see that our local “republican” officials are spending like Democrats and won’t even implement the 287g program. We have illegals killing babies, drinking and driving, and it is out of control. Many counties are “sanctuary” cities and the country needs to know about it. Heath, Congressman McHenry, Congresswoman Myrick and Foxx are doing a good job, McCain is the Amnesty person on this.

livermush on March 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 7:48 PM

One problem with your self deportation theory. $100 billion dollars (apox. guess) of drug cartel money is being fed to 10′s of thousands of them, underground of course, all cash stuffed into pillows and mattresses. Theres a family of 4 or 5 in mid 20′s down the block. Key issue there in their 20′s. Not one goes to work, while all the amer. citizens here are working 10,12 hour days and 2 jobs and some are still losing their homes and moving. But not this group of illegals,, at least put on a show or something to try and fool us, make it look like your going to work..yet they already know the government isn’t looking and could care less. Once they are here its to late. The cartels hate America and it only makes military sense to undermind the America population with implanting a troublemaking family of illegals on every block of america, also to infect our children with their drugs so ours become castaways, unfit to work, while their anchor brats grab all the jobs, whats left of them that is. Solutions..??? know your enemies, especially when there right in your own back yards..

Legions on March 27, 2008 at 8:37 PM

You must not know anything about western NC. We are overrun by illegals and the bad thing is we are the Republican part of the State. Heath won because Charles Taylor switched his vote on CAFTA to give it to BUSH and we the people of the western NC said, “YOUR OUT!”. We will take each one of these clowns out one by one until we bring in some conservatives for the working people. Our Furniture and Textile jobs are

gone and what few jobs are left are being taken by the illegals. Do some research on counties like Catawba and see that our local “republican” officials are spending like Democrats and won’t even implement the 287g program. We have illegals killing babies, drinking and driving, and it is out of control. Many counties are “sanctuary” cities and the country needs to know about it. Heath, Congressman McHenry, Congresswoman Myrick and Foxx are doing a good job, McCain is the Amnesty person on this.

livermush on March 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM

Very eloquent: Perhaps it is time for folks like you to take back (locally, not yet nationally) the Democratic Party from the Hard Left. The LORD knows the Republican hierarchy is run by corruptocrats who fantasize about more and more earmarks and sit silently by while Bush secretly pushes for a North American Union, undermines border security by appointing Keystone-Kop characters like Chertoff (DHS) and Mueller (FBI), panders to the Palis, refuses to pardon Ramos and Compean, pleads AGAINST the Second Amendment yet FOR a murdering illegal alien before the Supreme Court, and pledges US$Billions to Africa for AIDS, to Mexico for this and that, and to the big banks to bail them out for their bad investments….

sanantonian on March 27, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Yeah, let’s do what Hitler did…and shove all the illegals in boxcars, and ship ‘em off. Why not have a few concentration camps too…Maybe we can just gas ‘em, and nobody will know.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Ship illegals to Concentration Camps? Of course, not.
Ship illegals back to their countries of origin (predominately Mexico)? Yes.
Unless, of course, you are offering to open your home to, oh — 2,000 or so of them! ;-)

sanantonian on March 27, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Wow. Just…Wow.

Yeah, let’s do what Hitler did…and shove all the illegals in boxcars, and ship ‘em off. Why not have a few concentration camps too…Maybe we can just gas ‘em, and nobody will know.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Another habit that makes me suspicious. Deliberately misconstruing arguments to cast people you disagree with as eeeeevil.

But you’re conservative, right? Riiight.

Let’s see, in addition to supporting amnesty, and Juan McCain, what other conservative positions do you espouse? Support of gay marriage? Banning religion from the public square? Gun control? Making the eeevil rich pay their fair share? Blaming America First for every single wrong in the world?

You ain’t fooling anybody.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Let’s see, in addition to supporting amnesty, and Juan McCain, what other conservative positions do you espouse? Support of gay marriage? Banning religion from the public square? Gun control? Making the eeevil rich pay their fair share? Blaming America First for every single wrong in the world?

You ain’t fooling anybody.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2008 at 9:15 PM

For the record:

Gay marriage: Doesn’t hurt anyone, why not?

Banning religion/public square: Nope.

Gun Control: Nope.

Overtaxing the rich: Nope.

Blame America first: And….Nope.

Feel free to make judgment calls all you like. You’re wrong, that’s all.

As for:

Deliberately misconstruing arguments to cast people you disagree with as eeeeevil.

Just going by what you said…that if Hitler could round up 6 million Jews, we should be able to, in this day and age, round up 12 million illegals. I figure you meant by the same methods Hitler used. Feel free to clarify whatever point you were trying to make.

JetBoy on March 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Just an alert regarding the almost-daily emails I receive from “Rick Davis, McCain Campaign Manager.”

After today’s bad news, I decided to “unsubscribe,” if possible, and clicked on the following link near the bottom of the email:
“Please visit this page if you want to remove yourself from the email list” (http://link.johnmccain.com/?95-4740-409821-51234).
I kid you not: Guess where that link takes me: to a page entitled: “Make an Online Contribution.”
So much for straight talk, Mr. Davis. If your link says that I should be able to unsubscribe by clicking on a particular link, then I should not be directed to a page telling me how to donate, unless of course, you are implying that I need to PAY to unsubscribe from your email list (which would, I believe, be illegal).

sanantonian on March 27, 2008 at 9:56 PM

unless, of course, the site johnmccain.com is not really one of McCain’s sites…….

sanantonian on March 27, 2008 at 9:57 PM

North Carlina is in the process of being taken back. If the Republicans will not be conservative, then through them out. NC conservatives may have an opportunity to take the Governor’s Mansion with Fred Smith. http://www.joinfred.com. Fred should have run for President and I suspect he will in 8 years after winning the Governer’s seat.
ps. Slick Willy is coming to my home town Hickory. (No pun inteded). Obama is following in April. We have never had so much attention. These guys are really visiting the locals this time and I hope they don’t get to many Dem’s to the polls in November to ruin the Governors race for us.
The Republicans get one of two choices in the presidential primary: (McVain) or (Mickey Mouse). I choose the later

livermush on March 27, 2008 at 11:17 PM

This will get you going…

http://www.wehategringos.com/

with anger.

We have to get McCain in to keep out the other two, then fight him at the House and Senate levels.

waterfall on March 28, 2008 at 2:19 AM

Gay marriage: Doesn’t hurt anyone, why not?

Sure it does. It undermines one of the institutions that makes this country great. It’s part of an agenda the left has been pushing for decades.

Just going by what you said…that if Hitler could round up 6 million Jews, we should be able to, in this day and age, round up 12 million illegals. I figure you meant by the same methods Hitler used. Feel free to clarify whatever point you were trying to make.

You figure I meant by the same methods Hitler used, in spite of what I said. Yes, assume the worst of your “fellow conservative.”

You ain’t fooling anybody.

misterpeasea on March 28, 2008 at 3:25 AM

The difference in vacuum is only a few millibars in deciding who sucks more, McCain….Obama….Hillary.

Listen to the Republicans preach that their man isn’t nearly as bad as the other choice. Isn’t that special. What colossal crap.

This country is in free-fall

Ernest on March 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM

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