There is no way in HELL this moron will accept, concede, or LEARN anything, it asks questions, you answer them, it changes the subject.

Just call it what it is and let it starve, you’ve already demonstrated that it’s wrong.

Some liveblogging of the hearings:

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/03/winter-soldiers.html

http://3-116thsniper.blogspot.com/2008/03/winter-soldier-hearings.html#links

For those who actually, you know, are into the topic. Crazy talk, I know.

Most cancer drugs will lengthen your life a few months, and you’ll spend your life savings for those few months. That’s the scam. I showed how the scam works with Avastin here. Meanwhile, while pharmaceutical companies making people pay tens or hundreds of thousands to squeeze out a few extra months, 18,000 people a year are dying because they are uninsured. It’s a joke. This is why a country like Cuba can pay 5% of what the US does in health care cost and have a life expectance virtually the same as the US. But it pays my salary, I guess.

Life expectancy figures can be gamed and they are.

What would you think about being told this: “The cancer will kill you. You aren’t allowed to buy any drugs to help yourself, but you can give your money for health care in a country whose government has bankrupted the country and won’t let people better their lives.”

Just like old times at PW and Patterico, eh?

The world does not run on hypothetical scenerios. With so many of the previous anti-war zealots that have been proven to have lied, it is not a stretch to dis-believe these protestors who will not make their statements under oath.

If this happened, honestly, would you be suspicious?

But I don’t have to cherry pick from one of Michelle’s articles because it won’t tell us a thing about TNR. TNR’s content will tell us everything – and this month’s (non Cherry picked cover) is a great example. Why does a conservative mag insist that “We” must choose the Democrat nominee?

BTW – Dershowitz has always considered himself libertarian, not conservative.

Unless you are willing to swear to your allegations under oath move on.  I am done with you.  The fact of the matter is, even the simplest criminal charge requires sworn affidavits. 
With the exception of one individual, the group does not have the …

Is that Confederate Yankee site another one of the liberal terrorist rags?

No, that’s the site run by the guy who made the FOIA request for Beauchamp’s statements and got them. Which is why you can read them there.

We are way beyond that. The story is fake, and I fell for it for a while.

Yes, we’re beyond that. Beauchamp’s story is fake, and he’s admitted so. So why are you insisting that he didn’t?

BTW, Fidel could use a researcher like you.

Testify under oath, or just be truthful and say you have a political agenda.

It’s that simple.

It’s the fact that you are trying to use the war as a political tool, and are not being honest about it, that has everyone pissed off at you.

Just admit you are Teh Ghay Warriors, and try to live with yourselves for the rest of your lives?

Your are right. It must be the Jews fault. Everything else is.

He has jerked you around to where he wants to go, which is not the subject of the posting or the video.

Remember. Don’t Feed The Trolls!!

Landshark:
I see Matin Peretz’s name here (1) next to Podhoretz, Perle, Solarz, Kirpatrick, Kagan, etc., but no Goff, Pappe, Blum, etc. How weird. Of you want to believe TNR is liberal, that’s fine. I think it’s funny. Pappe to you must be a terrorist.
I read your new post. Yes, you may be right about the ownership thing. Asper ownership is not much different than Hertog. Look, I took the Beachamp story seriously until I saw where it originated. I read TNR, and for you to claim it is liberal is a joke. Dershowitz is a liberal, too. Right?

Silverfox:
No, I know what I am talking about.

Pablo:
Is that Confederate Yankee site another one of the liberal terrorist rags? We are way beyond that. The story is fake, and I fell for it for a while.

It’s interesting that you link to the Novartis site to get your info. There’s another objective source.
Yes, Gleevec is one of the better drugs. At 2,000 a month (2), it better be. Considering that “researchers found no evidence that treatment with Gleevec lengthens patients lives,” (3) that’s a lot of money. This site (4) says that Gleevec slowed disease progression to a statistical significance of p less than 0.0001, which is pretty impressive. Last week, on another thread, I showed that most suicide bombers are secular, and that there is a correlation between suicide bombing and occupation by a foreign country that is statistically significant to a p value less than 0.001. I was told that this was a coincidence, so maybe Gleevec’s activity is a coincidence as well.
Most cancer drugs will lengthen your life a few months, and you’ll spend your life savings for those few months. That’s the scam. I showed how the scam works with Avastin here (5). Meanwhile, while pharmaceutical companies making people pay tens or hundreds of thousands to squeeze out a few extra months, 18,000 people a year (6) a dying because they are uninsured. It’s a joke. This is why a country like Cuba can pay 5% of what the US does in health care cost and have a life expectance virtually the same as the US. But it pays my salary, I guess.

1) newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm
2) dana-farber.org/res/research/gleevec.asp
3) cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/results/gleevec-superior-for-cml0502
4) docguide.com/news/content.nsf/news/852571020057CCF685257105000C2686
5) captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009946.php
6) iom.edu/?id=19175

I read your new post. Yes, you may be right about the ownership thing. Asper ownership is not much different than Hertog. Look, I took the Beachamp story seriously until I saw where it originated. I read TNR, and for you to claim it is liberal is a joke. Dershowitz is a liberal, too. Right?

Silverfox:
No, I know what I am talking about.

Pablo:
Is that Confederate Yankee site another one of the liberal terrorist rags? We are way beyond that. The story is fake, and I fell for it for a while.

It’s interesting that you link to the Novartis site to get your info. There’s another objective source.
Yes, Gleevec is one of the better drugs. At 2,000 a month, it better be. Considering that “researchers found no evidence that treatment with Gleevec lengthens patients lives,” that’s a lot of money. This site says that Gleevec slowed disease progression to a statistical significance of p less than 0.0001, which is pretty impressive. Last week, on another thread, I showed that most suicide bombers are secular, and that there is a correlation between suicide bombing and occupation by a foreign country that is statistically significant to a p value less than 0.001. I was told that this was a coincidence, so maybe Gleevec’s activity is a coincidence as well.
Most cancer drugs will lengthen your life a few months, and you’ll spend your life savings for those few months. That’s the scam. I showed how the scam works with Avastin here. Meanwhile, while pharmaceutical companies making people pay tens or hundreds of thousands to squeeze out a few extra months, 18,000 people a year are dying because they are uninsured. It’s a joke. This is why a country like Cuba can pay 5% of what the US does in health care cost and have a life expectance virtually the same as the US. But it pays my salary, I guess.

They have transcripts of the whole thing:

http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=CompletWSI

During the 2004 election I read a lot of sites about John Kerry, the Swift Boat vets, stories of war crimes and atrocities committed. None of them claimed that crime weren’t committed or that atrocities never happened. Over 2 million men served in the Vietnam War and nobody has ever claimed than none of them did horrible things. Some did.

At one of the sites I read back then was a letter from a man who recounted his first few days in Vietnam. He said that all the new guys were told the stories of atrocities committed. He said that he thought to himself that he would never do such a thing.

A few weeks later he was eating his lunch out side a mess tent when he over heard the same stories being told to a new batch of soldiers. Only this time, it was his unit that had done it. He knew then that most of the stories going around were lies, or exaggerations, or had been told so many times that any truth there may have been to them had long been lost. He said in all his time in Vietnam he never saw anything close to the stories that were always going around.

There is no way around human nature. But to get up and present “testimony” without being willing to back it up is a hell of a lot different than spreading gossip that turns into urban legends that smear an entire group of people.

You judge a source by what nation it is in. I judge it by who owns it. Canwest is owned by Asper, another Jewish billionaire who is hardly on the left, but it doesn’t matter, because Canwest bought TNR after the Beachamp story. Before that, Hertog owned it, like I said. If you believe a source is not right wing when the owner is part of the American Enterprise Institute, then you are an imbecile. Fine. I claim that ZNET is conservative.

Speaking of imbeciles; Check your facts, dave. Canwest was one of the owners of TNR when the Beauchamp thing happened. For that matter, as a CanWest shareholder, so was I. And so what?

Here’s a secret about conservatives; we like to make money. If the potential ROI looks good, we’ll invest in lots of things. Hell, if the Berkeley Unshorn Wymyn’s Performance Art and Nude Ballet Troupe wanted to perform their interpretive rendition of the Communist Manifesto in Tiannemen square, and I thought it would do well, I’d invest.

Looking at ownership will tell you less than looking at content. Chomsky pulls in some pretty good coin by publishing books – I guess that makes him a rabid, capitalist, right-winger, huh?