Gallup: 73% support individual right to own gun under Second Amendment
posted at 10:10 am on March 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Good news but not great news, for reasons you’ll shortly see. Which way’s the trend moving? Gallup doesn’t offer historical data to compare and it’s hard to tell from other pollsters, whose surveys on this issue tend to stick to questions about whether gun laws should be made stricter or not. CNN did poll the “individual right vs. militia right” question a few months ago, though, and found 65 percent support at the time, 72 percent among men and 58 percent among women. The margin of error there, as in the Gallup poll, was three percent, so there may well be a trend in the right direction here spurred by worries that the Court’s going to grab America’s guns this summer.
The question is, how broad should that individual right be? Gallup:
The trend’s moving in the right direction there too, but there’s a long way to go to close that gap, which shows you how soft the support for the right is. Other pollsters show an even wider disparity. Pew polled the issue after the VTech shooting last year. Pretty stable:
ABC polled it too around the same time and found support for stricter gun laws at 61/36, four points higher than it was in May 2002. What does that mean in practical effect?
The upshot? You’re entitled to a revolver, although probably just one and preferably a small one. Happy shooting!
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So 27% of my neighbors don’t believe in the constitution?!?!
WTF??!!!
elraphbo on March 27, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Wait…over a quarter of this nation thinks we have no right to own a gun of any kind?
That’s freaking terrifying. Revoke some goddamn citizenship already.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:14 AM
9mm hollow point is about as small as you want to go for defensive purposes.
PBoilermaker on March 27, 2008 at 10:14 AM
.32 or .22 magnum is better than nothing.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM
True…true. It still doesn’t change the fact that people in this country have lost their dang minds.
PBoilermaker on March 27, 2008 at 10:18 AM
That’s what we get for abandoning our school system to liberals. Generations have been raised ignorant of their our history.
Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Well, I don’t know about the rest of you, but since I’ve given money to the RNC in the past, I am inundated with “surveys” and “platform development questionnaires” from the republicans in Congress. They are basically a fancy way to ask for more money. But in every one of them, a variation of the question is asked, “Do you think the GOP should fight for the 2nd amendment as fervently as it has in the past?” I don’t know what others have put, or if they just tossed the survey in the trash, but the mere fact that the GOP is even asking the question has left a very bad feeling in my gut. So as far as trends go, with the way our government is trending, I don’t think its going to matter too much how the population is trending.
Weight of Glory on March 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM
It’s too late to ban the sale of guns.
It’s impossible to ban guns.
It’s daydreaming to even imagine that the cops can take guns from people or arrest millions of guns owners.
This country has gone too far away in gun ownership, guns owners should shove a barrel in the Government and the Court asses.
Indy Conservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM
27% need remedial education, fast!
profitsbeard on March 27, 2008 at 10:22 AM
I can’t say this enough.
WATCH THIS. WATCH THIS. WATCH THIS.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I recomend the 9mm hi-point for the inexpensive, serviceable, and reliable concealed carry/home protection. It will shoot all types of ammo easily, and sights are adjustable. For those with larger hands the magazine has a handle extension. Get those permits now folks, because when the SCOTUS rules this summer there may not be a chance again. It’s a good thing Uncle Sam trained me to protect my neighbors, because they sure don’t care to protect themselves. It is sad, I weep for my nation.
csvdsaint on March 27, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Use that $600 / $1200 rebate to purchase a gun or ammo.
I’ve got my eyes set on a Ruger SP101 6 shot .327 Magnum with a 3″ barrel.
BowHuntingTexas on March 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM
My backup is my grandfather’s old Colt .25 acp and I’m fine with it.
Of course, it has his .45 brother to play with. :)
Anyway, no one I know of would look at my .25 and say “fine, shoot me.”
On the poll results, the Pew shows a majority wanting to control gun ownership but a majority opposing a handgun ban. There’s loads of optimism there. Similarly, the ABC poll seems a little stacked to me. The phrasing of the question is, at least to this gun owner, leading…especially when “semi-automatic” has been used as a scary term by the MSM for quite some time now.
JohnTant on March 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM
The sheer greed,ignorance and apathy that permeates this country is destroying us. I blame the left who, like termites, are undermining the foundations of our freedoms, destroying our educational system, erasing our sense of personal responsibility, and fostering our something for nothing mentality. God help us all.
NNtrancer on March 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Not just a right. A responsibility.
ronsfi on March 27, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Thank you for that! I’m going to send it to everyone I know.
Weight of Glory on March 27, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Never use a handgun whose caliber does not begin with the number “4″.
pseudonominus on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I am not even sure if ABC news knows what a semi-automatic is, let alone the people that oppose them.
F15Mech on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Thankfully, constitutional rights are not based on the point-of-time ignorance of the modern public.
michaelo on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
It’s sad. But my point is:
Can they do it to 300 million people?
Indy Conservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
This may sound paranoid, but if you value your right to your handgun, do this:
Buy a good handgun through a face-to-face transaction, not from a FFL. If you buy through an FFL, either through a gun store, through the internet, or even at a growing number of gun shows, they are required to fill out a form with your information and the identification of the weapon. When that shop goes out of business, those forms go straight to the ATF. Therefore, buy a weapon from someone for cash or trade, with no paper trail. Get plenty of ammo for it.
Then, go buy the cheapest piece of crap pistol you can from an FFL.
If/When someone comes at gunpoint to confiscate it, willingly hand over the piece of crap, and do NOT confirm any other firearm ownership. Keep the good pistol well hidden, along with the ammo.
It really is your best bet.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Someone needs to give the ABC pollsters a little firearms lesson. Semi-automatic weapons aren’t the only ones that “automatically re-load every time the trigger is pulled”. Revolvers do that, too.
Unless we should read that poll to say that most Americans are okay with, say Muskets.
Jimmie on March 27, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Hey, one of those voices polled was mine.
Cool.
Bob's Kid on March 27, 2008 at 10:36 AM
It’s been surveyed time and time again and the results are always the same. Upwards of 30% of the population would not attack an enemy first if, beyond any doubt, an enemy was going to launch a nuclear strike against us in the next 30 seconds. So why should 27% of the population being just as stupid in regard to the 2nd Amendment surprise anyone?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 27, 2008 at 10:38 AM
New Orleans was 1.3 million people. How big was the NO police department, and how many national guardsmen were backing them up?
There have been reports of other confiscations in towns for the last several years, but they’ve been squelched. I distinctly remember an article on a local news station about a gun confiscation in Oshkosh. Read the whole thing. A couple of hours later, the article was gone. That scared me. Maybe it was a mistake, maybe it wasn’t.
Over a quarter don’t even think we have a right to own a gun. How many are fuzzy on the issue?
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM
What’s an FFL?
Slublog on March 27, 2008 at 10:39 AM
If you know anything about guns, you know that turning this into a .45 versus 9MM stopping power debate will make the thread go 50 pages before the day is out. ;)
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I noticed this in the Pew poll:
To me that seems to be undersampling gun owners. I’ve heard figures of 2/3 of homes have guns in them. The Pew sample may have an issue in this regard…
JohnTant on March 27, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Federal Firearms License. Anyone who operates a gun sales business needs one of these.
And here is a link to the form I referenced.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Do the words “cold, dead fingers” mean anything to you?
Jaibones on March 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Federal Firearms License.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM
9mm v .45 v .50 or whatever, a well placed .22, say behind the ear, works just fine. And in a pinch, empty whatever’s handy and then beat them with the butt until the police arrive!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM
It will be a civil war. There will be an uprising and riots against the police. Don’t think it’ll be that easy to confiscate guns from 300 million people.
I think people should start buying more guns to protect themselves from the cops.
Indy Conservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Horse is out of the barn, MC. Bring it.
Jaibones on March 27, 2008 at 10:44 AM
The really good news is that 100% of our constitutions support our right to own guns.
snaggletoothie on March 27, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Ah, thanks. I’ve filled out one of those forms.
Slublog on March 27, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Federal Firearms License Slu.
Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 10:44 AM
I’m sorry…I was talking about the Gallup poll in my last post, not the Pew poll.
JohnTant on March 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
What cop is going to want to face a realistic possibility of death by enforcing a total gun ban? What wife would let their cop husband out the door?
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Indy Conservative,
I agree. If the government decides to begin gun round-ups, God help the people they send to take guns away. That’s if they can get to your house before militias form.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Boy was I late with that…
Theworldisnotenough on March 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
If criminals have access to semi-automatic weapons, then the law abiding public should as well. Gun laws do absolutley nothing but give advantage to the armed criminal or psychotic.
darwin on March 27, 2008 at 10:45 AM
But you better be ready to defend your position(s) with respect to concealability, too. This is the real world, not a vacuum. Sure, I’d rather have the .45, but what how do I carry it, and where?
And I want details!
Jaibones on March 27, 2008 at 10:46 AM
I have the 5-shot 357 mag. As far as I know, it’s about as much firepower as you can fit into your pants pocket.
RedWinged Blackbird on March 27, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Beautiful.
amerpundit on March 27, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Next time you put up a “Red Meat” story, AP, I want a picture of BACON!
Nethicus on March 27, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Therefore, as I said, it’s impossible for the Government to do it. Especially if they want to keep their butts warm on the Power seat.
Indy Conservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Bacon’s part of the other white meat…pink/red though it may be.
James on March 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM
My preference is .40 S&W; better stopping power than 9mm and more managable for quick followups than a .45.
Personally, I prefer the heft of the all-metal CZ40p to handle it. Glocks are, of course, the better choice for a lighter version.
If SCOTUS were to rule for the Washington DC ban (very unlikely), the ‘New Rich’ will immediately have gunshop owners in the mix. I figure it would increase the number of privately owned handguns at least 30% in the first couple of weeks.
michaelo on March 27, 2008 at 10:51 AM
If someone ever wonders why teaching accurate world and American history to our children and young people is of critical importance … this could be exhibit A.
The lessons of humanity have already been played out in history. It’s too bad nobody is paying attention.
Anybody with even a casual acquaintance with a history book would be far more cautious about abandoning gun rights. Disarming the citizenry has always – always – been one of the first steps in the rise of tyranny.
Professor Blather on March 27, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Lincoln raised an army against his brethren, and to send armed cops/military to our homes to confiscate guns is no less tyrannical.
The hunting community would certainly rediscover their aptitude for long range sniping. I wouldn’t recommend being president at that point.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 10:52 AM
**Featured in the April, 2008 Rifleman mag. Sweet.
Jaibones on March 27, 2008 at 10:52 AM
It happens one town at a time. Chicago has already confiscated numerous firearms throughout the city. National emergencies are always good excuses. By the time people like us are really pissed about it, most of the average citizens will have willingly traded them in for cash at the voluntary gun turn-ins, once the dollar falls even further.
I’d like to say I agree with you, but I don’t think it’s in the majority of Americans anymore to do so. We’re too soft. Even if it did happen, the media would be on the government’s side, and those who fought would be labeled terrorists. I’m not trying to talk anti-Bush here, by the way. Islamists wearing bombs and CAIR spokespeople are terrorists, make no mistake. I’m simply saying it would be a very, very tough battle. We wouldn’t be fighting muskets with muskets.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:53 AM
55% would ban semi auto pistols? The majority of people are ignorant of guns. If you say “automatically reload” most people would think fully automatic. Do the people suveyed even know the difference?
m1a1usmc on March 27, 2008 at 10:53 AM
If the Second Ammendment is all about the government supplying the militia with firearms, why is it in the Bill of Rights defining the rights of citizens? Are there any other Ammendments that are not specifically about the rights of citizens? Do the anti-gun folks think the Bill of Rights outliens the rights of the government, rather than citizens?
Tantor on March 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM
Very, very good points. When I hear people talking about “voting from the rooftops”, I initially cringe. However, when they have absolute rule, I realize that sometimes that is the only constituent they will listen to.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:55 AM
I know there are always a few nuts out there but 20+% don’t believe in the right of self defense? Courts have ruled that the police have no obligation to protect you and the police by their own admission don’t prevent crimes, they investigate them. Just remember, “when seconds count the police will be there in minutes.”
TooTall on March 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I think 50 pages is an understatement ;)
F15Mech on March 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I think I might check into buying a little stock in Smith & Wesson, I have a feeling gun sales are going to skyrocket.
repvoter on March 27, 2008 at 10:56 AM
For how many years were Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, and Tom Brokaw referring to pistols and semi-auto rifles as “automatic weapons”? Americans have been inundated with that ignorance.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 10:57 AM
What else do you expect in a civil war? Propaganda 101.
The most important thing for militia to do is undermine the faith that the operative arm(s) of the government have in the mission.
The potential for being shot at every doorstep is daunting enough, but if push comes to shove, all’s fair in love and war – shoot everything with a badge or insignia.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 10:57 AM
lol, just poking fun!
In fact at the bottom end of my defensive pistol roster is a 9X18 Makarov.
Though if worse came to worse I would got to the “training” Ruger MkIII…shot placement, lol…sure beats a pointy stick!
pseudonominus on March 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I’m thinking that the Para 24 ounce 9mm snubby would be a nice fit in my pocket, too.
Jaibones on March 27, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Regarding the last question on “semi-automatic handguns”, I’m sure a certain number of respondents here “automatic” in any context and they assume your talking about an AK-47.
Nosferightu on March 27, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Might I instead suggest Browning, Beretta, Heckler & Koch, Glock, or some other gun company that hasn’t either:
a) Publicly stated support for political initiatives holding gun manufacturers responsible for gun deaths?
b) Engineering their guns with more and more safety devices to the point that in split second self-defense situations, your life is more at risk than with older models?
Colt, Springfield, and S&W are all, sadly, guilty of this.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Threads like this are interesting, but always serve to remind me of the beta within.
Slublog on March 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Don’t forget a short barreled tactical shotgun loaded with 00/slug for those personal moments
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 11:01 AM
It’s because of their use in the recent school shootings, no doubt.
But they won’t go after these and other firearms first (too much resistance)…instead watch them start to clamp down on ammunition.
pseudonominus on March 27, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Unfortunately, the left has not given up. They’ve already changed tactics. Now it’s all about mandating that gun makers use sole-souce technology and ’safety features’ to drive up the price of handguns. Anyone want to purchase a $3500 handgun? It doesn’t stop there. Kalifornia is toying with a requirement to “register and pay $35″ for a “permit” in order buy ammunition. Another “crime fighting” idea is to stamp serial numbers on each and every cartridge case. You would sign a register and the serial number of the ammo would be included at time of sale. Anyone want to buy a $3 .22 bullet? The left has not given up. They concede that you can own a gun, you can buy ammunition. The question is, will you be able to afford it? Part of the SCOTUS argument last week was about “resonable restrictions”. It will be interesting to see the final decision. This new tactic of the left would be similar to telling newpapers that they have the 1st Ammendment right to print newspapers. Unfortunately, the government no longer permits the manufacture of ink.
GarandFan on March 27, 2008 at 11:02 AM
But hey! Let’s not get too grim here! I have a good feeling about SCOTUS.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 11:03 AM
When the Democrat storm troopers come to get my guns, $h!t will hit the fan big time. Some things are worth living for, and some things are worth dying for. And I can’t exist in an America that crushes my freedom to defend myself. Thats where I draw the line and get dog ass mean.
saiga on March 27, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I have to admit…this frightens the crap out of me. I’d like to think I could easily bring myself to do it if the situation called for it, but I don’t have that confidence. I would NOT be looking forward to such a conflict. Maybe I’m just too young and have been brought up in too much of a bubble society to imagine doing what others once did to make this country exist.
I hate admitting that.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:04 AM
How many of you go to a range near you?
I do…near our nation’s Capitol.
And I can tell you in the past 6 months, the following has occurred:
1. Attendance is up (there is now a wait time to shoot)
2. Membership is up
3. Gun sales are up
4. Conceal classes are booked 3 months in advance
This was not happening 6-12 months ago, because this is the same range I’ve gone to for years. We know all the employees, talk to them constantly, and they’ve told us about this phenomenon.
Some has to do with competition, but I & the guys at the range think there are other factors at play. I think when you add all the political issues that make people realize their government is not protecting them, many decide to do something about it.
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Please do not think that I am being blase about making such statements – the gravity of such a situation is all-too apparent.
It is the ugliest of warfare. In our homes and yards and neighbourhoods. Once you pull a trigger, all bets are off – do you have a family to look after? That is a strong emotional pull that I’ll wager a tyrannical government is banking on.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 11:07 AM
No. They won’t be faceless hollywood stormtroopers. They may well be people you know.
Lots of very painful psychology involved. Get your head straight now, so you’re ready.
LimeyGeek on March 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Hey, I understand. I was there…many years ago. But I lost my brother (in-law, but like a brother to me) in a robbery attempt last year. They murdered him for money & his car.
I guess as a woman, I’d already had to harden myself to the possibility of fighting for my life in case I was attacked.
His murder just made me that much more willing to defend my life.
I’m getting my conceal carry in a month, with the blessing of the detective working his case. It’s still not solved.
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:13 AM
They’ve already started…in DC. They’re worried about the SCOTUS ruling.
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM
For perspective, after the Pace University Koran incident, I decided to make a little protest. Living in Madison, I’m not far from a major university. Since Shmulevich was being charged with a crime because he stole school property, I planned to purchase several Korans from a bookstore, and leave them in various toilets around campus.
Why didn’t I? My girlfriend was terrified that if Muslims on campus found out who did it, they’d come after me, and begged me not to do it. I guess that shows where my priorities lie.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:16 AM
I’m kinda thinking of a Springfield XD sub-compact in .40 S&W. I’ve already got a Glock 23 but I’d like something a little smaller.
Afterimage on March 27, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Gallup poll, likely to be more like 90% in favor of individual right interpretation. How could the drive bys have failed so miserably.
tarpon on March 27, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I shall pick up for myself a Colt .45 this summer. I think I shall follow it up with either a Colt .38, or maybe a Single Action Army for a little old-school bling.
While I’m at it, I think I’ll pick up an M1, and an M4…
And I’ll clean them. Daily.
knob on March 27, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Then maybe your best bet is to look up various gun, knife, & defense laws for WI.
That way, if you decide to make your stand using lawfully purchased Korans, you know how to lawfully protect yourself. ADT’s another option, too.
I carry a knife on my keychain. It’s called Secure-Ex. It’s a short, single-sided blade (so lawful in many states) with a short handle for two fingers. It’s specifically designed for self-protection.
I’ve also started boning up on self-defense maneuvers. I am exercising all legal options to defend myself if someone decides they don’t like me exercising my First Amendment rights!
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Lincoln was no tyrant. The rebels attacked Fort Sumter and the wave of patriotic indignation that resulted in the North led to the inital Union army of 75,000 being raised.
Imagine the outrage if guerillas from Berkeley started launching military attakcs on the United States because they thought Bush was a tyrant.
aengus on March 27, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Yup. I’ve got the .357 mag in a 2″ barrel. I prefer to carry it in a shoulder holster under an untucked bulky button down shirt under my left arm pit. However, I’ve also got a nice paddle holster I sometimes use. It’s a bit more uncomfortable but much more accessible.
That new .327 has an adjustable back sight and an extra round (6 shot). Plus, from the articles I’ve read, it has nearly as much knock down as the .357 with less kick.
Me likeee.
BowHuntingTexas on March 27, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Not so fast, sparky. Modern revolvers automatically reload every time the trigger’s pulled, too.
You’re entitled to a muzzle-loader. And perhaps a sharp stick.
Tanya on March 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM
The best way to fight state regulation on firearms and ammunition, is for manufactures to take a page from the Barrett’s handbook and not sell your product to that state’s agencies. Or better yet, pull your product completely off their markets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_Caliber_BMG_Regulation_Act_of_2004#Controversy
m1a1usmc on March 27, 2008 at 11:28 AM
That would make gun registration unnecessary.
Police would just check out the folks who smell like rotten eggs. :-D
Slublog on March 27, 2008 at 11:29 AM
You dudes like your guns, don’t you?
You need to get yourselves one of those turd catapults. Trust me. You’ll never go back.
Allahpundit on March 27, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Hate to inject my opinion here, but I avoid Glocks. No hammers. Yuck.
You can find really good Rugers for around $400 brand new. Or if you insist on dropping some serious dough, I go S&W. Great quality. And there’s no reason to buy a .357 when a .22 will hurt people just as much (and smaller-framed people don’t have to deal with the kick). Plus, the ammo’s about 1/3 the price for twice as much!
I just love Ruger and S&W…we have Taurus too, but those are beaters for the range.
I also like a selection of revolvers and semis.
JMHO…
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Kewl…the hubby & I were contemplating getting one, but couldn’t hold out!
So we settled on another .357. That makes 3: a 6-in, a 3-in, and a snub.
Miss_Anthrope on March 27, 2008 at 11:33 AM
The .357 does kick like a mule. More than a few rounds and my knuckles start to throb. You gotta love it, though. It’s built like a tank.
RedWinged Blackbird on March 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Heh. This thread just got 100 comments longer.
Slublog on March 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM
It’s sticky in Wisconsin. Carrying a concealed weapon is a class A misdemeanor. Knives with a blade of longer than 2.5 inches are considered “dangerous”. I may, or may not carry one over that length already that happened to save my best friend’s life when a coked-up drunk 300 pound monster tried to kill him. That incident would be more than enough reason for me to carry(if I were doing so).
Concealed carry? Out of the question. Doyle vetoed it twice. Hopefully the SCOTUS decision might overturn that.
Open carry? Every single county has provisions that allow a police officer to confiscate a pistol if you are open carrying, and charge you either with disturbing the peace or mayhem, and potentially arrest you and detain you. Oh, but it’s not illegal to open carry. Gotta love how this works.
As for defense with my hands, I’m not big enough that I could potentially defend against three or four jihadders with bloody intentions.
It’s a game of poker. I’ve folded more than once. Things get bad enough, though, I’m kicking over the table and blasting away.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Does it have a safety on it? If so, forget it.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM
You’re hurting me so bad. HK USPs all the way, or Beretta 92s, or Browning Hi-Powers if you’re going to drop some real cash.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:37 AM
F15Mech on March 27, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Damn backquote tag
F15Mech on March 27, 2008 at 11:39 AM
The HK USP series is the pinnacle of human handgun design.
I have them in .45, .40, and 9mm.
It’s what Jack Bauer uses. Think about that.
Sure he’ll pick up a SIG off a dead body, or another agent…but when he has a choice its the USP compact in 9mm.
Glocks? Don’t make me laugh…KB, lol.
pseudonominus on March 27, 2008 at 11:44 AM
And don’t forget Vincent in Collateral. Michael Mann knows how to arm his stars.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 11:45 AM
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