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Maliki to militias in Basra: You’ve got three days to quit or else

posted at 1:55 pm on March 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The reports last year of security returning to the city were, as expected, greatly exaggerated, so suddenly it’s ultimatum time. The battles are bloody, confirms Sky News, but the Brits are nowhere to be found. Why? Danger Room knows, and Noah Shachtman draws the obvious conclusion:

So the Brits bail, and Basra is “essentially divided up among Shi’ite party mafias, each of which had its own form of extortion and corruption,” as Anthony Cordesman puts it today. Isn’t this an extremely bad omen for an American troop withdrawal, under a would-be President Obama or Clinton? How would a country-wide draw-down be different than this local one?

Good question, one that’s been asked before. But the truth is that this train wreck is four years in the making and stems from the British version of our own mistake in waging war undermanned and on the cheap. They’ve had fewer than 10,000 troops in country to police the south for almost four years; because their footprint was so light, they gravitated towards the disastrous go-along-to-get-along strategy in Basra that Steven Vincent warned about in 2005, days before one of the militias who now rule the city put a bullet in his head. The Guardian’s been writing about the transformation of the area into a Shiite gangland for the better part of a year, in increasingly alarming terms. The British solution? Withdrawal and a premature handover of security responsibilities to Iraqi forces, which brings us to where we are today, with U.S. troops wondering if they’ll have to take over in that region too.

The burning question: Where’s Sadr in all this? Suddenly the Mahdi Army’s facing off with U.S. and Iraqi troops not just in Basra but in Baghdad, and yet the last word from the great man on the subject was that they should maintain their ceasefire and confine themselves to “sit-ins” as protest. Either they’ve tuned him out or they’ve tuned someone else in (or both). How hard does the fighting have to get before he formally blesses it in order to avoid the appearance of his troops operating against his wishes?

Update: To flip the script on Noah, if the Iraqi Army rolls in there and cracks heads, won’t we be seeing that cited as evidence in every Democratic campaign commercial from here on out that occupation forces aren’t needed anywhere in Iraq anymore? Even though it’s clearly not true?


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So much for Maliki’s friendship with the toxic dwarf in Iran. He could call fatso Sadr in if he wants to.

RobCon on March 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Sadr couldn’t come right out and incite violence when the last ceasefire ended so what he did was quite clever. He “extended” the ceasefire and then resigned his position. As he is no longer there to enforce his own decree, he has, in effect, withdrawn the ceasefire without having to withdraw it at all. As he is no longer “head” of the Mahdi Army, what value does his “ceasefire” really have?

Shrewed

crosspatch on March 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM

How hard does the fighting have to get before he formally blesses it in order to avoid the appearance of his troops fighting against his wishes?

Will Sadr become the new Arafat, where his “troops” no longer listen to him because he is become “soft” in their eyes?

Mallard T. Drake on March 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Isn’t this an extremely bad omen for an American troop withdrawal, under a would-be President Obama or Clinton?

If you want to hang the collapse of Iraq around the necks of Republicans for generations, that’s not a bug — it’s a feature. It’s why Kerry couldn’t be trusted with US foreign policy, and the same goes for the current crop.

DrSteve on March 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM

The battles are bloody, confirms Sky News, but the Brits are nowhere to be found.

Thanks, guys.

amerpundit on March 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Funny how the Brits used to tout their strategy of a soft touch as being more enlightened and effective than that of the American military.

Sure; it’s important to make a positive impression with the local population, but not at the expense of letting the fox run the henhouse.

Hollowpoint on March 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM

House to house.

Akzed on March 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM

One aspect of this that seems to be getting short shrift is the rivalry between Sadr and Maliki. The PM is in Basra personally sticking it to the guy who just last year was an untouchable for the US.

The reason is that Maliki sees an opportunity to take Sadr down a peg or two. After spanking him in Basra (and evidently Sadr City is next) for a few days, I would be willing to bet that a cease fire is declared and we go back to some kind of status quo with Iraqi troops patrolling the streets.

rick moran on March 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM

I wonder how long it would take to clean out the city if our troops fought as savagely and unrestrained as the libs think they fight. Three days, a week? With the rules of engagement, I suppose this will take a while.

Mallard T. Drake on March 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM

because their footprint was so light, they gravitated towards the disastrous go-along-to-get-along strategy in Basra

Funny how the Brits used to tout their strategy of a soft touch as being more enlightened and effective than that of the American military.

Sure; it’s important to make a positive impression with the local population, but not at the expense of letting the fox run the henhouse.

Hollowpoint on March 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Exactly Hollowpoint. It wasn’t the light footprint that created the situation in Basra, it was the Brits philosophy on how to deal with the natives.

Texas Gal on March 26, 2008 at 2:16 PM

I worry that the population that culture has produced is beyond repair. They are floating on a pool of oil and are too stupid to pour pee out of a boot with instructions on the heel, much less live the good life like oil Sheaks.

saiga on March 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM

The Brits are under the thumb of the muslims at home and seem scared to death to upset them. Blair had a tiny bit of guts to help us, they have none now.
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letget on March 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Shrewed

Possibly, but not by Sadr.

In reality, the continued presence of his Iranian masters pushed him to isolate himself.

As such, the militarily incompetent Muqtada al-Sadr has been yanked from control of the Mahdi Army.

Sadr’s defense of Najaf made Stalingrad look like patty cake makes the Salvation Army look like the Spartans. You don’t reward success of that magnitude. Instead, “rogue groups” were simply the first test of direct Iranian control until they could make a move like this.

TheEJS on March 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Sadr has lost cred with and control of the Mahdi, he has chosen religion as the path to power, influence and saving his sorry A$$ until he is needed at a later date. The Iranians are calling the shots via Al Quds proxies and Maliki’s blessing. The ultimatum is nothing more than a warning to the Mahdi which says you have 3 days to kill as many Americans as possible, after that he can not control what the Americans will do.

dmann on March 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM

If Maliki is victorious in this effort to defang the Basra militias, it could be the beginning of the end of the Iraq War. We just have to hope that this isn’t a repeat of the First Battle of Fallujah when the Marines were called off before they could finish the job. Maliki has to have the stones to kill these bastards or Iraq is now a colony of Iran.

fleiter on March 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM

OK so the American plan of buying older weapons back from those exact same militants and then paying Sadr $350M has nothing to do with what is going on now in Basra? Easy to blame the Brits but what about the complete lack of a US plan for post Saddam other than putting Chalabi in charge?

I do hope that the Iraqi forces are able to prevail and clear out the militant thugs who run the South but simply blaming the British for their handover to local politicians is a little simple-minded.

lexhamfox on March 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM

It can’t be a surprise that the Brits are not directly involved. This action has been in the pipe for some time. This would seem to be a controlled test of Iraqi ability and action independent of western ground assistance.

Thats the best it could be. What it winds up is yet to be seen.

BL@KBIRD on March 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

lex, I’m not ‘blaming the Brits’, I’m just stating the fact that the Brits had a different philosophy about how to deal with the insurgency and Sadr in the South. I know this from personal knowledge and my relationship with a Maj in the British military. He and I went round and round about this thru his two tours. My point is that it wasn’t the light footprint that caused a go-along-to-get-along, it was their intended strategy.

From the MoD website.

Operations in Iraq: About the UK mission in Iraq

Texas Gal on March 26, 2008 at 2:45 PM

If the Sadrists are crushed…… would mean quite a reduction in sectarian violence. The question is…. which military group has the cajones to crush them?

MNDavenotPC on March 26, 2008 at 2:46 PM

This is nothing more than the last part of the plan to win this war.

These Militias either have to submit to the government, or be destroyed, you can’t leave them in place.

This is also a good sign as apparently the Iraqi Army is leading this… with American support. This is EXACTLY what we have been trying to do for the last 5 years… make it so the Iraqi ARMY can control its own country.

Yes, there will continue to be violence, and there will be an upswing in violence just prior to the American Election. The Islamists KNOW they can’t beat us militarily, but we can defeat ourselves at the polls… by allowing either of the Dems to win.

IF a Dem wins, the current Iraqi governments ONLY hope is to have an effective military force of its own in place, and have disarmed that majority of the militias…

Clock is ticking… for both sides.

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008 at 2:51 PM

fleiter on March 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I hope you are right, I fear that this round of Mahdi madness is little more than political infighting or a turf war. In Islam there is a term that describes the subscription to the acceptance of all Muslims as brothers and as such this shared belief outweighs or prevails over any contract, treaty or friendship with an infidel. My experiences have shown this to be true, when push comes to shove, earned trust can be the first casualty if a Muslim is forced to make a choice between Islam and Infidel.

dmann on March 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM

I hope the Iraqi Army wipes the desert with the insurgents….it would be such a huge boost to their morale and it would let us know that we are training them correctly. Come on Iraq….I believe in you!

SoCalInfidel on March 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM

but the Brits are nowhere to be found. Why?

Look at it as a test case or a “clinical trial” as to what happens whenever the adult supervision is removed from Iraq.

Isn’t this an extremely bad omen for an American troop withdrawal, under a would-be President Obama or Clinton?

Exceedingly bad. We need to stay there for at least fifty a hundred a thousand years until time itself comes to an end.

How would a country-wide draw-down be different than this local one?

Well let’s just step back and analyze this. Commander Guy said that the purpose of the surge was to provide the political breathing space needed for the Iraqi leadership to achieve a unified, peaceful Iraq. If “The Surge” has been very successful at all then it should be very different. Of course, on the other hand, if the Iraqis are just incorrigible.

MB4 on March 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM

I would like to extend what Romeo13
suggests by pointing out it was reported to be Shiite militias who bombarded the ‘green zone’ twice with rockets and motors.

This appears to have been too much for Maliki who has now sent in the Iraqi Army to clean up the neighborhoods. If this conclusion is accurate, then it is the Iraqi Government, and the Iraqi Army who have chosen to visit violence upon the militias, not the other way around.

This could be the beginning of the end, with the Brits reduced to observers.

The news reports being published are less than helpful as there doesn’t seem to be much detail, beyond ‘the sounds of gunfire’. Nothing about who is shooting at whom, nor why. Other reports indicate internecine warfare between militias; if true, what is the Iraqi Army doing?

I suspect it is the Iraqi Army, with US support that is putting the hurt on the militias.

rockhauler on March 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM

ah crap.. motors, mortars… whatever.
before the typo police catch it.

rockhauler on March 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM

The lack of Brits will be a big boost IF the Iraqi Army forces can crack down on the militias. The fact that Maliki is at the forefront of this operation is a very good sign.

As Romeo13 said above, if you want a stable country, these militias have to be dealt with conclusively.

Clark1 on March 26, 2008 at 3:23 PM

rockhauler on March 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM

LOL, had a great mental image of a Trebuchet, with a V8 in the sling…. and some Arab going…

“he did say bombard them with Motors…”

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM

How hard does the fighting have to get before he formally blesses it in order to avoid the appearance of his troops operating against his wishes?

If/when he publicly endorses the fighting: Predator/Hellfire on the way.

pseudonominus on March 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM

The Brits are a mess these days. Used to have some respect for them, not anymore!!!

jeanie on March 26, 2008 at 3:54 PM

How do you say “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.” in Arabic?

mojo on March 26, 2008 at 4:06 PM

which military group has the cajones to crush them?

U.S. Marines, who else?

max1 on March 26, 2008 at 4:08 PM

Nice. I love a good threat.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 26, 2008 at 4:45 PM

From the UK Mod website I posted:

What is the security situation like?

No one is under any illusions that the security situation in parts of Iraq is extremely serious, but levels of violence fell throughout 2007 and vary across the country.

Baghdad and its environs account for the majority of the violence in Iraq, but following action by Iraqis and coalition forces, security has been enhanced there. The security situation is better, particularly in the north and south where the situation remains relatively stable. In the four provinces within the UK’s area of operations – Maysan, Basra, Dhi Qar, and Al Muthanna – there is no anti-government insurgency or inter-sectarian conflict; the challenges are criminality, infighting between Shia factions, and the corrosive influence of the militias.

It’s not that the Brits aren’t there, it’s the definition of their role.

For better or worse, the issues that Steven Vincent wrote about back in 2005 were mostly criminality and the Sadr’s goons enforcing his religious courts. That’s why the Brits didn’t see their role in getting involved in it, re: policing and cultural infighting. Then AQ slipped in under the radar and set up shop and to the Brits credit they took off the gloves and kicked their ass! Now they are gone and the situation is pretty much back to the place it was when the Brits got there. I agree with Romeo and others, this is a good sign and test for the IA and will give Maliki some street cred with the Sunnis to take on the Shia.

Texas Gal on March 26, 2008 at 6:17 PM

As I see it, this may be the big picture: Al Qaeda is cornered in the Mosul region up north, with no way out of Iraq and with US and Iraqi forces determined to wipe them out. The other boil to be lanced is Basra, down south. Maliki, the Iraqi Govt and Army and the US Armed Forces see the end game in sight.
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Perseverence! This is the time for the US and Iraqi forces to pour it on, without respite, either in Mosul, Basra or in Sadr City area of Baghdad.
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Cleaning up Al Qaeda in Iraq and the Iranian proxy militias in the south as well as Sadr City is the end game of this war! After this, it’s an intermittent campaign of bombings and IEDs at worst.

DavePa on March 26, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Why is everyone freakin’ on this situation. If Malaki is giving ultimatums, then they must have the muscle not only by Americans but themselves. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have made this nice threat. Are we finally starting to see the Iraqi’s stand up? I’d love for active duty or family of active duty chime in on the status of the IDF.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 26, 2008 at 7:59 PM

What I’ve read (no, I’m not military) seems to say that the IA is fighting bravely and competently and winning, though with more losses than the US would take. One difference is that the IA doesn’t have any airpower, while American domination of the air and the air-ground ‘battlespace’ allows American forces to attack the militia/AQ/whatever from a position of great tactical advantage, with hard-to-hit helos shooting quite effectively at anything on the ground that stands out against the IR background.

Everyone who seems to know what he’s saying tells us that it will take five to ten years to build the base of noncoms that make a modern army work.

njcommuter on March 26, 2008 at 10:33 PM

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