Awesome: Hillary donors threaten to cut off DCCC if Pelosi doesn’t shut up about pledged delegates

posted at 7:59 pm on March 26, 2008 by Allahpundit

A shot across the bow of the Chosen Ones that if, in fact, they’re planning to muscle our gal out of the race, they should talk to Oprah beforehand about making up the shortfall they’ll soon find in their coffers for congressional Democrats’ re-election campaigns.

Perhaps I was hasty in thinking that a quick, coerced exit for Her Majesty is the surest way to sore-loserdom.

During your appearance [on ABC on March 16], you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd, whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party’s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984 as well as your own comments recorded in The Hill ten days earlier…

Super-delegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee. Both campaigns agree that at the end of the primary contests neither will have enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination. In that situation, super-delegates must look to not one criterion but to the full panoply of factors that will help them assess who will be the party’s strongest nominee in the general election.

We have been strong supporters of the DCCC. We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August.

Now all we have to do is sit and wait for the letter from the Obama donors threatening to cut the party off if they don’t follow the pledged delegates. Exit question: Let’s say she does, somehow, win the nomination. How many bridges will this sort of hardball crap have burned in the aftermath? Note the numbers, please.


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Goes to the kitchen to make some more popcorn.

rbj on March 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM

Sounds like what Reps did with $ to RNC. Didn’t change much.

JiangxiDad on March 26, 2008 at 8:05 PM

If you’re a Democratic party official, now is the time to make an investment in knee guards as it appears the kneecapping is about to begin.

moxie_neanderthal on March 26, 2008 at 8:09 PM

You can’t stifle Pelosi, she’ll just pop a few more pills and glasses of Cali Chardonnay. Remember how hammered she was at the last State of the Union?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 26, 2008 at 8:10 PM

The Clinton’s are gonna play ever angle and twist every arm to win. If they pull it off and steal the nomination, say hello to President McCain.

Ordinary1 on March 26, 2008 at 8:11 PM

The Queen Bee syndrome in full flight.

Keemo on March 26, 2008 at 8:12 PM

Note the numbers, please.

NBC in the tank for Obama

windansea on March 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM

One should think Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama ought to be kept as healthy and angry as possible right up to their convention. If I were Mr. McCain, I’d be sending crates of vitamins to both.

Scribbler on March 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM

So the will of the people is not to be taken into account? Shouldn’t the popular vote of each state decide how the delegates vote, ala the dem whining points after the 2000 election?

Please advise.

Bishop on March 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM

I start suspecting at some point DNC will simply hire a hitman. She’s becoming that much of a liability for the party. She’s technically right. If everyone should follow pledged delegates, why have superdelegates at all? However, her tactics aren’t winning her anything.

freevillage on March 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM

If she wins, it will be scorched Earth to purge her “party” of the “unfaithful”.

Zorro on March 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM

So, I guess that we can count out Pelosi as being a party leader?

windbag on March 26, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Exit question: Let’s say she does, somehow, win the nomination. How many bridges will this sort of hardball crap have burned in the aftermath? Note the numbers, please.

Will the bridges that are burnt be those connected to wealthy donors? Probably not. Obama’s money machine is people powered. Hillary has the machinery that runs the party.

What the Democrats will lose is the “I vote Democrat because I’m Black” vote. Go Hillary.

Theworldisnotenough on March 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Excellent.

/Mr. Burns

silverfox on March 26, 2008 at 8:30 PM

As for the difference on the Repub side JiangxiDad doesn’t notice – please check the number of self-funded campaigns on the Repub side of late. Start with Illinois’ perenial loser, Oberweis. For all his bucks, he’s not managed to buy (a) a senate seat (b) the govenors’ mansion (c) a representatives seat or (d) all of the above.

Mew

The answer is (d)

acat on March 26, 2008 at 8:34 PM

NBC in the tank for Obama

windansea on March 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM

They built the tank, occupy the tank, and maintain the tank. It’s embarassing. Or it should be.

SouthernGent on March 26, 2008 at 8:35 PM

As noted somewhere today, 90% of Obama’s edge in “popular vote” comes from Illinois. 60% of his edge in “popular vote” comes from Cook County. Take that away, and it’s a dead heat.

Maybe I shouldn’t use “dead” and “vote” and “Cook County” all in one paragraph, though.

NeighborhoodCatLady on March 26, 2008 at 8:39 PM

I want to see Hillary take that Party down in flames with her.

Dork B. on March 26, 2008 at 8:43 PM

As noted somewhere today, 90% of Obama’s edge in “popular vote” comes from Illinois. 60% of his edge in “popular vote” comes from Cook County. Take that away, and it’s a dead heat.

got linky? maybe Obama is like Kennedy :)

windansea on March 26, 2008 at 8:44 PM

got linky?

Sorry; too much random browsing today.

NeighborhoodCatLady on March 26, 2008 at 8:47 PM

If Pelosi’s not careful, she’s going to wind up as Hillary’s new coat.

Cicero43 on March 26, 2008 at 8:47 PM

However, her tactics aren’t winning her anything.

freevillage on March 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Not with libtards. On the right, she’s a hit.

JiangxiDad on March 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Sounds like what Reps did with $ to RNC. Didn’t change much.

JiangxiDad on March 26, 2008 at 8:05 PM

We’re talking major donors and fundraisers. Potentially millions held from the Democratic committees…just from them alone.

amerpundit on March 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

gore

reliapundit on March 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Coming this Summer……………

The Night of the Long Knives , Part II

Seven Percent Solution on March 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Actualy I maintain that what you are seeing the begining of the end for BOTH Major parties.

Repubs money is WAY down, as they are not doing what the base wants… and are Nominating a RINO… Nancy Reagan can’t really help, and no matter how much the Party Big Wigs rally around McCain… Conservatives see him for what he is…

Dems are in a Cat fight… between a Metrosexual Mixed Race person who has done NOTHING in their career (can’t even find his stinkin papers to tell us what he did as a state legislator)… and the Power Hungry Wife of an impeached President, who also has not done a dam thing in their life, except proove she has no scruples by staying married to a philandering husband…

Stand by, this is just STARTING to get ugly.

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Pelosi’s gonna need to buy a whoooole lotta flowers for this…

I’m honestly looking more forward to watching the Dem convention this year than the GOP one.

JetBoy on March 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM

I’ve never been so happy to be for McCain. Even though I was never for McCain.

If the dems can just keep this up till November. Kneels and prays.

Till then, I’ve bought stock in Orville Redenbacher. Either way, I can pop it or put it in my fuel tank.

Kini on March 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM

The republicans could win the house and/or senate back at this rate. Democrats, I love you, man. Thanks!

lorien1973 on March 26, 2008 at 8:53 PM

amerpundit on March 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM

And democrats rely on those big donors far more than republicans. So this is a painful threat.

lorien1973 on March 26, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Ed’s on now

windansea on March 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM

My god. She’s doing it.

She’s WINNING me over!

I’m beginning to LIKE Hillary Clinton!

And if she winds up destroying the party – or hey, just the Obamessiah – it may indeed bloom to love.

Vyce on March 26, 2008 at 9:00 PM

This is going to be a nasty stain I’m not sure
Nancy is going to be able to remove!

How many bridges,lets see,The Clintons asked for all the
support from all the Liberal groups,and then get their
vote,and for some strange reason the Clintons throw them
under the bus!

So,I think there going to be a lot of bridges gone,and at
the rate Hillary is going,especially superdelegates,the
banks that support the bridges will disappear as well!

canopfor on March 26, 2008 at 9:03 PM

This is gettin good. Think I’ll check to see if Abyss is on tonight.

oakpack on March 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM

Rhapsodeeee. But we need stay on high alert for the Algore Interplanetary Intervention, the upcoming nightmare scenario.

petefrt on March 26, 2008 at 9:18 PM

She has to be the long lost younger sister of that Applegate guy who was the leader of the Heaven’s Gate Cult that committed mass suicide in order to catch a ride on a time portal spaceship hiding behing the Hale-Bopp Comet. The crazy eye resemblance is too strikingly similar.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM

This sound clip from Animal House perfectly expresses my feelings toward this development.

thirteen28 on March 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM

This is starting to exceed my grandest hopes…

TheBigOldDog on March 26, 2008 at 9:49 PM

So the will of the people is not to be taken into account? Shouldn’t the popular vote of each state decide how the delegates vote, ala the dem whining points after the 2000 election?

Please advise.

Bishop on March 26, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Then why have Super-delegates at all? If they simply follow the vote of their states they would be redundant. They were put in place to exercise independent judgment to prevent nominating candidates that can’t win the general like McGovern. Now, you may disagree with the purpose and structure, as do I, but that is their purpose, obligation and responsibility.

TheBigOldDog on March 26, 2008 at 9:59 PM

If she wins, it will be scorched Earth to purge her “party” of the “unfaithful”.

Zorro on March 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM

If they “steal” this from Obama, that won’t be the only thing scorched. Count on it.

TheBigOldDog on March 26, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Remembering how pleased the Dems were with themselves for being so “progressive” that they had a woman and an Afr. Amer. running. Heh!

jeanie on March 26, 2008 at 10:01 PM

I wouldn’t have wanted to bet big on its getting to the present point, but like many I hoped. Now, maybe it really will happen, Hilzilla’s roaring shrieks and Obamadon’s thunderous groans, all the to Denver — maybe even beyond — all the way to November?

Just for instance, billionaire Mayor Bloomberg could run for VP on a third-party ticket with the one who loses the nomination. Bloomberg needs to be made to understand that, as VP and campaign bankroller, he would be well positioned indeed to help and influence whichever Dem to be a fantastically! better President than she or he might otherwise be, and Bloomberg of course will already understand also it is only through a third-party ticket that he could do this, the Dems will not nominate a recent Republican for VP.

The Denver convention need be nothing more than a pit stop, a speedbump, a flyspeck on the windshield.

ForNow on March 26, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Remembering how pleased the Dems were with themselves for being so “progressive” that they had a woman and an Afr. Amer. running. Heh!

jeanie on March 26, 2008 at 10:01 PM

It was the making of the perfect storm. They are nothing but a collection of special interests and as long as they weren’t in direct competition, everything was fine. Now, they have members of their 2 biggest special interest groups going head-to-head and it sets the conditions for this perfect storm.

TheBigOldDog on March 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM

A person could write a fiction political thriller novel about all the Dim’s are putting themselves through, and it wouldn’t sell because it would be viewed as impossible. One would have thought Star Wars was more plausible.

Wondering what happened to Romney’s stock in the Republican party?

Hog Wild on March 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Romney’s stock is going up.

cjs1943 on March 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Hmmm… Congress’s approval rating in the tank.

Presidents approval level not much better.

Disaffection in the Republican base…

Dems pulling their Party apart with internal politics, and puttin up unqualified candidates for President…

And, for the first time in history, over 1/3 of the electorate NOT part of the Two Major partys…

We need another option.

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Superdelegates-

Putting the Democracy in Democrat. Classic

Valiant on March 26, 2008 at 10:54 PM

How many bridges will this sort of hardball crap have burned in the aftermath?

she will still have China backing her… I mean, ‘independent Chinese business men’

Repubs money is WAY down, as they are not doing what the base wants… and are Nominating a RINO… Nancy Reagan can’t really help, and no matter how much the Party Big Wigs rally around McCain… Conservatives see him for what he is…

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008

See how pandering the to the middle pays off…

DaveC on March 26, 2008 at 11:07 PM

We need another option.

Romeo13 on March 26, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Some truth right there. 300 million people in this country and we only have two choices unless some billionaire decides to run as an independent? We should have at least 6 political parties in this country. That way the public can’t be so easily anylized and pandered to, a candidate may actually have to run on his own personal views.

Imagine the possibilities. Someone who say’s “I will do” and if he/she got elected actually went and did it. At the very least, it would make being a career politician a tough proposition at best.

Hog Wild on March 26, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Obama and Hillary…chick fight…

right2bright on March 27, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Well, Clinton won MA, but that’s not stopping Kennedy & Kerry from supporting Obama. She won NM, but that hasn’t made Richardson support her. Although I support Obama among the 3 in this race, the double standard is fascinating to behold.

Hopefully, this teaches the Dems not to fuck with GOP primaries 4 years from now.

infidelpride on March 27, 2008 at 1:26 AM

Super-delegates, like all delegates, have an obligation to make an informed, individual decision about whom to support and who would be the party’s strongest nominee

The phrase “informed decision” belongs nowhere near a piece about democrat politics.

How many bridges will this sort of hardball crap have burned in the aftermath?

All of them I hope.

labrat on March 27, 2008 at 2:10 AM

VOTE!

This Has Got To Stop!

heh

Connie on March 27, 2008 at 2:22 AM

And to think, just seventeen short months ago Nance was thinking she’d actually attained a position of real power!

Nancy, babe, it may be your ball, but what you fail to understand is that the Clinton’s own the damn stadium!

SuperCool on March 27, 2008 at 3:42 AM

Once again, Shillary proves that she has surrounded herself with what has become a confederacy of dunces. These idiots obviously think they are in a position to muscle even promiment members of the Democratic Party into coming around to their way of thinking. All they are doing is pissing off the wrong people, and I think that shortly, all this is going to come down on the Clintons big time. Their Day Of Reckoning has been coming for a long time, and with them pulling stunts like this, that day may be just around the corner.

pilamaye on March 27, 2008 at 7:54 AM

Nancy talks too much…

Wade on March 27, 2008 at 7:54 AM

Nancy Pelosi will be as inept and cowardly in this as she has been about everything else she’s done.

TooTall on March 27, 2008 at 11:04 AM

Vitamins and cases of Red Bull.

rightwingprof on March 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM