Heart-ache: Chelsea gets the Monica question
posted at 10:14 pm on March 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It’s Clinton Day at HA so we might as well put a bow on it. Fair game? The boss’s points are well taken but the cringe factor for me is simply too high. No need to rub her face in daddy’s shame when there are so many other important questions to be asked. Like, “Do you ever worry that pathological lying might be hereditary?” Or, “If Tuzla was too dangerous for your pop, how come he sent you there instead?”
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The only thing we should be discussing here is how ugly Chelsea is.
Help me out here, she’s an accident right? The chick has hair on her tongue.
revolution on March 27, 2008 at 5:26 PM
…and I don’t even want to know what’s under the clothes. Don’t even make me think of that.
Bill and Hill must have conceived her at Woodstock.
revolution on March 27, 2008 at 5:30 PM
…but I’m the bully…
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Madison, I’ve had enough of your belligerence. Knock it off with the profanity, asterisked or otherwise. I’m not going to warn you again.
Allahpundit on March 27, 2008 at 8:18 PM
…and his behavior goes untouched?
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Fine. When this blog descends to the title of the right-wing HuffPo, at least we can all rest assured it’s profanity-free.
MadisonConservative on March 27, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I don’t blame Chelsea for stumping for her mother. It’s just one of those things family members do. Even in the Clinton family.
I also support her refusing to answer a very personal question about her mother and father. As long as she does it politely. She really has no particular right to be outraged, though. You’d have to expect this sort of thing in politics. As any one of the Clintons and all on their campaign staff surely know.
Which is why I suspect this was a planted question, to let Chelsea express outrage at an inappropriate question. She did pretty well with that, and she’s now less likely to be asked the question.
If I’m wrong, then I may just be paranoid. If I’m right, we’re being a little silly to get tied up in knots over the issue.
theregoestheneighborhood on March 28, 2008 at 12:33 AM
I disagree that this was a personal question about her mother and father. To me such a question would be something like “Hey, how are you and your mom doing in the wake of your father’s infidelity?” or something like that. I realize it’s a fine line, but I think the question was about how Hillary Clinton handled the public fallout of the situation, and not about the situation itself…and it was in the context of Hillary Clinton’s case of her First Lady experience as groundwork for her to be President.
One other thing. If we’re to excuse Chelsea Clinton from campaigning for her mother because it’s out of family loyalty, then why should anyone take anything she says seriously? If she’s out there because Hillary Clinton is her mother, and not because she made her decision that Hillary is the best person for the job, then she’s being insincere in making her case. Isn’t excusing Chelsea’s campaigning as motiviated by family loyalty to dismiss everything she says as motivated by something other than her own 28-year-old opinions?
JohnTant on March 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Yes, but that happens all the time. Family loyalty is important to many people. I don’t take Chelsea’s word seriously because I know she would stand up for her mother just as I would stand up for mine. I love my mother, and I’m sure she loves hers as well, and often we let that connection color our judgment. That’s not a criticism of anyone’s will, mind you, just a confirmation of, essentially, a conflict of interest. However, there it is, and it will always be there.
Imagine your father or mother were running for office, and you perhaps thought someone else would be better. Could you really bring yourself to tell them that? Sure, some people can. Others can’t. Depends on the relationship you have with them. It’s not always an easy thing. I don’t know what Chelsea is thinking, whether she really believes Hillary deserves to be president or not, but if she doesn’t, maybe she just loves her too much to turn her down.
I think we need to all watch The Godfather and understand this a little better.
MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 9:51 AM
I thought everyone had left.
Which is why I decided this wasn’t something we could continue discussing, but for some reason you called me a hypocrite because of it.
Yeah, I wouldn’t have gone that far. The image of excrimite in a person’s mouth is just a bit much, especially after coworkers showed be “tub girl.” The Internet can be very disgusting.
But still, it’s nice to see that you can have a sense of humor.
Esthier on March 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I called you a hypocrite because you said that the question was fair, but you wouldn’t ask it. As I’ve said before, if there’s nothing wrong with the question, why wouldn’t you ask it?
MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Heh.
Speaking for myself, as a son I cannot imagine my parents bringing great pressure down for me to campaign for them against my wishes. It’s just outside of my perspective. I know this is going to sound self-serving, but I was raised to believe that while blood is thicker than water, respect must also be earned. If my father were caught schtupping an intern in our house and committed perjury about it while misusing his position to cover up the entire thing, I honestly can’t imagine him or my mother assuming that I’d be a part of any of it. Plus, ewww.
Anyway, my father would probably tell me that he wanted to run for office and that my support would mean a lot to him. But if I said I didn’t want to campaign overtly I’m pretty sure he’d respect that.
As a father, I similarly cannot imagine myself using my children as pawns to portray a particular image so as to secure my career.
Lastly, I think support comes in many flavors. I can certainly support my family in doing something without necessarily agreeing with it. But I think that support will tend to be behind the scenes, not actively campaigning and acting as a surrogate.
JohnTant on March 28, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Cheslie has learned much from her parents. However, dismissing a legitimate question that she put herself in the position to receive in such a cavalier manner seems to be a genetic trait.
MSGTAS on March 28, 2008 at 10:56 AM
I guess it just depends on your experience. I’ve known parents who were simply master guilt-trippers, and others who just plain pouted until their children did what they wanted. My parents are, thankfully, neither, but it certainly made me appreciate them.
MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:08 AM
I explained that. I personally wouldn’t ask an uncomfortable question of someone unless the person is a friend of mine or I’m drunk.
As I said, I’m perfectly sober and no Clinton can be called my friend.
As I said, I also wouldn’t have asked Chelsea about her trip “under sniper fire,” but surely that one would be a fair question since she was on the trip herself.
Esthier on March 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM
I guess I just don’t see that, then. If I see something as too personal and uncomfortable to ask a friend without the aid of alcohol, then I definitely can’t see it as proper to ask a relative stranger in public, unless that person themselves is running for office. Hence, I could see all fairness in asking it of Hillary, but not her daughter.
MadisonConservative on March 28, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Fine, if that’s how you feel, but what I’m trying to explain (though obviously failing) is that I wouldn’t even ask her mother.
I also wouldn’t ask McCain about amnesty or Obama about his racist pastor. That’s just who I am. It has nothing to do with the question being asked.
Esthier on March 28, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I’m uninterested in making a person feel uncomfortable, which is why I’d only ask questions like that under certain circumstances, like if we’re friends, meaning it won’t end in hard feelings, or if we’re drinking, meaning no one’s taking it too seriously in the first place.
By that same logic, I wouldn’t ask anything but a softball question.
Just to beat this point down (since you claim I dodged it earlier on the other thread even though I’ve been giving this explanation all along), I wouldn’t ask a single difficult or uncomfortable question of any politician. I don’t even see the need really.
I like it that some journalists ask tough questions of politicians, but even then, the person answering usually either dodges the question or just lies. So what’s the point? If I want to know the truth, I’ll just research on my own.
But again, this has nothing to do with the validity of the question being asked. It’s just about my personality, one that I’m glad most journalists don’t share. Those who do likely suck at their job.
Esthier on March 28, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Her daughter who is campaigning for her.
Jim Treacher on March 29, 2008 at 9:52 AM
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