Sorry, Klaus, but skeptics need to have more than “but it’s just a theory!!11!!!!1!” THAT’S a creationist argument, taken right off the blog for “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed”. Theories do not magically become facts. That’s not how science works.

Math_Mage on March 24, 2008 at 2:04 AM

But that is all the global warming zealots have. They have no data that supports there contention of CO2(man made)induced global warming. The Earth warms and it cools from time to time. So what. There is much more benefit to mankind with warming than cooling.

right2bright on March 25, 2008 at 9:24 AM

Are you on some medication? Seriously. Is someone looking after you? Because it’s getting frightening, actually.

I was quoting her because I was told earlier in this thread that she was a prominent skeptic of global warming. I did a quick search and found evidence she wasn’t so much critical of the idea of global warming as she was of the policies intended to mitigate its effect.

Lindzen isn’t the only faculty member here. I have already stated that there is no dispute some number of well respected scientists are skeptical of the idea. The overwhelming majority isn’t. BTW, Lindzen also thinks smoking doesn’t cause lung cancer.

it just seems like all the evidence shows there most likely is. BTW a brief research of her quotes (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jennifer_Marohasy ) doesn’t suggest she’s not so totally on the truthers’ side. She’s mostly concerned about senseless government policies, which I am too!

freevillage on March 25, 2008 at 12:28 AM

This is who you quote as an expert.

Batchelor of Agricultural Science to a Bachelor of Science and enrolled in everything from ethics to plant taxonomy.

I am paid for some of the columns and opinon pieces that I write for various newspapers and I charge a fee for some of the speeches I give.

This is your “climate expert”, and down the hall you have Richard Lindzen the most noted in his field, the most respected…and you choose her to quote, unbelievable.
Here let me use your line…qualifications…Richard does, she doesn’t, she is an “expert” in political environmental issues (like Gore only on the other side of the political spectrum), not a scientist.

Unwilling to do any of your own research, you blindly accept someone with ‘qualifications’? It’s certainly your choice to make. But I question the wisdom of such a choice.

Once you’re done with your independent research on meteorology, here’s another problem to ponder: “Given aviation fuel does not burn at high enough temperature to melt steel, please can someone explain how the steel columns of the twin towers melted?”

A quick search on the internets will get you entire teams of unabashed fellow explorers.

Well then I guess that takes you off of the “I’m intelligent” list.

:)

You didn’t even understand the quote you posted or anything I had written above.

freevillage on March 24, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Well then I guess that takes you off of the “I’m intelligent” list.
But then,I can understand how someone like Richard Lindzen could confound someone like you…I will put it in simple terms and type real slow for you… Lindzen… says… there… is… no… known… correlation… between… man… and… global… climate… change…
Now, please don’t ask who Richard Lindzen is, please…
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So, how many rooms at MIT do you clean in a day?

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t have to. You can choose to talk about climate, running a big business or how to run a marathon in 2 hours. Knowing nothing about any of these subjects I will still take the word of scientists’, CEOs’ or world class athletes’ over yours.

Read my lips. Q-u-a-l-i-f-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s. OK?

Bye.

freevillage on March 24, 2008 at 10:25 PM

This is the written equivalent to putting your fingers firmly in your ears and saying, “La la la la la la la la la”.

Unwilling to do any of your own research, you blindly accept someone with ‘qualifications’? It’s certainly your choice to make. But I question the wisdom of such a choice.

Of course is only the scientist that you select.

I mean, isn’t it obvious? If you’re a software engineer and I told you: your code sucks, wouldn’t your reaction be “Really? And who tf are you?” It’s a natural response and it’s not totally without substance.

The answer to your question is: I don’t know. I think it’s totally conceivable that there’s no global warming – it just seems like all the evidence shows there most likely is. BTW a brief research of her quotes (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jennifer_Marohasy ) doesn’t suggest she’s not so totally on the truthers’ side. She’s mostly concerned about senseless government policies, which I am too!

…don’t block this one with qualification arguments, please; it’s merely based on Dr. Marohasy’s comments, and I doubt you can cast serious aspersions on her credentials.

You still have not explained the olive trees in Northern Germany in the middle ages.

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t have to. You can choose to talk about climate, running a big business or how to run a marathon in 2 hours. Knowing nothing about any of these subjects I will still take the word of scientists’, CEOs’ or world class athletes’ over yours.

Read my lips. Q-u-a-l-i-f-i-c-a-t-i-o-n-s. OK?

Bye.

They chicken-littles are one step ahead of you…

They chicken-littles are one step ahead of you…

right2bright on March 24, 2008 at 9:56 AM

You didn’t even understand the quote you posted or anything I had written above.

Without even answering my question about whether you know Kelly? Harsh. Plus, you’re the only intelligent dissenter this post has.

Sorry. I barely know people next door.

Via Hot Air (ironically named, for this topic): An article in The Australian reports on a radio interview in which a representative of the Austrian think tank, the Institute for Public Affairs, acknowledges not only that the earth is no longer warming,…

freevillage on March 24, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Without even answering my question about whether you know Kelly? Harsh. Plus, you’re the only intelligent dissenter this post has.

We call that GIGO – Garbage In Garbage Out