The last Obama post of the week, hopefully; Update: 52% who heard speech less likely to vote for Obama?

posted at 4:57 pm on March 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

My Messiah-supporting pal Steve Sherman notes a trend in our blogging lately. Honestly, I’m bored with writing about it, although e-mail tips about new angles continue to trickle in. Let’s see if we can close the show with this one. Not a rant, just a redirect to a rant — namely, Ace’s on CNN analyst Roland Martin’s hacktacular apologia for Wright’s 9/11 sermon. You need to read Bob Owens’s update here to appreciate how dishonest Martin’s selective quotation is, but laying aside the source, what exactly is the argument? That celebrating the glorious karmic payback delivered by St. Osama is fair game so long as you’re quoting Ed Peck, a Reagan official, when you do it? Old old old-school HA readers might recall that Peck has popped up on this site before. The Reagan administration wasn’t the only one he worked for, and the chickens coming home to roost isn’t the only “nuanced” opinion he holds when it comes to jihadist elements.

To come full circle with the quote from his speech that I found so irritating on Tuesday, if Obama sincerely believes the great national conversation on race can’t wait a moment longer, why didn’t he use the bully pulpit of being a presidential candidate to start it last year? Why now, if it’s not just a cynical attempt to distract attention from his own scandal? The obvious answer: Because to force a discussion of race then would have it made too easy for Hillary to ghettoize him as a “black candidate” before the primaries. He held off to preserve his chances. That’s fine, but contrast his approach to race with McCain’s approach to Iraq. As far back as eleven months ago, before the surge results were in and doom awaited any candidate who dared take a hawkish line, Maverick was telling audiences that he’d rather lose the election than lose the war. The issue came first, his own political ambitions came second. There’s a little character comparison worth mulling. And since we’ve already had one exit question today that’ll be asked forever, here’s another: If the Wright thing had never blown up, would Obama have ever delivered this allegedly urgently important, historically significant meditation on race? You think?

One more. How come Spitzer didn’t think to take this approach with his own scandal? He could have delivered the Great Speech on Gender that had been gestating in his soul for decades, born at last unto the world by the shock of him getting caught handing a hooker four bills to work him over. “I can no sooner disown ‘Kristen’ than I can disown gender in its entirety.” The SNL skit writes itself.

Update: See what I mean about new angles? Pay attention to Karl’s last paragraph, as it’s the most important one.

Update (Ed): I generally post on items that interest me. Stephen, who’s a great guy, counted 22 Obama posts in three days, which accounts for a little less than a third of the work AP and I did over that period of time. I don’t apologize for that; it was a dominant story with a multitude of further developments. If more come, I’ll probably comment on those, too. I don’t feel compelled to either write about or not write about any particular topic based on the level of existing commentary that precedes it.

My specific issue with Fox was focusing two hours on one particular development — the “typical white person” comment. If we did three posts on that point, I’ve missed at least one of them.

Update: Karl was promising another new angle in the comments. Here you go. Chris Matthews will be inconsolable.

Most startling is that blacks by 56% to 31% said the speech made them less likely to vote for him. That may be because Obama had some gutsy perspectives on blacks as well as on whites, and black observers of the speech may have been annoyed. But it’s hard to imagine that there’s going to be an appreciable retreat by blacks from the Obama column.

Democrats disapproved 48% to 28%, which looks sobering for Obama on first glance, but might portend otherwise. If blacks irritated by Obama’s remarks will return to the fold, than impressing whites is probably a more vital read on the numbers. And Democratic whites were more sympathetic with the speech’s message than black ones.

The disturbing numbers for Obama are the independent voters. By 56% to 13%, they said they’re less likely to vote for him because of the speech.

Read the Politico story about the bar in Pennsylvania if you haven’t yet.


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I think that, by the time the election rolls around, very few people are going to be interested in voting for Hussein.

Akzed on March 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I’m not finished with this story yet. I would like to know if the teachings of Obama’s church and the Rev. Wright have been reflected in how he votes on issues. Since he doesn’t have a long track record in the US Senate, how about when he was a senator in Illinois?

Just a “typical white person” wanting to know.

moonsbreath on March 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Some of Wright’s beliefs had to have been downloaded, but even if they were minimal, why would a reasonable man remain in such a church if he at least din’t mind if people knew it, and drew reasonable conclusions?

Akzed on March 22, 2008 at 4:27 PM

moonsbreath on March 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Wright claims that evil & greedy white America keeps the Third World living in “grinding poverty.” Obama is currently sponsoring a bill in the Senate to give .7% of U.S. GNP to the United Nations (on top of our already substantial foreign aid) to combat “global poverty.”

Wright claims that evil & greedy white America denies equal schooling and job opportunity to blacks. Obama supports more Affirmative Action and Racial Preference programs, to “redress wrongs” done to blacks in the past. (In 1996, Obama made a radio commercial in Michigan urging voters there to reject a ballot initiative making it illegal for the state government to give an advantage to certain minority applicants in the awarding of state contracts or the granting of admission to state schools. Despite Obama’s efforts, the ballot initiative passed, overwhelmingly).

These are just a couple of examples. There are probably many more.

AZCoyote on March 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM

The previous three posts,

moonsbreath on March 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM,
Akzed on March 22, 2008 at 4:27 PM,
AZCoyote on March 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM

point up nicely the central question:

To what extent does Obambi the Prophet share the not-so-Reverend Jeremiad Wright’s crackpot conspiracist theories, whacko history, Marxist social views, and racial bigotry?

By simply attending the church for over 20 years, contributing tens of thousands of dollars to it, and by not explicitly disavowing, point by point, all of the extreme, radical, perverted, anti-American propaganda spouted by Wright over the years, we must conclude that Obambi not only shares these views but endorses them.

In this case, we must further conclude that electing him President would cause incalculable damage to the United States of America.

The job now is not just to point this out to the conservative choir on sites like this, but to make sure that the 100 million people who are going to vote in the presidential election understand the danger fully.

MrLynn on March 22, 2008 at 7:23 PM

MrLynn on March 22, 2008 at 7:23 PM

It’s a question of his judgment. He’s not qualified in the least.

At this point, I would rather see Obama get the nomination. Hillary would be finished and relegated to talk shows. Obama will get trounced in a manner only Mondale can be compared to.

Run Barry run!

Mojave Mark on March 23, 2008 at 1:15 AM

Correction to 4:29 post: Obama’s radio commercial urging Michigan voters to reject an anti-affirmative action proposal was recorded in 2006, not 1996.

AZCoyote on March 23, 2008 at 8:22 AM

There are 10 (!!!) stories about Obama on the front page here. I don’t read any of them. I don’t care about him any more. I hope he’s finished. Ugh…

PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on March 23, 2008 at 9:07 AM

There are 10 (!!!) stories about Obama on the front page here. I don’t read any of them. I don’t care about him any more. I hope he’s finished. Ugh…

PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on March 23, 2008 at 9:07 AM

Unfortunately, unless Missus Slick can win most of the remaining primaries convincingly, which is very unlikely, Obambi the Prophet will have the Democrat nomination.

And if the economy sputters until November, and/or John McCain experiences a few more ‘senior moments’, Obambi will win the Presidency.

Sandy, we have a problem.

MrLynn on March 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Trinty’s new pastor is complaing about a media lynching, I think they might know what they are talking about as I recall some of these same people, were involved in a Media Lynching last April….yeah chickens are coming home to roost. Obamas got bigger problems the Nesting “yard birds”

http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=5&id=30&Itemid=127

Dr Evil on March 23, 2008 at 7:57 PM

MrLynn on March 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM

McCain is VERY appealing to Dhimmicrats. I say he wins big. Barry O just won’t cut it with the non-metrosexual crowd. He’s a wussy boy and Americans don’t like that. I wouldn’t worry about him winning. Besides which 1/5th of Dhimmis have already said that they won’t vote the big O. We’re beginning to see he’s just another racist in a world full of racists.

Mojave Mark on March 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM

I love being part of a group called “blacks”.

Zaire67 on March 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM

Ed,

I’ve read that Obama’s church published a Hamas manifesto on the Pastor’s page. Have you got anything on it?

Nozzle on March 23, 2008 at 9:21 PM

McCain is VERY appealing to Dhimmicrats. I say he wins big. Barry O just won’t cut it with the non-metrosexual crowd. . .
Mojave Mark on March 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM

I hope you’re right.

What we really need is a tape (video or audio) of Obambi repeating some of those wild-eyed crackpot ideas and racist propaganda himself. Maybe some renegade member of that church could be induced to part with one. . .

Of course, we can presume that the Missus Slick campaign is working hard to find that kind of smoking gun.

MrLynn on March 23, 2008 at 10:47 PM

McCain is VERY appealing to Dhimmicrats.

If he was appealing to the Republicans as well, he’d be a lock. As it is… not as easy to say. You’re assuming all the people who have issues with McCain will “get in line”, but assuming the Democrats with issues with Obama won’t do the same…

This election is shaping up to be a win for whoever’s base is less de-motivated. Both sides seem likely to be somewhat/moderately disappointed with their candidate.

Not having a VP/incumbent running should up turnout, but I’d bet the last 2 Pres. election year turnouts beat this one.

gekkobear on March 24, 2008 at 6:02 AM

At this point, I would rather see Obama get the nomination. Hillary would be finished and relegated to talk shows. Obama will get trounced in a manner only Mondale can be compared to.

Run Barry run!

Mojave Mark on March 23, 2008 at 1:15 AM

Why would you think that? The MSM and even Fox News, are afraid to look at Obama sideways for fear of being called racists. McCain has already said he and his camp will not run a mud-slinging campain (even if the accusations are true.) What makes you think anything will change after Obama is nominated? If he is nominated, he may simply skate right into the WH, put there by people who are afraid to challenge him on the issues.

kcd on March 24, 2008 at 11:26 AM