Poll: Obama’s lead over Hillary down 11 points from last month; Update: Hillary within one in North Carolina?
posted at 3:30 pm on March 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Incompetent Clinton lackey Mark Penn espies “some significant developments in the last few days in the polling data” while being careful not to mention the elephant in the room. A 14-point lead pre-Ohio and Texas is suddenly a three-point lead according to, errrr … Zogby. Any reason to trust that result given its provenance? Yeah: Gallup puts Hillary’s national lead now at 49-42; six days ago she trailed Obama by six. Geraghty also notes some new highs in unfavorables for the Messiah, although the increase is modest.
Needless to say, the real test will be tomorrow’s dailies, which will incorporate reaction to the speech. Exit question: Obviously the Wright stuff (ahem) is working for her. If the numbers start ticking back his way, how long can she wait before trying to force it back into the media? If she holds whatever she’s got until just before the Pennsylvania primary (or just after, with North Carolina and Indiana a week later), she’ll take as much flak from the media for dirty tricks as he will for the sermons. I figure she’s got maybe two more weeks and then after that she’ll be blamed for whatever else he faces in this vein.
Update: Wow. It’s just one poll and just by a single point but that’s the first lead she’s had in the state since December. NC’s his post-Pennsylvania safety net; if she beats him there and in Indiana, i.e. his backyard, what do the superdelegates do then? Is Billy Jeff right?
Update: Oops — I misread that NC poll. He’s still ahead, but just by a point. I’ve changed the headline but the basic point remains. And what if that rumored Edwards endorsement suddenly comes through for her?
Update: If you want to see an even more dramatic swing, follow that link to the Zogby write-up and see how McCain’s doing these days against Obama versus how he was doing a few weeks ago.
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Gallup puts Hillary’s national lead now at 49-42; six days ago she trailed Obama by six.
Sweet. Go Klinton! Go lesser of three evils! (Leastist?)
By the way, I LOVE that picture of Hillary!
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 3:35 PM
You’ve been dying to use that, haven’t you?
All I can say is, whatever keeps them in a knife fight all the way to the convention, and gives the Republicans as much ammo as possible to use against them in the general.
ReubenJCogburn on March 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Someone needs to explain to me the context of that Hillary picture
Mattpat11 on March 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Yeah, that photo of Hillary cracks me up.
Django on March 19, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Bones: “He’s dead, Jim.”
Kirk: “Can I get toast with that?”
Bugler on March 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Which poll has Hillary winning in Carolina?
Mattpat11 on March 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Obama is up one point in that NC, not Clinton.
ninjapirate on March 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM
It appears as if Obama’s chickens are coming home…to roost.
Enrique on March 19, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Does anyone besides Hillary think it’s possible for her to win the Dem primary? That’s not rhetorical. I thought it was pretty much a given that Obama would win, even if his numbers go down.
Because now I’m rooting for Obama. As Michell wrote today, the mystique is fading and mystique is pretty much all Obama had. And McCain’s numbers are going nowhere but up.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Wow, I misread the NC poll too!
Could it be they changed it, or is it our positive leaning imagination?
Aristotle on March 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
Good one.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
“I’m the designated rural hitman in the campaign, because I feel at home,” Clinton told one audience today.
OOOOH. Shall we parse those words?
Buy Danish on March 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
It happens.
That’s the good thing about the internet, you can correct your mistakes quickly.
terryannonline on March 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
above: Michell = Michelle
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM
I don’t know how these delegates work. If she wins Pennsylvania, Indiana, and North Carolina (all big states), shouldn’t catch up with him delegate wise then?
terryannonline on March 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM
29Vic, I dunno, I still think McVain has a better chance against Klintoon, but you’re right about his unstainable facade … it’s been stained … just not the same Herself’s husband is.
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Surely the Kovert Klinton minions are furiously investigating every racist connection Obama’s ever had, and this window of opportunity to expose his hypocrisy on racism mustn’t be wasted by the Klinton machine. Meanwhile, McCain and the GOP establishment absolutely can’t touch the issue in any way shape or form, that’d be racist, dontcha know..
Of course, following this little media kerfluffle, there’s the Rezco trial and 527 action to come… Man, this is only fun till Obama gets hurt, politically. Then it’s Hilarious!!
Fishoutofwater on March 19, 2008 at 3:47 PM
As a NC DINO for McCain, I’ll be voting. (No one has polled me yet.)
It’s such a bizarre feeling to know that my vote might actually matter.
NeighborhoodCatLady on March 19, 2008 at 3:47 PM
Good question. I’d like to read some good analysis on that–it’s ‘way over my pay grade to figure it out. The prospect of a mortally wounded Obama gaining the nomination looks pretty appealing to me.
Bugler on March 19, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Wright makes White…sit up and take notice? (bad, I know)
Way to back yourself with so many polarizing people, Obama. They are all gonna start coming out of the woodwork now that the media smalls blood in the water. They built a pretty high pedestal to knock you off of, so remember to tuck and roll.
ej_pez on March 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM
smalls = smells
ej_pez on March 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM
The prospect of a mortally wounded Obama gaining the nomination looks pretty appealing to me. - Bug
True. However I think if Herself wins, a lot of Black Voters will stay home and the Dems HAVE to get their 90% of the Black Vote or else they can’t win. (That is, unless even *more* ConPub Voters ‘teach the GOP a lesson’ and stay home).
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Yes, Bugler - and Klinton has to inflict the mortal wounds NOW while he’s really vulnerable. I don’t think the Dhims have the stones to hand Hilary the nomination at this point, regardless of what wounds are inflicted or anything else. The spectre of Obama’s flock rioting in Denver is just too terrible to contemplate for them.
It will be a mortally wounded Obama vs McCain, who is wisely remaining above the fray on this one.
Fishoutofwater on March 19, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Just found this article linked from Drudge. Dick Morris is saying that Obama has won the nomination already. Of course, he had been saying that Hillary was going to be our next president.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Keep the fight alive.
Bravo, Operation Chaos (nurturing cannibalism and cognitive dissonance to deconstruct left wing memes).
petefrt on March 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Still time for the dims to change their minds on whom will be their nominee.
Republicans, not so lucky.
MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
“I’m the designated rural hitman in the campaign, because I feel at home,” Clinton told one audience today.
Yea, we need the ‘hitman’ back in the White House…which reminds me. I had a dream that the Clintoons won and that they painted the WH red. Perhaps it was a premonition of the hitman line. A little Sopranos/Sweeney Todd with the obvious red light district reference imagery. It goes well with the vid of HRC as a Sith.
BTW: Enrique, you slay me…;-D
Christine on March 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Republican voters should NOT have crossed over and voted for Hillary. What is happening now was my greatest fear. She is going to win this thing and it is going to be largely the fault of those who thought giving Hillary new life was a good idea. As we are seeing now, Obama is a much weaker candidate then his immense hype initially led the majority of us to believe. He is simply not yet ready for prime time.
Now, not only are we stuck with the Clintons in ‘08, but Obama will be back in 8 years stronger then ever and will have a secure foothold as the front runner in the next election. We should have jumped at the opportunity to face Obama NOW. Eliminate the Clintons NOW. Now its too late.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 3:55 PM
I don’t care what dick morris says, the whole purpose for having superdelegates is a situation like this. Most superdelegates are elected officials. The last thing they want is to help nominate a nonstop scandal machine and at this point barry looks like more trouble then hillary. All her scandals are old and known. The superdelegates don’t want to be held responsible when it is time for their own reelection.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 3:57 PM
I’m usually with you, but this time I don’t understand. Roughly half the country hates her, many indies like McCain, and many blacks will likely sit out the election if she’s the nominee. How do you figure she’ll win?
JiangxiDad on March 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I disagree. This primary season has been so unpredictable. Things can change today or tomorrow. Who knows what will happen? None of do.
Although, I think when Silky and Bill Richardson endorse, we might have a firmer grasp in the way the super flying delegates are going.
terryannonline on March 19, 2008 at 4:02 PM
So you think the superdelegates will overrule the popular vote?….delicious.
Re-create 68 (please).
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
Girlfriend standing behind her, giving her a little pat, maybe?
RushBaby on March 19, 2008 at 4:03 PM
” We should have jumped at the opportunity to face Obama NOW. Eliminate the Clintons NOW.” - Zet
“Roughly half the country hates her, many indies like McCain, and many blacks will likely sit out the election if she’s the nominee.” - J.Dad
Good points by both of you. There are interesting times we live in, no?
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
They are between a rock and a hard place. Don’t forget, though, that not so long ago it was believed that hillary would clean up the floor with any republican nominated. They may decide to fall back on the old reliable clinton war room and lose a close election to mccain because alot of black voters stay home then lose a landslide because most of the return of the Reagan Democrats. Alot of the superdelegates are black so they may gamble that they can be out front of the dump barry movement.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM
So, um, Allah, could you run that by me one more time about what a spectacularly shrewd politician Mr. Freefall-In-An-Empty-Suit-Without-A-Parachute Obama is?
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Anyone find anything in Hillary’s White House schedule yet?
ABC did!
Hillary Was in White House on ‘Stained Blue Dress’ Day
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4482242&page=1
Brat on March 19, 2008 at 4:10 PM
They may also gamble that they will hold congress in 2008 and they can get the black voters back by the midterms and keep control of congress.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Neither candidate can secure the nomination before the convention and Hillary is bound to trail in pledged delegates even if she picks up momentum going foward. And both Hillary and Obama appeal to different segments of the democratic base that are becoming increasingly antagonistic toward each other. Whoever wins will thus alienate part of their base. Plus BHO has to continue to spend the massive amount of money he has raised. As does Hillary. Whoever emerges will therefore be weaker and easier to beat.
phronesis on March 19, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Girlfriend standing behind her, giving her a little pat, maybe? - RushBaby
HAAAaaaa! That face looks more like a nice hard squeeze! We oughta have a caption contest!
Mine is:
“Hillary Klinton, you’ve just won the democratic nomination! Whattaya gonna do now?”
“I’m goin’na Disney World!”
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 4:12 PM
I think you guys are also forgetting that the Dems have been fighting each other lately. But when they get their nominee they will be able to go after McCain. They will paint him as just like George Bush (who most of this country sadly doesn’t approve of) and they will scare people by saying if you vote for him you are getting a “100 years” more of war. It just might work. Let’s not be too quick to predict who will when in November.
terryannonline on March 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM
No kidding. Election in bizarro-world.
Bugler on March 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Browser Helper Object? One more reason not to like him, those things can be nasty.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Sure, but they are getting awfully pissed at each other lately. I don’t think that it will be all sweetness and light the day after the convention. The nominee is going to have to fight to get back the other candidates supporters.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:16 PM
“… and they can get the black voters back by the midterms …” - PnP
And we need to work on that as well. When Black Voters get a clear message about what the ConPubs are really all about, we get Black Votes. Ohio 2006 proved that. The problem is that ConPubs view everybody as an individual (not that that’s a problem, that’s the way it should be) and LibDems view everybody as a member of a group. Black Voters respond better to group politics and the media/education have made it seem like the Pubs are racist, when in reality ConPub policies are better for Black Voters than the LibDem nannystate policies.
Tony737 on March 19, 2008 at 4:19 PM
The American electorate has a much shorter memory then you are giving them credit for. I have been skeptical from the start about the longevity of the African American voter revolt as a result of the Clinton victory. Sure, initially there will be an intense backlash and there will be many proclamations eminating from the Afro American community about staying home on election day but things will settle down. The collective memory is far too short. As soon as the campaigns get back in full swing they will be right back on board the Clinton freight train. Hillary Clinton is the most dangerous political figure of our lifetimes. She has been for the last 2 decades. It pains me to think about the fact that we had her pinned to the ground with our boot on her neck and gun to her head and we just let her get back up. In fact we voted for her to get back up. This is a woman who has zero shame. Zero morals. She will stop at nothing in order to accomplish the devistating things she wants to get accomplished. Scandals roll off that woman as if she was made of teflon. They are all old news (even if they are new). This election is the Dem’s to lose. The political game board is slanted steeply in favor of the Dem candidate this year. I don’t care what the polls say. You can forget about the fact that half the nation hates her. She will only need to convince a small portion of that half to turn out on election day to cast a vote for her in order for her to win. The Clintons are dying to take us up on that challenge.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Well, not to speak for him, but it’s not out of the question.
Thing is her negatives have been dropping and her positives have been rising. And they’ve been rising amongst the very types Obama’s been turning off, working-class and union whites.
To many, if she emerges victorious from this she’s going to be seen as a courageous and indefatigable fighter. And in particular that narrative just might–might–resonate with a lot of women who usually don’t vote and draw them to the polls in significant enough numbers to offset the Dem’s loss of however many blacks actually do stay home.
Plus, I think Barry’s going to drop like a rock from here on out to the point that it’s going to be pretty obvious by early May that he’s unelectable. That means that depending on just how damaged he is, Hillary can either offer him a spot on the ticket, or won’t need to.
If she does and he refuses, then she can say she tried and it was him who refused the call to “unity.”
If she does and he accepts, then the blacks are still on the team.
If he’s such damaged goods that she doesn’t even need to, then everyone who propped her up when she was ready to fall got just exactly what they wished for.
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:21 PM
A-MEN, brother!
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Sure. But if they get scared by claims if you sit out we will get John McCain who’s a warmonger and wants to starts wars all over the place! They supporters of the loser might just end up NOT staying home.
terryannonline on March 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:21 PM
go
hillarybarryJiangxiDad on March 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM
I understand the strategy phronesis. My point is, after accepting the fact that part of the Dem base is going to be alienated whatever the final result of the primary, it is going to be a temporary alienation. It will not last. The collective memory is far too short. They will all be back on board with the nominee in no time at all. It is no different then the extreme alienation many Republican voters feel with a John McCain nomination. Shamnesty is and was one of the most divisive and passionate issues ever batted around by the voters and now here we are. Right back on board. We are saying thank you sir may I have another. The Dems will do the exact same thing. The alienation will be temporary and short lived despite how passionate it may be.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM
If the RNC really wants to do battle with Hillary rather than Obama, then they should start putting out teasers now saying no one’s gonna believe the dirt we have on this guy that we’re keeping in our holsters until the general election. Whether they have it or not, it could push the Dem Superdelegates back to Hillary out of fear of what surprises might be in store with Obambi leading the charge.
Better to go with the one who’s failings you know and who’s closet full of skeletons has been vetted already.
fogw on March 19, 2008 at 4:26 PM
I can’t believe I am in a state that actually means something in this election.
If Hillary gets nominated, move out of the inner cities…we going to see some unruly activity…uncivil protests…unauthorized marches…oh hell, we gettin some riots.
right2bright on March 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Yes JiangxiDad. Go Barry.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Who would have known that barry would implode like this? He was looking more dangerous then she was and had to be slowed.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM
They certainly are Tony. There are many moving parts at work and the outcomes are very difficult to predict. Fascinating stuff.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Yeah, well…
Just suppose Barry’s nominated and he loses a close election.
*Shudder*
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Not so sure about that. In 8 years, Obama will have developed a much more extensive voting record than the one he has now. He’s an ultra-liberal (e.g., supports partial-birth abortion, supports gay marriage, supports affirmative action and racial preference programs, supports giving @ $1 Trillion U.S. tax dollars to the U.N. to combat global poverty, etc.), and when voters see his actual record, it’s going to turn a lot of them off.
Also, he’s been campaigning on the promise that he can “unite” people and get things done — even though he has absolutely no record (so far) of doing so. In 8 years, he won’t be able to use the rookie Senator defense anymore.
AZCoyote on March 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Easy to predict the ouccome.
The next Prez will be Obama, Hillary or McCain.
We are scroomed.
MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Lots of us did. I think I’ve been pretty consistent and said at the time of the whole keep-Hillary-alive frenzy that–if memory serves: Come November, Obamamania’s going to be about as fashionable as the Macarena. We don’t vote for gods in this country, we vote for Presidents, and to average voters, his worshipful crowds are going to seem just plain creepy.
Plus he’s always been nothing but a doctrinaire liberal.
We really should have more faith in our own message.
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:42 PM
What made me begin to realize that the Obama star was fading was the piece written by Charles Krauthammer a few weeks back (around the introduction of operation chaos). It really got me thinking. His thesis was that the Obama implosion was only a matter of time and he predicted it would happen shortly after he received the nomination. It seems to have started a bit earlier then C.K. thought it would. The red flags were there. Signs of vulnerability began to pop up and I wish we had taken immediate notice of them because now Hillary would be dead and Obama would be fading fast. Its too late for that now though.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Zetterson
I don’t know that I agree with that point.
One reason that blacks overwhelmingly vote Democrat (and why many turned from the Republican party in the first place) is that somewhere, in their collective subconscious is the fact that (the perhaps ironically named Barry) Goldwater, the Republican nominee for president, opposed the Civil Rights Act.
While this may be expressed and remembered and understood as “Republicans opposed the Civil Rights Act” (when actually, more Democrats did), what they mean is that our nominee opposed it. And the memory of that one perceived betrayal has overridden 100 years of Republican pro- and Democrat anti- civil rights legislation.
If the DNC scuttles the nomination of the first serious black candidate for president, for whom black Democrats overwhelmingly voted. Thus depriving blacks simultaneously of both their vote and of the highest office in the land. That betrayal is not quickly going to be forgotten.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Grrr. Yup. As usual MB4. You are correct.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Another factor ignored by the media, half those polled usually say they will never vote for her. Keeping her alive will just afford her more time for missteps and for that old arrogance to show itself. If this knocks barry out of the race, just wait and see what kind of condescending, backhand insult bubba gives him that will alienate black voters further.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Yep. Obama is all pop and no kick. He’s the stock market bubble just waiting to burst. The best thing that he had going for is him was that no one knew anything about him.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Yep. And algore and kerry were great statesmen and patriots.
peacenprosperity on March 19, 2008 at 4:52 PM
That is all true 29Victor, but we are in different times now then we were back then (during the time of the Civil Rights Act). Sure, our candidate opposing the Civil Rights Act planted the seeds that have grown years and years of political support for Dem candidates amongst black voters but now black voters support Dems for different reasons. Now the Dems pimp the politics of entitlement and handouts via gvt programs and services that give rise to a population of victims bereft of any personal responsibility whatsoever. They have put a ton of effort into making African Americans dependent upon government. Now they are addicted to it like a drug. The civil rights act is a thing of the past. Now when black voters go to the polls and cast their votes in favor of the Dem candidate they are not doing it because they are still holding a grudge against Barry Goldwater. They cast their votes for Dems because they want the government to give them stuff. Believe me when I say, they may pound their fists against the table and stomp their feet for a few days, but as soon as Hillary starts dangling those beautiful taxpayer funded “presents” (remember her Christmas advertisement?) in front of their faces, they will be back in her corner faster then you can say the words “crack addict.”
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I don’t think it will help her much. The good people of NC don’t think much of Edwards. I’m not sure if he would have carried NC if he was still in.
BacaDog on March 19, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Without Operation Chaos, Obama might never have been vetted. Most dem faithfuls will vote for either one, what Op Chaos does is force the media to stand behind the lib they prefer, which means they take sides and vet all the candidates…a new concept in modern american politics.
Liberals and conservative do not decide elections, independents do. This fight between Hill and Ob shows independents who these two really are. If a dem wins after all, after all the fighting, a dem would have won anyway, only it would have been a landslide, now it won’t be. Op Chaos is all good, we might even win some seats in Congress now.
JustTruth101 on March 19, 2008 at 5:09 PM
That is very well said. I hope you are right.
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 5:13 PM
*Chuckling*
Well, you guys keep believing that if it makes you feel better.
But it isn’t true.
Who was it that pushed the Wright story up from the depths until it finally had no choice but to break the surface?
Sean Hannity.
You really want to tell me he wouldn’t have done it anyway?
No. Just like the Swiftboats, this would have gotten out, MSM or no. Once again and with feeling: There’s nothing to Obama!
That’s what galls me about everyone who was so scared of him. There’s not one single thing he can fall back on. Nothing.
No record of achievement at all.
I don’t know if Hillary will win, but what I have always been confident of is that we would have beaten Barry like a rented mule.
Typhoon on March 19, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Operation Chaos put the liberal press from both sides against each other, plus the bonus of Dems crossing from one side of the aisle to the other. Each election is better than the previous one!
Ropera on March 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM
But Mark McKinnon and Senor Juan Hennessey McVain have already said that they don’t need nor want “ConPub” voters…so then we should let “The Party” teach us, we the people, a lesson? I don’t get it.
Branch Rickey on March 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM
For all of those who predict riots, any predictions about whether Barack will be able to magically quell them as soon as they start with his message of hope and unity?
Buy Danish on March 19, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Zetterson on March 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I have been watching Dems screw over blacks for decades now. Keeping them in flailing schools, helping to destroy the black family, disagreeing with them on pretty much every social issue. And I keep hoping that their eyes will open up and they will see on whose side their best interests really lay. But it never happens.
Maybe this time, maybe not. Only time will tell.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Granted, both of them were horrible, but neither was an empty suit.
They actually had records of public service and platforms that they ran on. Obama has nothing but the glow. His record is crap and his platform (such as it is) is far left of most of America.
29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Hillary will not become the nominee even if Barack loses the rest of the way. Speaker of the House Nancy will see to it, Hillary will not become the nominee. Nancy wants to be the Queen Bee. Nancy will lose the statues she is enjoying right now if Hillary becomes the nominee.
BroncosRock on March 19, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Geez - both of these candidates are severely flawed.
So long as McCain continues to stay under the media radar with his mouth shut he’ll win by default.
McCain is the new Chancy Gardner.
Dorvillian on March 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM
We have a big vote for governor here in NC this year. There is a large amount of exasperation with our dear democrat governor re: illegal aliens. If Hillary ends up with the nomination I can foresee the NC Republicans getting 20% of the black vote at least.
Or maybe I’m a pollyanna.
SouthernGent on March 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM
I live in Charlotte and not many people liked Edwards. Even the liberals have mixed feelings on him. The places he has big popularity, the coast and the wealthy parts of the Triangle (Raleigh-Durham), seem like the two battlegrounds for Hillary. I’d say that the Triad and Charlotte (includes Charlotte, Winston Salem, and Greensboro–three predominately black cities) go pretty big for Obama. I hate to play identity politics and say that most blacks go for Obama, but…..look at Mississippi.
malan89 on March 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Please, whatever you do….DON’T BE FOOLED BY PAT McCRORY!!! If you don’t live near Charlotte, you may not know how big a RINO he is. Google Lynx Light Rail. This guy is a BIG spender.
malan89 on March 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Her big moment here is going to be short-lived. With the way the news media outlets are all salivating over B.O.’s speech, it will be only a matter of a couple of days until he is leading by big numbers in the polls, while she slowly fades away into the night.
pilamaye on March 20, 2008 at 7:16 AM