Huckabee wonders: How come the left never gave Falwell the benefit of the doubt?

posted at 2:41 pm on March 19, 2008 by Allahpundit

Eh, don’t get too excited. Most of this latest backslapping session with Scarborough is spent defending Obama and even Wright himself, whose coming of age during Jim Crow entitles him to the occasional “burn, World Trade Center, burn” gloss on the gospels. A heartfelt show of support or is Huck working an angle? We’ll never know, just like we’ll never know what was running through the Messiah’s mind during those “controversial comments” he now cops to having heard, but let’s just say it’s no surprise that a future presidential candidate who’s been conspicuously coy about the content of his own old sermons would prove to be a big stickler for “larger contexts.” That goes double in the wake of the Hagee uproar: If Huck squeaks through in 2012, the left will put him on the hook for every crackpot thing ever said by an evangelical preacher. (McCain’s already on the hook for every crackpot utterance by talk radio hosts, whether he denounces them or not.) Consider this preemptive damage control.

Stick with it to the very end of else you’ll miss how far Scarborough’s willing to go vis-a-vis cultural grievances.


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He had to ask?

James on March 19, 2008 at 2:49 PM

That goes double in the wake of the Hagee uproar

Must have missed that…

Tom_Shipley on March 19, 2008 at 2:50 PM

“Obama handled this as well as he could?” Obama won’t address why he put up with Wright for 17 years.

Huckabee is right that there’s months until the election and Wright probably won’t be crucial if Obama gets the nomination.

As to Scarborough sort of accepting wishes of Reagan’s death it’s one thing to acknowledge resentment but it’s another to accept it and not stand firm against it. I can understand why Wright is full of rage, but such rage as a religious leader doesn’t advance anything.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Falwell never got the benefit of the doubt because he’s a Christian, whereas The Obamassiah is, er, a member of a Christian church.

rbj on March 19, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Politics is Politics.

Religion is Religion.

They don’t mix well at all.

EJDolbow on March 19, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

As to Scarborough sort of accepting wishes of Reagan’s death it’s one thing to acknowledge resentment but it’s another to accept it and not stand firm against it. I can understand why Wright is full of rage, but such rage as a religious leader doesn’t advance anything. seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 2:52 PM

I agree on both parts. You can understand where resentment and hatred comes from, but it moves into a whole new level of hate when it comes to celebrating the possible death of a president like when Reagan was shot.

Similarly, I can appreciate where Wright may have come from when blacks were forced to the back of a bus, or to use the back door …. but for pete’s sake – it’s 2008 already. … 2008. The most widespread, rampant and horrific racism – institutionalized racism I see today is not coming from white America. It is coming from people like the Rev. Wright. In 2008.

wise_man on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I think most of the HHouseflies got squashed, or buzzed off.

RushBaby on March 19, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

You killed it with:

Eh, don’t get too excited. Most of this latest backslapping session with Scarborough is spent defending Obama and even Wright himself

brtex on March 19, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Sure Obama can’t be held responsible for that Wright says, but you don’t keep going back to his church for 20 Years!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM

“Cut them some slack!” They’ve had slack cut for them for 40 years…how much slack is there?

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 19, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Oh, let’s keep that fat blowhard Falwell out of this. Don’t shift the debate, Huck.

Tzetzes on March 19, 2008 at 3:12 PM

By the way, my 16-month-old nephew loves the Teletubbies, and they have an excellent, calming effect on him. So far, there’s no indication that they’ve given him teh ghey. (If anything does, it’ll probably be soy!)

Tzetzes on March 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Huckabee:”I’m probably going to be the only conservative in America who’ll say this…”

Unfortunately, you’re not a conservative. And, by the way, how does a Christian say, “I’d probably have a chip on my shoulder too?” I thought we thought sin (lies) was wrong, end of conversation?

Where the —- did we find this guy, anyway?

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM

IIRC Jerry Falwell loved the United States of America.

This isn’t about theology but rather a man who hangs with and financially supports AMERICA HATERS wanting to be POTUS.

P.S. Huckabee is a blooming idiot.

EJDolbow on March 19, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I thought this was weak, on Huck & Joe’s part.

someguy on March 19, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I’ll add that I’m not surprised; the MSM gets the guy who thinks illegal immigration is the new slavery to comment on race relations. Great idea, guys.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

The game is over. McCain won. Moreover Mac’s daughter said Huck wasn’t going to be his running mate. So Huck is no longer relevant to any discussion really. Listening to Huck now is like listening a media star going around burnishing his media star. Hard to get worked up about him now.

Spirit of 1776 on March 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

You forgot something:

Exit question: Huck/Falwell ticket in 2012?

Hollowpoint on March 19, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Did you all ban the Huck tr–, er, fans? Haven’t seen them for a bit.

baldilocks on March 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Hey, AP. Did you check the last poll numbers? They rock!

Hill leads in…NORTH CAROLINA!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

Aristotle on March 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Where the —- did we find this guy, anyway?

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM

He’s like the stray dog that followed you home when you were a kid. Now he just won’t go away!

brtex on March 19, 2008 at 3:23 PM

the proper analogy to Wright is not Falwell or Hagee…its Phelps at Westboro baptist church.

jp on March 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM

A heartfelt show of support or is Huck working an angle?

The Huckster’s always working an angle. That’s what shameless pandering snake oil salesmen do, after all.

ReubenJCogburn on March 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM

How come the left never gave Falwell the benefit of the doubt?

For the same reason that the right doesn’t give Wright “the benefit of the doubt”.

Blood.

Falwell is the rights crazy uncle in the attic and Wright is their crazy uncle in the attic.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM

How come the left never gave Falwell the benefit of the doubt?

Wait. Don’t tell me. I know this one…

29Victor on March 19, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Translation:
“lookitme!” – Mike Huckabee

TBinSTL on March 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Actually Mr. Right himself never gave Falwell “the benefit of the doubt”.

“Every good Christian should line up and kick Jerry Falwell’s ass.”
- Barry Goldwater

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM

I don’t have any respect for the Religious Right (or Left [updated]). There is no place in this country for practicing religion in politics. That goes for Falwell, Robertson {Huckabee, Wright [updated]) and all the rest of these political preachers. They are a detriment to the country.
- Barry Goldwater

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Did you all ban the Huck tr–, er, fans? Haven’t seen them for a bit.

baldilocks on March 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM

That’d be redundant, they’re all living off the grid now, waiting for the End Times.

doubleplusundead on March 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Exit question: Huck/Falwell ticket in 2012?

Hollowpoint on March 19, 2008 at 3:20 PM

That would require a miracle since Falwell’s dead. Huckabee better start praying now.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM

That would require a miracle since Falwell’s dead. Huckabee better start praying now.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Err… oops- I meant his son. Or nephew. Or something. Maybe.

Hollowpoint on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Go Huck!

After Huckabee is selected as VP(because Mccain will not be able to win without him), Mccain will finally be able to win the presidency.

Then in early 2009 when McShame tries to force the revamped amnesty bill through again…Mccain will be impeached and America will finally have a great president!

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM

I am so sorry I was led away from supporting Rev Huckabee here at HotAir, where he was trashed repeatedly and treated like a liberal whore.

He’s a good man, one who can forgive and one who really does practice The Golden Rule.

He is an Atticus Finch and we lost a great opportunity to have him as our nominee.

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Again he’s too much of a real Christian for this group, not enough Stone Cold, they want blood and guts, like a steel cage match.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:12 PM

As to Scarborough sort of accepting wishes of Reagan’s death it’s one thing to acknowledge resentment but it’s another to accept it and not stand firm against it. I can understand why Wright is full of rage, but such rage as a religious leader doesn’t advance anything.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Well, isn’t this rage typical for religious leaders? I see no evidence that religion has ever improved people’s behavior relative to issues like anger and temper. There are many mild-mannered atheists and many ill-tempered, hateful Christians. Please note that I’m not arguing that no one has ever done anything good out of religion. I’m just saying that religion doesn’t appear to me to affect the basic decency of a person–except for Islam’s commitment to lower the decency of its believers. The Islam exception makes sense because it’s far easier to make decent people monsters than it is to make monsters decent.

thuja on March 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Moreover Mac’s daughter said Huck wasn’t going to be his running mate. So Huck is no longer relevant to any discussion really. Listening to Huck now is like listening a media star going around burnishing his media star. Hard to get worked up about him now.

Spirit of 1776 on March 19, 2008 at 3:16 PM

The Huckster needs to get himself a new gig.

Al Gore lost and went on to Global Warming and his net worth has gone from a reported million to a reported 100 million.

Maybe the Huckster could get a hair growing of cancer fighting gig and ride that.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM

Maybe the Huckster could get a hair growing of cancer fighting gig and ride that.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:22 PM

Do you need to be so unkind?

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

That’s because of the extreme bias displayed here towards Mike Huckabee.

Haven’t you noticed the huge drop in hits on this website since you banned/demonized the Huckabee supporters?

Threads used to have an average of 400-1,000 comments each… now it’s more like 30-100 comments on average.

Unfortunately for you, you are probably losing millions in advertising revenue because of this.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

After Huckabee is selected as VP(because Mccain will not be able to win without him), Mccain will finally be able to win the presidency.

Then in early 2009 when McShame tries to force the revamped amnesty bill through again…Mccain will be impeached and America will finally have a great president!

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM

They should deliver the news with training wheels for Huckabee supporters.

Huckabee will not be McCain’s VP choice, that is why he stayed in the race and milked his media whoring for all it was (and is) worth.

EJDolbow on March 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM

That’s because of the extreme bias displayed here towards Mike Huckabee.

Haven’t you noticed the huge drop in hits on this website since you banned/demonized the Huckabee supporters?

Threads used to have an average of 400-1,000 comments each… now it’s more like 30-100 comments on average.

Unfortunately for you, you are probably losing millions in advertising revenue because of this.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Exactly, why the hate toward Rev Huckabee??

I don’t get it, he’s on our side for heaven sake. You know this site is becoming more and more like DU and Huff Post everyday. The hate and vitriol is amazing.

If not at Angelina Jolie, it’s Mike Huckabee, there for a while it was toward McCain. Let’s see who it will be next.

Mike Huckabee was our best hope, he’s the real uniter, in the flesh.

And yes you are losing millions.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:31 PM

Do you need to be so unkind?

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Unkind?

Get real.

Here is a much better example of unkind -

Huckabee heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.” He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.
Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not.

He singled out Holt, who often talks of his strong Christian
beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don’t make false accusations against somebody.

Gov. Mike Huckabee Thursday denounced a bill by Sen. Jim Holt that would deny state benefits to illegal immigrants as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.”

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM

They should deliver the news with training wheels for Huckabee supporters.

Huckabee will not be McCain’s VP choice, that is why he stayed in the race and milked his media whoring for all it was (and is) worth.

EJDolbow on March 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Again, more of the same against a man that did nothing wrong, he dared to run for President. Wow, burn him at the stake why don’t you while you’re at it.

I’m sick of this hate.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM

I’m sick of this hate.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM

“Physician”, heal thyself.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Unkind?

Get real.

Here is a much better example of unkind -

Huckabee heaped criticism upon immigration legislation in the Arkansas Legislature, describing it as “inflammatory . . . race-baiting and demagoguery.” He also challenged the Christian values of its main sponsor.
Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not.

He singled out Holt, who often talks of his strong Christian
beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice. My faith says don’t make false accusations against somebody.

Gov. Mike Huckabee Thursday denounced a bill by Sen. Jim Holt that would deny state benefits to illegal immigrants as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.”

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM

You what? You are exactly what is wrong with this country, more of the same, separate, fight, condemn, accuse.

And what exactly have you done, what’s your big claim to fame besides sitting on HotAir all day spitting out nasty diatribe like a malfunctioning Wingnut Pez Dispenser?

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Huckabee wonders: How come the left never gave Falwell the benefit of the doubt?

What did the left accuse Falwell of that was based on his associations with other people and not his own words?

freevillage on March 19, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Why is Huck sort of defending Wright? You hit the nail directly on the head with the reference to Huck’s own sermons.

I don’t know for sure everything Huck said, but I can venture a guess that some of this Baptist minister’s sermons over the years would be considered “controversial” in 2008, and certainly by 2012.

For the record, I don’t hate Huck. I am an evangelical who did not vote for him, and don’t consider him an authentic conservative. Of course, McCain isn’t either as far as I can tell….

cs89 on March 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM

I’m sick of this hate.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM
“Physician”, heal thyself.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:37 PM

“Wingnut” heal thyself.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM

“Wingnut” heal thyself.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Now, now, don’t get yourself all upset.

Besides I don’t have wings. Maybe The High Reverend Huckster could get me some. He’s got a special in with Jesus I hear.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM

It’s easy to see why so many of the people here hate mike Huckabee…It’s obviously his policies like

NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens.

End legal immigration from islamic countries.

Abolish the IRS and the socialist income tax.

Send ahmadinejad to “the gates of hell”.

Fix the education system destructive liberal brainwashing system.

Make the United States 100% energy independent within 8 years at most.

Prevent socialist medicine.

You know clear cut liberal positions like that…Mccain is so much more conservative than him.

Or then again, maybe they hate him just because he’s a Christian.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM

You what? You are exactly what is wrong with this country, more of the same, separate, fight, condemn, accuse.

And what exactly have you done, what’s your big claim to fame besides sitting on HotAir all day spitting out nasty diatribe like a malfunctioning Wingnut Pez Dispenser?

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM

I can tell that you are really upset now. Maybe you should pray for salvation some more.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:47 PM

That would require a miracle since Falwell’s dead. Huckabee better start praying now.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM

Huck/Zombie Falwell 2012?

doubleplusundead on March 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Or then again, maybe they hate him just because he’s a Christian.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM

It is very easy to tell where the hate is coming from.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Now, now, don’t get yourself all upset.

Besides I don’t have wings. Maybe The High Reverend Huckster could get me some. He’s got a special in with Jesus I hear.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:45 PM

Blah, blah, blah, you’re beyond hope.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Blah, blah, blah, you’re beyond hope.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

That is a very unchristian attitude.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:54 PM

I can tell that you are really upset now. Maybe you should pray for salvation some more.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 4:47 PM

I guess that was directed at my religion now.

Whatever, you’re a hopeless. Go wallow in that wingnut close-minded fever swamp, swat your flies all day stinking up the place with your hate.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM

“Deep resentment” aka “Blind ignorant hatred”
It don’t matter if your black or white.

RobCon on March 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM

And Mike Huckabee never brought his releigion into the race at all.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:58 PM

You know what, I’m ready to be a little more open to Mike Huckabee when he decides to apologize for the damage he did to the Arkansas GOP, his populist demagoguery, his atrocious behavior to Arkansas state Senator Jim Holt, his “Shi’ite Republicans” line, his inclination toward Nanny Statism, and his big spendah ways as governor. Till then, I don’t feel sorry for him.

doubleplusundead on March 19, 2008 at 4:59 PM

And Jim Holt supported Ron Paul, so stop, please.

He sure did drink a different kind of Jesus juice, indeed.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Whatever, you’re a hopeless. Go wallow in that wingnut close-minded fever swamp, swat your flies all day stinking up the place with your hate.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:55 PM

You are the one spewing hate.

Are you so blind with all your hate that you can’t even see that? I guess so. So sad.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Haven’t you noticed the huge drop in hits on this website since you banned/demonized the Huckabee supporters?
SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

I have nothing to do with Hot Air aside from leaving comments, but yeah- the average IQ has gone up a few points lately in the comments. Glad to see someone else noticed.

Hollowpoint on March 19, 2008 at 5:15 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

That’s because I showed up late for the party on this one, but I blame extreme sleep deprivation and exhaustion. Better late than never though. Who wants to dance?

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM

You are the one spewing hate.

Are you so blind with all your hate that you can’t even see that? I guess so. So sad.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Hmmm, typical wingnut banter, you can dish it out but I cannot defend myself.

I was answering your attack on Huckabee, on myself and St. Olaf, plain and simple.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 5:21 PM

To SaintOlaf and AprilOrit (and whomever else is on their side):

As a Christian, I’m appalled at the insinuation that being anti-Huckabee is being anti-Christian. Once upon a time, the church had principles, and we weren’t sucked under by snake-oil salesmen who peddled liberalism in virtually every area (literally – how’s that ‘social conservatism’ gelling with ‘I don’t want to remove evolution from the textbooks’?). Don’t slander HotAir readers as being anti-Christian just because they recognize a phony when they see one. The bias against Rev. Wright and Rev. Falwell is not anti-Christian, either; it’s rational (I personally liked Falwell, sort-of, but that’s for another thread). Doctorates in theology aren’t get-out-of-jail-free cards for idiocy.

It’s not Christian-like to call people names, to insinuate blasphemy, to imply damnation. That’s for the worldly people; you’re supposed to be better than that.

Stop whining like a bunch of babies and suck it up. This is debate. If you can’t win an argument, don’t blame the heathens. (And I say that with the utmost love and respect for my agnostic/atheist HotAir commenters.)

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

That’d be redundant, they’re all living off the grid now, waiting for the End Times.

doubleplusundead on March 19, 2008 at 3:56 PM

What you talkin’ bout doubletrouble …

Waiting?

Waiting for the end times?

Dude.

We’re already IN THE END TIMES!

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Falwell said a couple of goofy things in his lifetime (teletubbies), but there’s no way he was hateful. Everyone who knew him–even his enemies who knew him–testified of his love, patience, & kindness.
But to some, just being on the right makes one hateful.

jgapinoy on March 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM

I am so sorry I was led away from supporting Rev Huckabee here at HotAir, where he was trashed repeatedly and treated like a liberal whore.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 4:12 PM

You go girl!

PS — Oh, yeah, the other thing: it’s called EDS (Evangelical Derangement Syndrome). Several posters here have it. Fortunately, it’s not contageous, but those who have been diagnosed are in treatment right now. Just a few years ago, patients were often forced to swallow up to 30 pills a day, and these frequently caused serious side-effects. In the past few years though, there has been significant progress. Now treatment is shock therapy and one-pill, one-a-day medicine. It marks a significant change in the treatment of the disease. We wish them all the best.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM

To SaintOlaf and AprilOrit (and whomever else is on their side):

As a Christian, I’m appalled at the insinuation that being anti-Huckabee is being anti-Christian. Once upon a time, the church had principles, and we weren’t sucked under by snake-oil salesmen who peddled liberalism in virtually every area (literally – how’s that ’social conservatism’ gelling with ‘I don’t want to remove evolution from the textbooks’?). Don’t slander HotAir readers as being anti-Christian just because they recognize a phony when they see one. The bias against Rev. Wright and Rev. Falwell is not anti-Christian, either; it’s rational (I personally liked Falwell, sort-of, but that’s for another thread). Doctorates in theology aren’t get-out-of-jail-free cards for idiocy.

It’s not Christian-like to call people names, to insinuate blasphemy, to imply damnation. That’s for the worldly people; you’re supposed to be better than that.

Stop whining like a bunch of babies and suck it up. This is debate. If you can’t win an argument, don’t blame the heathens. (And I say that with the utmost love and respect for my agnostic/atheist HotAir commenters.)

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

We can have our own opinions and say what we want.

No one is ok with you guys, everyone is a liberal, everyone is not wearing a thick enough hair shirt to pass the test.

And I was only defending Mike Huckabee, not Wright or Falwell at all.

I do not support their kind of fire and brimstone, I have never condoned that kind of hate filled rant, blaming everyone and anyone for what’s wrong with life in America.

Mike Huckabee was attacked and burned at the stake here just like on Huffington Post, they burned him over there too.

So what makes you guys different than the posters over there anyway??

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM

As a Christian, I’m appalled at the insinuation that being anti-Huckabee is being anti-Christian.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Not in all cases, but in many. Boy, are you naieve.

Once upon a time, the church had principles, and we weren’t sucked under by snake-oil salesmen who peddled liberalism in virtually every area

Cheap shot. And an outright lie.

Don’t slander HotAir readers as being anti-Christian just because they recognize a phony when they see one.

Another cheap shot at Gov. Huckabee.

It’s not Christian-like to call people names

LOL! Read above. Are you always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?

That’s for the worldly people; you’re supposed to be better than that.

Uh, huh. Gotchya! Thanks for the advice.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM

We’re already IN THE END TIMES!

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

And I think I can prove it.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Falwell said a couple of goofy things in his lifetime … but there’s no way he was hateful. .. But to some, just being on the right makes one hateful.

jgapinoy on March 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM

You’re right, and don’t forget that. Stick to your guns.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:42 PM

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM

In the first place, explain why the LEft hailed Huckabee as the new Right-wing leader, if it’s anti-christian bias against Huck.

In the second, the church used to be noble and good, committed to ideals, and would not have thought of endorsing someone who proclaims slavery to be equivalent to the current immigration policy.

It’s not a cheap shot at Huckabee; his campaign is based on a lie, that he’s a “conservative” that can fill the void and be “our man” in Washington. It’s not the same as calling someone a wingnut.

By the same token, calling a phony a phony isn’t name-calling. Calling someone who disagrees with you a “wing-nut” is name-calling.

Your move.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice….Beetlejuice

windansea on March 19, 2008 at 5:47 PM

As a Christian, I’m appalled at the insinuation that being anti-Huckabee is being anti-Christian

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Not in all cases, but in many. Boy, are you naieve.

Let me ammend that. Not all, but some people who hate Huckabee do so strictly because of his Christian faith.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 5:49 PM

In the first place, explain why the LEft hailed Huckabee as the new Right-wing leader, if it’s anti-christian bias against Huck.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:46 PM

The left did NOT support Huckabee. I can’t believe you used that argument. The left hailed Huckabee…. what a joke. That is a complete myth. Did you see the CNN and MSNBC Republican television debates? They wouldn’t let Gov. Huckabee speak!

MSNBC Republican debate.

Total Speaking Times
Romney: 21:11, during 13 times
McCain: 16:00, during 13 times
Giuliani: 13:50, during 11 times
Huckabee: 12:11, during nine times
Paul: 6:31, during six times

And the CNN one with Andy (bias) Cooper.

Mitt Romney was given 17 questions.
John McCain was given 15 questions.
Mike Huckabee was given 11 questions.

The main stream media was forcing McCain and Romney onto us as the only candidates that we have to choose from. So whatever kind of point you were going for, you missed.

In the second, the church used to be noble and good, committed to ideals, and would not have thought of endorsing someone who proclaims slavery to be equivalent to the current immigration policy.

You’re taking Huckabee’s comments out of context. He never meant it like you portray. Talk about bearing false witness — lying (9th Commandment). They already had laws dealing with immigration in Arkansas. He was talking about new laws for the purpose of demagoguery. And I’m strong on immigration and even building a border fence if necessary.

It’s not a cheap shot at Huckabee; his campaign is based on a lie,

Calling Huckabee a snake-oil salesmen who peddled liberalism in virtually every area is not a cheap shot? Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted.

By the same token, calling a phony a phony isn’t name-calling.

It is if you’re wrong about the man.

You never answered, who did you support?

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice….Beetlejuice

windansea on March 19, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Why did you say that? Now I can’t reach my keyboard.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 6:10 PM

Haven’t you noticed the huge drop in hits on this website since you banned/demonized the Huckabee supporters?

Threads used to have an average of 400-1,000 comments each… now it’s more like 30-100 comments on average.

Unfortunately for you, you are probably losing millions in advertising revenue because of this.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM

I’m just the messenger here so don’t shoot me, but if you just click on the site-meter icon below left, you can see that HotAir will probably reach a record high of visits this month. They are a little over half-way into the month with already 4.5 million visits – only 500k or so behind the two highest months of Jan. and Feb.

Rod on March 19, 2008 at 6:17 PM

In the first place, explain why the LEft hailed Huckabee as the new Right-wing leader, if it’s anti-christian bias against Huck.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 5:46 PM

The Left hated/hates Huckabee, again you guys are basing all of your opinions on assumptions and conjecture.

And he never made his religion an issue.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 6:19 PM

And he never made his religion an issue.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 6:19 PM

I’m going to regret this, but….

Floating cross ad?

Jesus & Lucifer brothers?

FWIW, I’m an Evangelical Christian & supported Thompson until he dropped out.

cs89 on March 19, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Rod,

Even IF you are right about that….500,000 or 1,000,000 per month less is still 6 million to 12 million per year!

As for advertising revenue.. that could potentially account for $6-12 million less annually.

Considering that many internet based businesses trade for 25X multiple, that could account for potentially $150 million to $300 million decrease in the market value of the company.

Michelle should be furious.

Now try to imagine what kind of impact it would be if Juan decided NOT to have Huck as his VP…….you would be watching the inaugeration of President Hildebeast Clinton.

Mccain needs the evangelicals…without us he will lose.

Mccain selecting Huckabee as VP is the only way that he will be able to get the evangelical vote.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 6:35 PM

The cross did not bother me, it was during the holidays. And we never established if it was intentional anyway.

Look, I am a jew and I am willing to cut anyone some slack during Christmas. I mean it’s Christmas, it’s the season for crosses, so is Easter.

But he didn’t throw it in people’s faces. he did not wear his religion on his sleeve.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 6:37 PM

I just feel Mike Huckabee was not given a fair chance here, he was treated the same way he was treated on Huff Po, DU, Daily Kos, he was not given any kindness, he was thrown to the lions before he even had a chance, and that’s unfortunate.

He should have been treated with a little more respect, he was among friends here and people treated him so unkindly, it’s hurtful at best.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Yes that would be terrible if Mike Huckabee acutually is a practicing Christian and running for office…..we certainly wouldn’t want an honest man as president.

We want a sinner, who lies and is easily influenced by the devil…like Mitt Romney or Mccain or Hildebeast or Hussein O.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM

thuja, it may be because I grew up with calm (some would say boring) Lutherans but I don’t find religious leaders full of rage as the norm.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 6:48 PM

SaintOlaf, if McCain picks Huckabee as his VP I’ll have given up all hope that he cares about winning over his conservative critics.

seanhackbarth on March 19, 2008 at 6:52 PM

Why did you say that? Now I can’t reach my keyboard.

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 6:10 PM

the horror…the horror

I’m a movie buff

windansea on March 19, 2008 at 6:54 PM

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 6:35 PM

As I say, I’m just the messenger. Their traffic has increased by over 250% in the last 12 months. There is no IF about it, unless of course you choose not to believe the numbers. See for yourself here.

As for Michelle, I have no idea if see is “furious” or not with these numbers. However, I can say that if the site were mine, I’d be very pleased.

Rod on March 19, 2008 at 6:55 PM

It’s a fallacy to say that all or many black churches practice the kind of malcolmX/nation of islam inspired hatred that Hussein Obama’s “church” practices.

I have been to many black churches and that is not the case.

Look at one of the best and most famous black churches…. Rev. Creflo Dollar/World Changers ministries….he has a huge and majority black church and he is NOT an Obama supporter and would never condone Hussein O’s support of gay marriage or abortion or racism.

Imam Wright’s “church” is considered heretical,non Biblical and is really just a political action group with ties to nation of islam.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Yes that would be terrible if Mike Huckabee acutually is a practicing Christian and running for office…..we certainly wouldn’t want an honest man as president.

We want a sinner, who lies and is easily influenced by the devil…like Mitt Romney or Mccain or Hildebeast or Hussein O.

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 6:42 PM

That is why I said he was our last hope, he was honest, he was candid, he was a compassinate Conservative who believes in helping those who are the most in need.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Regarding the others I have no idea if they were influenced by the Devil, but I knew Rudy was not what he said he was, his divorce was horrible.

I believe marriage is for life, I am engaged and my man is a lifer for me. Ahnd if I felt differently I wouldn’t be planning my wedding.

I would love a President who at least has not cheated on his wife, wouldn’t that be refreshing for sure.

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 6:56 PM

Huckabee is such a mental midget. Again he reminds me what I don’t like about when religious people go into politics.

The only reason Huckabee defends Obama/Wright is because he too is an identity playing politician of the highest order. That’s why he understands it and accepts it, it’s not because of any great wisdom or that there is a logical aspect to that kind of thinking. He just sees himself in it.

sheryl on March 19, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Satan Huckabee is such a jack@ss. HA HA HA!! What a clown. Thanks to the airheads down south, we will NEVER be rid of this goober.

Roger Waters on March 19, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Wow, I’m surprised a thread on Huckabee and Wright has fallen this flat. I guess Huck’s not the traffic-getter he once was.

Allahpundit on March 19, 2008 at 3:04 PM

I think most of the HHouseflies got squashed, or buzzed off.

RushBaby on March 19, 2008 at 3:05 PM

…and now that all the loser HHouseflies are gone…you have the floor for yourself!…Ooooh! i cant wait!. this is going to be exciting! i’ve been waiting so long for you to get this place all to yourself. (getting my popocorn!…got my finger on the “Print Screen” button!) ;-)

HunnyWaggin on March 19, 2008 at 7:41 PM

apacalyps on March 19, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Perhaps it’s too late, I had to leave, but I support Alan Keyes.

And, proportionally, Huckabee spoke more than Romney.

P.S. Frank Rich loved Huck.

emailnuevo on March 19, 2008 at 9:32 PM

And, by the way, how does a Christian say, “I’d probably have a chip on my shoulder too?” I thought we thought sin (lies) was wrong, end of conversation?

Ever hear of, “If not for the Grace of God…” It’s responding as a human being aware of human frailty and our sinful condition. It seems a ton of people are carrying a chip on their shoulder just because Huckabee ran a campaign and beat their guy or in their mind cost their guy.

Huckabee is smarter than most here give him credit for. What he did with his statement on Wright was not so much defend Wright as to defend a lot of other people who sympathize with his anger even if they’d never use his repulsive words.

adamsweb on March 19, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Mike Huckabee was attacked and burned at the stake here just like on Huffington Post, they burned him over there too.

So what makes you guys different than the posters over there anyway??

AprilOrit on March 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM

We are not as lucky as they are.

The posters over there probably don’t have some hysterical person like you telling them what evil haters they are and accusing them of burning people at the stake. That would be for starts.

MB4 on March 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Falwell vs. Wright? Now that’s a really bad comparison.

When did you ever hear Falwell do any race-baiting? When did Falwell attack his own country? When did Falwell encourage people to be the victims, because America was against them?

The closest thing you could find is probably shortly after 9/11, when Falwell tried to tie the attacks to moral decay in the nation, a comment for which he apologized days later. As he should have.

No, he wasn’t perfect. He occasionally said some foolish things. But he was always sincere, always patriotic, and never hateful.

theregoestheneighborhood on March 20, 2008 at 12:06 AM

Then in early 2009 when McShame tries to force the revamped amnesty bill through again…Mccain will be impeached and America will finally have a great president!

SaintOlaf on March 19, 2008 at 4:09 PM

What are you smoking dude? I’d really like some. I’m one of those who will be holding her nose when voting for McCain. If he were dumb enough to put the Huckster on the ticket with him, I don’t know if I’d be able to stifle my gag reflex long enough to cast a vote.

For those of us who Googled Huckster when he first appeared on the political scene last fall, we discovered that he’s very much PRO-amnesty. Oh I know he put out a pretty paper trying to refute that fact, but most of us weren’t fooled. Try Googling Huckabee/LaRaza, that was quite a speech he made calling his fellow citizens bigots and racists. He jumped thru hoops to get a Mexican consulate in Little Rock. What, pray tell does Little Rock need with a Mexican consulate?

While you’re at it, Google Huckabee/ethics complaints……yes that’s complaintS…..pure as the driven snow he’s not!! There must be something in the water in Hope, Arkansas.

I consider myself a good (not perfect) Christian. I also believe the man upstairs gave me a brain and expects me to use it. That includes not being fooled by a huckster.

poodlemom on March 20, 2008 at 1:35 AM

I had a pretty bad impression in my mind about Falwell for many years. But the conclusion I came to is it was all the impression put forth by the God-hating liberal media. While never having met Falwell personally, I do know he was solid theologically. And he took a lot of heat for saying God sent judgment on us for one thing or another. I dont know the mind of God, but in His sovereignty He certainly could have. This country certainly has a divine judgment coming, if for nothing else for sacrificing 40-50 million of our own citizens on the alter of “choice.”

abcurtis on March 20, 2008 at 8:24 AM

That goes double in the wake of the Hagee uproar

Must have missed that…

Tom_Shipley on March 19, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Hagee has been accused of antisemitism because he said the suffering of the Jews is because of their rebellion against God. He also blamed Hurricane Katrina on the USA’s sinful state of affairs.
To me, niether of these statements compare, and I would tend to agree with them, but Hageee is too whacked out on other things for me to endorse or defend him in any way.

Sensei Ern on March 20, 2008 at 8:34 AM