Obama camp: No, Newsmax, he wasn’t there for the sermon on July 22; Update: Newsmax stands by its story, sort of
posted at 9:28 am on March 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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An (almost) airtight alibi, refuting the charge that he was present in church and nodding along last summer when Wright indicted the “United States of White America.” So much for Newsmax’s credibility. People were ripping on me in the comments to the Juan Williams post for having called the Messiah a shrewd politician but just look at the game he’s got us playing here — trying to place him physically at the scene of any single sermon at a church he patronized for 20 years, as if absent that evidence we might have to believe his feigned ignorance. Newsmax’s info was bogus? Well, maybe he really didn’t know after all!
Actually, I like this explanation better. Wait for it. About halfway through.
Update: Rasmussen measures the radiation.
Update: Via Ace, here’s Newsmax’s defense. They swear it’s all true, they’re just, er, not entirely sure anymore when it happened. Next.
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I stopped getting subscription updates from YouTube (which includes Red State Update). Must be a Republican Attack Machine conspiracy!
Neo on March 17, 2008 at 9:34 AM
The claim that he didn’t know what his preacher was talking about is one of the biggest lies I’ve heard this campaign season. Especially considering Fox has been talking about this guy for a while now- I think he at least knew a few months ago. More than likely 20 years ago. Hopefully someone finds a picture of him at one of these things.
eski502 on March 17, 2008 at 9:35 AM
OK…these guys are getting really good at this.
And I wasn’t “ripping on” you, just wanted to be the first one to predict your inevitable, stunning, election-swaying endorsement of The ObaMessiah. First.
Jaibones on March 17, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Ah. The definitive foul-mouthed-ecumenical-wackjob-in-the-pulpit analysis. Pay no attention to the empties in front of the curtain.
The lesson here is that the obamanator is a shrewed politician – he talks a lot but he doesn’t say much (or leave an evidence trail).
locomotivebreath1901 on March 17, 2008 at 9:41 AM
So? I think the extensive quote from his memoir about the first sermon he listened to, with its theme of white greed destroying the world is plenty damning. No need at all to play gotcha/don’t gotcha on any other specific day.
funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 9:42 AM
All those that believe Obama did not know what existed in the depths of Wright’s mind and heart after having him for a preacher and family confidant for about 20 years, please call me . . . I have a large number of bridges for sale.
rplat on March 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM
*Laughing right outloud.*
Hey, Allah. Good one.
I mean, yeah, why didn’t I see that before?
Now that I reflect though, I have to admit you were right. I am stunned by the sheer audacious brilliance of Obama’s ploy and that is a fact.
Yessir. No doubt that sly and clever and spectacularly shrewd politician was a member of that bomb-thrower’s church all these years just to make sure that come his entry onto the big-time national stage when he was asking all Americans to turn to him because he has such steallr and unsullied “judgment” we’d all keep ol’ Reverend Jerry in the news for weeks and weeks while we comb through ever more repulsive things he’s said in hopes of finding Obama’s worshipful mug out in the flock, head bobbing and arms waving and maybe even a “death the whitey” frothing from his lips.
I apologize for being so slow as not to catch it sooner. It’s just that I’ve never sat at the feet of a true master before.
Typhoon on March 17, 2008 at 9:44 AM
On a slightly more serious note, AP, I like your forest and trees metaphor. I think your self-imposed Obama Immersion Experiment might – might! – be distorting the view from inside the barrel.
Let’s review: 20 years. God Da– America! 9-11 is Chickens Roosting! CIA gave me AIDS! Farrakhan is a Great American! I hate Whitey! Like my new orange dashiki? Hey, Michelle!
You: Newsmax was wrong about one sermon, we’re screwed!
Me: Huh?
Jaibones on March 17, 2008 at 9:44 AM
How do you come up with that kind of sarcasm at 9:44am on a Monday? That’s mad-skillz you got.
Jaibones on March 17, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I will admit, that I have NEVER been to any of Martin Luther King’s sermons.
HOWEVER, I know who & what he was about. I’ll take him (and any other preacher) who actually preaches about the bible, not some social experiment USING the Bible.
HarryStar on March 17, 2008 at 9:46 AM
If Obama manages to eek out a win in November his term in office will breathe life into the Chinese proverb about living in interesting times. He seems like a nice guy but is another Jimmy Carter as far as I’m concerned. Well if the worst happens perhaps the GOP will remember why they were in control of Congress before and regroup to take it back in 2010.
JohnAGJ on March 17, 2008 at 9:46 AM
There has been a lot of handwringing and teeth gnashing over this Rev. Wright flap but not much discussion of what it means in actual political terms. The conventional wisdom after Ohio-Texas was Clinton wins Pennsylvania and Obama pretty much off sets that with North Carolina.
But now that Obamamania is hitting the skids I’m wondering if North Carolina is suddenly in play. Then if Clinton wins the Michigan re-do and gets Florida seated — which she will — the Dems’ own candidate will be selected not elected.
That’s my prediction.
miles on March 17, 2008 at 9:48 AM
I think people are looking to place him there to deliver a “gotcha” for the publicity (and traffic) that goes along with finding it. It’s no brilliant strategic move on Obama’s part. A brilliant move would have to never have put himself in that airtight coffin to begin with.
The average American who is not emotionally tied to Obama have already made up their minds on the credibility of his denial and they don’t need proof to affirm it.
TheBigOldDog on March 17, 2008 at 9:49 AM
I think it is very revealing that neither of this morning’s two major liberal, online propaganda machines (The New York Times & The Washington Post) had any headline reference to the Wright affair. Watch them try to make it go away.
rplat on March 17, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Nobody in the MSM will ask Obama these easy questions: Is it likely that Reverend Wright only gave these antiAmerican, antiIsrael sermons when the Obamas were NOT in church? Did Wright know in advance that the Obamas would be in church so that he (Wright) could tone down his sermons and only talk about scripture? Obama has zero credibility but the MSM will not ask him simple questions like these. Chris Matthews, the man who said he has a tingling sensation running up his legs when Obama speaks, certainly won’t ask Obama any questions. Neither will the Obamawannabes on Good Morning America or the Today show ask him any questions.
Larraby on March 17, 2008 at 9:50 AM
I wonder how many black Hot Air readers, like myself, have heard similar message sub-themes at their church? I know that I have.
There is a certain limit within which I can accept a preacher spweing this type of wrong-headed social statement. Rev. Wright definitely seems to have surpassed my personal threshold, especially with the “G.D. America” stuff. It is somewhat hard to gauge though, based on the fact that we’re getting snippets out of 20 years of sermons. (i.e. if these are the only examples, rather than being samples of a much large body of evidence, it wouldn’t necessarily be enough to make me leave)
One last thing. Except for the case of clergy, I generally find that men are lead to one church body or another by their wife. While Rev. Wright doesn’t seem to fit Obama’s demeanor, he fits perfectly with Michelle. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that she led the family to this particular church.
12thman on March 17, 2008 at 9:51 AM
Were this a brewing 1990s Clinton scandal, Newsmax’s screw-up would now be spun by the usual suspects as discrediting the entire scandal, and showing that this is all part of some Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Which, in fact, may be what some of the Obama supporters try here. The problem is, while it’s not in the Clintons’ interest to get directly involved in a scandal that is damaging Barak perfectly well all by itself, it’s also not in their interest to allow the Obama camp to turn this into a right-versus-left struggle, where Democrats are supposed to rally around the person under attack from conservatives.
I’m sure if the Clintons have anything new involving the Rev. Wright and whether or not Obama was there for the most controversial sermons, they’d probably prefer to sit on it for a couple of weeks, until the Pennsylvania primary is near. But if they see Barak and his people turning this into a VRWC incident and if it looks like the big media outlets are buying it, they may have to come to Newsmax’s rescue and prove that if he wasn’t specifically at the sermon in question, he was at others that should have raised red flags in his mind.
jon1979 on March 17, 2008 at 9:52 AM
It’s not just Newsmax. The “error” was repeated in the NYTimes by Kristol:
nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
Of course, it’s not an error at all.
dave742 on March 17, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Definitely true re: the gotcha. As for the latter part, Obama needed an “in” into politics and building his cred with the local black community was important to that. This isn’t a guy necessarily who always imagined running for national office. Suddenly the stars aligned and he was stuck with the consequences of a parochial decision he made. It was shrewd at the time, not so much now.
Allahpundit on March 17, 2008 at 9:53 AM
Great Alibi: I wasn’t sitting in that church that day listening that racist. I was busy trying to get support from another racist organization, La Raza (The Race).
Over30 on March 17, 2008 at 9:55 AM
http://newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_hat%20e_America_sermon/2008/03/16/80870.html?s=al&promo_code=9990-1
Could Ron Kessler be wrong??? What is the world coming to???
Vntnrse on March 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM
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Did ‘ole Fred Thompson call these guys yet?
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subbottomfeeder on March 17, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Has Obama got members of the famous Clinton Rapid Response Team of the 90s working for him?
jgapinoy on March 17, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Yeah but I think the point me and The Big Dog are making is that the whole scenario is overall proof that a man crafty or shrewd or seasoned in the art of politics would not have allowed himself to be here and now in this box.
Personally I think the guy is done for. This is something from which there is no recovery.
Now there could have been. He could have stayed in the Senate, then run for governor of Illinois, built himself a team and a true base of support based on accomplishment, and then run for President, and he would have had that to fall back on. Or, he could have distanced himself from Wright right up front.
Of course he could also have held his hand over his heart, muzzled his wife, and worn a flag pin in his lapel.
He might think he’s above all those things; no doubt he does. But that’s proof right there that he is not a shrewd politician. A shrewd politician in the end understands that the business of politics is the business of connecting with people on as many levels as possible.
He thought he was above it. He thought he could run not for office but for god.
We don’t do that here. That he didn’t know that makes him not shrewd, but a fool.
Typhoon on March 17, 2008 at 10:03 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/id/123582
a capella on March 17, 2008 at 10:04 AM
One of the best videos I’ve watched in a while.
lol
Thanks Allahpundit~
bridgetown on March 17, 2008 at 10:06 AM
That I can agree with. And I also agree he may never have had his sights on the Presidency. But, at some point, he should have realized Wright was going to be a major problem and taken steps to defuse it. He should have buried the DVDs and went to the flock and appeal to their conspiratorial instincts by telling them the press will be out to get him and it would be best if they did not speak to them or provide them any information.
Why didn’t he do these simple things months ago? Because like so many of his supporters, he believes Wright said nothing wrong. Yeah, he knew Wright could “get a little rough” but nothing so bad that it could potentially knock him out of the race.
Then, once he woke up an realized the scope of the problem he provides an excuse no reasonable believes.
One shrewd move (joining the church) does not outweigh a lot of really dumb ones.
TheBigOldDog on March 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Umm
Some interesting things
William Amos on March 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM
“This isn’t a guy necessarily who always imagined running for national office.”
That quote throws any credit you have out the window. Another Obama apology from AP.
WoosterOh on March 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM
North Carolina may be very interesting. We’ve had the Duke non-rape case and now the blond co-ed carjacked and murdered by black thugs case. I would imagine that most North Carolinians won’t be amused by the Rev. Wright and his bright pupil.
funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM
This I agree with, but that means that he was very short sighted. What does that tell us about his judgment.
Oldnuke on March 17, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I am hesistant to jump into the Obama preacher fray. But isn’t one of those tapes from Sept 16, 2001? Is there anyone who is even remotely religous who was not at church that morning? And since there was essential no travel, wouldn’t just about everyone be in their hometown?
I’m one of those 50 percenters when it comes to making it to church on Sunday, (OK maybe 25%) but I was in the pew that morning. Very simple question to the Obama Family. How did you spend the first Sunday, after the greatest terrorist attack that has ever befallen the United States of America?
sweeper on March 17, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Did Obama attend all of those race-baiting sermons and was he aware of Rev. Wright’s flamethrowing rants?
Michelle Obama, “For the first time in my life I feel proud to be an American.”
He was there, family in tow, and there’s all the proof you need.
fogw on March 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM
You and Typhoon beat me by a few posts. You guys must type faster than I can :-)
Oldnuke on March 17, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Wuhhh? So the story is he missed his Black Supremacy gathering because he was at a Latino Supremacy meeting?
Teehee!
IreneFingIrene on March 17, 2008 at 10:25 AM
the reporter, Kessler, is standing by his story that he was in church with barry on that morning.
peacenprosperity on March 17, 2008 at 10:28 AM
I can pretty much guarantee you that Michelle is the one behind the church attending.
I can see her standing up, clapping and raising her hands while Wright spewed forth his filth.
I think Obama is too chicken to buck his wife about it.
Her interview in the New Yorker was very revealing.
ArmyAunt on March 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I remember this speech….thanks to Wm Amos for finding a link.
Obama Warns Of ‘Quiet Riot’ Among Blacks
Democratic Presidential Hopeful Says Hurricane Katrina Pulled Back Curtain On Poverty Of Gulf Coast
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Obama.Blacks.Quiet.2.337535.html
He’s been slinging this crapola the whole time, but never getting called on it.
funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM
It doesn’t matter since he was supposedly at a La Raza meeting. There’ll be video of that. I wonder what he said at that rally. I’m sure we will find out.
Oldnuke on March 17, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Newsmax = American Debka
ninjapirate on March 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM
GG, do you have a source saying that he’s standing by the story?
ninjapirate on March 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM
NO. Wright’s malicious words are appalling to me, and something I haven’t heard since listening to undercover recordings of an Imam at a radical mosque.
But if there are 20 years of recorded sermons out there, it seems like someone should come forth with a sample of a beautiful, inspirational, uplifting, Christ-adoring and humanity-loving sermon given by Wright.
That might be hard to do. The sermon we’re seeing is his “Christmas” message. Lord help them.
nyrofan on March 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM
I guess he doesn’t have Google:
redorbit.com/news/politics/1008342/clinton_obama_address_national_council_of_la_raza_convention/index.html
washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070723/NATION/107230063/1001
Here’s what he said:
barackobama.com/2007/07/22/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_21.php
All reporters have access to Lexis Nexis. It takes literally 30 seconds to find out where he was that day. If you think this was a mistake, you are naive.
dave742 on March 17, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Ok, that is definitely even more disturbing.
12thman on March 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM
If Obama belonged to the church for 20 years but never heard one of the Right Reverend Wright’s hate filled, racist sermons it means one of three things:
1. He never attended.
2. He slept through them.
3. He’s lying.
None of the three say much for the man.
TooTall on March 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Yet another lesson on why any NewsMax story should be questioned with nearly the same level of doubt reserved for the MSM, but after all that global warming BS NewsMax has published I would have thought everyone understood that by now….
Jose Chupacabra on March 17, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Here is the guy who wrote the original newsmax story.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/posts-by:philo1962/
It’s not looking good for the credibility. The only possible way it is right is if Obama atended the 7:30am service, got in a plane, and headed towards miami. Currently the website lists Wright as preaching at 6:00pm that day. There was a democratic debate in florida on the 23rd.
ninjapirate on March 17, 2008 at 11:03 AM
What does it matter if Obama was in church on July 22? It defies credulity to believe he was unaware of his pastor’s black liberation theology. But for the sake of argument, are we to believe the Newsmax reporter simply made up his story about Obama being in church that day, including the reference to white men in Obama’s Secret Service detail?
flyfisher on March 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM
That post should not be seen as a defense of Newsmax. I am just trying to figure this out.
flyfisher on March 17, 2008 at 11:07 AM
I can’t believe Kristol would quote that newsmax story for an editorial in the NYTimes.
ninjapirate on March 17, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Kessler updates his article in NewsMax:
Here: http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/
Sounds like someone better do some more checking. You can’t stand up a major exposé with waffling: “during the month of July” is too vague.
MrLynn on March 17, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Agreed. What idiot throws away his notes on a major political candidate a few months afterward? Yet Davis says his are in “some landfill.”
MrLynn on March 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM
You shouldn’t believe it. Why wouldn’t Kristol run a 30 second Lexis Nexis search before writing that? Why wouldn’t anyone within the New York Times do so? There is no “why wouldn’t they”, because they would. The point was to give this BS story national coverage. A standard way to get a BS story national coverage is to report it originally in a BS news organization, then have a “credible” news organization use it as a source. It’s done all the time. That way there is a scapegoat. By using this method, you can get a BS story national coverage, and only 1% will ever find out it was BS.
Ever hear the following Ahamdinejad quote?:
“We don’t shy away from declaring that Islam is ready to rule the world.”
It was used in the text of a bill sumbitted to Congress:
bulk.resource.org/gpo.gov/bills/110/h1062ih.txt.pdf
Know who the source is? Iran Focus, which is run by a single individual, Mohammed Jazayeri, who is the member of the MEK, a terrorist organization. Our Congress quotes terrorist organizations in the text of our bills. How would you feel if Cynthia McKinney quoted Hamas in a bill?
Originating quotes from BS sources is a standard technique.
dave742 on March 17, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Major candidates have a media gaggle following their every move, so if Obama was indeed in church on July 22nd, why would Newsmax be the only outlet for this story? I’ve known Newsmax is sloppy, but if Obama wasn’t in church, this is way beyond sloppy.
flyfisher on March 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Agreed on both points. But I suspect that the reporter’s expense account records and his access to Secret Service records could bring the pain to the False Messiah.
And if Obama and the nitwits that run his campaign think that they want to dig this hole deeper by making the reporter prove it, they could end his candidacy very quickly, indeed.
Jaibones on March 17, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Obama made the decision to stop wearing the America Flag pin after 9/11….was it after he attended the “White America deserves 9/11 rant by Wright?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299439,00.html
Things that make you go Hmmmm
ihasurnominashun on March 17, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Never. Trust. Newsmax.
The_Freeze on March 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Hear. Hear.
Guys, Look here, Please.
NewsMax Lied, and Krisol repeated it, without checking, (As Usual wasn’t that why he got canned from Time?) and here we are.
Geeez… if you’re going to slam the democrats, at least get your facts straight.
Then again, with Neo-Conservatives, the facts are optional, right? Just ask Bill Orally or George W. Bush.
*grin*
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Forget about NewsMax linking Obama to a particular church meeting date. Who needs that bunk?
Anyone who has been a part of religionism in America knows exactly what his church leader believes and does not believe. Only a functional moron would sit in a building and not have a clue that his church leader is a racist, satan worshipper, or whatever.
If anyone, an-y-one, believes that Obama did not have a clue about what Wright believed, you have koolaid dripping from your lips, you are sold out to PC, or you are an idiot.
Believe it. Obama is a racist.
saved on March 17, 2008 at 12:26 PM
If, as the Newsmax update says, Obama was under Secret Service protection in church that day, then this is easily verifiable. FOIA the Secret Service records for dates and locations in July 08 that Sen. Obama was receiving protection. Since it’s protection that has already occurred, I can’t see how it could be excluded from FOIA. It represents a public expenditure and there have got to be records. Easily verifiable. Where was the Secret Service protecting Obama that day?
Rational Thought on March 17, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Obama is toast!
I just heard a whole new bunch of audio clips from Wright….
All I can say is wow!
This is a story that won’t end!
moxie_neanderthal on March 17, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Obama is toast. This stuff ruins a campaign.
bnelson44 on March 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM
I trust Newsmax like I trust Keith Olbermann to give me an unbiased report on Bill O’Reilly.
Dash on March 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM
What Country Does Obama Have Allegiance To?
Assuming Obama is a member in good standing in his church, I have to believe he accepts the basic tenets of his church. He may disagree with the inflammatory rhetoric of the pastor but if he is committed to remain “true to our native land” which is Africa, he does not hold allegiance to the U. S. of A. This allegience, to another country, is what I believe our founding fathers hoped to avoid by stating that any person seeking the presidency should be native born and have an overwhelming allegiance to this nation.
Pat in NC on March 17, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I bet Barack is really surprised. All of his experience has been with the MSM and he probably didn’t even know that there was any other game in town. The press has always taken care of him and covered for himand he’s probably still waiting for them to straighten this all out. His liberal college professors let him know that a black man can do no wrong and he’s experienced little to the contrary until very recently. And he and his handlers have refused any contact with the nonworshipful. That was doing him no favor since now that he’s in the deep water he doesn’t know how to swim.
There is a massive library of audio tapes of Rev. Wright’s sermons out there and it is said that there is a whole lot more of what has already been heard. Somebody with a lot of time on their hands might start cross referencing the dates of the sermons and Obama’s schedule. Or thay might come up with proof that only a small per centage of what this guy ever said matches with what Obama calims to have heard. And while this all goes on the main ideas associated with Obama will be division and racial hatred.
snaggletoothie on March 17, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama’s attendance. Mr. Davis’ story was first published on Newsmax on August 9, 2007. Shortly before publication, Mr. Davis contacted the press office of Sen. Obama several times for comment about the Senator’s attendance and Rev. Wright’s comments during his sermon. The Senator’s office declined to comment.
TheBigOldDog on March 17, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Sorry, but my church will never be found to preach anything remotely close to this. Period. If it cannot be reconciled w/the words of Christ, it won’t fly. Pardon the double neg.
My pastor and none of the associate ministers will EVER be found preach such a demogogic, pessimistic, divisive message. And I’m in DC.
I’m not saying that one has to agree with everything their pastor says, but this stuff is beyond the pale. It takes an idiot to believe that he knew nothing about this. (And even snippets should put you on alert–much in the same way Michelle’s “first time I’m proud…” did) And as someone on the Chris Plante show asked this morning: if he was so close to this guy for 20 yrs and just recently got a whiff of this, why is such a naive and oblivious guy qualified to be President?
I do agree, this seems to be Michelle O’s type of crowd.
Dubn8tr on March 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Too bad Obama is now having to prove a negative presence for all Wright’s worst sermons. I suppose that does divert energy and focus from his message of unity and hope. So, he’s trying to prove he isn’t racist while McCain is meeting with foreign leaders. That works out to a negative PR balance, the way I see it.
a capella on March 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM
1) That was his doing
2) It really doesn’t matter, it won’t make this go away. Obama was a member of that church for 23 years and he must have known what was going on. And it doesn’t explain the award to Farrakhan, the trip to Libya to meet Khadafi, etc.
bnelson44 on March 17, 2008 at 12:41 PM
My thoughts exactly.
Dubn8tr on March 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Obama’s Pastor Speaks Out Posted by: skepticalbrotha | March 21, 2007
Connie on March 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM
“You having a good time…enjoying the wine? I made that from the water.”
“Oh…great. Let’s get outta here, honey.”
HAHAHAHA!
Sensei Ern on March 17, 2008 at 12:53 PM
It should be pretty easy to verify if he was there. There should be campaign expenditures showing flight times.
roux on March 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM
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OK, that scares me. After listening to these hate rants, 29% said they were MORE likely to support Him???? And only 18% said those views were beyond the pale?
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Wow. Just… Wow.
skoot65 on March 17, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Obama was in Chicago that morning, but the campaign says he didn’t go to church.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/17/obama-was-in-chicago-the-_n_91876.html
ninjapirate on March 17, 2008 at 1:14 PM
The one thing that popped out to me when reading the August story was that Secret Service was there, WHY? Did he have escort at that time? Heck, they said Edwards did not have escort while he was campaigning. I thought Obama got some once he became a true contender.
Maybe we have a little NYT Blair here.
WoosterOh on March 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Look dude, Here’s the friggin’ video, ya moron…
click here
That was shot in FL. the day he was SUPPOSED to be in Michigan. Now get yer head outta God Damned ass and quit believing the bullshit of NewsMax!
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Sorry about the outburst. But damn it, I’m tired of the stupidity.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Well, a quick Google check shows on May 3rd,2007 he got detail.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18474444/
WoosterOh on March 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Ooops! Make that Chicago in Church… Not Michigan. :-P
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 1:29 PM
I watched a little of Mrs. Obama’s speech at Villanova…
I tried to relate the teachings of Rev. Dr. Hon. Wright with her words…
She fell a little short at being honest.
She’s not quite ready for primetime.
benrand on March 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Did you read this?
a capella on March 17, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Does this “stupidity” warrant the hostility?
flyfisher on March 17, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Yes. it. Does. people that make lies up, ought to be rounded up and shot.
Period.
I cannot stand liars.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 2:55 PM
I understand hostility toward liars in general and Newsmax in particular, but not Hotair commenters. People here are trying to sort the wheat from the chaff, not making this stuff up.
flyfisher on March 17, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Okay, I read it and….
I rest my case.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Kristol apologized.
A Axe on March 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM
And 98% of NYT readers don’t know he apologized, and think that the story is true. Mission accomplished.
dave742 on March 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Off-topic: Just caught Hannity playing audio of Clinton quoting Chuck Wrangel about all this. Interesting thing that Hannity didn’t pick up on was that Clinton calls Wrangel (Chairman of the House Ways and Means) “the most important black official”….don’t we have a black Secretary of State?
pecan pie on March 17, 2008 at 4:10 PM
We’re sorry, This video is no longer available.
I can’t remember the last time I clicked on one that was.
Masscon on March 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Jeez, you mean like the Rev. J. Wright?
Buy Danish on March 17, 2008 at 4:57 PM
I don’t dance like that! Obama does, though!
SouthernGent on March 17, 2008 at 6:32 PM
What I find hilarious is that his alibi for the day he was accused of attending a racist, anti-American sermon was that he was giving a speach to a racist, anti-American organization.
peacenprosperity on March 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM
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