Kos on pro-Hillary writers’ “strike”: She’s tearin’ this party aparrrrt!

posted at 3:25 pm on March 17, 2008 by Allahpundit

And for this, we love her so:

[A] coup by super delegate would sunder the party in civil war.

Clinton knows this, it’s her only path to victory, and she doesn’t care. She is willing — nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

If the situations were reversed, and Obama was lagging in the delegates, popular vote, states won, money raised, and every other reasonable measure, then I’d feel the same way about Obama. (I pulled the plug early on Dean in 2004.) But that’s not the case.

It is Clinton, with no reasonable chance of victory, who is fomenting civil war in order to overturn the will of the Democratic electorate. As such, as far as I’m concerned, she doesn’t deserve “fairness” on this site. All sexist attacks will be dealt with — those will never be acceptable. But otherwise, Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.

To reiterate, she cannot win without overturning the will of the national Democratic electorate and fomenting civil war, and she doesn’t care.

I’m inclined to agree about her having no reasonable chance of victory but you guys obviously aren’t. Exit question one: With two and a half months to go until the last primary and the delegates split 52/48, why should she quit now with the Wright scandal detonating? Does this tool really mean to suggest that if Hillary crushes him in Pennsylvania and then surprises him in Indiana, North Carolina, and later primaries on the strength of voters disgusted with Wright’s racial politics that the party should nominate him anyway even though he’d be apparently fatally wounded? People-powered politics as a cyanide capsule, in other words? Exit question two: Why is it Hillary’s fault for trying to work within the moronic rules set by the DNC to allot 796 votes to free-agent, accountable-to-no-one superdelegates? If you want a purely democratic vote, rescind their privileges and let the matter be decided by pledged delegates. The party man’s upset at the stupidity of his party, not her, but naturally he’s not honest enough to put the blame where it belongs.


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go Hillary go…splitting the party that is :)

spacekicker on March 17, 2008 at 3:28 PM

One can only hope. Hillary’s vote for Iraq has the anti war nuts panties in a bind.

Either Nader is going to have a god thrid party year or Ron Paul will be begged to run as an independant because if Obaam falls out there is no “Anti War candidate”

Hillary will be Hubert Humphrey in 68 to Obama’s bobby Kennedy in the eyes of the anti war.

William Amos on March 17, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Clinton knows this, it’s her only path to victory, and she doesn’t care. She is willing — nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

What’s wrong, Markos? The tactics and policies that haunted conservatives through the 90′s have come back to nip you in the @ss?

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM

What’s really delicious about this is Kos just basically went on the record as making his site officially Pro-Obama: sink or swim.

What happens if Hillary pulls it out? Will they vote for her, or will they riot in the streets in Denver?

And do you think the Denver police department is watching this with a sense of alarm?

Vanceone on March 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Yeah, just like Joe Lieberman, right Kos? She’s trying to save your stupid ass from nominating this guy:

Wright in “Dreams of My Father” [Rich Lowry]
Before he ever thought he would have to deploy Clintonesque spin to try to get himself out of a campaign controversy, Barack Obama wrote (an achingly good) memoir. In the book, Obama makes it clear that Wright when he first got to know him was pretty much the same Wright we’re getting to know now (the one that Obama is at pains to say is on the verge of retirement). Wright was striking some of the same notes, saying racially venomous things and attacking the bombing of Hiroshima. Note this passage about the first sermon Obama heard from Wright, the source ultimately of the title of Obama’s second book and one of the central themes of his presidential campaign:
The title of Reverend Wright’s sermon that morning was “The Audacity of Hope.” He began with a passage from the Book of Samuel—the story of Hannah, who, barren and taunted by her rivals, had wept and shaken in prayer before her God. The story reminded him, he said, of a sermon a fellow pastor had preached at a conference some years before, in which the pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting title Hope.

“The painting depicts a harpist,” Reverend Wright explained, “a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountain. Until you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation.

“It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks’ greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere…That’s the world! On which hope sits!”

And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpsville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. As the sermon unfolded, though, the stories of strife became more prosaic, the pain more immediate. The reverend spoke of the hardship that the congregation would face tomorrow, the pain of those far from the mountaintop, worrying about paying the light bill…

03/14 05:33 PM

funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Hey, where’s Ned Lamont these days anyway?

funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Forget ripping the democrat party apart!

Obama is going to rip America apart!

Chakra Hammer on March 17, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Obama and all the racist BS and overtones will do nothing but divide the country!

Chakra Hammer on March 17, 2008 at 3:33 PM

The rules are the rules. The DEMS gave the extra power to the super delegates, because they have superior judgement as compared to ordinary run of the mill DEMS. Why else would Spitzer be a super delegate…

tommylotto on March 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM

It gets even better – from the Weekly Standard:

And we still don’t know the identities of 76 of the super-delegates. How is that possible? Under DNC rules, 76 super-delegates–more than the combined elected delegates from Iowa and New Hampshire–are designated as “add-ons,” to help the Democratic delegation meet inclusion goals for “African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans, Asian/Pacific Americans and women,” as well as “members of the LGBT [Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender] community and people with disabilities.”

So, do we have transgender Hillary delegates or transgender Obama delegates? And who gets to decide?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/848armzh.asp?pg=2

Realist on March 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM

And do you think the Denver police department is watching this with a sense of alarm?

Not exactly alarm in that every convention is marred by lefty violence. It’s pretty disgusting that leftards think they have the right to riot and destroy property any and every time they don’t get their way and even when they do. I would like to seize their property and destroy it and see how they like it.

Blake on March 17, 2008 at 3:35 PM

link for that Rich Lowry Corner post:
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzUyZDAyMzBjMTAxMmI5NTI2OWU2NmE3OWY5YjYxMjQ=

funky chicken on March 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Why quit! Is it not reasonable that she sticks around in the event that Obama, being totally inept, just might step in a big pile of elephant crap and self-destruct?

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Clinton knows this, it’s her only path to victory, and she doesn’t care. She is willing — nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

Holy crap thats too funny. Why do they all talk like this? Complete with the italics and all. They have to be kidding dont they? Jesus. They’re all such Olbermannesque drama whores. ZOMG MAD PURSUIT OF POWAH!! Ugh.

What a bunch of dicks.

Dash on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

It kinda reminds me of my feelings when Hamas and Fatah killed each other. Much luck to both sides.

Aristotle on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

I guess the chickens are coming home to roost.

Lance Murdock on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

This party is tearin’ apart like a piece of Dollar Store toilet paper.

YEAH, BABY

Bicyea on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

P.S. Can Obama win outright without the Supers?

Dash on March 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Howard Dean’s complete incompetence pays dividends once again.

Why does it seem that the most effective Republicans, are usually Democrats?

Our guy’s best efforts can’t see to eclipse the products of the Democrat’s complete inability to get out of their own way.

NoDonkey on March 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Realist on March 17, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Identity politics on steroids.

Dash on March 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM

I don’t think so. It’s very close, and I’ve heard many analysts saying that it’ll come down to the S.D.s.

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM

only the democrats, who could have taken the 2008 election in a cakewalk, could turn this cycle into a cluster-f*** of their own making.

lorien1973 on March 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Isn’t she playing by the rules that Dean says he is trying to uphold? She didn’t write the superdelegate rules..When is that going to be touched on by Kos?

Pam on March 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 3:41 PM

That’s the case as far as I know too. I, for one, will be happy to see (to either candidate) “selected not elected” tee hee hee!

lorien1973 on March 17, 2008 at 3:42 PM

What’s wrong, Markos? The tactics and policies that haunted conservatives through the 90’s have come back to nip you in the @ss?

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Don’t you mean; “Rip you UP the @ss” ?

wearyman on March 17, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Kos was supposed to make the DLC radioactive, but he called off his assault because of Katrina. If Kos had destroyed the DLC like he promised, then the party would not be in schism today. Kos is the one truly responsible for fomenting this civil war.

rw on March 17, 2008 at 3:45 PM

As much as I hate to admit it, ya’ll are right. between Hillary Stupidity and Obama’s Preacher’s nonsense, the Dems are going to have a uphill battle come the General Election.

*sigh*

WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Why is it Hillary’s fault for trying to work within the moronic rules set

Basically, they feel that she’d use the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law. Kind of the opposite of the result they wanted in Florida 8 years ago.

Either way, I’m all for all the damage they can do to each other before McCain steps up to the plate. I swear, six months ago I swore there was no way in Hades that the Dems would NOT win the White House, just like ’76. But here we are, and McCain actually has a fighting chance!

JamesLee on March 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM

I agree, if Hillary wants to play ball the way the DNC planned then game on. I’m hoping that between now and April 15th Obama implodes, and then that is followed by Hillary’s tax forms going public. I imagine Bill has some provocative expenses…Spitzerian even. It would be very interesting if both Dem candidates destroyed each other on the way to the top.

blankminde on March 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM

Mark my word.. The glacier will get the last laugh.

ulyses on March 17, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Just as the Democrats promote the interests of their party over the national interest, Hillary promotes herself over partisan interest. They don’t care about conserving anything. They want to win, even if it means being the last person standing on a pile of smoking rubble.

For Hillary and the Hillarians, it’s all about Hillary. If Hillary must destroy the Democrat Party to win, so be it. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. This is of a piece with the Clintons’ history. They have left many a ruined friend in their wake. They will scorch the earth to get what they want.

And that’s perfectly fine with me. I like seeing the Democrats cannibalizing each other. I’m hoping the Democrat convention in Denver is the nastiest convention of all time, a Colorado death match with hammers, blow torches, and chain saws. I’ll be popping popcorn.

Tantor on March 17, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Clinton knows this, it’s her only path to victory, and she doesn’t care. She is willing — nay, eager to split the party apart in her mad pursuit of power.

If he had been listening to conservative talk radio for the last couple of years he would have already known this. But it is more fun hearing it out of the mouths of liberals.

Just A Grunt on March 17, 2008 at 3:54 PM

But otherwise, Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.

Dealt with? “Nay”?

The KOS kids have become some sort of freaky, pseudo-intellectual (that sentence didn’t need a ‘nay’), Twilight-Zone-y version of those “NO GIRLS ALLOWED” clubs (except that sort of sexism isn’t allowed, so “No divisive figures allowed” will have to do).

emailnuevo on March 17, 2008 at 3:54 PM

When I was quite a bit younger I had the opportunity to watch Andre the Giant destroy someone (may have been one of the Harts) in Milan. It was an awesome scene of unbelieveable (I know, fake) carnage. Andre could pick up men and toss them around like rag dolls. It was unbelieveably cool.

This is better.

29Victor on March 17, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Hahahahahaha. The man who vowed to KILL the DLC and get Joe Lieberman out of the Senate now sputters at Hillary Clinton for trying to destroy the party??

Pot, meet kettle.

rockmom on March 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM

“She’s tearin’ this party aparrrrt!”

Uh, ok.

Now….. How about them jayhawks!!

Ok, ok. Exit answer one: Obama’s mud will wash off and he’ll regain his halo – ’cause dems are stupid that way. Hillary won’t quit, but the fallout from these stranglehold politics will probably split their party – ’cause dems are stupid that way.

Exit answer two: It’s not billary’s fault, but the mob, they are a’changing – and you can’t spell democratic politics without fraud & duplicity.

Now…. what’s up with them Tigers? Geeeez.

locomotivebreath1901 on March 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM

why should she quit now with the Wright scandal detonating?
posted at 3:25 pm on March 17, 2008 by Allahpundit

This isn’t just a “Wright scandal”, it’s an “Obama scandal”.
This isn’t just about what Wright has said, it’s about what Obama has said.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again here is Obama’s thought process in a nutshell…and I quote Obama from a speech he gave and which is on his own web site:

But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.

Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.
A Politics of Conscience
Hartford, CT | June 23, 2007

So Obama’s journey is part of Rev. Wright’s journey. Rev. Wright is pastor of Obama’s UCC church. See the connection Obama was making?

The Boston Tea Party was no party – it was a riot and a rebellion. Isn’t Obama saying he wants to inspire riots and rebellion in this country to accomplish Wright’s vision?

I think it’s clear he is.

Wright calls the USA “imperialistic”. Obama wants to bring the “imperialistic” American “Empire to its knees”.

If he’s not talking about the USA, to which “Empire” is he referring?

The more people realize what Obama truly stands for, the less support he will have. Most of his current supporters don’t really want to elect a Black Panther or Malcom X as our President.

I propose we start calling him “Obama X”.

Or maybe just “ObamaX”.

Both Wright and ObamaX are on record quoting Malcom X. (“Chickens coming home to roost…”)

Red Pill on March 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Why is it Hillary’s fault for trying to work within the moronic rules set by the DNC to allot 796 votes to free-agent, accountable-to-no-one superdelegates?

Obama’s a psycho and a racist. Hillary’s a power-mad radical feminist socialist. Neither one seems stronger than the other at this point. What’s with trying to defend her?

JiangxiDad on March 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM

It was bond to happen, identity politics and all out Democrat party warfare. Hillary is not going to go away, so we can look forward to this warfare until the convention — At which time there will be a whole lot of losers who won’t vote … How cool is that?

tarpon on March 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM

And don’t forget the Rezko trial — which, oddly enough, doesn’t seem to be on the MSM’s radar. The Obamassiah is not going to get to Denver with that new car scent.

rbj on March 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Wasn’t the last time they declared a Fatwa on Lieberman? That turned out real good for them.

Iblis on March 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Is it rude for me to be sitting in my office chortling with glee?????

HawaiiLwyr on March 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM

*pop* *pop* *pop* *pop*

Ummm Yum!

*munch* *munch* *munch*

Would anyone else like some fresh popcorn? The Democratic Trainwreck, Live and in Color has just started. ;)

evilned on March 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM

It’s amazing. This is actually a microcosm of left-wing politics in general. The left would give fantastic amounts of power to their own people (while making sure that the right doesn’t get that power, because that would be ‘fascism’) and then they’re shocked, shocked that someone on their side, someone that isn’t a neocon baby-eating rethuglican would betray them. In this smaller microcosm, they appoint elite superdelegates, and give them a huge chunk of the vote, then they’re shocked that the process is somehow not democractic. The only choice, of course, is to blame the delegates for being human, instead of blaming the rules for not having the proper checks or balances.

apollyonbob on March 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Kos introduces the blurb with these words:

Al Giordano, on the laughable Clinton-supporters “strike” of this blog:

The people writing diaries on Kos’s site are the people that have been free labor making him money and earning him the spotlight for the past 4 years. They are the people that attended his Yearly Kos and the people for whom the candidates showed up to his utterly ignorable 1,000 person conference. These are people that have contributed $ to his fund raising pleas for candidates that have lost time after time.
He calls it laughable that they won’t be writing there any more.

MayBee on March 17, 2008 at 4:07 PM

You know, regardless of what happens in November I’m relishing the upcoming fight in the Dem convention. Given their behavior over the past few years, it couldn’t happen to a more worthy bunch. Ok Democrats, what’s it gonna be: you guys going to racist or misogynist? :-)

JohnAGJ on March 17, 2008 at 4:09 PM

One more thing: I never thought I’d find myself giddy about the shenanigans of the Clintons. I find it amazing to say it but go Hilllary go!

JohnAGJ on March 17, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Dennis Miller has a great line about Markos Moulitsos. He said he looks like Sal Mineo before they added water. Or something like that.

Sean68 on March 17, 2008 at 4:11 PM

As such, as far as I’m concerned, she doesn’t deserve “fairness” on this site. All sexist attacks will be dealt with — those will never be acceptable. But otherwise, Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.

Could have been lifted from Lord of the Flies.

petefrt on March 17, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Exit question one: With two and a half months to go until the last primary and the delegates split 52/48, why should she quit now with the Wright scandal detonating? Does this tool really mean to suggest that if Hillary crushes him in Pennsylvania and then surprises him in Indiana, North Carolina, and later primaries on the strength of voters disgusted with Wright’s racial politics that the party should nominate him anyway even though he’d be apparently fatally wounded? People-powered politics as a cyanide capsule, in other words?

Of course, she shouldn’t quit. We conservatives and non-extremist democrats need her to keep the mainstream news media at least somewhat “honest” with the hope that the liberal Messiah’s glow will dim enough for them to actually do their craft (journalism) properly. (I know, I know. It is a pipe-dream, but did many of us foresee the Obamaniac phenomenon a year ago?)

Exit question two: Why is it Hillary’s fault for trying to work within the moronic rules set by the DNC to allot 796 votes to free-agent, accountable-to-no-one superdelegates? If you want a purely democratic vote, rescind their privileges and let the matter be decided by pledged delegates. The party man’s upset at the stupidity of his party, not her, but naturally he’s not honest enough to put the blame where it belongs.

After the McGovern debacle, the party needed a way to protect itself from having a candidate who could not actually win the general election. They created the superdelegates to protect the party leadership from the “stupid” voters. Today’s democrat (ahem) party! ‘Nuf said.

Wildcatter1980 on March 17, 2008 at 4:18 PM

It’s a crap argument. It assumes, as you rightly point out that the superdelegates are only there to vote in the same way as the regular delegates. If so, then why have them?

The other point, and Hillary is right to point this out, is that Obama won many delegates in states in which there is no earthly way the result will be repeated in the general. Obama is not going to win many, if any, of the red states come November.

All that said, it’s nice to watch them eat there own as they got to watch us do the same early on during our primaries.

Defense Guy on March 17, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Look, don’t count your chickens b4 **. Why?? All Hillary has to do is find another black viable VP and the Dimos are right back in there. Simple as that.

Legions on March 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM

People-powered politics as a cyanide capsule, in other words?

Wouldn’t be the first time… Remember Ned Lamont?

gridlock2 on March 17, 2008 at 4:22 PM

I thought the Dem convention was shaping up to be a repeat of 1972 (nominate a far-leftie and lose in a landslide) but now it appears like it could be a repeat of 1968 (riots, arrests, etc.). Shall we start a pool? I’ll put $20 on 1972.

Kafir on March 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Legions on March 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I’m not so sure. If people feel Obama was supposed to get the top slot and Hillary took it, I don’t think the Messiah himself as VP would fix it.

People seem to be invested in Obama the, while minority, smooth talker and platitude server.

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM

“As such, as far as I’m concerned, she doesn’t deserve “fairness” on this site. All sexist attacks will be dealt with — those will never be acceptable.
Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.” – Kos

All this authoritarian talk of “dealing with” this and “dealing with” that because it’s “divisive”. Never threaten the collective, or you will be dealt with! The parlance reminds me of someone…pardon the Godwin’s.

“…Consequently, they will be dealt with immediately and with maximum severity. As a matter of principle, they will be shot at once, whether captured during operations or otherwise showing resistance.”

forest on March 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Kos is just mad because people aren’t as upset as him.

Kos,
Get a clue buddy: We live in a country with political moderates who don’t rail all day about the “evils of Bush.” If you want people powered politics than realize that people are a whole lot more calmer than you.

terryannonline on March 17, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Nay…..nobody uses nay anymore

there’s no naying in baseball

a Colorado death match with hammers, blow torches, and chain saws.

thats more like it

windansea on March 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Ah, this could beautiful, Go, Hillary, Go!

doubleplusundead on March 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM

What’s really delicious about this is Kos just basically went on the record as making his site officially Pro-Obama: sink or swim.

What happens if Hillary pulls it out? Will they vote for her, or will they riot in the streets in Denver?

And do you think the Denver police department is watching this with a sense of alarm?

Vanceone on March 17, 2008 at 3:29 PM

They have also forgotten Hillary has a long arm and vindictive nature. Even if she wins the nomination but loses the general, the Clintons will still be the VIPs of the Democratic party machinery. Markos may find a horse head at the foot of his bed, or some other reason to hastily shut down the site, if he isn’t careful.

a capella on March 17, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Second look at hillary losing those “right wing friends”

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1440646120080317?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may cost Americans $1 trillion and add strain to the sagging U.S. economy as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war “we cannot win.”

lorien1973 on March 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM

To reiterate, she cannot win without overturning the will of the national Democratic electorate and fomenting civil war, and she doesn’t care.

Save Denver! Move the convention to Berkeley!

infidel on March 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM

This reminds me of Keith Obermann and some female talking head on MSNBC a few weeks back balefully staring into each other’s eyes, lamenting the efforts of the former first Lady to drag Barry down into a negative campaign. So morally superior it made me want to gag.

I guess the next time a team is down 3-0 in a best of 7 series, Keith and Markos ‘Screw Them’ M. will just assume the underdog should just quit instead of playing game 4.

But Ms.Clintion ain’t down 3-0…i’d say she’s down 3-2 with games 6 and 7 at home.

DrW on March 17, 2008 at 4:49 PM

I’m inclined to agree about her having no reasonable chance of victory but you guys obviously aren’t.

Oh ye of little faith AP.

You gotta believe man!

conservnut on March 17, 2008 at 4:50 PM

I propose we start calling him “Obama X”.

Or maybe just “ObamaX”.

Both Wright and ObamaX are on record quoting Malcom X. (”Chickens coming home to roost…”)

Red Pill on March 17, 2008 at 3:59 PM

You noticed that too?

Chakra Hammer on March 17, 2008 at 4:50 PM

I wonder what the koskiddies think of this. Hillary Clinton Defeatism On Iraq Gives A Great Joy To Largest Terrorist Forum

Connie on March 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM

amerpundit on March 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM

The Hillary Obama Hillary ticket is finished. All I’m trying to say is if Hillary happens to pull this off, all she needs to do is choose another viable black VP runningmate to re-unite the Dimos. There are many many to choose from..and it will work.

Legions on March 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM

And we must also thank the disenfranchised Republicans/Independents in those states that voted for Obama because McCain already had the republican nomination or couldn’t vote republican as in California. How better to vote than to vote against Hillary. Strategic voting by republicans giving Obama the slight edge in delegates. I voted for Obama in CA (decline to state) and there is no way that I would ever vote for democrat in the General Election.

PrettyD_Vicious on March 17, 2008 at 5:13 PM

*pop* *pop* *pop* *pop*

Ummm Yum!

*munch* *munch* *munch*

Would anyone else like some fresh popcorn? The Democratic Trainwreck, Live and in Color has just started. ;)

evilned on March 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Pass me the bucket! Got Sprite?

Here: Snickers? Hershey bars? ;-)

newton on March 17, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Does this tool really mean to suggest that if Hillary crushes him in Pennsylvania and then surprises him in Indiana, North Carolina, and later primaries on the strength of voters disgusted with Wright’s racial politics that the party should nominate him anyway even though he’d be apparently fatally wounded? … Why is it Hillary’s fault for trying to work within the moronic rules set by the DNC to allot 796 votes to free-agent, accountable-to-no-one superdelegates?

Let’s not forget, this is Democrats we’re talking about. They’re practiced in using “the will of the People” to mean “my favorite.”

I actually wrote about this a week ago. They’re going to be riding the “D” word (“disenfranchisement”) right into Denver and ripping the town apart if Kewpie Doll Barack doesn’t receive the nomination like a bouquet of roses to the Prom Queen. Hoist on their own petards, sez I. Serves ‘em right, sez I.

philwynk on March 17, 2008 at 5:22 PM

Every day that Clinton stays in is one more day that Obama’s troubles, Rezko and Wright, continue. Seems that these wouldn’t be his only problems. If Clinton has anymore surprises that could be the end. The Kos Kids live in a dream world if they think this guy is some messiah, this guy is Bill Clinton lite.

Mike Mose on March 17, 2008 at 5:25 PM

This whole thing is just beautiful. They are going to tear each other apart over the next few months. Neither will quit and both will claim victory.

Ah the joy!

ThackerAgency on March 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Look, don’t count your chickens b4 **. Why?? All Hillary has to do is find another black viable VP and the Dimos are right back in there. Simple as that.

Not hardly. Never doubt the destructive power of rising expectations. The French Revolution did not occur when the French peasants were at their most hopeless, but when they were expecting things to improve, and they were not improving fast enough to meet their expectations.

The blacks in the Democratic party are finally seeing themselves as empowered. If Madame Clinton manages, by back room finagling, to snatch the nomination from their favorite, they’ll be out of that convention hall faster than you can say “US of KKK A”. The majority of black voters will write in Obama, and John McCain will win the Presidency without breaking a sweat.

If Clinton is perceived as having stolen the nomination from Obama, her nominating a different black for VP will be seen as the sop that it is, and will be slapped away dramatically.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, “Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture,” at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Thanks.)

philwynk on March 17, 2008 at 5:34 PM

P.S. Can Obama win outright without the Supers?

Dash on March 17, 2008 at 3:39 PM

No he can’t but that doesn’t stop the morons from crying “she’s stealing it from Obama”
Waaaahhhhh!

ArmyAunt on March 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM

The Dems can be counted on to count their chickens before they roost.

Sekhmet on March 17, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I guess the chickens are coming home to roost.

Lance Murdock on March 17, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Nailed it.

One reaps what the sew. And ain’t it just delicious if you aren’t a democrat? See what happens with “more government”.

Hog Wild on March 17, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Democratic party rules do not give the nomination to the candidate with the most votes. They have a superdelegate system so that Reid, Pelosi, etc. do not have to be stuck with the will of the people. It’s hard to believe Markos doesn’t know the rules. Maybe he thinks he can bully the whole party. Might he have issues with women? The little fellow is a bit of a mystery.

snaggletoothie on March 17, 2008 at 6:42 PM

Clinton has set an inevitably divisive course and must be dealt with appropriately.

Why do I think “Lubyanka” when I read that?

Man that Kos is scary some times.

rick moran on March 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Anytime I see Kos throw a full blown hissy fit and blames it on another left-wing liberal………it is a good day in America.

pilamaye on March 17, 2008 at 6:59 PM

How did a adolescent orangutan in a suit and tie, get onto “Meet the Press”?

Must have been a slow news day.

NoDonkey on March 17, 2008 at 9:20 PM

NoDonkey on March 17, 2008 at 9:20 PM

It’s an interesting commentary on our society that you can say that about a “white” guy and people think it’s funny. If you dared say that about a “black” guy, you’d be reviled as a racist.

I’m not suggesting we call anyone an “adolescent orangutan in a suit and tie”, I’m just pointing out how the same mocking expression is permissible when used against one segment of Americans, and reprehensible when used against another segment of Americans.

soapbox:
I personally don’t agree with the whole concept of “race”. Most discussions and government forms want us to “pick a box” for our “race”. What if you a person with parents and grandparents from different “races”? Which “box” are you supposed to check? The whole concept of “race” is used to divide people, not unite people. I personally believe that we are all one race.

Red Pill on March 18, 2008 at 5:49 AM

When Kos grows up he will be eligible to play Dr. Zaius in the third remake of the Planet of the Apes.

However with a new plot twist – Dr. Zaius will be gay. Cause Kos surely is.

NoDonkey on March 18, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Sekhmet on March 17, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Yes, and if they had 28 chickens before and they were expecting 32 chickens to come home, and only 30 actually do, they can be counted on to cry about the loss of two chickens.

Kafir on March 18, 2008 at 10:41 AM