No, Danny Boy!

posted at 7:30 pm on March 16, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

Tomorrow is St. Patrick’s Day, where the Irish in America march up 5th Avenue and stagger down 6th Avenue, and millions of Irish and non-Irish in the US will crowd into Irish-style pubs and sing “Danny Boy”. Or at least most of them will — with the exception of those at Foley’s in Manhattan, where the manager has banned the song. That might come as a relief to the actual Irish:

After 18 years behind a bar, Manhattan pub manager Shaun Clancy had decided he’d had enough of “Danny Boy,” the maudlin Irish evergreen that has haunted the hearts and ears of Irish bar owners for nearly a century. What’s more, the lyrics are constantly butchered by boozy patrons, he insisted.

Clancy banned the song from his tavern for the month of March.

Since banning “Danny Boy,” Clancy has been profiled in 70 newspapers around the world, from The China Post to the Derry Journal, as well as The Associated Press and dozens of television and radio stations.

He’s done 60 interviews for news outlets in six countries. And he’s taken more than one crank phone call from angry or simply bored citizens who laughingly — or bitterly — burst into the song as soon as he picks up the phone.

Widely decried among well-traveled publicans, the song has become to many the “Sweet Caroline” of Irish ballads — a once epic weeper that’s been bastardized by overuse into a gin-soaked, sing-along parody of itself.

“Danny Boy” is a beautiful, haunting song … the first thousand times you hear it. After that, it gets pretty tiresome, and even more so to those in the Old Country who tire of supplying renditions of it for American tourists. Irish music consists of much more than “the pipes, the pipes are calling” and “I’ll take you home again, Kathleen” — which owe more to America than Ireland. It started as an instrumental known as “Londonderry Air”, which became popular among Irish immigrants in this country. An American woman took it down and sent to to her brother-in-law in England, who added the lyrics. (Fred Weatherly would also later write “The Roses of Picardy”.)

The Irish tolerate Danny Boy and the other “Irish songs” of America, but only just. When my uncle visited Ireland almost 30 years ago, he asked one publican where he could hear authentic Irish music. The Irishman asked, “Oh, you mean like Danny Boy and I’ll Take You Home Again, Kathleen?” “Yes,” my uncle said. “Nearest place I know is Boston,” came the reply.

We visited Killarney in 2001 and caught a show at a pub popular with the tours. We had a great time with the show, but they made it clear what they thought of Danny Boy. The emcee kept promising a special rendition of it for most of the 90-minute show, and finally the moment arrived. Another singer took the stage and belched his way through it, which may have also been a statement about how the Irish think they’re perceived by Americans. It was hilarious; the audience laughed so hard we were in tears at the end, and not because the pipes were calling anyone.

If you want to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with some authentic Irish music, try listening to The Chieftains, the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, Lunasa, The Corrs, or even U2.  They may even have their own versions of Danny Boy — but it’s not the same without the belching.

Update: I failed to mention the Pogues, The Dubliners (how could I forget them?), and many others.  I didn’t mean it as an exclusive list, and there are many other wonderful Irish bands and singers.  Try Solas, or if you love the Irish language, Aoife Ní Fhearraigh can’t be missed.

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Bing Crosby did a beautiful rendition of Danny Boy that is so sad and beautiful. That’s how I think of the song.

Then there is that White Christmas thing.

CrimsonFisted on March 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM

St Patrick’s Day is about Irish ethnicity like St Valentine’s Day is about love.

All St Patrick’s Day is in America is an excuse for a bunch of people who have no idea who is St Patrick, why he is a Saint and why there is a holiday for him, to go out and get wasted (as if people even needed a special day set aside for that).

Michael in MI on March 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM

“Londonderry Air”

The UK’s most attractive asset.

jaime on March 16, 2008 at 7:53 PM

what about the pogues? I just saw them at the riv in chicago. It was like 2 hours of listening to the Old Spice jiggle.

liberrocky on March 16, 2008 at 7:54 PM

This one’s Better! No Nay Never!

I don’t look at the rainbow and think, “somewhere, over the rainbow!” I instead think…

Mazztek on March 16, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Michael in MI on March 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM

I object! I’m Irish, know a bit about St. Patrick, and don’t drink. I plan to celebrate by trying to get my 6 year old son to watch a few minutes of The Quiet Man.

(I don’t really object.)

mikeyboss on March 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Danny Boy….

……… something to get you in the mood, erin go brah!

Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 7:56 PM

Ed, yer killin’ me!

Ya forgot The Pogues and The Dubliners!

(Also, if you can tolerate the occasional marxist drivel, Black 47.)

That’s Irish music done right, boyo!

SuperCool on March 16, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Irish music is near the top of my favs in pop music. There’s really good Irish pop on internet radio, by the way.

The Irish tolerate Danny Boy and the other “Irish songs” of America, but only just.

Me too. But it’s an icon of sorts, and I don’t like to see anyone become intolerant of it, regardless of how over-used and abused it may have become.

petefrt on March 16, 2008 at 7:59 PM

No more jokes on this link…… God Rest in Peace.

Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 8:01 PM

Never heard the song before.

lorien1973 on March 16, 2008 at 8:01 PM

I can’t get Chumbawumba out of my head…

SouthernGent on March 16, 2008 at 8:02 PM

The Irish have as much use for Danny Boy as they do for corned beef and cabbage. If I never hear that song again, I’ll shed no tears.

Another musical selection of note, albeit a bit too political at times, is Black 47.

JammieWearingFool on March 16, 2008 at 8:05 PM

It’s not Danny Boy, but hearing the song reminded me of all the funerals….. (sigh)

… then I saw this…….. when will we remember what actually happened to this country, those we lost, those who are fighting, what we have to loose?

………. when?

Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 8:08 PM

Yup, heard it too many times.
I’m ok w/ the ban of Danny Boy in March. They can add McNamera’s Band and that one about “green alligators and long neck geese” to the list as well.
btw- XM channel 76 is doing all Irish music Mar. 15-17.

Over30 on March 16, 2008 at 8:09 PM

Reminds me of an episode of M*A*S*H*: They clean up the North Korean doctor and pass him off as South Korean to help at the hospital. Burns & Hoolihan figure it out and he’s about to leave for the prision camp and talks to Hawkeye, BJ, and Radar about meeting after the war. Radar says, “I bet you know some good places for Chinese food.” The North Korean replies, “Yes, but they are all in Chicago.”

Tennessee Dave on March 16, 2008 at 8:12 PM

Why is there a war on Christmas and Easter, but everyone is fine with St. Patrick’s Day? Seems that the anti-Christians are inconsistent.

-FatOldGuy

Fogpig on March 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Another good band is the Irish Rovers.

So no Danny Boy on St.Patricks Day,well thats worth a few
fist fights,and it could be worse,just think of some clown
at a soccer match,drunk and taunting “Danny Boy”,and presto
Irish Soccer Hooigans!

So know more b!sterdization and besmirching of Danny Boy
song just great,oh and while I’m on a roll the Muslim
rights have to be somewhere in the mix,ya just know CAIR
is going to figure some angle out,oh and when does ACLU
go to court so some guy can have his right on St.Paddys
Day to besmirch the DB song.

canopfor on March 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM

“Danny Boy” is a great song, but it’s not appropriate for St. Patty’s Day. It doesn’t mix well with green beer and leprechauns.

RedWinged Blackbird on March 16, 2008 at 8:19 PM

If you want to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with some authentic Irish music, try listening to The Chieftains, the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, Lunasa, The Corrs, or even U2.

I never knew The Corrs were Irish. Always thought they were Scottish or something. Doesn’t much matter. Point is, they have some great music. Great voice those two sisters have.

Luthien on March 16, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Sorry, can’t help myself……. this…

Maybe we can make St. Patrick’s Day a 9/11 holiday…. since no other day is available….?

Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Why is there a war on Christmas and Easter, but everyone is fine with St. Patrick’s Day? Seems that the anti-Christians are inconsistent.

-FatOldGuy

Fogpig on March 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Cause we’re special.

May the road never rise to meet your face.

Limerick on March 16, 2008 at 8:21 PM

That should be Hooligans and not Hooigans,sorry!

canopfor on March 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM

I can’t get Chumbawumba out of my head…

SouthernGent on March 16, 2008 at 8:02 PM

Try “Come On, Eileen”….

No Danny Boy? Erin go Bah-humbug!

JetBoy on March 16, 2008 at 8:23 PM

I used to play Irish music in various pubs and bars and only refused two requests: “Danny Boy” and that drivel “The Unicorn”. ‘No, Nay, Never’s proper name is ‘The Wild Rover’. Come the 17th, I’ll down a few pints of stout (I prefer Mitchell’s to Guinness) and play my Tommy Makem disks.

GeneSmith on March 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Well, what do you ……… know.

Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Sing it once lads, for Barry O’Bama and his tumble off the Blarney Stone.

BL@KBIRD on March 16, 2008 at 8:30 PM

I’m partial to Capercaillie for celtic music, dunno if they are from Ireland though…

Tark on March 16, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Have you tried Denis Leary’s contribution to the holiday?

laelaps on March 16, 2008 at 8:42 PM

The Pogues…and Flogging Molly. Now there’s some Irish music you can drink to.

flipflop on March 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM

Spent some time in Ireland – both sides of the border and I’ve never heard Danny Boy sung in a pub. But, I’ve been to Moscow and heard “Back in the USSR”!

MCPO Airdale on March 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM

I’m of Irish descent and have no problem with it. His tavern his rules. Just go somewhere else if you don’t like it.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM

Celtic Women and they are easy on the eyes to boot.

Just A Grunt on March 16, 2008 at 8:45 PM

For crying out loud, Morrissey, you talk like you’re Irish or something…wait a tick…uh…never mind. ;-)

I’m Irish, too. I’m also German, Scottish, and English. Don’t ask me how all that happened.

The song wears on me too, so good for the bartender for banning it.

Tom Blogical on March 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM

Celtic Woman that is.

Just A Grunt on March 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM

If you want to hear Irish music mixed with electric guitar and a little edge, try the Dropkick Murphy’s.

nomorespin on March 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Top of the morning…., Oh never mind

Hummer53 on March 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM

May the road never rise to meet your face.

Limerick on March 16, 2008 at 8:21 PM

I always liked to say, “May the road rise to meet you, but not too fast.”

I also had an Irish track teammate in college, who would mix cliches. May favorite was, “When the going gets tough, the harder they fall.”

mikeyboss on March 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Sad to say, it will be a little bit more subdued a St. Patrick’s Day here in New Hampshire this year, as it will be the first time the holiday has arrived since the death of longtime NH resident Tommy Makem. He first came to live here in 1955 in Dover, and died there last August.

Del Dolemonte on March 16, 2008 at 9:00 PM

why are we even celebrating St. Patrick’s day? It’s the multi-culturalists run amuck. Every little culture has to be weighed equally and have a little holiday or “history month”. Why can’t we all just be color-blind/culture-blind?

crr6 on March 16, 2008 at 9:05 PM

I’m Irish and I’ve enough of Danny Boy too!

Good PR for the pub.

freebird on March 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM

Huh? I always just thought it was the day you planted potatoes.

davidk on March 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM

I gotta say, when I went to Ireland a few years ago I heard “Danny Boy” sung there. It moved me to tears. It’s all about the authenticity of the performance.

Mojave Mark on March 16, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Bah, St. Patrick’s day was an institution coast to coast in America before Multiculturalism existed. It’s survived and been adopted because it’s an attractive part of Irish culture, and a great excuse to drink. There’s all that music, and it’s a great excuse to drink. There are the little green leprecauns, and it’s a great excuse to drink…

are you following here?

Tark on March 16, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Heck, I’m the real-deal and I’ve never really celebrated Paddys day. A real Irishman doesn’t need an excuse for a skinful ;)

Besides, the whole green leprechauny commercialisation of the day is just..so…gay

LimeyGeek on March 16, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Why is there a war on Christmas and Easter, but everyone is fine with St. Patrick’s Day? Seems that the anti-Christians are inconsistent.

It’s the beer. And the zero mention of the words “Jesus” or “Christ”.

Hey, how about Riverdance? I’m not Irish, so I really don’t know much about the whole thing…

newton on March 16, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Hey, how about Riverdance?

I don’t have enough ammo to do that atrocity justice ;)

LimeyGeek on March 16, 2008 at 9:23 PM

If any of my fellow Hotairheads have HBO, I highly suggest watching the new miniseries “John Adams”. Absolutely fabulous and inspiring. It’s on now and will be replayed probably all week so you can catch episode I which ran from 8-9. Episode II is on now.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Thank you, Ed, for twice taking the time today to lecture us on how we should structure our thoughts — first re: homosexuality, and now re: Irish culture. Way to respect your audience’s capacity to think for ourselves.

Lee on March 16, 2008 at 9:34 PM

The late Frank Patterson also performed many Irish songs very well …

furytrader on March 16, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Altan is deadly Irish band.

Little Boomer on March 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM

..Or Clannad

Reaps on March 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM

God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn’t rule the world (the Scots didn’t get the memo).

There’s two kinds of people in the world, them that love whiskey and them that need to learn to love whiskey.

Tabhair dom an rud céanna atá ag an fhear ar an urlár! Give me the same as the man on the floor!

Speakup on March 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I hope no one has beat me to posting the definitive Danny Boy

meep on March 16, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Speaking of the Pogues, has anyone seen Shane McGowan lately? He’s like a shambling Dude post.

Still, “Rum, Sodomy and the Lash” is one of the greatest secular recordings of all time.

exlibris on March 16, 2008 at 9:51 PM

Speaking of the Pogues, has anyone seen Shane McGowan lately?

Surely he’s dead by now. That scunner was a mess.

LimeyGeek on March 16, 2008 at 9:52 PM

How about ‘go to Mass and say a prayer to the saint himself’. :D

Vatican Watcher on March 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Why is there a war on Christmas and Easter, but everyone is fine with St. Patrick’s Day? Seems that the anti-Christians are inconsistent.

-FatOldGuy

Fogpig on March 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM

Cause if you come out against St. Paddys day, you get a good old fashioned Irish a$$ woopin!

conservnut on March 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Gee, and all this time I thought the song title was “London Derriere”

oldleprechaun on March 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM

I’ll add Thin Lizzy to the list of Irish bands. Their version of “Whiskey in a Jar” is definitive, in my view.

Tom_Shipley on March 16, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Their version of “Whiskey in a Jar” is definitive, in my view.

Metallica did it better ;)

LimeyGeek on March 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM

How about Whiskey In The Jar? Preferably the Metallica version.

Bigfoot on March 16, 2008 at 10:21 PM

mikeyboss on March 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Three years ago my family and I visited Ireland with a few days in Cong, Ireland, the place where The Quiet Man was filmed. We have probably watched the movie 50 times and guess what, we are not even Irish. We love the Irish people and we can’t wait to get back there. Have a pint of your favorite soda on me!
For me, I will have a pint of Guiness just for my Irish friends.

d1carter on March 16, 2008 at 10:21 PM

I shouldn’t wait so long after previewing to post.

But it’s nice to see someone’s on my musical wavelength.

Bigfoot on March 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM

d1carter on March 16, 2008 at 10:21 PM

I’ll drink to that.

mikeyboss on March 16, 2008 at 10:26 PM

That might come as a relief to the actual Irish

Hahaha.

I’d recommend A Song For Ireland, God Save Ireland and The Town I Loved So Well. (Derry)

Also The Irish Rover, The Body Of An American and N17.

aengus on March 16, 2008 at 10:45 PM

A Song For Ireland

aengus on March 16, 2008 at 10:52 PM

with some authentic Irish music, try listening to The Chieftains, the Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem, Lunasa, The Corrs, or even U2

by Ed Morrissey

Ye left out Van Morrison from the list of Irish singers?

Shame on you Ed, shame on you!! Given that Van the Man “could” easily have belched out a version of Danny Boy as well as sing a beautifully haunting tune.

HarryStar on March 16, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Tomorrow is St. Patrick’s Day

Does McDonald’s still sell Shamrock Shakes?

Chakra Hammer on March 16, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Oh, whiskey, yer the divil!
Yer laidin’ me astray!
Over hills and mountains and to Ameri-cay.
Yar sweetness from the Bleachner
‘n spunkier than tea
Oh, whiskey yer me darlin’ drunk or sober!

Snappy and true. (But for sheer drama, I like “By the Risin’ of the Moon”.)

And come tell me Sean O’Farrell, tell me why you hurry so?
Husha buachaill hush and listen and his cheeks were all a glow.
I bear orders from the captain, get you ready quick and soon,
For the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon!

tree hugging sister on March 16, 2008 at 11:01 PM

…Or Clannad

Reaps on March 16, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I’ve always been partial to Harry’s Game, meself.

Rusty Bill on March 16, 2008 at 11:01 PM

Awww.. no Shamrock Shakes.. :(

Shamrock Shake

Chakra Hammer on March 16, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Clancy Brothers adn Tommy Makem are my favorite.

I still have their records (yes vinyl)from when I was a youngin’

Try singing Johnny McEldoo when you’re drunk….

reaganaut on March 16, 2008 at 11:33 PM

If one wishes to celebrate Patrick, one can do no better than by singing his ‘Breastplate’ (or, ‘Lorica’ which begins: ‘I bind unto myself this day’), and, having enjoyed a proper amount of Harp, to follow it up with a public reading of the Epistle to the Soldiers of Coroticus, and his Confession (“I did NOT suckle their nipples!”)

One does even better if one does it after 9.00 p.m. on the high street of Butte, Montana, which is and remains the most ethnically Irish place outside the Island– and possibly even more Irish than any of the cities in Ireland today!

It is a signal, and good thing.

Scribbler on March 16, 2008 at 11:38 PM

mikeyboss on March 16, 2008 at 7:55 PM

The quiet man is a great movie .

Mojack420 on March 16, 2008 at 11:45 PM

try the Dropkick Murphy’s.

Amen to that.

After growing up in a small town that was almost exclusively Italian, going to Ireland was a shock. Every single person looked like my family. It was kinda cool.

Bad Penny on March 16, 2008 at 11:56 PM

meep on March 16, 2008 at 9:45 PM

damn ya beat me, but that is the best version yet.

Don Carne on March 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM

St. Patrick’s Day is almost 6 hours old here in Germany, where I recommend for Irish music, the Orthodox Celts, Irish music from Serbia. Yeah, you read that right. Serbia. Looking forward to getting out and celebrating the man who took on the Devil and cast the snakes out of Ireland is somewhat true Irish style; at a bar hollowed out from part of a Seminary in Mainz, Germany, with a bartender from Sligo who will throw things at you if you start singing Danny Boy. Hope I make it to work tomorrow.

Spc Steve on March 17, 2008 at 12:45 AM

I’m part Irish (among several other things), but they can keep all of the music and all of the food, too.

I did keep the red hair (at least until it turned brown and then grey).

landlines on March 17, 2008 at 12:51 AM

As a Boston Irish College Student who attends school IN Boston, St. Patty’s Day is actually my day OFF from drinking.

Pat Meebles on March 17, 2008 at 1:18 AM

The Corrs by Cap’n Ed

I LOVE the Corrs. But Bono is overrated.

jimbo2008 on March 17, 2008 at 7:22 AM

Oh Blarney there always after me lucky charms!

canopfor on March 17, 2008 at 7:43 AM

Here in Fredericksburg VA, where Gen. Meagher’s Irish brigade from the Union side faced an Irish brigade (regiment, really) from the Confederacy side during the Civil War War of Northern Aggression, St. Paddy’s day is a bit of big deal.

Meagher’s lads fought hard…so hard that they were whittled from over 1600 men down to around 250. Supposedly, it was during this battle that Gen. Lee dubbed them the “Fighting 69th” (69th New York Infantry).

This ends today’s history lesson.

flipflop on March 17, 2008 at 7:48 AM

I love Irish music, as long as it’s My Bloody Valentine or maybe Ash. Or House of Pain in a pinch.

saint kansas on March 17, 2008 at 8:21 AM

U2, come on Ed. Who wants to listen to the self Sainted Bono tell the rest of us how we should live? Give me Thin Lizzy and Van Morrison, real Irish rock and roll!

deadbackpacker on March 17, 2008 at 8:48 AM

As for myself, On St. Patty’s Day, I slap Thin Lizzy’s “Jailbreak” onto the turntable. Captain, how could you forget Phil Lynott?

otcconan on March 17, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Ed, I think you are missing the entire point. We sing “Danny Boy” as a way of mocking the Irish.

Capitalist Infidel on March 17, 2008 at 8:51 AM

The definitive version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

Damian P. on March 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM

I see someone else mentioned Lizzy.

No, the Metallica version is not better. It sucks. Terribly.

But for a real, Irish-sounding Lizzy tune, how about “The Emerald” off the above-mentioned album? Serious celtic lines in that one. And it’s HEAVY

otcconan on March 17, 2008 at 9:02 AM

I wonder how many people really celebrated St. Patrick’s Day on Saturday.

OneGyT on March 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Metallica did it better ;)

LimeyGeek on March 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM

+1 (clean version).

Metallica does everything better. Just sayin’.

fourstringfuror on March 17, 2008 at 9:56 AM

Gawd, it’s like listening to “Saints” in New Orleans at Preservation Hall or somethin’…that’s a song you never wanna hear again!

There’s a sign in Preservation Hall, or there used to be over 20 years ago…went somethin’ like this.

Requests:
Standards – 50¢
Others – $1.00
Saints – $5.00

Of course, our local hangout happens to be an “Irish” pub. We go on Sundays for NFL games, but because we know the owners we’ve dropped by on Friday & Saturday nights over the past 12 years we’ve been regular NFL watchers there. Those nights are crowded with newbies to town & tourists, and they are constantly playing the Irish tunes. Ugh. And since it’s the same players with the same exact spiel, including song order, for decades, that gets one suicidal.

Miss_Anthrope on March 17, 2008 at 10:24 AM

As for myself, On St. Patty’s Day, I slap Thin Lizzy’s “Jailbreak” onto the turntable.

Been listening to it on my iPod!

Tom_Shipley on March 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM

My vote would be for “Wearing of the Green” to be the official St. Paddy’s Day song.

Spolitics on March 17, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Meep, Damian

That’s just awesome – I play that for my 1 year old all the time, he digs Beaker.

SkinnerVic on March 17, 2008 at 12:24 PM

I always liked this version of danny Boy.

opusrex on March 17, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Don’t miss any of the early Kenneth McKellar – especially The Songs of Robert Burns / Songs of the Hebrides pair.

Aristomenes on March 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM