- The Cat

Manson and first family member Mary Brunner conceived a child together in 1968 and he retains the last name of his mother: Micheal Brunner.

He was raised by his grandparents in Eau Claire, Wisconsin
until his mother was released from jail (Hawthorne robbery/shootout).Micheal and his mother Mary then moved to the Denver area.
After some bad experiences with interviews involving “Inside Edition”,”KCBS”,and Sally Jessie show(MSM cut and
Paste jobs),he moved back to Wisconsin.
Micheal graduated high school,has a child and live in girlfriend(as of the early 90’s),has a real estate license and pretty much is middle class America and has not gotten
in any real trouble his whole life.

“Clem”(Steve Grogan) is the only Family member convicted of murder(Shorty Shea) to be paroled.He stayed in California
as of the early 90’s.

There is little to no chance that anything will come out of
finding more bodies except maybe closure for family and closing old case’s if the bodies can be identified.

The family members behind bars have nothing to gain from
revealing knowledge of other murders and the family members
on the outside are harder to get to talk than Al-Qaeda.

Already stated above, the best reading on the Manson Family is “The Family” by Ed Sanders and “Helter Skelter” by
Vincent Bugliosi and Curt Gentry.

Most interviews done by Manson are crap.
Manson will play the “Crazy Messiah” for people like Heraldo
and 20/20.The guy is 100% prison con and was able to use
this,drugs,sex,and isolation to get some lost souls to carry out his “get back” against society.

For excellent information on the Manson case and background
on the family:

Charliemanson.com

one of the better interviews:

Charles Manson Superstar/DVD

Reading:

Helter Skelter/Vincent Bugliosi Charles Gentry

The Family/ Ed Sanders

My life with Charles Manson/ Paul Watkins (Family Member)

Will you die for me/ Tex Watson (Family Member)

The Shadow over Santa Susana/ Adam Gorightly

The Garbage People/ Ron Kenner

The Manson File/ Nikolas Schreck

“The real unsung hero of that story was Death Valley
Deputy Sheriff Don Ward.”

Ward certainly was part of the puzzle that had to be put
together to bring Manson down,But the jail house confession
of Susan Atkins that was reported by Ronnie Howard and the
early interviews/testimony by Straight Satan’s Al Springer
and Danny DeCarlo is what broke this case wide open.

The murders and motives of them were so bizarre that many credible leads were dismissed due to the fact that LA Robbery/Homicide were convinced that the murders were drug related.

One man being able to control so many and have them murder
for you without the slightest remorse in such a barbaric way
is freighting and makes for very compelling research.

If you want to consider something really creepy: whatever happened to all the kids who were living with the Manson family at the time of its arrest, including many of Manson’s own bastard children?

WasatchMan on March 16, 2008 at 5:18 PM

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According to “Helter Skelter,” all the kids Manson fathered were put up for adoption and their real names were never revealed to them (as of 1994–the date of my copy).

I’m very much a law-and-order person, but if you look at what they’ve got on Leslie Van Houten, she should have been paroled years ago. She’s the one who has the best shot at getting out…forget Watson, Atkins, and probably Krenwinkle. I won’t go through the whole thing here, and I’m not sure this is necessarily the most sympathetic audience on Hot Air, but she deserves to be paroled. I doubt she ever will be paroled, due to the great notoriety of this crime, but she should be.

In other words, he was murdered !!!

… and I hope they catch his murderers.

The real unsung hero of that story is Death Valley Deputy Sheriff Don Ward. He’s the one that brought down the Family, not Bugliosi.

I remember finding what looked like a human arm bone, but figured it must’ve come from some animal….(/jk)

“…..unmarked gravesites which could hold the remains of hitchhikers and transients unfortunate enough to cross their path”

Can you possibly imagine their last moments alive?

Pour souls, I pray they eventually found peace.

They only got in trouble, because they refused to have sex with the rotting corpses!

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM

With street festivals named after them!

Hit the wrong darned button first!

cheers

eon

At the time, I was pretty sure that there were more certifiably crazy running around loose than the medical community believed. I believe that subsequent history (Son of Sam, Green River, etc.) confirms my analysis back then.

On the plus side, if remains can be found, identified, and tied to a specific murder committed by Manson and his death cult, they can probably still be charged (if the cases are still “cold open”, Statute of Limitations has not yet kicked in), and a couple more convictions on their rap sheets should pretty thoroughly guarantee that Manson & Co. won’t be eligible for parole anytime in this century.

cheers

eon

The stories got forgotten for a couple of reasons. First, without bodies and/or more specific confessions or admissions, prosecutors couldn’t build a case against any of the Manson Family.

I disagree with that. They had the bodies of Sharon Tate, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Voytec Frykowski, Leno LaBianca and Rosemary LaBianca. They had the city of Los Angeles living in fear and the eyes of the country following that case. That admission was more than enough to get the search warrant. I did read Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, lived through the times and walked away with the feeling that is wasn’t good old fashioned detective work that got those convictions. The LAPD didn’t appear to communicate with each other. That same Nov 1 confession was enough to get Bugliosi and his crew out to the Spann Ranch to conduct the search. It kinda looks like they were more interested in closing the murder cases of Sharon Tate, Steven Parent, Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Voytec Frykowski, Leno LaBianca and Rosemary LaBianca, rather than do their job and follow up on the confession of a gal that they saw fit to offer a deal to..

‘Live freaky, die freaky…’

Purple Fury on March 16, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Then don’t waste your money on “Helter Skelter” (book about the Manson murders written by the prosecuting attorney) because you won’t get past the first chapter. The book reveals the depravity man is capable of and why these murderers should never be paroled.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/16/down-the-memory-hole-wrights-testimonial-deleted-from-obamas-website/