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posted at 10:15 pm on March 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
“But the more women I talked to, the more it became clear that hotness was, for them, the largest factor in the equation of their self-worth.”
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Faith, intelligence, attitude, ability, character–all more important than “hotness”. Yet society makes “hotness” the number one priority.
jgapinoy on March 15, 2008 at 10:19 PM
$100 for the all-you-can-drink bracelet? Man, inflation is a killer.
JammieWearingFool on March 15, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I like hotness in a woman. Well, maybe not so much hotness as physical beauty. Hotness seems so transitory.
jaime on March 15, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Well, lets not just toss it out the window. Its definitely in the Top 5 most important things. Okay, top 3.
AbaddonsReign on March 15, 2008 at 10:28 PM
How important is the hotness fact on a scale of 10 to rosie 0′ ?
William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 10:29 PM
I am going to start a “hotness” rating company….
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 10:34 PM
as disturbing as the observations in this article are, believe me when i tell you that gender equality and attitudes in american society are LIGHTYEARS ahead of thailand, where i live now, and also japan, where i lived for several years before this…
homesickamerican on March 15, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I am always astonished with how astonished many in the Press are when they look at their own creation. Popular culture, and even many areas of modern scholarship, have viewed sexual expression as the highest form of self actualization for over a century. One of the best cinematic renditions of this idea is the movie Pleasantville. This sexual self actualization seems poetic when it is isolated in philosophy theses or movies or novels, but when it is being put into practice by a large portion of a society, it becomes quite ugly and, as this lady points out, raunchy. But then again, sense sex is being, then being raunchy can only be understood as being confident. ‘Course, I guess the 25% of teenage girls with STD’s can be seen as a heath achievement. For though their bodies are being eaten by disease, they have separated themselves from the “we” and have truly become “I.”
Weight of Glory on March 15, 2008 at 10:36 PM
And indication how superficial society has become. Obama’s popularity is a good example. So too is the idea that John McCain is a “patriot” just because he was a POW.
Society has lost the ablity to use critical thinking skills or care more about the nation than how much attention they pay to Paris, Lindsey, Brittney, or some other self-absorbed whore.
highhopes on March 15, 2008 at 10:37 PM
sense sexsince sex
I think all sex is sense sex.
Proofread!
Weight of Glory on March 15, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Ha! I would gladly wear the label ‘prude’ than participate in Spring Break craziness.
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Let’s do be quite, quite clear on this matter. John McCain is indeed a patriot. He volunteered to fight for our country. That makes the man a patriot. And when he was offered a quick release from the POW camp, he refused to take it until his comrades were also released. Now, I am not altogether pleased with John McCain’s stand on various issues. But when he did that, the man punched his hero card.
Do not paint so broadly that you reject patriotism and nobility in a man with whom you presently disagree, or you cheapen and make subject to the whims of the audience and chattering classes that which is of right a more endurable stuff.
Scribbler on March 15, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Is this being measured in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Did I just see the Liberal Media complaining about something the Liberal Media created?
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Has a study ever been conducted that looked at if college folk are drinking (et al) more so now, then they were before?
I doubt the results would be surprising.
PresidenToor on March 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
That has always been a factor. Including glamor and fashion. When did you ever see a 2000 year old or older artifact (like pottery) uncovered by archiologists or anthropologists that has paintings or pictures of poor or impoverished looking women on it? you never will. you will always see pictures of attractive women doing chores while wearing nice clothing (not work clothes).
Would any women in our audience (are there any?) buy a dress or shirt if it was modeled by a fat, ugly woman holding a cheeseburger on at Gap poster? I dont think so.
I am amazed at how the media becomes amazed at things that are not news when you really think about it. what retards.
Oh my God! Water is refreshing! It can deter dehydration!
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
And why do women & men think their worth is tied up with sexual desirability? Look at MTV, Hollywood, our liberal MSM, advertisers, catalogues, and so forth. They are selling sex and the lie that that is the most important value in life. How pathetically sad and destructive to our youth and culture.
wepeople on March 15, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I want to become a “hotness credits” broker. That way if a woman who is a stone fox is having a bad hair day, or just wants to kind of the take the day off, she can call me, put on some sweats, put her hair in a ponytail, and put on that gimme-cap, and I’ll sell her hotness for the day to someone who really needs it. Sounds like there would be plenty of takers.
smellthecoffee on March 15, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I left (literally walked out on) a 15 year career at a private University after finally realizing that today’s college students are the most mindless, buzz-obsessed, brainless group of idiots in the history of this country. It got worse and worse every year. The college freshmen I met 15 yrs ago were smarter than the seniors I said goodbye to last year. And I’m not exaggerating.
If you are a parent, and you have a kid in college right now, then just know that about 60% of all college students are learning very little, care very little, and live as if the entire society owes them a 40,000 a yr “career” as someone else’s boss the day after commencement.
Also know that, as a parent, your child is more likely than not to use drugs this weekend, cheat on a test next week, plagarize their next paper, lie to an administrator or professor at some point this month, and do something very very unsafe on their next date. Oh, and they lie to their parents almost every day. I know, because I’d hear them do it or brag about doing while sitting in my office every single day.
Who do I blame? I blame the parents for not holding their kids accountable and for fighting every single battle their kid asks them to fight on their behalf. I blame all of the parents who called my office and threatened to sue me if I punished their son or daughter for having drugs in their dorm room. I blame all of the parents who blame some other kid for their kids emotional disconnect and inability to live with a roommate. I blame every parent who called my office to tell me that cheating was ok because everyone else does it, so my kid needs to do it to. I blame every parent for not accepting “no” as an answer who answer shop from one end of campus to the other until they can browbeat some stressed out administrator or VP into giving their precious spoiled baby a single room, a third chance, or some other underserved and unearned break.
I also blame the Presidents of all of our illustrious Halls of Higher Learner who are so timid and ridiculous that they spend most of their days avoiding phone calls, tough decisions, and any accountability. And yes, many of them DO hide under their desks.
I work for a bank now. Never been happier. My kid is going to commute.
Gartrip on March 15, 2008 at 11:08 PM
What Ferraro said (& what I’ve been saying for months) about Obama being where he is just because he’s Black–you can apply that to multitudes of famous women & hotness.
If an actress isn’t sexy, if a newscaster isn’t attractive, if a singer isn’t eye candy, she is at a huge disadvantage.
The most talented actresses, female newscasters, & singers are probably rejected because the prettier but less talented one gets the job.
jgapinoy on March 15, 2008 at 11:11 PM
EG, you forgot the more obvious one – water is wet.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 11:12 PM
EG,you forgot the more obvious one-water is wet.
Entelechy on March 15,2008 at 11:12PM.
Entelechy:More obvious one-water is wet.
and also slippery when wet!Haha
canopfor on March 15, 2008 at 11:18 PM
wepeople
Glorification = pornification. Just like parents, if kids see mommy and daddy do it they accept it as an acceptable norm (like divorce or adultry). And Hollywood or pro sports role models or politicians are no exception. Smoking, sex, drugs, unruly behavior in school, etc, it becomes “cool” in the eyes of the impressionable.
Gartrip
Please get back into teaching. Maybe a private school? We need people like you.
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM
You are using the wrong filters, friend.
John McCain’s military record is beyond reproach. I resent the way that I am told to shut up and not bring up all the ways he POLITICALLY is wrong because of those events. The chattering class is telling me I am wrong to bring him to task for calling me a racist because he was a POW. I’m unwilling to do that.
I respect his military record but he is a political traitor and an unfit candidate so far as I am concerned. I resent being told to ignore the two decades since his inprisonment as insignificant because he was a POW.
highhopes on March 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM
This Hotness factor,or more in the words
of Hanio Janes stutten on the A/A guns.
Her comment of New Orleans been,ahum the centre
of America might also reverberate with the young-ins.
I dare say Florida I think would like to abonden
their welcome mat for the Hotness factor and get away
from the appearence of that part of spring being the
mecca of the centre, a ahum!
canopfor on March 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM
No wonder that todays women are not interested in being wives and having children. Hotness – fodder for the abortion mills.
docdave on March 15, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Heh. I was thinking it was a good deal. I wonder if I have a problem.
James OK on March 15, 2008 at 11:36 PM
highhopes
Relax brother, being a POW or a veteran does not give you immunity to political criticism. McCain knows that. But if you’re a liberal, it does. For some reason when i criticize Obama’s vote AGAINST denying early parole for sexual predators (in other words, he wanted sexual offenders to get early parole-which more often than not they repeat offense when paroled early), I get called a racist. Even though race was never the topic.
I agree docdave women now adays see the side effects of child baring as insulting. maybe it is becasue we are lacking real men in our society. instead of looking past the stretch marks and weight gain and loving our new family, the typical male lets his hormones gethte best of him and he cheats.
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:38 PM
When you get a little older you will discover that inner beauty is a lot more important than outer beauty.
Johan Klaus on March 15, 2008 at 11:40 PM
I know. The folks are often talking about my “hotness” instead of my political prowess. It hurts, it really does. Thank god I will fight to the death for my ugly troll candidate Maverick, so that everything evens out.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 11:40 PM
He is better than Obama’s ignorance (or lies) about his knowledge of his own 20+ year pastor’s racism, or the Clintons’ adultary, smear campaigns, murders, questionable suicides deaths and disappearances of service members and secret service, and trying to pass treaties and laws with out congress and the senate (do i need to get into their pardon record?).
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:46 PM
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:46 PM
No. Cause you lived in Sanford, NC. Right?
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 11:52 PM
??? Elaborate.
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:55 PM
of course without revealing my real name. naturally.
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM
i have the memory of an elephant. if you know me, something will remind me of you without revealing either of our true names.
El Guapo on March 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I think this is legitimately sad. It definitely illustrates that people tend to take their self-worth by the way others judge them, a problem magnified when that judgment is on looks. I’ve never been a position to complain about the negative side of that, so I guess that’s easy for me to say…, but I still think I can objectively say – When is that ever a path to happiness? I don’t think it ever can be.
Spirit of 1776 on March 15, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Spirit of 1776
You just, in a round-a-bout way, cited one of the apects of the infamous phrase, “Liberalism is a mental disorder”.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:01 AM
……. you forgot one, …. smell.
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 12:11 AM
It has nothing to do with age. There are 50 year old actresses in Hollywood who have plastic surgery every other month in order to look good, trying to compete with the newest 20 year old starlet.
It’s a mentality. And the day you figure it out, either young or old, is the day you become an enemy of society.
Sydney Carton on March 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Not exactly a very high bar for being a patriot, something that includes so many people. Inflation maybe?
Besides anyone who thinks that Americans are such slackers that they can not even pick lettuce for $50 an hour is not a patriot, not an American patriot anyway.
Just how many bonus points did McCain’s “POW card” give him anyway and how long is it good for?
I would think that his anti-American plantation owners supporting shamnesty would have used up all those bonus points and then some. With his anti-First Amendment McCain/Feingold bill surely he must be in the hole by now.
It has been 35 fracked years. Hasn’t his “POW card” expired by now anyway? Got to be the closest thing to eternal life if it hasn’t.
Oh, BTW, did you know that John Kerry was in Vietnam?
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 12:16 AM
….. yeah, and this proves it.
Yum!
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Nice to see you again MB4.
I agree with that. I worked literally from the bottom up. A lot of people would rather collect welfare than flip burgers or pick crops because that kind of work is “demeaning” to them. ??? you have to start somewhere!
When i was in HS i picked strawberries and was paid by the quart! i had a paper route. and i flipped burgers. Even Carlos Mencia interviewed a woman who complained aobut being able to find a job, but when he pointed to the “help wanted” sign in McDanolds behind him, she replied, “I’m not working there!”
Americans are spoiled and lazy. And typical customer service from anywhere is indicative of that.
Yes, John Kerry was in Nam for a fraction of the time McCain was. And McCain did not make blanket statements infront of congress that later turned out to be either lies or no way of proving, which still made our military look like the bad guys.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Time to go out! it maybe 12:30 for you easterners, but it’s only 9:30 on the left coast!
The Chosen One
send me an email, or look for me later on. always nice to hear from old friends. Later.
http://www.fairtax.org
not perfect, but by far better than what we currently have!
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:34 AM
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Absolutely chompin’ at the bit to go into the Juan McShamnesty Strawberries Plantation Bananas Coyote Straw Hat bit.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/07/60minutes/main3917681.shtml
Mav on 60 minutes for ya. War Hero. Watch it if you have the grapefruits. Never mind, I just answered my own question.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Hey Chosen One nice reference. but you never answered my question.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I think that you probably realize that the comparison was to how tired from overuse that both have become.
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Well you know what they say about that.
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 12:43 AM
But the commercial about E85 is total BS! It costs more money, takes more water and energy and creates more polution just to create ethanol from corn, just to get an average of 75% return on energy. It takes an average 25% more energy to make corn ethanol than the energy it yields. (I have friends who are in the business who admit their company would not be doing it if the gov’t wasnt offsetting that loss with our tax $$). in otherwords, it is not effiecient!
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:43 AM
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Relax El Guapo. I’m not calling ICE. We spoke on another thread months ago, and you mentioned NC. I live in a town called Vass, just north of Pinehurst and south of Sanford. Take it easy, go have some cervesas.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 12:44 AM
No wonder 25% of them have STD’s
eaglesdontflock on March 16, 2008 at 12:46 AM
LOL THE CHOSEN ONE
I thought maybe you were someone i was stationed with!
As for the cervezas, you’re about 6 too late.
But, being still sound mind, and not inebriated, ..
McCain’s stance on the surge and his admitting to not knowing economics and would rely on advisors, unlike liberals who claim tobe experts in everything (and end up screwing up everything), I am almost ready to become a republican again.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:48 AM
For all of those who said Mav shouldn’t have friends in the MSM, and shouldn’t work across the isle, that will come back to cost you. He’s get’s press like the 60 minutes interview, just years after they tried to kill W with the National Guard non story. The Times is basically irrelevant the rest of the election cycle, and every charge toward McCain will hurt BUSINESS which is no. 1.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE OLIVE BRANCH FOR EVER DOUBTING THE GUY, I’LL BE HERE FOR YOU AND YOUR IRRATIONAL THOUGHTS.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 12:52 AM
LOL Look at the most recent movie Juno. Will having babies in high school become popular soon?
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Right now MB4 hasn’t posted so he’s balls deep into the 60 minutes Maverick interview I assume.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Hotness is #1?
Well, I’m outta luck, then.
/darned smart, though, does that count for anything?
Bob's Kid on March 16, 2008 at 12:57 AM
For every cheating man there is a women aiding and abeting him, and they used to call her a whore. I believe women in the past, before the so-called 60s sex revolution, knew how to contain a males runaway hormonal passions. Now with their dress and manners they (the women) seem to encourage it.
docdave on March 16, 2008 at 1:03 AM
You know what they say about “assuming”.
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 1:03 AM
I have to disagree with your approach. Instead, let me be the one who incites the conservatives to come out and make their voices heard.
Look folks, all it takes is a simple email to your congressman (or a letter or office visit). I get replies all the time to my emails (and not auto-responses either). I have candidates looking into the FairTax and why we aren’t allowed to build more nuke power plants and recycle spent nuke fuel rods because of my emails. The problem is that the radical minority (liberals) are louder and have more free time during business hours than we do. (We work hard for a living) Start sending emails to your reps and senators. Tell your family and friends to do the same! Eventually, hopefully, that rep will see your point of view and weigh it accordingly instead of being fooled into thinking the loud minority, who has to much free time, is representative of the majority. It all starts with you. START SPEAKING UP DANG IT! It all starts with YOU. Good night. God Bless.
When we have a real conservative and constitutional congress and senate, a liberal president won’t matter.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 1:04 AM
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…… add this to your file. Listen to the audio. Then have a good nights sleep.
Enjoy…….
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 1:04 AM
You may want to take a bathroom break once in a while.
MB4 on March 16, 2008 at 1:06 AM
I painfully agree. But history always runs in cycles, just like fashion. I heard a recent study that family values are slowly coming back. So maybe there is hope.
El Guapo on March 16, 2008 at 1:06 AM
By the way, brother or sister, I chose you because you are a fire plug and it was my hope that if I quoted you, more people would link, upload, listen, and read…
I just wanted you to know, that although I don’t agree with every thing you contribute, I do enjoy your input, none the less………
Please, as with everyone, don’t stop, just be respecfull…
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 1:09 AM
My collie says:
CyberCipher on March 16, 2008 at 1:25 AM
I bring ratings to Hotair. I’m the new Hot “Thang” here. Controversial, yes. Hip, no. Compromising, absolutely not. Every good spot has its “in” folk. Your welcome Hotair, no need to pamper me with free Hotair merchandise. I’m coming out with my own line of “Moderation or Death” gear. It’s big in Europe(except Britain and France) right now. The jewish Czechs can’t get enough it as we speak.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 1:29 AM
I don’t see any reason to be shocked or even dismayed that young women earnestly desire to be “hot.” In former times, before poisons of sterility and abortion were readily available, being hot meant a woman would probably have children with a healthy, wealthy, honored man. Men’s perception of hotness seems to be, in part, their instinctive perception of a young woman’s exuberantly good health and, therefore, of her fitness for childbearing. It also seems to be their instinctive perception that a woman’s features are somehow optimal for human life.
One can criticize some of the things women do in order to be hot, on the grounds that those actions are unhealthy or deceptive and therefore defective from the standpoint of the end. However, putting women down just for earnestly wanting to be hot seems to be life-denying, decadent moralism.
Kralizec on March 16, 2008 at 1:33 AM
I’m going to tone down my “hotness” as well. I’m tired of being judged by my great body. My incredible comments get lil’ respect. What to do?
By the way, if any of you have “TOOL-10,000 Days”, uhh put it in with a hearty bottle or red and let’s do this.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 16, 2008 at 1:38 AM
….. I tried, have fun with it. . . . esse!
Seven Percent Solution on March 16, 2008 at 2:41 AM
Of course. That memory is seared into my brain.
soundingboard on March 16, 2008 at 4:05 AM
I’m invoicing you for the replacement retinas.
soundingboard on March 16, 2008 at 4:09 AM
Just when I was beginning to lean Mav’s way…
soundingboard on March 16, 2008 at 4:11 AM
Thank you for the most erudite comment on this topic.
What honestly scares me (as I work for a PD in a alcohol-sodden college town – if that’s not a redundancy – and see -plenty of what you cite) is that these are the future bosses, supervisors and managers of my 8-year old son.
Captain Scarlet on March 16, 2008 at 5:53 AM
I agree that there still is moral virtue in our society
but I think you will find it mostly in the religious communities and not in atheistic secularism.
docdave on March 16, 2008 at 6:03 AM
I spent the last week in South Beach for a conference. The place was packed with spring breakers. Judging by the skimpy clothing and other public displays, I’d say the statement above is sadly correct.
Zorro on March 16, 2008 at 7:01 AM
YUP! that is why 25% of teen girls in the U.S. have a Sexually Transmitted Disease. Fathers and mothers have caved to being a “friend” instead of being parents, indulging teens instead of guiding them and disciplining them. Unless American parents awaken, I weep for the future generations of self-absorbed, self-centered, self-serving and just plain selfish children.
jimbo2008 on March 16, 2008 at 8:38 AM
Yup. Interestingly, a Townhall columnist has written a book of that title on this very topic: how this kind of culture damages girls (and guys too).
inviolet on March 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM
I prefer Darwinism myself :)
BTW, how did we regress to McCain?
OldEnglish on March 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM
this is indicative the lack of values in the American culture (America used to be a special place…remember all those WWII movies where the guy meets a girl, gets married and goes off to fight for the good guys?)
That’s why me and thousands of other single/divorced American guys go to Latin America and Central America to find a woman of family values, romance, and fidelity.
Of course, if you don’t subscribe to those values, stay away, don’t ruin it for the guys that ARE looking for good Christian values in a woman (and children).
I’ve met my woman, whom I could only dream about in material-feminist-laden America in Costa Rica.
daytrader on March 16, 2008 at 11:05 AM
That’s just demonstrably false. You can’t seriously claim that in a country with this level of obesity, any significant percentage of population is obsessed with hotness.
freevillage on March 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM
These child-adults are being demonized by being products of their parents and the change their parents brought about with the “sexual revolution.” Kids are growing up in a conflicting culture – they are too young to think for themselves (voting at 18, drinking age is 21) but are allowed to make extremely adult decision (birth control without parental consent, age of consent -16, 15, whatever) – they have an unparalleled level of freedom of self-expression yet at the same time no way to express their true selves because of indoctrination of schools and television of what a teenager is supposed to be. They are forced to be grown up at too young of an age, and forced to remain childlike for too long- elongated adolescence. They are given wings and told not to fly because when they do they find their wings don’t work because they turned out to be an illusion to begin with. What recourse do they have but to believe the superficiality of what is important when it has been abundantly demonstrated that nothing is important, that they cannot trust their own ideas? It is easier to pretend life is a game than to take it seriously, especially when no one takes them seriously.
Girls think that their sexuality is currency without realizing that the more they use it the less valuable it becomes; guys get to enjoy sex without the repercussions and remain in perpetual adolescence.
Everyone is flailing about, trying to find the happy medium. Everyone is simply looking to be loved for who they are while trying to wear a mask so they won’t be judged for who they are. It is a delicate line – how can you love someone without knowing who they are? How can you love yourself if you don’t know who you are?
Blight on March 16, 2008 at 12:33 PM
I’d like to start a company like Carfax for women, and name it HoFax. It would be nice to get a history report and check their “mileage” so you don’t waste any time on the bad ones.
Afterimage on March 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM