Obama in Indiana: “[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”
posted at 5:16 pm on March 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A reference to Wright? Doubtful — the ugly-head-raising he has in mind has been happening “over the last several weeks,” a timeline which would seem to point away from kindly Rev. Jeremiah and towards … who? Hillary? The GOP? Or the great mysterious They that’s forever trying to engineer race-hate, lately through the appalling practice of criticizing Barack Obama for shrugging off his spiritual guru’s rhetorical poison for 20 years? By caring that he’s bosom buddies with a hate merchant, you’re letting Them win — and he simply “will not allow us to lose this moment.” So here’s six minutes on MLK, RFK, and why it’s so important not to let the project of American unity be sidetracked by pausing to wonder how seriously he takes that project when he’s not busy running for president. The transcript’s here if you can’t spare the time. Consider it a refinement on Kaus’s post from this morning: Not so much “if it offends you, I condemn it!” as “if it offends you, you’re standing in the way of progress!”
Two lines to watch out for: His reminder that there is no “white America,” a point on which he once seemed to take a different view if Newsmax is to be believed, and the importance of speaking out forcefully “when people say things like my former pastor said.” By “when,” I can only assume he means, “within 20 years, assuming it’s politically convenient to do so.”
Update: As much as some of the left might wish it were so, it’s not just the wingnuts who find this problematic.
Update: I’m not accusing him of not finding Wright divisive; clearly he does or else he wouldn’t have been all over cable last night denouncing the sermons. I’m saying that, given how old the sermons are, his emphasis on “the last several weeks” means Wright’s obviously not one of the dark “forces” he suspects of conspiring against the coming of Hope and Change. He’s referring to Ferraro (and, by proxy, Hillary) and to the media, per what he says here about the supposed cherry-picking of Wright’s nuttier comments and the clips being shown on television. If anything, cantankerous old Uncle Jeremiah’s just being exploited for their nefarious purposes.
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Yes, Barak, your RACIST wife and pastor won’t shut up. You should tell them to pipe down and then apologize to America.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Ew, a threat.
SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 7:02 PM
What has Michelle Obama said that is considered racist?
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Come the general election, we’re gonna find out just how many RACIST DEMOCRATS there are. This is and will be the most laughable election year in modern history.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 7:06 PM
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Did you read her thesis statements? A little over the top and paranoid about being black in the 1980’s when she was doing well as a lawyer.
Then her not proud of America statement wasn’t directly racist, but there was more there if you listened close enough.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 7:09 PM
KosKiddie?
ArmyAunt on March 15, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Go to 13:50 And Obama goes on and On about his Church and reverend Wright
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=33004@wbbm.dayport.com
William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Obonga mole.
SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM
The great V. D. Hanson nailed it, again. A HA commenter linked article, above. Thank you.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I live in Indiana, and somehow I missed this. I am sorry, but I think the unity thing is getting a little stale.
Terrye on March 15, 2008 at 7:19 PM
V. D. Hanson
I bet Michelle O. does, but she’ll be restrained from now on, if that’s possible.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Well, just got back from reading the Huffpo comments on this story. Just as I suspected the majority of the posters there don’t see anything wrong with Wright’s comments. We’ll see in the coming days how much more play this story gets. Now off to the shower I go.
kongzilla on March 15, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Not only is O-Racist the Messiah, but now he is also a magician (maybe these are miracles:-).
Yesterday, he made all the Obamicans disappear. Rasmussen says 7% drop overnight.
faraway on March 15, 2008 at 7:26 PM
So is the HA crowd back to supporting Hillary? I get confused when I check out.
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Read Mr. Hanson’s article. You won’t be sorry, not for a word.
Quote of the day:
Poor puppies…it’s thicker than molasses…
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Lou Dobbs is slamming Oprahbama on CNN right now over the lies he’s telling about illegal immigration. Heh.
SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Rational Americans should be asking for Obama to withdraw from the race.
faraway on March 15, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Forgot to add, first hand feedback - the Europeans are devastated over all this. Their Utopian idealism is crushed. Poooffff! Schadenfreude upon my liberal compadres. The more they hate America, the more I love it, just like Mr. Steyn.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 7:41 PM
You are right, I was not. But then, I am rarely dissapointed by VDH.
I will confess that I have a soft spot for Obama for two reasons:
1) Up until now he has slayed the real beast which is the Clinton team.
2) I think he might be the next President of the United States and I will support him if he is.
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 7:46 PM
If O-Racist is toast:
What will happen to the poor Obama Girls?
Who will Oprah support?
Will Ray Nagin run for the nomination?
faraway on March 15, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Why the heck is he lecturing US on divisiveness?! He should be lecturing his pastor and his church!
He’s done. I felt sorry for him for a while today, but he and his crackpot philosophy deserve to be beat badly in this race.
PattyJ on March 15, 2008 at 7:49 PM
What he means by the forces of divisiveness rearing their ugly heads is people asking him uncomfortable questions and losing a couple of primaries.
Dan Collins on March 15, 2008 at 7:49 PM
The United States of White America
faraway on March 15, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Enjoy your socialist utopia.
ronsfi on March 15, 2008 at 7:51 PM
I’m not a betting type, but I’d stay away from this bet.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Since he is 1/2 Black and 1/2 White maybe part of it is self loathing..
It must suck to hate 1/2 of yourself.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Go to 1440 and Obama talks about Reverend Wright.
William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Obama’s Black 1/2 to his White 1/2, “You some B*tch! You White Devil! You invented the AIDS Virus to try and kill 1/2 of me!, You better give reparations to my other 1/2!”
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 7:56 PM
The more Americans find out about Obama the more they run screaming with their hair on fire. Once again the Donks manage to deftly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Humanity doesn’t need a savior as much as it needs a good spanking. Or is that just me?
ronsfi on March 15, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Pay not attention to the man behind the curtain!
Tzetzes on March 15, 2008 at 7:58 PM
There a whole lot of hoodwinking and bamboozling going on out there. I think we know the source.
tarpon on March 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Oh boy.. Now will Americans be asked to give reparations for AIDS too, or will “whites” be singles out?
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I had nothing to do with slavery or inventing the AIDS virus..
>:D
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Huh?
It shouldn’t be discussed because you’re tired of it or because all the layers are peeled off and there is nothing left to find? Obama has no policies to discuss we haven’t heard before. They are the same as Hillary’s. I’d say since we’re pretty close to electing a closet socialist who gets spiritual comfort from a toxic racial enviorment, we continue to find out just what his specific value systems are. We aren’t going to find out in sound bite interviews.
a capella on March 15, 2008 at 8:18 PM
This isn’t an “issue”, like tax cuts. It’s vile filth. And it should be talked about until the result of Obama’s complete political destruction is achieved. It’s a cancer. You gotta get it all out.
How does this come back to bite us? Some black people will be offended that others find this filth inexcusable? I don’t get it.
JiangxiDad on March 15, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I think the democrapic convention should feature a cage fight. Gambling allowed.
Zorro on March 15, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Mr. Hanson, yesterday:
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Oh, well, mistakes happen. Just don’t repeat the same ones…
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Absolutely stunning. “The forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”? Dude. Dude. Those ‘forces’ are your pastor, and the many other like him who are getting their ‘ugly heads’ exposed. And he attends and funds the church that spreads division and hate. Talk about audacity, more like: The Audacity of The Audacity. It never ceases to amaze me the pretzel logic of the left.
Over30 on March 15, 2008 at 8:30 PM
If you’re smart, you’d chose none.
According to the traditional rule, neither is used only to mean “not one or the other of two.”
You provided us with three choices (albeit in two hands).
Unless of course you are willing to assert that an “Islamic sympathizer” is fully synonymous with a “useful idiot”, something I wager you are not prepared to argue.
Buy Danish on March 15, 2008 at 8:32 PM
What happened to “eloquent Barack?” Lately when he talks he seems to stumble in his words, mumbling, stammering. Maybe he isn’t taking the time to memorize his speeches anymore?
p40tiger on March 15, 2008 at 8:33 PM
I hate to say this, but Hillary is the “moderate” democrat in this election.
Whodathunkit?
TexasJew on March 15, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Who are these shadowy Europeans? Sure the socialists there have similar views to those here, but as we see in France, at best they are only half the story.
Doesn’t look as if the British are devastated about BHO, but maybe you don’t consider them European?
Obama victory will increase racial disharmony, says British equality chief
Obama’s lack of patriotism will destroy his chances, says Cambridge Professor of International Studies
Why Brits don’t swoon over Obama
Pax americana on March 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Heh, I do “consider them European”. I stated before (on other threads) that they are the only exception to the Obama-blind-love. They support Hillary.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 8:41 PM
I think that Obama campaigning for Odinga who is responsible for injecting harsh muslim ideolgy into a nation that is 90% Christian and is pledged to that effort is outrageous! Thisneeds to be seen as a real good indicator of who Obama is. This guy shoud not even get close to being the president of this country.
CCRWM on March 15, 2008 at 8:47 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/2qtl5zo.jpg
America’s chickens are coming home to roost!
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Here you go: Barack Obama and his Cousin Raila Odinga
Michael in MI on March 15, 2008 at 8:51 PM
I lifted this link from one of the commenters in Headlines. It was too good to languish there.
http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Obama.Blacks.Quiet.2.337535.html
a capella on March 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Fried Turkey.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 8:52 PM
I have to disagree a bit. I think Obama knows xactly what he’s doing. I think he completely agrees with Wright. I think he knows that message would be completely unacceptable to Americans and he therefore is willing to peddle lies about being a uniter in order to gain power. I think he cuts deals with Jackson and Sharpton to shut up and keep low until after the election because he knows they are toxic outside the black community. Once in power he would pursue Wright’s agenda with abandon.
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Looks like Obama didn’t count on the not-so-quiet riot among non-Blacks that is occuring.
JiangxiDad on March 15, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Actually I posted here several pages back. But thanks for updating.
William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Who would have ever thought that Black on White Racism would have sunk the Dems in November? Only the dems could pull this off. I couldn’t have made this up if I tried. Go Mav, take us home.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Guess the deal is off now huh?
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Also, here is a good explanation of Barack Obama’s/Reverend Wright’s “Black Liberation Theology“. Have you heard of James H. Cone? Well read the link and you will know all about the mentor of Reverend Wright.
And for one of the most comprehensive sites on Barack Obama, be sure to read this: The Obama File
Michael in MI on March 15, 2008 at 9:10 PM
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Nowhere did I state anything to the contrary. I simply quoted Mr. Hanson in that time-slot. I agree with you. He’s trying to play it both ways now, which is impossible to achieve.
Unrelated to TBOD, what exactly is “a quiet riot”?
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 9:11 PM
BINGO. And this is why we can NOT allow this to just go away, as some commentors here want to do.
Michael in MI on March 15, 2008 at 9:12 PM
I meant I disagreed with Hanson’s generous analysis, not yours.
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM
An 80s glam metal band of coarse (LOL!)
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM
TBOD, we’re good :)
MiMI, good to see you back here.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Here is a mp3 of Michelle Obama’s “unplugged” speech given recently at UCLA…
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/a8b77fb9-4dd6-4045-9b43-3c656cba2f38
Here is the U-Tube version.
http://www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/asymmetric/2008/02/15/michelle-obama-at-ucla
Watch and listen carefully folks; this stuff is scary…
Keemo on March 15, 2008 at 9:20 PM
If I told you I went to a church, and my minister was a wizard in the KKK, and that I considered him a mentor, and a spiritual leader. Would you consider me to be a racist?
How can we beleive that Barak Obama is anything but a black supremacist racist? Not only does he need to suspend his campaign in shame, he must resign as senator, nothing else is acceptable in light of this revelation.
paulsur on March 15, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Writing a thesis about titled “Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community,” does not maker racist. Lets be careful in throwing around the “racist” label, ok.
My point is that the information is out there for the public to see now,we don’t have to dwell on it.
I saw it come will come back to bite us because we are playing the guilt by association game and the Dems will find someone McCain is associated with and play the exact same game and it won’t be fun!
It sounds like you are out for blood.
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 9:29 PM
If “Reverend” Wright had been paying attention, he would have known that the U.S. has given billions and pledged billions more $$ to help AIDS victims on the continent that gave AIDS to the world (according to epidemiologists): Wright’s sacred “motherland” of Africa.
Of course, acknowledging inconvenient facts like that wouldn’t help sell Wright’s message about how evil white Americans invented and deliberately spread AIDS, or how greedy white Americans do everything possible to keep Africans living in grinding poverty, etc.
AZCoyote on March 15, 2008 at 9:29 PM
If McCain had anything remotely as serious as this in his background he would get (and deserve) 7/24 coverage by the MSM and he would be forced out of the nomination and the Senate (deservedly so).
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 9:35 PM
And, no offense, but if you just think this is some “guilt ny association game” then you really don’t understand what’s going on here.
TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Ahem…
Jaibones on March 15, 2008 at 9:39 PM
You just go ahead and support anyone with a (R) in front of their name and see where it gets ya.
We can endlessly argue over whether or not Obama hates America (yes he does, no he doesn’t, yes he….) but the bottom line is that the one party who should be adults selected a man who has no regard for the Constitution, has nothing but disdain for the Conservative philoshphy, and is now lowered to the tactics of replaying what the Dems favored candidates Pastor and Wife espouse.
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I can’t all i see is a hate filled lady lusting for power.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 9:42 PM
If you want to unite the country like Obama says he wants to do then McCain IS the man to do it.
McCain has shown to be a centrist by actions, not by words.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I’m not interested in a united country. I am interested in limited government. Barack won’t don’t it. No Democrat will. But if the Republicans don’t nominate someone who will, why support them?
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Bob Beckel on Hannity making a stupid argument saying, “hannity are you saying that every child that went to that church isn’t qualified to be president”
Hey Beckel, Children DO NOT have a choice on what church that their parents bring them to!
Barack Obama was an ADULT AND OF HIS OWN FREE WILL WENT TO THAT CHURCH OF HATE! And brought his kids there!
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Fair enough.
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Obama’s toast. Attacking White America is no different than attacking Black America. Dividing Americans along racial lines is an ugly part of our history; this is a dynamic that needs to be part of our history and not part of the present or future. Sharpton and Jackson have acted on behalf of the DNC as agents to broker this racial hatred within black communities across the nation. We all know it, we all have looked the other way. As it turns out, this racial hatred has also been kept alive and well within the black church.
No longer can we look the other way. Dividing Americans along racial lines must be stopped now. Any American that brokers this hatred (white, black, brown) needs to be shunned by all. Americans should be judged by their character; their behavior; their integrity…
I’d have to say, Obama’s character is now getting vetted the way it should be. This man’s running for the most powerful position in the world. The MSM has had a year (minimum) to investigate just exactly who this man is; they may have done so, but they didn’t share anything with us. Michelle Obama opened up the flood gates; the Reverend “Wright” has brought on the storm; connections to the worst of people “mob” are now coming out. This man’s toast!
Keemo on March 15, 2008 at 9:52 PM
McCain NO EARMARKS!
No New Taxes.
Keep Bush Tax Cuts
Win In Iraq.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Stifle it white devil! >:D /Sarcasm
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM
In the “last few weeks”, the Clinton campaign has played politics the same way it always has - the only difference is this time the blunderbuss is aimed at another Democrat.
What’s going on, though, is Obama’s claiming “victim” status - he’s the ‘good guy’ for ‘change’ and all that, but those mean old political types are finally trying to give him the type of rectal exam politicians running for President have received for decades … and that’s just not right.
He’s essentially trying to make questioning / challenging him on whatever grounds out of bounds.
BD57 on March 15, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I wish reporters would question Obama on some of the issues raised in Wright’s “sermons.” For example:
–What does Obama think is the primary cause for the high rate of incarceration of black men in the U.S?
–Does Obama believe that the veneration of “gangsta” culture in the black community plays any role, and if so, how does he plan to address that?
–What does Obama believe is the primary cause for the relatively high rate of AIDS (and other STD’s) among blacks in the U.S?
–Does Obama believe that the celebration and promotion of sexual promiscuity in the black community plays any role, and if so, how does he plan to address that?
AZCoyote on March 15, 2008 at 9:56 PM
McCain Screw the First Amendment
Opposed Bush Tax cuts “for the Rich”
Supports Global Warming Legislation
No Waterboarding
Close Gitmo
Should I mention immigration?
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Thanks for the Mona Charen link. She continues to nail it when it comes to Obama.
Wow. I was going to suggest you go to the website of the Trinity United Church of Christ, and check out the map of Africa which has been prominently featured for months, but it appears to have been scrubbed. I shoulda made a screen shot.
Anyhoo, my point is that there is good reason to doubt where Obama’s loyalties lie. That’s rather unique in an American presidential candidate, don’t you think?
Buy Danish on March 15, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I thought segregation was something that we wanted to get past, why do they have “churches” designed to segregate people by race?
And he was a part of it, whats up with that?
Why are Churches segregated?
(Seems odd to me… for someone that wants “unity”)
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:04 PM
You act like he did that all on his own.
re:Mccain/Feingold
The Republican controlled Senate voted for it.
President Bush signed it didn’t he?
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I have no reason to doubt that Obama’s loyalties lie in America. He has repudiated his pastor’s comments, if he hadn’t then maybe I would wonder.
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 10:07 PM
My point exactly. If the Republicans won’t be conservative who will?
But that takes away from the topic at hand which is Wright’s disgraceful message and Obama political spin to deal with it.
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 10:08 PM
You’re quite easily swayed by words, aren’t you? No wonder his “just words” meme is working so well.
Buy Danish on March 15, 2008 at 10:12 PM
actually Democrats controlled Congress during McCain/Feingold..
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:14 PM
A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to provide bipartisan campaign reform.
Thompson (R-TN), Yea
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Heh. I just want to be careful about questioning someone’s patriotism. That’s all.
terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 10:18 PM
60-40 Mostly Democrats..
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:18 PM
It really depends on who you ask…. if you ask the right person, it might be revealed that you were a Captain of a slave ship which would make you between 200 and 300 years old, but let’s not allow logic and common sense get into the way now.
Hog Wild on March 15, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I thought McCain/Feingold was signed by Bush on March 27, 2002. The Democratic sweep was in 2006.
Oldnuke on March 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM
It was passed in 2001. The senate was split and the Republicans held the house.
sweeper on March 15, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I have to laugh at this whole situation.
Didn’t any of the people who are trying to ram Obama down our throats bother to think about the steamer trunks of steaming shite that Obama has attached to him?
The “reality-based community” is a gigantic insane asylum that has about as much to do with the real world as the Land of Oz does. There they all think the Obama’s and their racist pastors’ views are perfectly wonderful because they think exactly the same way. They are racists, Anti Americans, communists who support their allies the Islamofascists in every way they can. Unfortunately for them they are getting a heavy dose of reality this week and it is driving them batty (well, more batty then usual). Their inability to comprehend why this is “such a big deal” only serves to show just how detached from reality they are. After a couple of days of this they are showing their insanity because they keep on trying to toss the race card at any and all who are offended by Obama and his “pastors’” racist, anti American beliefs and are wondering why it isn’t working.
Nahanni on March 15, 2008 at 10:30 PM
McCain-Feingold
48 Democrat Yea’s
2 Democrat Nea’s (50 Democrat Total)
11 Republican Yea’s
38 Republican Nea’s (49 Republicans)
1 Independent Yea
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Democrats had it before Republicans had it for a short period of time..
When Bush came into office the Senate was controlled by the dems.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Democrats Take Control of Senate
Thursday, May 24, 2001; 11:53 a.m. EDT
WASHINGTON –– In a seismic shift of power, Democrats will gain control of the Senate for the first time since 1994 after Vermont Sen. James Jeffords abandoned the Republican Party and declared himself an independent Thursday.
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Sheesh..
Remember that?
Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 10:41 PM
I see. I’ve always thought that congress consisted of both The House and Senate. If that’s true then the Democrats did not control congress when McCain Feingold was signed into law. They only had a slight advantage in the Senate with the House in Republican hands by a larger margin.
Oldnuke on March 15, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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