Obama in Indiana: “[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”

posted at 5:16 pm on March 15, 2008 by Allahpundit

A reference to Wright? Doubtful — the ugly-head-raising he has in mind has been happening “over the last several weeks,” a timeline which would seem to point away from kindly Rev. Jeremiah and towards … who? Hillary? The GOP? Or the great mysterious They that’s forever trying to engineer race-hate, lately through the appalling practice of criticizing Barack Obama for shrugging off his spiritual guru’s rhetorical poison for 20 years? By caring that he’s bosom buddies with a hate merchant, you’re letting Them win — and he simply “will not allow us to lose this moment.” So here’s six minutes on MLK, RFK, and why it’s so important not to let the project of American unity be sidetracked by pausing to wonder how seriously he takes that project when he’s not busy running for president. The transcript’s here if you can’t spare the time. Consider it a refinement on Kaus’s post from this morning: Not so much “if it offends you, I condemn it!” as “if it offends you, you’re standing in the way of progress!”

Two lines to watch out for: His reminder that there is no “white America,” a point on which he once seemed to take a different view if Newsmax is to be believed, and the importance of speaking out forcefully “when people say things like my former pastor said.” By “when,” I can only assume he means, “within 20 years, assuming it’s politically convenient to do so.”

Update: As much as some of the left might wish it were so, it’s not just the wingnuts who find this problematic.

Update: I’m not accusing him of not finding Wright divisive; clearly he does or else he wouldn’t have been all over cable last night denouncing the sermons. I’m saying that, given how old the sermons are, his emphasis on “the last several weeks” means Wright’s obviously not one of the dark “forces” he suspects of conspiring against the coming of Hope and Change. He’s referring to Ferraro (and, by proxy, Hillary) and to the media, per what he says here about the supposed cherry-picking of Wright’s nuttier comments and the clips being shown on television. If anything, cantankerous old Uncle Jeremiah’s just being exploited for their nefarious purposes.

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And with this, I’m officially Obama’d out.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

former pastor

Convenient.

fourstringfuror on March 15, 2008 at 5:19 PM

First-posting your own post, eh?

fourstringfuror on March 15, 2008 at 5:20 PM

“We’ve got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding.”

And he gets a dose of it every Sunday in church.

Kowboy on March 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Translation: “*I* want to lead you to a land of milk and honey… but if you choose to listen to people talking about Wright’s hate filled rhetoric then YOU are part of the problem”

Skywise on March 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Former pastor

former as in “I repudiate him and have resigned from his church,” or former as in “Wright has retired and he is no longer a pastor at the church.”

nuance

Mallard T. Drake on March 15, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Ugly head?

Helen Thomas is a force of division?

…on second thought, that makes sense.

sulla on March 15, 2008 at 5:23 PM

And with this, I’m officially Obama’d out.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

That makes two of us.

txsurveyor on March 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/06/23/a_politics_of_conscience_1.php

But somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked. Part of it’s because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who’ve been all too eager to exploit what divides us. At every opportunity, they’ve told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their Church…

Does anyone have a database of Wright’s inflammatory statements?

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Sorry Obama it’s not going to work . . . your house of cards is collapsing around you. Enough of your phony “milk and honey” BS.

rplat on March 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM

And with this, I’m officially Obama’d out.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

Now you know how a lot of us Illinoisans feel.

He’s doing the standard Chicago double speak two-step. It’s not easy to tolerate for long, and that’s why they do it.

Seriously, man .. while reading your post, I was wondering how on earth you could keep your bearings in the Obama spin cycle.

Be patient. It’ll get easier. At this rate, the stories will write themselves.

yo on March 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM

I wonder what they will be talking about on the Sunday morning news shows tomorrow? Hmmm, anything hot in the news lately? ;-)

Mallard T. Drake on March 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM

A reference to Wright? Doubtful

He specifically mentions Wright and his comments.

Tom_Shipley on March 15, 2008 at 5:27 PM

We haven’t even gotten to Raila Odinga yet.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 5:29 PM

It looks like he is going to have to exercise the racism and hate America first from his own wife. And what have his children been subjected to?
His answers are well crafted but somehow not believable…

d1carter on March 15, 2008 at 5:29 PM

He is trying to turn it around….as in….look over there! See they are the ones trying to divide…..not me and my rev.

I don’t believe that he never heard the “white” comments from his pastor.
What I cannot understand is, after hearing that, how he could say nothing to defend his white mother and white grandparents! (who btw sent him to private school)

Imagine a person who had a white and black parent going to a racist southern church. Perhaps one that blamed blacks for everything.

Could you just sit there and nod your head?

ArmyAunt on March 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Do I understand correctly that Rev. Wright is not one of the “forces of division?”

NeighborhoodCatLady on March 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Obama talks about “walking down the path together.” How Bobby Kennedy said we had a choice. To remain divided or to unite. Unfortunately for Barak Obama it’s people like his former pastor that feed the hate. That teach the next generation and the next how to be racist. He gives reasons from the pulpit why you should be racist!

Obama is trying to sweep it under the rug and move on. Sorry dude. The left might listen to you, but many in your own party, and independents, are gonna look at your nearly 20 year association with Wright, and your “unite the country ” rhetoric will not hold water.

Can Hillary get the nomination? Is there time? Is this the excuse for the Super Delegates to give it to her without it looking like she stole the nomination???

Ordinary1 on March 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Obama for the President of the US of KKK A!

Chuck Schick on March 15, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Notice another thing, his swagger is back.

He looked like a whipped puppy on Fox last night.
Today, back amongst his worshippers, he is back on track.

ArmyAunt on March 15, 2008 at 5:35 PM

I give this a week before it’s gone from the discussion. Not going to harm him. Libs would vote for Attila the Hun if he claimed to be for the little people. I do not understand why everyone is so convinced that Wright will be O’Bomba’s downfall.

tickleddragon on March 15, 2008 at 5:38 PM

He specifically mentions Wright and his comments.

Yes, but Wright’s comments didn’t happen in the last several weeks. They’re all old.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Part of it’s because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who’ve been all too eager to exploit what divides us.

Jenny; you know I’d never hurt you. If it weren’t for Johnson and this god-dammed war.

lorien1973 on March 15, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Obama STFU!

Go HOME!

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 5:40 PM

He’s about done talking about it as well, at least defensively. The MSM isn’t going to pursue this much longer. It’s moving from damage control to an effort to capitalize on it.

There will be no accurate context reported. One side of this story will be presented from now on…the one of the Right picking on an African American church and Obama’s religious beliefs. If they do this right, it should play great to the base and be forgotten by the time the general election rolls around.

Asher on March 15, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Go Home to Illinois that is.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 5:42 PM

We haven’t even gotten to Raila Odinga yet.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Okay, I’ll bite. What have you heard besides that this guy claims to be Obama’s uncle?

bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 5:42 PM

he simply “will not allow us to lose this moment.”

That moment came, and went, without much incident.

We’ve got a war, an economy, and other major challenges. This is all fabricated fluff. The country moved on a long time ago and this is just for his poodles.

And with this, I’m officially Obama’d out.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

+1 – sums it up to perfection.

p.s. If I have to listen to that voice, or Hillary’s for even one more year, I’ll need serious therapy, for this alone.

Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 5:46 PM

This arrogant sociopath prick must go down. Obama is much worse than Clinton IMO.

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:46 PM

BTW, not a physical threat…

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Hopefully a few superdelegates will either come off the fence, or even cross over the fence, because of this. That should keep it in the news for a while.

BuzzCrutcher on March 15, 2008 at 5:47 PM

If McCain wins, luke-warm, but if he doesn’t, I’ll warm up to the Glacier, before I can handle this emptiness.

MLK would be very disappointed. This is not what he had in mind.

Note to profitsbeard – please compose a rendition of what Michelle Obama would say to her husband, on the topic of the ‘crazy uncle’, and how it’s unraveling.

Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

I wouldn’t blame you AP if you never want to talk about his ever again :) It’s been overdone.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Obama is trying to make lemons into lemonade.

Racial strike an issue in the campaign? Remember Obama’s big strength: he’s a racial healer! Elect Senator Obama to the presidency, and he will heal the racial divisions caused by Minister Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright.

But do you think the voters will buy it?

daryl_herbert on March 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Obama—an American Tragedy

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Well it figures that he keeps his cool while amongst his minions, yet last night he couldn’t even talk straight.

He’s a phony.

j0 on March 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM

MLK would be very disappointed. This is not what he had in mind.
.
Entelechy on March 15, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Ya think so? LMAO!

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 5:53 PM

I can only hope that the “Obamacans” are feeling really stupid now. Probably not, because they are still stupid.

Aristotle on March 15, 2008 at 5:55 PM

I thought the Donks had all this racism/sexism/ageism/yadayadaism all smoothed out. The party of humankind and perfection and the new age. The irony here is as thick as a cesspool.

JonRoss on March 15, 2008 at 5:55 PM

I can only hope that the “Obamacans” are feeling really stupid now. Probably not, because they are still stupid.

Aristotle on March 15, 2008 at 5:55 PM

no such thing, if the word is referring to any republican voting for him.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Okay, I’ll bite. What have you heard besides that this guy claims to be Obama’s uncle?
bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Fact: Obama went to kenya and campaigned for him.

Remember this is the guy who has a signed pact with the kenyan muslims(10% of kenya’s population)to institute sharia law in 90% Christian kenya!

hussein o’s cousin Raila has proven ties to al qaeda terrorists and everyone is wondering “what is the significance of the obama muslim costume picture released by the hildebeasts campaign”…The costume in question was not a kenyan traditional costume…it is a muslim costume worn by jihadist muslims in neighboring 100% muslim somalia.

There’s a lot more to come…Hussein is finished

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I can only hope that the “Obamacans” are feeling really stupid now. Probably not, because they are still stupid.

http://www.republicansforobama.org/?q=node/634

Evade, Evade, Evade the truth…

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I’m talking about the obamacans there.

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I’m with the rest of you, in that, within a week this will all be forgiven/forgotten. Allah, please don’t give up on this story. So far, this has been the only hole in the dyke that has been able to knock his messiahship off his game – if only for a day. The thought of this man and his racist wife occupying the White House is not only possible, but if he can pass this off as just a little misunderstanding it’s a dead certainty he’ll win the election.

Allah, how ’bout we give you the day off tomorrow and you’ll be back all fresh and rested and ready to lead the charge Monday? :)

24K lady on March 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM

he is an extremist, the MOST EXTREME Left-Wing Senator in the senate, even more extreme then Ted Kennedy.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Allah, please don’t give up on this story.

Why pursue this story anymore?
Obama has said what he has needed to say. Let’s move on.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Evade, Evade, Evade the truth…

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 5:58 PM

yea, setup by who? probably liberals.. lol

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Why would ANY Republican vote for the MOST Extreme liberal in the Senate?(Barack Obama)

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:04 PM

They should just vote for Ted Kennedy if they want to vote for a liberal. LOL

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:05 PM

If anything, cantankerous old Uncle Jeremiah’s just being exploited for their nefarious purposes.

That spiel may very well work on democrat party primary voters, but it’s a huge loser in general election.

SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 6:06 PM

This fool is spinning like a top. His problem is that people see through the hipocrisy. He needed a politically influential church and was willing to look the other way. Now that he has been found out… he condemns it, and that is what is going to sink him. The smell test? He can’t pass it. I went there for 20 years and closely allied himself to the man, and yet had no inkling as to his pastors views. Sounds like he and Ron Paul have something in common, politically convenient ignorance.

Here’s how you gage the real damage. How many more threats will Jesse and Al make? It better be Barack or else! If that rhetoric goes out the window Hillary is the nominee.

Theworldisnotenough on March 15, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal’s 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Fact: Obama went to kenya and campaigned for him.

Remember this is the guy who has a signed pact with the kenyan muslims(10% of kenya’s population)to institute sharia law in 90% Christian kenya!

hussein o’s cousin Raila has proven ties to al qaeda terrorists and everyone is wondering “what is the significance of the obama muslim costume picture released by the hildebeasts campaign”…The costume in question was not a kenyan traditional costume…it is a muslim costume worn by jihadist muslims in neighboring 100% muslim somalia.

There’s a lot more to come…Hussein is finished

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 5:57 PM

I agree with you that he is finished. But if this is true…oh my! Until the shrew (Hillary) brings it up, I’ll consign it to the conspiratorial right wing rantings bin.

If you could provide linkys I would appreciate it very much.

bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 6:09 PM

1st most liberal, 10th and 16th out of 100!

He is an Extremist by ANY measure, that has shown that he cannot compromise.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:10 PM

Shawn Hannity and Rush are going to screw around and get the Cliton crime machine elected again.

He’s hand picked by Herself to give her a run for the money so she can be the come back kid and great uniter.

Then she/they go on to debate McBrain. He won’t even mention middle names as it might offend. He also was a setup in the moved up open primary process. Easiest of all the Republicans to beat.

Hold your ammo till bama’s the nominee, she will not be his 2nd fiddle he might agree to be hers.

dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM

ShawnSean Hannity and Rush are going to screw around and get the Cliton crime machine elected again.

He’s hand picked by Herself to give her a run for the money so she can be the come back kid and great uniter.

Then she/they go on to debate McBrain. He won’t even mention middle names as it might offend. He also was a setup in the moved up open primary process. Easiest of all the Republicans to beat.

Hold your ammo till bama’s the nominee, she will not be his 2nd fiddle he might agree to be hers.

dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Hold your ammo till bama’s the nominee
dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM

I would almost agree with you but Hussein is such a dangerous candidate that having him in a 50/50 odds race so close to the presidency is too dangerous to risk.

We have plenty of ammo for the Hildebeast we need to start using it also.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Why pursue this story anymore?
Obama has said what he has needed to say. Let’s move on.

Because he’s a lying(I’ve never heard those things before) hypocrite(Oh Noes, the dark forces of division are coming after us).

This story needs to lose some of it’s heat and just simmer a bit but it is not going to go away.

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Hold your ammo till bama’s the nominee, she will not be his 2nd fiddle he might agree to be hers.

I’d rather fight the devil I know rather the devil I don’t know.

SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 6:17 PM

terryonline@6:01PM – dropping the story and “hoping” the MSM continues to vett Obama will never happen. That’s why we’re within months of the democrat convention and no one really knows enough about the guy to make an informed decision. He’s glossy, glib, delivering a message so many want to hear, especially young disallusioned young people and those that have lost jobs. Unless another shoe drops, he will end up with the nomination. Hillary is never going to get another chance like this one, and it’s politically incorrect for her to use it. The irony.

24K lady on March 15, 2008 at 6:18 PM

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Obama’s negatives should start to skyrocket, as peoples beebers start to ping.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 6:18 PM

dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:12 PM

You surely don’t read the Nutosphere. Al Burack won’t ever agree to be her Veep if she wins by superdelegates, the hatred has long passed the point of no return. If she wins the nomination, a HUGE black riot will ensue, a riot that will set the Democratic party 100 years back.

Any decent person should root for Hillary.

Aristotle on March 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM

“[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”

That he doesn’t see “Rev” Wright as a force of division says it all.

Hey, John Edwards, you wanna hand those 36 delegates over to Hillary yet?

SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM

I’m saying that, given how old the sermons are, his emphasis on “the last several weeks” means Wright’s obviously not one of the dark “forces” he suspects of conspiring against the coming of Hope and Change.

Well, he said he thought about RFK’s words a lot, especially in the past several weeks. Wright’s sermons were in the news the past couple weeks. He also said all sides are to blame. So, I think it’s very plausible that he’s referring to Wright’s comments as well, especially since he mentions them as being comments he does not condone.

But, in Obama’s defense, his campaign isn’t being the aggressor in pushing divisive issues or rhetoric. The context is he’s speaking about how the campaign has evolved, or devolved into a divisive affair. The Obama campaign really isn’t pushing those kind of issues or rhetoric. More reacting to them.

Tom_Shipley on March 15, 2008 at 6:23 PM

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 6:11 PM

That link sent me to a Kenyan government document that basically set up Sharia law in Kenya. You’ve got one part of this theory covered, now you need to connect Obama to him. You said Obama campaigned for him, is there any press clipping or anything of the sort that supports this assertion?

bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 6:24 PM

The Obama campaign really isn’t pushing those kind of issues or rhetoric. More reacting to them.

Now we know why, no?

SouthernGent on March 15, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Even if he weathers the Wright storm, what about wifey?

He’s going to censor-distance himself from-her?

“If you are offended by her statements … .”

I don’t think so.

davidk on March 15, 2008 at 6:26 PM

He’s glossy, glib, delivering a message so many want to hear, especially young disillusioned young people and those that have lost jobs. Unless another shoe drops, he will end up with the nomination. Hillary is never going to get another chance like this one, and it’s politically incorrect for her to use it. The irony.

I haven’t been able to listen to my talk radio or watch cable news the past few days without listening to this story. I think the story is out. So lets stop pounding the issue and let the PUBLIC make what they want out of it. If conservatives continue to harshly go after this issue it might came back and haunt us at a later date. What goes around comes around.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Can Hillary get the nomination? Is there time? Is this the excuse for the Super Delegates to give it to her without it looking like she stole the nomination???

Ordinary1 on March 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM

I think so, O1. I think this is the beginning of the end for Obama. Hillary’s shills will not let the people forget what we’ve heard. Nor should we.

As I said in my speech at the convention in 2004, there is no Black America, or White America, or Asian America, or Latino America.

No, just Reverend Wright’s America and the rest of America.

But what I continue to believe in is that this country wants to move beyond these kinds of divisions.

Apparently “this country” doesn’t want to move far enough to find a different church.

…when people say things like my former pastor said, you know, you have to speak out forcefully against them.

Although there’s no record Obama ever has. And don’t tell me he didn’t know – for twenty whole years – that his pastor and spiritual guide was spouting this kind of garbage.

I will not allow us to lose this moment

It’s gone already. This was Obama’s watershed moment and I think the primary is now Hillary’s to lose.

Though I disagreed vehemently with his ideas, I used to have respect for Obama. That respect has evaporated. 20 years of this? Subjecting his children to this? No. And I’m sure I’m not alone.

Rosmerta on March 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Here you go:

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Barack.Obama.Kenya.2.331658.html

President of kenya calls Hussein Obama a stooge for Raila Odinga

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Obama Compares Wright to Martin Luther King

Is Tammy right with her interpretation?

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM

“[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”

Agreed. Only now we need to add the name of ‘wright’ to the list of jackson, farrakhan, and sharpton et al.

Let’s face it. There’s a serious malignancy of disfunction in the black culture when this continuous stream of vile, racist trutherism passes for Gospel and/or political dialogue.

And with this, I’m officially afro-centricked out.

locomotivebreath1901 on March 15, 2008 at 6:30 PM

But as CBS 2 Political Editor Mike Flannery reports, the government fired back, saying Obama is a stooge for an opposing political party.

A surprise raid that seized and burned copies of Kenya’s oldest newspaper, The Standard, still prompts journalists there to call last March 2 the darkest day in the more than 100 years they’ve been publishing.

It was because of that raid that Sen. Barack Obama went to the Standard’s offices. He declared that democracy can’t work without freedom of the press and freedom of information.

“It is not just a loss for the Standard. It’s a loss for the people of Kenya. So my hope is that this is one episode that won’t be repeated,” Obama said.

The MSM would ignore the issues of the conflict and paint Osamabma as a good guy.

davidk on March 15, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Here you go:

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Barack.Obama.Kenya.2.331658.html

President of kenya calls Hussein Obama a stooge for Raila Odinga

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, and there’s a picture of Obama with Odinga. Well, if there’s something to this, I’m sure we’ll be hearing more about it soon.

bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM

And with this, I’m officially Obama’d out.

Allahpundit on March 15, 2008 at 5:18 PM

Your steadfastness thus far alone has been Herculean.

Weight of Glory on March 15, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Yeah, and there’s a picture of Obama with Odinga. Well, if there’s something to this, I’m sure we’ll be hearing more about it soon.
bert169 on March 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM

You’re right…we can always trust the heroic mainstream media to give us the whole and unbiased truth every time.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 6:37 PM

I agree with you that he is finished. But if this is true…oh my! Until the shrew (Hillary) brings it up, I’ll consign it to the conspiratorial right wing rantings bin.

If you could provide linkys I would appreciate it very much.

http://www.nysun.com/article/69273?page_no=1

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/08/wkenya308.xml

Even more sinister has been Mr. Odinga’s electoral pact with the National Muslim Leaders’ Forum — a hardline Islamist organization that represents Kenya’s Muslim minority. According to this document, dated August 29, 2007, Mr. Odinga promised the Muslim leaders that, if elected, he would establish Sharia courts, not only in the northern and coastal regions where Kenyan Muslims are concentrated, but throughout the country.

He also promised to impose Muslim dress codes on women, ban alcohol and pork, indoctrinate children, ban Christian preaching, and dismiss the Commissioner of Police “who has allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists.”

In short, Mr. Odinga in effect offered to Islamize Kenya in return for Muslim votes, despite the fact that Muslims make up only 10% of the population, compared to the 80% who are Christian. Mr. Odinga himself is nominally an Anglican, yet he signed a document that refers to Islam throughout as “the one true religion” and denigrates Christians as “worshippers of the cross.”

Conservative_SAHM on March 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Hillary would be awful but you know what you get- a liberal but one without convictions other than getting a 2nd term.
Obama has officially entered “I may be a dangerous man and I sure as hell know I will have dangerous people in my ear”.
Rev.Wright and the nodding senator have ripped the curtain away- we should count ourselves lucky as hell.

jjshaka on March 15, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Let’s see:
1) “Macaca.”
2) “The United States of KKK America” “Inventened the HIV virus to commit genocide” “Chickens coming home to roost (9-11-01)” “God damn America.”

Which should end a political career?

(Yeah yeah, Big O didn’t say #2 and Allen did say #1, but if a conservative had said David Duke was his spiritual leader, do you think that would be allowed to get a pass?)

VolMagic on March 15, 2008 at 6:41 PM

So it’s all a conspiracy theory now? Blech

GogglesPisano on March 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM

Al Burack won’t ever agree to be her Veep if she wins by superdelegates, the hatred has long passed the point of no return. If she wins the nomination, a HUGE black riot will ensue, a riot that will set the Democratic party 100 years back.

Aristotle on March 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM

I hope your right, but I can envision a damaged Obonga doing so poorly in the primarys left and the do overs in Florida and Michigan that would surely follow that Hillary wins in both delegate counts and Obama joins her as a uniter rather than a divider. Again I pray your right and I am only being Paranoid. The Cliton long knives have come out trying for 100% of the white vote, knowing the blacks will follow him wherever, even if she is leading him by a chain.

dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:44 PM

I’m re-posting this comment from your previous posting, AP, because I challenge your ingenuous belief that the OBamassiah has suddenly found Wright to be divisive, based on his unedifying cable news renunciations:

“Folks, those sermons are openly on public sale because THAT IS the (fire)brand of Christianity that Obama’s Trinity Church passionately espouses through the spittle-spewing racist rhetoric of his ersatz dotty old uncle, the Right Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

It’s called “Liberation Theology”, given an American Black twist by the likes of Wright (who, believe it or not, is highly regarded within the mainstream Christian theological studies community as one of its foremost proponents) as it mutated from its genesis amongst the left-wing radical Catholic priests in Latin America who agitated for an emphasis of social consciousness and service (specifically with regard to the great masses of impoverished, oppressed and largely-native communicants in that region) over the religious doctrine and ritualistic dogma practiced by the ruling mestizo-azie (Spanish mixed-bloods) class’ Church.

This is NOT an underground movement of sub rosa radical/racist theology, my friends; this IS what this Church preaches, is known for, and what its adherents go there for!

This is a fervently espoused and openly-declared doctrinal mongrel of Christianity that IS MEANT to be spread throughout the African-American community. Hence the meant-for-proliferation sale of Wright’s sermons and writings and liberation theology literature. (Very much in the same vein anti-American Jihadi literature and CD-ed radical Imam-ist sermons are openly distributed and/or sold in the Saudi-funded Wahhabi mosques spreading throughout America.) Allegedly to spur African Americans to a proud mind-set of SELF-HELP versus, y’know, trustin’ and leanin’ on THE (WHITE) MAN (who are embodied in the likes of Billary).

Given that Obama’s self-admitted life-long internal imperative was a quest for the cohering of his black identity, stoked along consistently Socialist lines, starting with his stereotypically self-hating progressive cultural anthropologist white mother (who in a spat with her Indonesian husband Soetero about attending a cocktail party comprised mostly of overseas white American corporate employees, screeched, “They are NOT my people!”), through his young boyhood/adulthood mentoring by an avowed Communist philosophical partisan (now THAT’s another vein of research that should be brought to light), and his close admiration/association with the likes of the radical ‘Sixties bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (unrepentant to this day, and in fact, in Ayers’ case, only regretting that they had not bombed more) and the Rev. Farrakhan, one should not be simply be skeptical of the verity of Obama’s non-awareness of the churchly bile ….. one should be wondering, without fear of seeming paranoid, whether we have another Henry Wallace stepping up, but this time to the brass ring position.

Mojamaiko on March 15, 2008 at 6:32 PM”

Mojamaiko on March 15, 2008 at 6:44 PM

In August 2006, Mr. Obama visited Kenya and spoke in support of Mr. Odinga’s candidacy at rallies in Nairobi. The Web site Atlas Shrugs has even posted a photograph of the two men side by side. More recently, Mr. Odinga says that Mr. Obama interrupted his campaigning in New Hampshire to have a telephone conversation with his African cousin about the constitutional crisis in Kenya.

What should Americans make of Mr. Obama’s Kenyan connection? If he has been putting tribal or family considerations above America’s national interest by supporting Mr. Odinga’s anti-Western candidacy, it raises serious questions about his judgement.

At the time of his visit in 2006, President Kibaki’s spokesman complained that Mr. Obama was behaving like a “stooge” of Mr. Odinga — which was at best undignified for a visiting American senator, and at worst unwarranted interference in the internal politics of another country.

Even more serious are the doubts raised by Mr. Obama’s attitude toward Islam, which has so far received much less scrutiny than might be expected in a post-September 11 presidential election.

If Mr. Obama did not know about Mr. Odinga’s electoral deal with the Kenyan Islamists when he offered his support, then he should have known. If he did know, then he is guilty of lending the prestige of his office to America’s enemies in the global war on terror. We need to know exactly what Mr. Obama knew about Mr. Odinga, and precisely when he knew it.

http://www.nysun.com/article/69273?page_no=1

Conservative_SAHM on March 15, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Is Tammy right with her interpretation?

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Well, I would say he’s comparing himself to RFK as a healer of discord. It’s really ironic, because to compare himself to RFK, means that he’s comparing MLK to someone. It’s so muddled it’s hard to know his point. Now is Obama is saying Wright’s words are a sign of division as MLK’s assassination was a sign of division? If so, then Wright becomes the antithesis of MLK.

One thing for sure, Obama wins no points for clear thinking.

I would also say that on of the “[T]he forces of division” Obama needs to address personally are the words of his wife.

INC on March 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM

“[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”

There’s the demarcation line in the sand. He’s dealt with it and now we’re supposed to move on. Continuing to opine or ask questions means one is failing to move on and one’s motivations are clearly suspect.

So goes the logic in the spin cycle.

moxie_neanderthal on March 15, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Personally every time I hear his talk about “[T]he forces of division” I’m going to be seeing the face of Wright.

INC on March 15, 2008 at 6:48 PM

I’m re-posting this comment from your previous posting, AP, because I challenge your ingenuous belief that the OBamassiah has suddenly found Wright to be divisive, based on his unedifying cable news renunciations:

Geez. You have to take people at their word. Allahpundit, is not a psychoanalyst to tell people Obama is clearly lying. Lets not analyze this too much.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM

Jake Tapper found this Rolling Stone story from a year ago and asks, So … what did Obama know then and what did he just all of a sudden learn?

Buy Danish on March 15, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Got him HEre is obama thinking Reverend Wright Personally in a chat about a “quiet Riot” Amoung Blacks after Katrina.

Go to about 1:35 in the video

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/Obama.Blacks.Quiet.2.337535.html

William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I can’t get around – never can get around, a presidential candidate that would blame America for 9/11. Screw him. Hell, even defense attys know that where there’s smoke there is fire. All his bizarre contacts with islam, his druggy days, his friendship with the weatherman, his bitchy wife, this creepy church — this is not presidential material. He’s truly the Hate America Presidential Candidate.

Blake on March 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM

The remaining Primaries are going to require extra popcorn. You would think that after JF’ngK, the Democrats would have learned their lesson.

And they call the Republicans the stupid party. Geeze.

SoldiersMom on March 15, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Opps make it 1:00 minute in

William Amos on March 15, 2008 at 6:55 PM

You, some reading these comments, I just have to laugh. One one hand, Obama er… I mean “Hussein” is either an Islamic sympathizer or “useful idiot” and on the other, he’s part of a radical, left-wing racist church.

I think you all need to huddle up and decide which angle you want to play. If you’re smart, you’ll choose neither.

Tom_Shipley on March 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Mojamaiko,

I’d say liberation theology is within mainstream liberal theology.

INC on March 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Team McCain needs to take this opportunity to media whore. Rev Wright isn’t going away, but people can get tired of the story when it’s just shock and association thus far.

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:58 PM

You, some reading these comments, I just have to laugh. One one hand, Obama er… I mean “Hussein” is either an Islamic sympathizer or “useful idiot” and on the other, he’s part of a radical, left-wing racist church.

I think you all need to huddle up and decide which angle you want to play. If you’re smart, you’ll choose neither.

Way to evade douchebag. Bravo

ninjapirate on March 15, 2008 at 6:59 PM

I hope your right, but I can envision a damaged Obonga doing so poorly in the primarys left and the do overs in Florida and Michigan that would surely follow that Hillary wins in both delegate counts and Obama joins her as a uniter rather than a divider. Again I pray your right and I am only being Paranoid. The Cliton long knives have come out trying for 100% of the white vote, knowing the blacks will follow him wherever, even if she is leading him by a chain.

dhunter on March 15, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Math wise, it’s still pretty impossible she wins without superdelegates. Check the calculator.

http://www.slate.com/features/delegatecounter/

Aristotle on March 15, 2008 at 7:00 PM

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