Obama in Indiana: “[T]he forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again”

posted at 5:16 pm on March 15, 2008 by Allahpundit

A reference to Wright? Doubtful — the ugly-head-raising he has in mind has been happening “over the last several weeks,” a timeline which would seem to point away from kindly Rev. Jeremiah and towards … who? Hillary? The GOP? Or the great mysterious They that’s forever trying to engineer race-hate, lately through the appalling practice of criticizing Barack Obama for shrugging off his spiritual guru’s rhetorical poison for 20 years? By caring that he’s bosom buddies with a hate merchant, you’re letting Them win — and he simply “will not allow us to lose this moment.” So here’s six minutes on MLK, RFK, and why it’s so important not to let the project of American unity be sidetracked by pausing to wonder how seriously he takes that project when he’s not busy running for president. The transcript’s here if you can’t spare the time. Consider it a refinement on Kaus’s post from this morning: Not so much “if it offends you, I condemn it!” as “if it offends you, you’re standing in the way of progress!”

Two lines to watch out for: His reminder that there is no “white America,” a point on which he once seemed to take a different view if Newsmax is to be believed, and the importance of speaking out forcefully “when people say things like my former pastor said.” By “when,” I can only assume he means, “within 20 years, assuming it’s politically convenient to do so.”

Update: As much as some of the left might wish it were so, it’s not just the wingnuts who find this problematic.

Update: I’m not accusing him of not finding Wright divisive; clearly he does or else he wouldn’t have been all over cable last night denouncing the sermons. I’m saying that, given how old the sermons are, his emphasis on “the last several weeks” means Wright’s obviously not one of the dark “forces” he suspects of conspiring against the coming of Hope and Change. He’s referring to Ferraro (and, by proxy, Hillary) and to the media, per what he says here about the supposed cherry-picking of Wright’s nuttier comments and the clips being shown on television. If anything, cantankerous old Uncle Jeremiah’s just being exploited for their nefarious purposes.

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I see. I’ve always thought that congress consisted of both The House and Senate. If that’s true then the Democrats did not control congress when McCain Feingold was signed into law. They only had a slight advantage in the Senate with the House in Republican hands by a larger margin.

Oldnuke on March 15, 2008 at 10:47 PM

106th (1999-2001)

# Reps. 435

Republicans 223
Democrats 211
Independents 1
——————–

107th(2001-2003)
# Reps. 435

Republicans 221
Democrats 212
Independents 2

——————-

108th(2003-2005)

# Reps. 435

Republicans 229
Democrats 204
Independents 1
Vacancies 1
—————-

109th(2005-2007)

# of Reps. 435
Republicans 232
Democrats 202
Independents 1

————-

110th(2007-2009)

# of Reps.435

233 Democrats
202 Republicans
0 Independents

Party Divisions of the House of Representatives (1789 to Present)*

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Is it just me or is that a less-crisp “yes we can?”

Sean68 on March 15, 2008 at 11:15 PM

Party Division in the Senate, 1789-Present

there is the breakdown of the senate, if you are interested.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:16 PM

By the way, note it’s the stupid white broads who stand up and clap first.

Sean68 on March 15, 2008 at 11:17 PM

In addition:

“tragic history=don’t blame blacks for being angry and hateful”

Sean68 on March 15, 2008 at 11:18 PM

By the way, note it’s the stupid white broads who stand up and clap first.

Sean68 on March 15, 2008 at 11:17 PM

Here in L.A. all the wacky, young, liberal, white girls have Obonga bumper stickers.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM

George W. Bush
Assumed office
January 20, 2001
—————————————-
107th Congress (2001-2003)

Majority Party (Jan 3-20, 2001): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

________

Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (50 seats)

Other Parties: 0

Total Seats: 100

______

Majority Party (June 6, 2001-November 12, 2002 –): Democrat (50 seats)

Minority Party: Republican (49 seats)

Other Parties: 1

Total Seats: 100

_____

Majority Party (November 12, 2002 – January 3, 2003): Republican (50 seats)

Minority Party: Democrat (48 seats)

Other Parties: 2

Total Seats: 100

Note: From January 3 to January 20, 2001, with the Senate divided evenly between the two parties, the Democrats held the majority due to the deciding vote of outgoing Democratic Vice President Al Gore. Senator Thomas A. Daschle served as majority leader at that time. Beginning on January 20, 2001, Republican Vice President Richard Cheney held the deciding vote, giving the majority to the Republicans. Senator Trent Lott resumed his position as majority leader on that date. On May 24, 2001, Senator James Jeffords of Vermont announced his switch from Republican to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001. Jeffords announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage, changing control of the Senate from the Republicans back to the Democrats. Senator Thomas A. Daschle again became majority leader on June 6, 2001. Senator Paul D. Wellstone (D-MN) died on October 25, 2002, and Independent Dean Barkley was appointed to fill the vacancy. The November 5, 2002 election brought to office elected Senator James Talent (R-MO), replacing appointed Senator Jean Carnahan (D-MO), shifting balance once again to the Republicans — but no reorganization was completed at that time since the Senate was out of session.

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Bush signed the bill on 27 March 2002. Senate was controlled by Democrats.

By your numbers,
107th(2001-2003)

# Reps. 435

Republicans 221
Democrats 212
Independents 2

So apparently the House was controlled by Republicans with a somewhat larger margin meaning that congress was not controlled by Democrats only the Senate. Is that correct?

Oldnuke on March 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM

I just heard the killer question for Obama. It comes from a black journalist from the WSJ on Fox:


“Senator, why would you attend a church where your own mother would not feel welcomed?”

I want to hear him answer that one.

TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Obama people. Obama. Let’s stay focused…

TheBigOldDog on March 15, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Here in L.A. all the wacky, young, liberal, white girls have Obonga bumper stickers.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM

I bet they have them really big, and take as many pictures next to them as possible so that they can show their children, that they were part of the B.O movement to spread the stench of racism across the country.(Look hunnie, mommie was such a good liberal she isn’t a racist at all!, I was in the Obama rallies)

Sort of like people “acting” like they were in MLK marches or something..
(He’s just a Politician people, no accomplishments and should not even be considered at a time of war)

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:30 PM

So apparently the House was controlled by Republicans with a somewhat larger margin meaning that congress was not controlled by Democrats only the Senate. Is that correct?

Oldnuke on March 15, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Yep, just the senate, what counts. :)

Chakra Hammer on March 15, 2008 at 11:31 PM

Anybody notice a pattern here?

Take Harold Ford, Jr. He be like Barry’s kid brother. Intelligent. Attractive. Well-educated. Articulate. (Okay, so he wasn’t on Law Review. In fact, he didn’t even pass the bar. But I think the comparison is still valid.)

His father was a wild-eyed, screaming liberal who played the race card at every opportunity. Senior survived, despite the best efforts of the FBI. And now Junior is entrenched.

But Junior isn’t like Daddy. He’s a smooth talker who actually convinces moderates that he’s one of them.

This is the new threat: second-generation rascists. The ones who mask it well.

Obama, Harold, Jr. — scary.

grits on March 15, 2008 at 11:38 PM

With Buppies like Barack and Michelle, affirmative action’s “chickens are coming home to roost”, to indirectly quote Rev. Wright right after 9/11, and Stokely Carmichael right after JFK’s assassination in ’63.

Wright is too stupid to even make up his own controversial statements, IMHO.

But he’s not running for President of ALL 300 million Americans, and Obama is.

TexasJew on March 15, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Plain and simple, Obama is lying in regards to what he knew about Rev. Wright and his sermons of bigotry and hate. BTW, I am still trying to figure out how white America developed AIDS in the early ’80s considering how the average IQ had fallen at least 10 points at this time due to listening to disco in the late ’70s.

dawgyear on March 16, 2008 at 12:13 AM

dawgyear on March 16, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Well, when AIDS first came out they didn’t even know what it was!

Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID)

Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) (sometimes informally called the gay plague or GRIDS, standing for Gay-related immune deficiency syndrome) was the original name for AIDS, a name proposed after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia among gay males in California and New York City. During the early history of AIDS, an ad hoc organization called Gay Men’s Health Crisis was founded to combat what was then thought to be a homosexual-only disease perhaps produced by high levels of promiscuity, intravenous drug use, and usage of poppers. Soon after, clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia were also reported among Haitians recently entering the United States and men with haemophilia, among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, among children born to possibly infected mothers, and among blood transfusion recipients with no obvious risk factors. The term AIDS (for acquired immune deficiency syndrome) was proposed in 1982 by Sasu Siegelbaum, among other researchers, concerned with the accuracy of the disease’s name. In this new name, scientists were supported by political figures who realized that the term “gay-related” did not accurately describe the demographic that the disease affected. The book “Living With GRID: A Personal Journey” by Ryan Barker was the most telling story of a young man’s personal story of living with this disease. In April 23, 1984, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary announced at a press conference that an American scientist, Dr. Robert Gallo, had discovered the probable cause of AIDS: the retrovirus subsequently named human immunodeficiency virus or HIV in 1986. The virus had previously been discovered by researchers at the Pasteur Institute in France, who called it lymphadenopathy-associated virus. It was given the acronym LAV and was subsequently renamed HIV.

Chakra Hammer on March 16, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Rev. Barry, why is it that you will not stand during the pledge, and why will you not wear a flag pin on your lapel?

Care to answer this?

benrand on March 16, 2008 at 3:07 AM

What’s with the lapel pin? It sure does not look like a US Flag. I wonder what type of pin it is? Could it be the Family crest of the Rev. (I hate my country with a passion) Wright’s. Oh look I am wearing a lapel pin now. You can all forget about me belonging to the Rev. Wright’s church and leasoning to his vile I mean gratifying & good-natured sermons. My wife & I just love the man, I mean he speaks to us with such truth and passion. Oh did I say that I meant to say “Look over here now”. The great Os has spoken. /sarc off.

USMCDevilDog on March 16, 2008 at 6:18 AM

if Newsmax is to be believed

That’s a big if. Reagan’s admonition to trust but verify is as applicable to Newsmax than any — and perhaps more.

rightwingprof on March 16, 2008 at 7:14 AM

It sounds like you are out for blood.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 9:29 PM

Words have meaning. Complete political destruction does not mean “out for blood.” That would be physical destruction. But words don’t have meaning for Obama or his followers like you. It’s all about what you feel about what is being said.

I’ve read all your comments in this thread and find them ludicrous. You like him and have fallen for his empty, silly and dangerous rhetoric. You cannot defend him with facts, but you suggest that he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

TerryAnn– let me clue you in on something. White people in American may have assumed a permanent bent over position for the past 40 years or so, and invited every minority group to step all over them in an attempt to be nice, but you would be surprised how quickly they will stand up again when someone threatens their existence. I don’t think you hear the Rev. WRight doing that, or his followers. Others do. Obama is tragic and vile. He will never be president. He will never have a political career. Continue with your silly liberal fantasies of how wonderful and uniting he is.

JiangxiDad on March 16, 2008 at 8:20 AM

That speech nearly put me to sleep but then I remembered Obama is our only hope for racial healing and then I stood up almost as fast as the non-whities behind him did when he mentioned moving beyond the racist past.

aikidoka on March 16, 2008 at 8:35 AM

You, some reading these comments, I just have to laugh. One one hand, Obama er… I mean “Hussein” is either an Islamic sympathizer or “useful idiot” and on the other, he’s part of a radical, left-wing racist church.

I think you all need to huddle up and decide which angle you want to play. If you’re smart, you’ll choose neither.

Tom_Shipley on March 15, 2008 at 6:57 PM”

Wrap your head around this, Tom. Islamic sympathizers and the readical, left-wingers, whether affiliated with a racist church or not, have been allying themselves together for some time. Is this what Obama means by being a “uniter”?

How many on the left continue to mindlessly repeat the hollow talking point that objections to Islamic hegemoncy is an attack on “brown people,” as if Islam is a race? How many on the left see that healing the purported divisions among partisans of either conservative economic points of view or liberal redistribution of wealth ideology will come about by taking away from the producers and giving away to the ever-increasing appetites of the passive takers in society?

Obama fails as a candidate for the American ideals of liberty and self-reliance. His appeal is to those who embrace insatiable grievance, enslavement to the nanny state, and insistence on the superiority of race/select religions over the content of character. Obama has a history of cultivating relationships and political allies who have no admirable character nor redeeming moral or legal credentials. The company he has kept in order to define himself and build a political resume are good neither for America nor for world peace and prosperity.

onlineanalyst on March 16, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Two things strike me.

First, Obama did not repudiate his pastor’s remarks until they came out into the open, and would not ever repudiate them if they did not come out.

Second, I am indebted to Rev. Wright for his, published, rants.

OldEnglish on March 16, 2008 at 9:55 AM

I’ve read all your comments in this thread and find them ludicrous. You like him and have fallen for his empty, silly and dangerous rhetoric.

I have not fallen for him and his rhetoric. I didn’t vote for him in the primary and if he is the Democratic nominee, I won’t vote him in the general either.

Words have meaning.

If words have meaning then why don’t you seem to believe him he says he doesn’t agree with the hateful words of his pastor. Those words apparently don’t seem to count with you.

terryannonline on March 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Obama’s “repudiations” and “rejections” and “denouncements” and “condemnations” and “disagreements” with Rev. Wright don’t cut it, for me…Not by a long shot.

I want to hear contradictions.

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…Do you believe President Truman based his decision to bomb Nagasaki and Hiroshima on sound military, and foreign policy judgement?

Mr. Obama?…Can you explain how the HIV infection was transmitted to the American populace?

Mr. Obama?…Is Islamoterrorism a threat to the United States?

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…Do you lay the blame for 9/11 on America?

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…Does God Bless America?

franksalterego on March 16, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I think God was telling us something by directing a deadly tornado towards the CNN headquarters.

MSGTAS on March 16, 2008 at 10:32 AM

Oh, I forgot…

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…Do you believe America is an Imperialist Nation?

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…Do you believe America is a Racist Nation, founded by racists?

franksalterego on March 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM

McCain has been a member of a Phoenix church for the last fifteen years which is affiliated with the Southern Baptists.

Shouldn’t we ask him about these two statements from the Southern Baptist Church’s statement of faith: “A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ.” and “Every Christian should seek to bring industry, government, and society as a whole under the sway of the principles of righteousness, truth, and brotherly love.”

jim m on March 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Finally…

Mr. Obama?…Yes, or No…After truthfully answering the foregoing questions, will you unapologetically tell the American People “The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is lying through his teeth”

In other words, call a ♠ a “Spade” ?

franksalterego on March 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM

RACISM IS NOT A MISUNDERSTANDING

madmonkphotog on March 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Wright is just another example of what’s becoming an increasingly troublesome issue: Obama’s record of poor judgement when it comes to selecting associates and “advisors”: lest we forget, there’s also Rezko, Powers and Ayers.

So that’s 3 of 4 people that he’s had to disassociate himself with – or at least try to. You can include his wife in the list of dubious associations too, although she may be better categorized as less toxic extension of Wright.

And this is only the beginning of any serious inquiry and investigation of Obama’s character and associations. The Devil’s in the details, and I suspect that the harder one looks at the man, those devilish details will grow from a trickle, to a stream and maybe a flood.

Consider two trite sayings:

- “You can judge a man by the company he keeps;” and
- “Birds of a feather, flock together.”

And recall that sayings like that become trite because they’ve been used so often, and they’ve been used so often because they’re true.

And the real inquiry into just who Obama really is has only gotten started. I wonder what other revelations are in store? That’s why Hillary’s still in the race. Waiting for Obama to implode, and no doubt working to help that implosion along.

Spurius Ligustinus on March 16, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Wright is just another example of what’s becoming an increasingly troublesome issue: Obama’s record of poor judgement when it comes to selecting associates and “advisors”: lest we forget, there’s also Rezko, Powers and Ayers.

Power* you know like “Black Power” >:D

Samantha Power

Chakra Hammer on March 16, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Nothing is easier than to give Christian asceticism a socialist tinge.

That applies to Barack Obama. It applies to Hillary Clinton. But who said it?

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels 160 years ago…
1848 Manifesto of the Communist Party

Red Pill on March 16, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Obama says he wants his children to live in a united America…but indoctrinates them Sundays year after year with the anti-white and anti-American tirades of the bigotted Pastor Wright?!

Those who can believe such tripe from a candidate must be pathologically delusional. I do not see the slightest rational/common sense arguement Obama made in this 6 minute clip to persuade otherwise, that he himself has “moved on” or is in any position whatsoever to unite Americans.

Divert/re-direct the fatal issue? Yes, indeed. That what the clear purpose of the “forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again” statement.

Oh, the bankruptcy of the Democratic Party.

Lockstein13 on March 16, 2008 at 2:21 PM

…greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life.

We all know how the Democrats openly mock the “idiots” in the rural “flyover country” between New York City and Los Angeles. So who said the quote above?

Karl Marx and Frederick Engels 160 years ago…
1848 Manifesto of the Communist Party

Red Pill on March 16, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Here in L.A. all the wacky, young, liberal, white girls have Obonga bumper stickers.

SaintOlaf on March 15, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Yes, here also the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West.

misterpeasea on March 16, 2008 at 2:25 PM

I knew the Communist Party was alive and well in the USA, but I only learned today that they have their own version of the Constitution.

Which Constitution would Barack or Hillary swear to defend? The one you know and love, or the one they know and love?

Red Pill on March 16, 2008 at 2:31 PM

I counted 17 references to “democracy” or “democratic” in the Communist’s Constitution, but 0 (zero) references to “republic” or “republican”.

Democrats will tell you that we live in a Democracy. That is a lie.

We live in a Constitutional Republic. We live by the rule of law, not by the rule of the mob. Yes, we elect our representatives democratically (sort-of), but that alone does not make this country a Democracy.

Never lose sight of the fact that we live in a Republic.

There are two reasons socialist liberals don’t like the Pledge of Allegiance…those two reasons are bolded below:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Red Pill on March 16, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Talk about chickens coming home to roost…

A real shocka that the mainstream media has not showed the utter hypocracy of his spoken word and with whom he associates. His barbs could just as easily applied to his own pastor.

(emphasis is mine)

Obama Says Some Have `hijacked’ Faith
Jun 23 03:24 PM US/Eastern
By STEPHEN SINGER
Associated Press Writer

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) – Sen. Barack Obama told a church convention Saturday that some right- wing evangelical leaders have exploited and politicized religious beliefs in an effort to sow division.

Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart. It got hijacked,” the Democratic presidential candidate said in remarks prepared for delivery before the national meeting of the United Church of Christ.

“Part of it’s because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who’ve been all too eager to exploit what divides us,” the Illinois senator said.

At every opportunity, they’ve told evangelical Christians that Democrats disrespect their values and dislike their church, while suggesting to the rest of the country that religious Americans care only about issues like abortion and gay marriage, school prayer and intelligent design,” according to an advance copy of his speech.

“There was even a time when the Christian Coalition determined that its number one legislative priority was tax cuts for the rich,” Obama said. “I don’t know what Bible they’re reading, but it doesn’t jibe with my version.”

Obama is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church of about 1.2 million members that is considered one the most liberal of the mainline Protestant groups.

In 1972, the church was the first to ordain an openly gay man. Two years ago, the church endorsed same-sex marriage, the largest Christian denomination to do so. Obama believes that states should decide whether to allow gay marriage, and he opposes a constitutional amendment against it.

Conservative Christian bloggers have linked Obama to what they call the “unbiblical” teachings of his church. Theological conservatives believe gay relationships violate Scripture, while more liberal Christians emphasize the Bible’s social justice teachings.

Obama trails Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York by 33 percent to 21 percent in the most recent Associated Press-Ipsos poll among Democrats and those leaning toward the party.

moxie_neanderthal on March 16, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Can America explain the The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment?

ackrite55 on March 16, 2008 at 3:00 PM

McCain has been a member of a Phoenix church for the last fifteen years which is affiliated with the Southern Baptists.

Shouldn’t we ask him about these two statements from the Southern Baptist Church’s statement of faith: “A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ.” and “Every Christian should seek to bring industry, government, and society as a whole under the sway of the principles of righteousness, truth, and brotherly love.”

jim m on March 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Is McCain’s minister a member of his campaign party as a high level advisor. That’s the position Wright held in Obama’s campaign.

I have no problem questioning the ideals, beliefs, and state of mind of any official advisor of any presidential candidate. If you can find anti American and racially charged comments made by a McCain advisor that holds a position in McCain team, then by all means post it.

Hog Wild on March 16, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Can America explain the The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment?

ackrite55 on March 16, 2008 at 3:00 PM

No. That’s why Americans have spent half a century fixated on the racial issues in our country and the plight of African Americans. That’s why American has so far put up with the hatred of black racists like Sharpton and Wright, and Farrakhan, etc.That’s why extraordinary preferences were extended to AA in hiring, college admissions, etc.

All of that came to and end during this Pres. election season.

Can you explain why BO and his wife, who have everything and more, who have been the beneficiaries of every kind of largess, would choose to present themselves as victims of racism and to paint Americans as racist?

Don’t bother answering. I’m not interested in hearing about it anymore.

JiangxiDad on March 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Can America explain the The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment?

ackrite55 on March 16, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Yes. It was a despicable thing done to 399 black men by doctors who were both white and black.

http://www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207586

Make sure not to miss this part:

Gray, however, named only whites and white organizations as defendants in the suit, portraying Tuskegee as a black and white case when it was in fact more complex than that —black doctors and institutions had been involved from beginning to end.

Instead of being just sued, the whole lot of doctor’s should have lost their medical credentials and prosecuted as criminals.

Hog Wild on March 16, 2008 at 3:19 PM

How about McCain’s National Director of Hispanic Outreach? That’s Dr. Juan Hernandez, who believes in open borders.

McCain left the Episcopal Church about 15 years ago to join the Phoenix church affiliated with the Southern Baptists. He must have decided he agreed with SBC policies, right?

jim m on March 16, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Hog Wild on March 16, 2008 at 3:19 PM

JiangxiDad on March 16, 2008 at 3:18 PM

I wouldn’t bother with this guy. He cross posted that to several threads. I don’t think it was relevant to any of them. I think he dwells under a bridge.

Oldnuke on March 16, 2008 at 4:03 PM

What other threads? Are you sure?

ackrite55 on March 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM

ackrite55 on March 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM

I was sure I saw the question posted on another Obama thread here on HotAir. I could have been wrong, if so I apologize. My other comment stands. Don’t see what the question has to do with the thread.

Oldnuke on March 16, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Oldnuke on March 16, 2008 at 4:03 PM

That’s quite alright, I’m sure ackrite55 learned something that he didn’t quite expect, and now even more people are aware that it wasn’t just white people taking advantage of those unfortunate men in the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment.

I’ve never had a problem with the truth, it’s just the half truth’s that are a problem.

Hog Wild on March 16, 2008 at 6:39 PM

In this video Obama appears absolutely shattered. Amazing. Gone is the oratorial bravado. Nothing but a shell.

Lockstein13 on March 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM

If words have meaning then why don’t you seem to believe him he says he doesn’t agree with the hateful words of his pastor. Those words apparently don’t seem to count with you.

terryannonline on March 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Oh, Terry. Why on earth would you buy Obama’s lamest-of-all-lame-political-desperation-moves with his condemnation of Wright, whom he has followed as a religious leader for twenty years?

Are you serious? You would put greater weight on his statements in the past 24 hours of a political disaster, than on his actions for the past 20 years? Why? (And youth is not an excuse…)

Jaibones on March 16, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Why pursue this story anymore?
Obama has said what he has needed to say. Let’s move on.

terryannonline on March 15, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Move on? To what?

Jaibones on March 16, 2008 at 9:15 PM

24 hour 7 days a week coverage of this story until Hussein O drops out of the race and resigns from the senate.

SaintOlaf on March 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM

SaintOlaf on March 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Amen.

Jaibones on March 16, 2008 at 9:48 PM

You want evidence of racism? This is a must-read.

Red Pill on March 17, 2008 at 5:44 AM

“God DAMN America!”
JUST WORDS?

“The U.S. of KKK A.!”
JUST WORDS?

“Reverend Wright is my mentor and has been for 20 years.”
JUST WORDS?

Let’s paraphrase here:

“I disagree with some of the words of Reverend Wright which I never heard over my 20 years of attendance in his Church.”
JUST BULL!

“I chose to protegee under Dr. Wright, proudly called him my mentor, and none of his anti-American hate-filled racist bigotry ever had the slightest effect on me.”
JUST BULL!

Lockstein13 on March 17, 2008 at 6:24 AM

OK where do I start?
First:Who could possibly buy the “I never personnelly heard these kind of statements?
second:Who could still think this “Great Healer” is not Raciest and Anti-American at heart.
third:How could so many Whites stand behind him chanting “OBAMA” “OBAMA” “OBAMA”
four:When when people start asking these questions?

atwitsend on March 17, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Every time this child…this naive little kid, invokes the words of Kennedy or MLK, I swear I can hear them spinning at 30,000 RPM in their graves.

Army Brat on March 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM

You want evidence of racism? This is a must-read.

Red Pill on March 17, 2008 at 5:44 AM

Good contribution. Thanks.

Jaibones on March 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM

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