“Squid Shark on March 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM”

…. Dude!

Anything we do is just more proof of how horrible we are and how important the defense of Islam is to every Muslim.

There is no rule in Islam that does not have an “out” or some kind of exception to it.

Take Ramadan for example. It’s one of the Five Pillars and it has more exemptions than a 1040 form. This “fast” is anything but. All a Muslim has to do is not eat, smoke, or have sex from dawn to dusk. That’s my average day year round. (Well, not the smoking part but Muslims are not supposed to smoke anyway.) They only have to do it for a month and they get to eat and screw all night if they want. And they get a big celebration feast at the end of it.

But what does a poor Muslim do who lives in a place like Arctic Circle? Why, that’s easy. Just don’t look out the window.

The only real defense we have against Muslim supremacism is to have more respect for our own culture, country, and way of life, and to stop acting like we’re the bad guys.

Islam will win because Western Culture will let it.

messager

I also think the correct word is masseuse :)

Don’t take the “kill the messager to avoid the question” route.

When the messenger is so painfully unreliable, I think he may need to die.

My part of the bible is old, but its core has beem part of Jewish theology for thousands of years.

You “part” of the “bible”, or your “sequel” is a mish mash of greek stories and letters, cobbled together sometimes a few hundred years after the fact.

Forgive me if I am not buying your volcano insurance today.

I wish I didnt have to be so blunt with you….but you insisted.

Tell them no when they beg you to beat them.

On this I have to agree with Mukasey. Executing them is what they would want because they would become martyrs who died for the jihad. Don’t give them what they want.

You think that man can, thru his own efforts, create an ideal society and that man can be perfect, as God’s law commands us to be.

No I dont, as I said before. I dont believe Jesus is going to come and make it all better though.

The problem is that’s it’s your self righteousness that blinds you to the hundreds and hundreds of obvious Scriptural references pointing out the fact that Jesus is the Messiah, Squid.

I would venture that you have a streak of self righteousness masking as religious faith.

They are obvious to you, vauge and awfully convenient to me.

Administer justice but don’t let them get their propaganda victory.

It’s not my “eisegesis problem”.

You think that man can, thru his own efforts, create an ideal society and that man can be perfect, as God’s law commands us to be.

I can see the parallel thought here.

It’s either that, or you think; somehow, we can break God’s Law and that we can just ask Him to forgive us and He will.

Tell me this; if an al qaeda terrorist guilty of murder says to the judge “yes I know I committed murder but I wanted to ask you to forgive me”.

Would you just let him go free or does he still deserve to be punished?

If the judge just let him go free…would he be a just judge?

No.

Someone has to pay.

This is what Jesus Christ does for us.

We can experience Grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

Don’t take the “kill the messager to avoid the question” route.

Not that it is even agreed before Christianity that this was a prophesy about Messiah.

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem,the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first born

I took you for better than to quote me a nutter site like jesus-is-lord.com, your referencing them tells me alot.

That site was part of my research for the “fringe” Christianity thesis I defended at university.

As for the quotes, I am familiar with all of those on the list, you have a serious Eisegesis problem I am afraid.

Every time you quote the King James Bible, you loose me a little more BTW.

Behold,thou shall call a nation that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the Lord thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel, for he hath glorified thee.

Here is a larger list of Scriptures answering your questions

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/messiah.htm

Daniel 9:24-26

http://www.geocities.com/cobblestoneministries/2006/Jews_Jesus.html

If you read God’s Word, in your Bible, you will see that if Jesus Christ had not come to earth by the time of the destruction of the second temple, then either the Messiah came and no one noticed him, or God was lying to you and didn’t keep His promise.

You placement of Jesus Christ where Messiah should be does not convince me that you are going to hit me with anything but your standard issue history.

The messiah was generally considered to be a leader, not a lamb.

The whole sacrifice and sin thing came following the death of Jesus as his followers tried to rationalize and fit this unexpected occasion into the mold. There were thousands of Messiahs, Jesus’ followers were the ones who figured out how to apologize his execution into existing Jewish messianism.

I noticed you went after the accuracy of the Scripture and didn’t answer my question about whether you have kept the Law of Moses 100% of the time, all your life.

No I havent, and neither has anyone else…

I went after the accuracy because I was trying to nip the invevitable pitch ahead of the game. I have spent years deep in the Tanak and spent a great deal of my education on your gospels as well.

Not sold.

I forgot to mention that it was prophecied in your Bible that God’s own chosen people(The Jews)would be scattered for 2000 years because they rejected God’s Son, the gentiles would ironically be the ones who accept Him.

The God of the Israelites and the Gospel will be preached,by the gentiles, to the entire earth, before He returns.

Chapter, verse, quotes please.

Your culture is the only culture in the world that has prophesied it would be destroyed and scattered throughout the earth and 2000 years later…..be reborn as a nation!

This has been fulfilled, as have thousands of prophecies in the Bible.

Your Bible has over 400 prophecies about Jesus Christ that have been fulfilled!

I forgot to mention that it was prophecied in your Bible that God’s own chosen people(The Jews)would be scattered for 2000 years because they rejected God’s Son, the gentiles would ironically be the ones who accept Him.

The God of the Israelites and the Gospel will be preached,by the gentiles, to the entire earth, before He returns.

However, the reading in of prophesy to our books to justify some part of Christian Theology is what I dont buy.

Squid Shark on March 15, 2008 at 11:40 PM

If you read God’s Word, in your Bible, you will see that if Jesus Christ had not come to earth by the time of the destruction of the second temple, then either the Messiah came and no one noticed him, or God was lying to you and didn’t keep His promise.

God is the only good One. God will certainly keep His promises.

I noticed you went after the accuracy of the Scripture and didn’t answer my question about whether you have kept the Law of Moses 100% of the time, all your life.

Johan Klaus on March 15, 2008 at 11:59 PM

INdeed, I am pretty sure of what you are driving out.

El Guapo, these captured terrorist do not have constutional protection.

Johan Klaus

You are absolutely correct! But that was not my point. In case some liberal wants to try to give them constitutional rights becuase they “are on US soil now”, well, then lets punish them according to the 16th Amendment. Put their butts to work, until death!

Just the facts of history. Read WW1 and WW2 history.

Johan Klaus on March 15, 2008 at 11:55 PM

Eh, I got a pretty good edumacation in college :)