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Oprah’s boards burning with Wright responses; Wright accuses America of creating the HIV virus

posted at 11:47 am on March 14, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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As I noted earlier, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has more than one high-profile member in his congregation. Besides presidential hopeful Barack Obama, Wright also preaches his message to Oprah Winfrey, one of the most successful and beloved media personalities in America. She has an active on-line community at Oprah.com, and her forums have had almost 300 posts from members in the past 24 hours after the revelations of race-baiting and hatred at Trinity United Church. Most talk about their concern over the content of Wright’s sermons:

I have to agree with Dick Morris [who appeared on Fox's O'Reilly Factor last night]. We both intensely dislike Hillary and Bill. But, it needs to be said that Rev. Wright strikes me as a very dangerous, divisive, and anti-American racist. …

This is extremely troubling. Rev. Wright is one of the worst I’ve seen anywhere in America. He is truly dangerous. .. .. .. Obama’s failure to distance himself from this very dangerous anti-American will become more damaging in the next few days. …

I was upset as well. It’s beyond inflammatory and much worse than anything Geraldine Ferrarro said, yet I don’t hear a peep out of Obama. What is pastor said is beyond disgusting. To blame the US for what happened on 9/11. And I am NO fan of the Clintons, but those things he said about Hillary and Bill…and did you “see” the tapes or just hear them? This would certainly explain Michelle Obama’s anger.

Let’s wait and see if the mainstream media steps up to the plate. They took great glee in attacking Mitt Romney and his LDS faith, let’s see if they go after Obama. …

Obama should not be held responsible for what Rev. Wright says from the pulpit. However, being a member of a church that is racist is not much different than being a white person who belongs to a country club that doesn’t admit Blacks. …

The threads also pointed to an allegation made by Wright that the US created the HIV virus, presumably for deliberate infection of certain populations. In a speech made at Howard University in January 2006, he offered the following conspiracy theories:

Mr. Wright thundered on: “America is still the No. 1 killer in the world. . . . We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns, and the training of professional killers . . . We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there. We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”

Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”

It isn’t so much the anger that Wright manifests that will be off-putting to mainstream Americans of all creeds and colors, but the conspiracy-theory lunacy that he spews. Almost all Americans gave up on supremacy theories decades ago; most of those who espoused them are dead. No one has argued in the mainstream in any way, shape, or form for that kind of nonsense since the Dixiecrat movement died out in the 1960s. An ill-worded valediction for Strom Thurmond six years ago drew so much condemnation that it forced Trent Lott out of his leadership position in the Senate, although to be fair, former Klan member Robert Byrd remains in the Senate — as a Democrat.

Most Americans would find the notion that we are crypto-supremacists insulting and offensive. And yet two of the most popular people in the US choose to attend the church of a minister who apparently makes that a recurring theme of his ministry. In Obama’s case, he has given over $22,000 to support Wright and his message in 2006 alone.

Given the intense media interest in Mormon underwear and LDS doctrine in the fall of 2007, one might expect a little more scrutiny of the much more political and racially-charged message coming from the pulpit of the Trinity United Church. It looks like that may have already begun, and the reputations of both Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey rest on how quickly and adeptly they can distance themselves from the debacle.

Update: Barack Obama tried pushing back, but this seems rather weak:

Q: I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but it’s all over the wire today (from an ABC News story), a statement that your pastor (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s South Side) made in a sermon in 2003 that instead of singing “God Bless America,” black people should sing a song essentially saying “God Damn America.”

A: I haven’t seen the line. This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

Q: What about this particular statement?

A: Obviously, I disagree with that. Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it’s important to judge me on what I’ve said in the past and what I believe.

Cherry-pick? Perhaps Senator Obama can explain the context that would justify “God damn America” and the accusation that America created HIV. That dog won’t hunt.

Howard Dean left his church over a bike path. We laughed at the superficiality of that choice, but Obama has a much better reason to repudiate Trinity — and Wright’s supposed retirement won’t come nearly in time to rescue him from this problem.


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I’d be ESPECIALLY interested to see this, as one of the victims of that LDS baiting. Will it happen? I doubt it. Not even from our resident anti-Mormons.

But Wright is seriously claiming that the US created the AIDS virus, eh? What’s next: we somehow infected Arafat with it as part of our genocidal zionist campaign to cleanse the world of the Palestinian infection?

Man, if we pulled THAT off, I’ll start looking for the Men in Black.

Vanceone on March 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM

‘G. damn America!’

carbon_footprint on March 14, 2008 at 11:52 AM

I am loving this!

ArmyAunt on March 14, 2008 at 11:53 AM

This would be a smart time for Obama to CHANGE… his pastor/church.

loganthompson on March 14, 2008 at 11:53 AM

We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”

The turd world is what it is because of the people that live there, not because of us. If they had any gumption, ambition, or moxy, they could make something out of nothing like the early Americans did.

People get the government they deserve, and their culture reflects their people.

saiga on March 14, 2008 at 11:55 AM

By focusing on the anti-Americanism, racism, and conspiracies you people are overlooking the positive aspects of Reverend Wright’s message…

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Mike Honcho on March 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Oprahbama will buy her audience a Lane Bryant shirt or something. They’ll scream (maybe faint). All is well again.

SouthernGent on March 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM

the reputations of both Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey rest on how quickly and adeptly they can distance themselves from the debacle.

Or he will be elected President and she’ll continue to sell books, because most of America hates itself…

tommylotto on March 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM

hmmmm. when i go to the “almost 300 posts” link, it shows me no results.

its vintage duh on March 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I can see it now! President Obama invites Rev. Wright to lead Congressional Prayer Breakfast!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on March 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM

The threads also pointed to an allegation made by Wright that the US created the HIV virus, presumably for deliberate infection of certain populations.

“Certain populations,” He means Blacks.

I think the U.S. by “creating” the Bush, the Kennedy, the Clinton, the McCain and the Hussein families caused more harm to America and the World than HIV/AIDS.

Indy Conservative on March 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM

and her forums have had almost 300 posts from members in the past 24 hours after the revelations of race-baiting and hatred at Trinity United Church.

Is oprah.com ethnically cleansing the site? 0 posts for “wright”

lorien1973 on March 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM

This would certainly explain Michelle Obama’s anger.

This is the connection average folks will make and it will stick like superglue as anything the truly resonates does.

People may then realize that Barak may be saying one thing publicly and another thing privately just like he did on NAFTA. If people conclude that, he may be done and by that I mean they may even deny him the nomination through the Super delegates.

TheBigOldDog on March 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM

its vintage duh on March 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Me too.

Geronimo on March 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM

hmmmm. when i go to the “almost 300 posts” link, it shows me no results.

its vintage duh on March 14, 2008 at 11:58 AM

n/m. when you set the search to “all” (which isn’t the default) it shows up.

its vintage duh on March 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Fallout, on the next Oprah

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swear the captions on this site are pure genius…

D2Boston on March 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM

the reputations of both Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey rest on how quickly and adeptly they can distance themselves from the debacle.

Not true. “Guilt by association” only works against Republicans conservatives. Otherwise, a Grand Kleagle of the KKK would never have been elected, and re-elected, and re-elected…

rmgraha on March 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM

It looks like that may have already begun, and the reputations of both Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey rest on how quickly and adeptly they can distance themselves from the debacle.

Can’t do it now. If they leave or try to repudiate Wright just because there is a public uproar, the taint remains. They drank at the well too long before this all came out. The tapdance and media response should be entertaining, though.

a capella on March 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM

“We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .””

……. isn’t that quote in the UN Charter somewhere?

Seven Percent Solution on March 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM

tommylotto on March 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM

Project much?

ChrisM on March 14, 2008 at 12:01 PM

SouthernGent on March 14, 2008 at 11:56 AM

HAHA. She’ll need a Prius to make them forget about this…

Theworldisnotenough on March 14, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Well, she’s got her sales pitch down for when she has to sell pencils out of a coffee cup:

“You get a pencil! You get a pencil! You all get pencils!”

James on March 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM

because most of America hates itself…

tommylotto on March 14, 2008 at 11:57 AM

I disagree. However, some people in America hate America.

SouthernGent on March 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM

But, to criticize Obama or Wright is to *be* racist, guys. We can’t do that!

And if we did, McCain would have to apologize for us.

Midas on March 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM

The thing I find most hilarious is that on Keith Olbermann’s home page there is not a mention, nary a whisper regarding this story, but there is a segment about some guy that endorsed McCain that said Islam is a false religion and he hints that McCain believes the same thing.

Weird.

saltydogg14 on March 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM

“We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”

I can’t stand these people who think our economy is a “fixed pie”– as in, we’re only rich because we took the slices of others. Capitalism is a wealth creator…. scary if Obama buys this stuff and becomes Prez…

Pasalubong on March 14, 2008 at 12:05 PM

This guy Wright sounds like he is about three French Fries shy of a Happy Meal. Plus he now has a national podium of sorts to rant all manner of exciting craziness from. So how much longer you take it will take before B.O. starts distancing himself from this yoohoo?

pilamaye on March 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Can’t do it now. If they leave or try to repudiate Wright just because there is a public uproar, the taint remains. They drank at the well too long before this all came out. The tapdance and media response should be entertaining, though.

a capella on March 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM

This suggests that the MSM won’t be willing accomplices in the process.

Note that Obama has skated on Wright this long *because* the MSM is a willing accomplice.

We expect this to change now because…. why, again?

Midas on March 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Mrs. Clinton should really push for a Florida do-over. She might get 80% of the vote!

SouthernGent on March 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM

We bombed Cambodia, Iraq and Nicaragua, killing women and children while trying to get public opinion turned against Castro and Ghadhafi . . . We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison and supported apartheid the whole 27 years he was there.

So opposing communism during the Vietnam war and the 1980s Central America is bad? Opposing a ruthless dictator in Cuba and a terrorist in Libya is bad?
I didn’t realize the US put Mandela in prison, I thought it was the SA government. What’s next, is the US responsible for the second Peloponnesian War?

rbj on March 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM

He can’t walk away from Wright when he’s got his wife parroting a somewhat sanitized version of his rhetoric. The curtain has been pulled back. The only question is how effective will the media be in covering it up.

TheBigOldDog on March 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM

In the MSM, this will be a one day story. The NY Times and the networks will gloss over it during the tail end of a news day and then say: “We covered it. It is now old news”. But let’s look at the way George Bush was treated when in 2000, he gave a speech at Bob Jones University. The MSM lambasted Bush for months. And when McCain gave a speech at Liberty University, he was pilloried for months. And don’t forget how apoplectic CNN and Jeffrey Toobin were when Clarence Thomas gave a graduation speech at Liberty University. CNN and Toobin thought this showed how weird Justice Thomas is. So I have to wonder why CNN and Mr. Toobin are so quiet about Reverend Wright and Senator Obama? Could CNN be trying to protect its favored candidate from any scrutiny. I can John King and Campbell Brown trying to figure out a way to avoid the Wright story altogether.

Larraby on March 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM

You hit again on a ke thing Allah on why Obama needs to repudiate Revern Wright. Because he and Obama belonging to his congrigation gives LEGITIMACY to his message by not standing up to him.

The PC correct world has hammered anyone who doesnt hold a OC veiw of the world yet now is falling silent on one that involves minorities.

IF the master of “new” politics cant stand up to the old politics of hate then he truely is an empty shirt full of false hopes and promises.

William Amos on March 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM

He can’t walk away from Wright when he’s got his wife parroting a somewhat sanitized version of his rhetoric.

That is a key point.

I’m glad Wright is getting the light of day. I don’t believe in gba, but considering the circumstances, I think Obama is going to twist himself into a pretzel over this and subsequently lose some of his appeal.

Spirit of 1776 on March 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM

This is not an atypical view, it is the typical view of the usa in most urban districts and on most university campuses.

You can hear versions of wright’s sermons (less dramatically delivered) from most pulpits (black and white).

There are entire university departments dedicated to peddling wright’s point of view.

oldvannes on March 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Wow this is explossive! Hugh Hewwitt plays clips of Jeremiah Wright’s speech. Amazing…justifying 9/11 as saying “…Goddamn America…” “…America’s chickens coming home to roost..(given 2003)”

Obama attended this church for 20 years. This is a legitimate issue.

Link 3: Starts at 10:30 minutes
Thursday March 13, 2008
Joel Kaplan, Michael Gerson With Hugh Hewitt
03130801 Hewitt: Hour 1 – Hugh talks about the FISA law still being politicized in the House with White House Deputy Chief of Staff Joel Kaplan, and then with former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson about the disturbing rhetoric from Barack Obama’s pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5

moxie_neanderthal on March 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM

These revelations of Wright’s racism and bigotry are coming out too early for the GOP – if this were September/October Obama would be finished.

Still, it is good to see this demagogue getting the scrutiny he deserves.

Pax americana on March 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Is Osama Bin Laden writing speeches for Rev. Wright. Wait, I retract that. OBL doesn’t get that nasty.

Am I dreaming? Is all of this really happening?

Somebody pinch me before I die laughing.

fogw on March 14, 2008 at 12:12 PM

What’s next, is the US responsible for the second Peloponnesian War?

rbj on March 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Silly! The US and BOOOOOOOOSH are jointly responsible for all wars everywhere and at anytime; including the Galactic Civil War, the Cardassian War, the Dominion War, the East Coast/West Coast Rap War, the Coke/Pepsi War….

Frozen Tex on March 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM

We bombed Cambodia
rbj on March 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM

Just to take this one point. As you well know, the NVA/VC violated Cambodian sovereignty/invaded and were using large pathways through Cambodia as a means of transporting men and material. Moreover, the Lon Nol govt sought assistance.

moxie_neanderthal on March 14, 2008 at 12:14 PM

As the cultural quality of the US continues to deteriorate from uncontrolled immigration, billions in federal funding encouraging the expansion of our indigenous underclass, and the endless assault from the left on our moral standards, we are on our way to being a third world country here.

Our government knows this, and their only hope is that other countries will suffer the same problem. Unfortunately, Asia isn’t playing by the same rules we are. They recognize that not all students are capable of making straight A’s, and straight A students tend to help their economies and flunkies not so much. Over here, we attack the winners and subsidize the losers.

When someone here needs a kick in the butt, instead, we give them a check and encourage more to be flunkies (AKA victims).

saiga on March 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I’m glad Wright is getting the light of day. I don’t believe in gba, but considering the circumstances, I think Obama is going to twist himself into a pretzel over this and subsequently lose some of his appeal. Spirit of 1776 on March 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM

ONLY – if others in the press also report on this. Otherwise, a lot of voters will never hear of this at all.

As saltydogg14 (12:04 PM) mentions, other outlets for news an opinion are ignoring this completely, and beating the drum for democrats, attacking republicans and shielding their audience from even hearing about this.

wise_man on March 14, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Maybe Wright has a secret way to eat rich food AND still lose weight. That’s all that Oprah seem interested in anyway.
You go girl!

Hummer53 on March 14, 2008 at 12:17 PM

If you “profoundly disagree” with your pastor, don’t you find yourself a new church?

I also wonder if Oprah’s new course in spiritualism is similar to this kind of bile that Wright spews.

Hearing all this now makes perfect sense when Oprah has her Hollyweird anti-American friends on her show.

moonsbreath on March 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM

We are only able to maintain our standard of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.

Right. That’s obviously why the United States contributes more aid (financial, food, and otherwise) to the Third World every year than the rest of the First World put together.

Mr. Wright, the reason the Third World is a poverty-ridden sh!thole is not that it is being robbed by the United States.

The robbery is in fact carried out on a daily basis by their own leaders, most of whom are little more than illiterate thugs whose only claim to fame is that they’re quicker on the trigger than anyone else in the neighborhood, and generally crazier into the bargain.

Oh, and BTW, Mr. Wright; the objects of their perpetual kleptomania invariably include the aid we “evil” Americans send to their countries. You might want to take that up with the agency that usually handles delivery. Namely, the United Nations.

cheers

eon

eon on March 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Silly! The US and BOOOOOOOOSH are jointly responsible for all wars everywhere and at anytime; including the Galactic Civil War, the Cardassian War, the Dominion War, the East Coast/West Coast Rap War, the Coke/Pepsi War….

Frozen Tex on March 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Now, I can believe Bush is responsible for all Earth wars (after all, I’ve seen Timecop), but the Cardassian War too?? That bastard!!!

However, I refuse to believe even Bush could start the Galactic Civil War. Near as I can tell that was started by bad casting and horrible dialogue….

Darksean on March 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Bush caused the “Battle of Thermopylae” too.

moonsbreath on March 14, 2008 at 12:22 PM

And Cannae, too. Don’t forget Cannae.

Scipio Africanus, you magnificent b*****d!

cheers

eon

eon on March 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM

I said and wrote about the very same things in January and only now Morris is stating it.
It was all so obvious, and why the media never really picked up on it I found astounding.
They attacked Huckabee and Mitt and din’t touch the one who should have been grinded about his relationship to this pastor and church!

Conservatives R Us on March 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM

The SOB damns the very same constitution that gives him the right to trash his country. If it weren’t for the greatness of this country, his sorry arse would be drop on a parachute (maybe) into a third world African country that he has so much sympathy for. Ironically, anyone of those third world countries would do exactly that to him.

The good news…he’s doing more to take Obama out than any conservative could have dreamed. Again, ironically his freedom of speech will be Obama’s undoing. Life has it’s little rewards!

orlandocajun on March 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Maybe Boosh was the snake in the Garden of Eden.

p40tiger on March 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Oprah: A New Earth

ninjapirate on March 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Wright has put an end to Obama’s hope of ever becoming president.
Congratulations you racist a$$, you have accomplished something that our idiotic GOP leadership could never have hoped to.
Not that I care mind you, because the only way McAmnesty will ever get to the white house is if the president invites him.

leanright on March 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM

According to info via Rush’s show on Thursday (3/14), Wright is “on sabbatical” and now working in Obama’s campaign staff.

The “distance” seems to be shrinking between Obama and the racists, anti-semites, hate-mongers, and black separatists…which now apparently include his preacher and his wife.

landlines on March 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM

When James and John suggested to Jesus that He rain fire and brimstone down on a Samaritan village simply because they (Jesus and his disciples) had not been welcomed there, Jesus rebuked his disciples.

Wright stands in the pulpit, calling down curses on America, and he wants his parishioners to believe that the message he brings somehow comes from Jesus.

My collie says:

Anybody else see a problem here?

CyberCipher on March 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Obama is like the ‘Teflon Don’ this wont stick. It’s going to take more than this to derail America’s first “Affirmative Action” presidential candidate.

netdude5 on March 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM

This suggests that the MSM won’t be willing accomplices in the process.

Note that Obama has skated on Wright this long *because* the MSM is a willing accomplice.

We expect this to change now because…. why, again?

Midas on March 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM

I’m sure the media will try to avoid it. One of their problems is Wright’s stuff is documented and will keep bubbling to the surface, now the scab has been pulled off on the “G-d damn America” phrase.. It isn’t a one off deal like Spitzer, and it puts Obama and Ophra in a defensive position, trying to prove a negative. They have to show they went to that church in spite of what Wright said, not because of it. Gonna be tough to do at this late date. Blogs will keep churning the stuff, and Drudge can’t afford to ignore the juicy stuff as more comes out.

a capella on March 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Step down Obama.

faraway on March 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Obama doesn’t “need to repudiate Wright” – it’s a bit late for that.

He can, of course, play stupid and try to get everyone to believe that he regularly attended, and donated hefty sums to, over a period of many years, but missed completely how racist, divisive, and frankly looney tunes Wrights Wrantings™ really were and are.

Or, he can claim that it sorta bugged him, but not enough to break with the immediate political benefit of his association with the church and Wright, while hoping people miss out on how this reveals him to be an unprincipled, spineless shill.

Either way, his campaign of “Hope” and “Change”, when applied to the man himself, seems almost on par with “hoping” to find a genie in a bottle to “change” your fortunes.

Yeah, vote for Obama. Then hope he changes….

Wind Rider on March 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM

That dog won’t hunt.

I hate this statement.

But as for Obama’s repudiation of Wright’s comments, that was very lame. Suppose there was a Catholic running, and was asked about priest pedophilia in the Boston Diocese. What’s he going to say? “Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick incidents from a guy who had a 40-year career as a priest. There are times when people do things that are just wrong. But I think it’s important to judge me on what I’ve said in the past and what I believe.”

Would that fly in the media today?

Nethicus on March 14, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Well, time to TURN OFF OPRAH. Apparently, she doesn’t want to discuss it on her site, all posts are gone.

Too bad we’ve already made her a bazzzilllionair. Come to think of it, the Trinity Church’s pledge is allegiance to Africa FIRST. THAT explains why Oprah built her church there, instead of in the inner city of Chicago.

nyrofan on March 14, 2008 at 12:31 PM

They tried to make a big deal over the fact that Romney’s grandfather, or was it great-grandfather was a poligamist.

Obama at least had the chance to distance himself from this pastor. It’s pretty hard to disown your ancestors.

MarkTheGreat on March 14, 2008 at 12:32 PM

What’s the big deal?…..”Just words…”

moxie_neanderthal on March 14, 2008 at 12:33 PM

I don’t know about where you go to church but I have attended many all across the country and with only one exception all preached the word of the Bible and made no political declarations. The one church we visited that did this we chose not to return to as visitors or members. Politics is Not why we go to church.

UncleZeb on March 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM

My bucket runneth over after that pic of O-Prah!
Her fans are clueless: “I was upset as well. It’s beyond inflammatory and much worse than anything Geraldine Ferraro said,”…and she just spoke the truth.
After hearing those audio clips for the 10th time I started to listen to the tone of his voice, then I got a chill up my spine. If the accent and the language were changed to German, I could swear I was listening to Adolf.
If Obama thinks that we think that he has never heard this visceral, racist hatred from his mentor, political adviser and pastor, then he thinks we’re as stupid as he hopes we are. Great choice Demos, great choice.

Christine on March 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM

However, I refuse to believe even Bush could start the Galactic Civil War. Near as I can tell that was started by bad casting and horrible dialogue….

Darksean on March 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Who do you think was the casting agent?

Bush caused the “Battle of Thermopylae” too.

moonsbreath on March 14, 2008 at 12:22 PM

He was also chief advisor to Xerxes…

Frozen Tex on March 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Don’t even get me started on Bush and the 2nd Peloponnesian. But it can be fun because of all his malapropisms.

snaggletoothie on March 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM

The only third world countries that live in grinding poverty are those that are led by communists.

Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc.

The list of third world countries that have advanced through 2nd world to even first world status is long.

Other countries such as Mexico have had huge increases in their living standards by tying themselves economically to the US.

Wright is not only a racist, he’s also incredibly ignorant.

MarkTheGreat on March 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM

He meant to say the chickens came home to Proust.

mymanpotsandpans on March 14, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Where’s freevillage?

Wonder what his excuses for Obama will be this time.

Pax americana on March 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM

The press is already playing the “This is no different than McCain’s connection to Micheal Hagee” link

William Amos on March 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Who do you think was the casting agent?

Frozen Tex on March 14, 2008 at 12:35 PM

You….don’t….mean….*head explodes*

Darksean on March 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM

These revelations of Wright’s racism and bigotry are coming out too early for the GOP – if this were September/October Obama would be finished.

I don’t believe that it is coming out too early. Most people aren’t paying attention yet. The few who are in the remaining primary states. It’s this continuing drip of ill repute that will (if anything will) cause the super delegates to back away from Obama.

Hillary has her negatives, but after so many years in the public eye, it’s highly unlikely that anything new will pop up.

If the Dems dump Obama, blacks and the left wing of the party first riots, then walks.
If the Dems keep Obama, this stuff and more will be presented to the nation as a whole in the months prior to November.
The 501’s will have a field day putting this speech into commercials.

MarkTheGreat on March 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Obama’s still trying to skate on this. He needs to be questioned repeatedly on this and on specifics until he can give a legitimate answer. All he’s doing now is spouting dismissive platitudes and fluff. I can’t stand Tim Russert, but maybe he needs to get on this. He loves to hound people on stuff like this.

CP on March 14, 2008 at 12:44 PM

Oprah and Obama and their racist minister, but it’s OK folks, they’ve all been personally oppressed by this country. All that wealth and stardom is just a cover.

It is so sweet that Oprah has tangled herself into this. You go girl!!!

Hening on March 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM

I notice all of the commenters seem to be recent to the board (most show they’ve only be posting since Feb or later). Of course, I don’t know how old the board is.

frankj on March 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM

I have seen, in some black, liberal friends, after long discussions about politics (which we usually don’t agree about) and religion (which we usually do agree about), glimpses of this anger and some, what I was raised to consider, racism. Quite often against Asians, but also against whites.

We shared our church with a black congregation for a while, and whenever our pastor needed to go discuss pretty much any touchy issue with the other churches pastor, the other pastor would back-handedly accuse our pastor of racism. Everything, to him, was about the white, racist culture that our pastor had grown up in. He felt that he knew what was in our pastor’s heart and it was, to him, all racist.

When I saw Wright speak, I remembered these conversations incidents and I wondered just how prevalent this is. Is there a seething, hateful, resentful, racist culture that white people don’t usually see, that we’re now seeing a glimpse of?

29Victor on March 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Like the nuns always used to say, “Empty barrels make the most noise.”

D2Boston on March 14, 2008 at 12:47 PM

His voice rising, Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.”

Will venomous hateful talk like this finally convince Jewish Americans to stop automaticaly pulling the lever for Democrats?

fogw on March 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM

the reputations of both Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey rest on how quickly and adeptly they can distance themselves from the debacle.

They cant distance themselves from his word, that is who they are. Oprah/Obama have the only thing worse than WHITE guilt in America……….BLACK guilt.

TroubledMonkey on March 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM

I don’t know about where you go to church but I have attended many all across the country and with only one exception all preached the word of the Bible and made no political declarations. The one church we visited that did this we chose not to return to as visitors or members. Politics is Not why we go to church.

UncleZeb on March 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM

We had a fill-in for the pulpit during the last presidential election, who spent God’s time mouthing off about this country and George Bush. I walked out on a sermon for the first time. There is no reason to sit and listen to that stuff in church. Obama is a big boy who could have walked away, but he’s buying it. Just listen to his nutty wife spout it all back.

Hening on March 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM

I don’t think this is coming out too early, for two reasons.

First (or rather the second reason, especially chronologically), McCain will/would do nothing with this, so for this to come out in the general it would be wasted.

Second is that this further mucks up the Dhim primary and makes the possibility of a gloriously messy convention. The further this carries on, the more injured they both become and the more money they have to spend.

Listening to Rush right now and the perfect anti-B. Hussein ad just presented itself. Show B. Hussein with that clip of “Don’t tell me words don’t mean things” and then show all of his anti-american minister’s tirades.

Darksean on March 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Will venomous hateful talk like this finally convince Jewish Americans to stop automaticaly pulling the lever for Democrats?

fogw on March 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Not a chance. Not in your lifetime. Deaf/blind stupidity.

JiangxiDad on March 14, 2008 at 12:52 PM

We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .””
……. isn’t that quote in the UN Charter somewhere?

Seven Percent Solution on March 14, 2008 at 12:00 PM

And Obama is currently sponsoring in the Senate a bill to give nearly $1 Trillion dollars of U.S. taxpayers dollars (in addition to our already sustantial foreign aid) to the United Nations to help combat “global poverty.”

Anybody seriously believe that this Wright nut doesn’t influence Obama’s thinking?

AZCoyote on March 14, 2008 at 12:53 PM

I just want to say at full volume: GOD BLESS AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE BRAVE, THE LIBERATOR AND PROTECTOR OF – AMONG OTHER PEOPLES AND LANDS – THE SLAVES, THE EUROPEANS, THE JAPANESE, THE PHILLIPINES, THE KOREANS, THE ISRAELIS, THE HATIANS, THE KUWAITIS, THE AFGHANIS AND THE IRAQIS!

Take that and chew for a while. When the s–t hits the fan, we take the call. Even at 3 AM. That’s what makes us so special and proud.

America has been and always will be a great country who corrects past errors. Nothing to hang our heads about anymore.

We’re Americans, not American’ts. We will never surrender.

God Bless America
“While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that’s free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. ”

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.

Indeed.

HotAirJosef on March 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Will venomous hateful talk like this finally convince Jewish Black Americans to stop automaticaly pulling the lever for Democrats?

fogw on March 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM

labrat on March 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM

I guess B. Hussein Obama’s well noted ability to influence those who listen to him must somehow fail on those closest to him. His wife, who obviously has taken Wright’s message to heart, probably has more influence on BHO than anyone else. This is like saying “I beat my wife for 20 years, but I stopped yesterday and we are all better now”. Confederate Yankee has a real good post on this issue.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on March 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM

I gave up on Oprah during the 2000 election after watching her ‘interviews’ with Gore and then later with Bush. It was my first real club over the head to see how biased the news/entertainment presentation was. She positively gushed over Gore, 2 weeks later was close to rude to Bush. I’ll admit to watching now and then if she has someone on I really want to see but I fell off the Church of Oprah wagon long long ago. I am not surprised at all to find she attends this church. She has long seemed to me one of the most racist people on TV and I’ve wondered if no one but me seemed to see that. What does surprise the hell right out of me is to find that she openly attends. She is so media savvy that even though she might agree and support this man I would have expected her to do so very quietly. She had to know that sooner or later what he is preaching would come out and she would be caught in the crosshairs. No surprise at all that disagreeable posts have been removed from her site……everyone loves oprah ya know, there simply is no dissent!

dustoffmom on March 14, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Listening to Rush right now and the perfect anti-B. Hussein ad just presented itself. Show B. Hussein with that clip of “Don’t tell me words don’t mean things” and then show all of his anti-american minister’s tirades.

Darksean on March 14, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Great idea. Wouldn’t take long to knock up a youtube clip for starters.

Pax americana on March 14, 2008 at 12:57 PM

I suspect that what we have thus far hear from Obama on thie Wright issue is about all we’re going to hear, for an important but ultimately destructive reason: Most of the people who support Obama agree with the conclusions Wright draws about the USA, even if they may quietly object to some of the specific language he uses to make his point.

Mike D. on March 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Before anyone knew there was a Karl Rove, there was. And no one will ever convince me he didn’t create Jeremiah Wright out of a Jewish shoe store owner from Skokie named Maury.

Jaibones on March 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Arrogance, thy name is Oprah.

labrat on March 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM

AZCoyote -

Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, Bill O’Reilly, Alan Colmes, John McCain . . . Shall I continue?

fourstringfuror on March 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Before anyone knew there was a Karl Rove, there was. And no one will ever convince me he didn’t create Jeremiah Wright out of a Jewish shoe store owner from Skokie named Maury.

Jaibones on March 14, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Heh.

labrat on March 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Oprah does not like it when people make her look stupid in public. (Remember how she ripped that author a new one, when she found out his “autobiography” was full of lies?)

I’d imagine she’ll make a very public statement about this one.

Obama, not so much.

Tanya on March 14, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Listening to Rush as well. He is all over this and is not going to let it fade away. He’s spent the entire first hour on it and I expect we’ll hear it a lot for the next few months. Go Rush! Even if the MSM will not cover this at all, eventually they will have to cover Rush covering it. Diabolical is that man. :)

dustoffmom on March 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Of course if we push to hard on Wright we will get accused of being “Racists” for attacking a black man. Wright is ready for victimhood and the MSM will feed that part of the story.

William Amos on March 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Muslims can be members of this church if they wanna be. “Sure, we have Muslim members,” was what the receptionist said to the friend of a friend of mine who called. She said all anyone has to do is to attend Sunday school two weeks in a row and then ask to join. No questions asked.

Remember all the grief Mitt got for being Mormon? This outfit makes Mormonism seem sane by comparison.

Akzed on March 14, 2008 at 1:02 PM

HotAirJosef on March 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM

Bravo!

RushBaby on March 14, 2008 at 1:06 PM

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