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Video: Obama’s pastor takes highly nuanced approach to racial divisiveness; Update: More nuance: “God damn America”; Update: Role with campaign?

posted at 9:07 am on March 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Just a little gloss for you on the Messiah’s deep, principled objection to the polarizing Ferraro-esque racial rhetoric that drives Americans apart. The fact that it probably doubles as Exhibit A in the IRS investigation of improper church politicking on his behalf is but a happy accident.

Exit question one, courtesy of Tom Maguire: Does the candidate bring his kids to church to listen to this? And exit question two, via Kaus: What, precisely, makes Andrew Sullivan’s grasp of Obama’s post-racial appeal any more or less objectionable than Geraldine Ferraro’s? Click the image to watch.

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Update: Nothing divisive about this, thankfully. Just a little of ye olde “progressive” Truth to Power.

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda’s attacks because of its own terrorism.

“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost,” he told his congregation.

Update: For the record, yes, Wright is formally part of Obama’s campaign, but in a largely ceremonial role.


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Obama has to face his fiddler.

maverick muse on March 13, 2008 at 11:34 AM

The more we find out about St. Obama, Michelle and the people in their circle, the more it feels like looking underneath a rock.

Cicero43 on March 13, 2008 at 11:37 AM

A second thought. The clergyman is preaching similar to what Islamic radical clerics preach. Instead of looking inside oneself for both their better person and to not blame others for their own lack of success, they look outside for someone or something to be the villain, the cause of their problems or troubles.
Islamic radicals blame America for their own lack of freedom, their poverty, their struggles. It is never their own fault or that their own leaders are actually oppressing them by suppressing the individual rights and freedoms that the US Constitution guarantees. This clergyman is doing similar by encouraging his congregation to look to someone else to blame for their own lack of success or failings. It could never be that they have not worked hard enough or learned enough. No, by his preachings, they are being encouraged to blame “rich white men” for all their problems or troubles.

Wildcatter1980 on March 13, 2008 at 11:38 AM

FoxNews is giving it top billing right now on their politics page.

http://elections.foxnews.com/

Strangely absent on CNN….

MarkABinVA on March 13, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Attention Rush Limbaugh. Please ask MM if you can play this entire clip on air today. I love you already but I will love you even more if you do it. Thank you.

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 9:56 AM

I think Rush or Sean Hannity already aired it yesterday. Probably both.

newton on March 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Obama was raised by white Mom, and grandmother I believe. To be able to listen to this filth, while having a white mother, is a sign of a deep psychological disorder.

I have come to realize that as a result of his racial insecurity, that he must be mentally deranged. He is, quite literally, unfit to be President.

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM

A little more nuance for the Clintons from the “Rev.”

“Bill did us just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was ridin’ dirty,” the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. said.

Video

someguy on March 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM

I can not imagine going to a church where the pastor used G-d damm in a sermon. My faith believes God does not approve of using His name in vain. What is as horrific, is the congragation was cheering at the pastor’s every word.
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letget on March 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM

Says a lot more about Obama (and his wife) now than before the release of these clips, doesn’t it?

True enough, although Michelle has shown us quite a bit in the last few weeks.

Corky on March 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM

He mentions Barack having to grow up in a single parent home. The home he shared with his wealthy white mother.

Esthier on March 13, 2008 at 9:43 AM

Obama didn’t really grow up in a single-parent home. After his black Kenyan father abandoned him and his white mother when Barack was two, the mother remarried a few years later. Barack lived with his mother and step-father (and a half-sister, IIRC), until about age 12, when he moved to Hawaii and lived with his mother’s parents. The grandparents weren’t wealthy, but they weren’t poor either. Barack attended private school in Hawaii.

AZCoyote on March 13, 2008 at 11:51 AM

This type of virulent indoctrination in the youth of America has produced the intended results: Separatist culture and open hostility for all non-believers.

Seems to parallel the Islamist agenda in many ways and forms…

This is separate from a religious issue, thats just the tool this highly biased individual uses to incite and oppress.

Speakup on March 13, 2008 at 11:57 AM

now both the Gov. candidates on the Dem side in NC have come out in support of Obama. One of which is a woman and probable front runner. The DNC in NC are scared to death of Hillary on the ticket, b/c there is a deep hatred of Hillary and the beleif(and polls) say that conservative turnout in NC would be very high to vote against Hillary and thus carry the State GOP elsewhere.

my question though, Obama’s political skills aside, with stuff like his church, his wife and the fact he was the most Liberal Senator in his short career, his Live birth Abortion stance…..how much time do we need to get similar reaction to Obama?

also, if he’s so Politically gifted…why did he not think to vote a little more conservative here and there so his ranking wouldn’t be to the Left of the Senates lone admitted Socialist member? Why would he be so close to a church like this? Does he think he has the political skills and the media backing to overcome this???

jp on March 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM

But, please DO NOT BRING OBAMA’S RACE into this!! What Hatred this man spews in the name of Jesus. He loves Jesus (the black man) yet awards a Jew Hater?!?!?!?

ihasurnominashun on March 13, 2008 at 11:58 AM

You’re such a silly girl. Pretty I bet, but silly.

Not a girl, last time I looked. And most assuredly not pretty! But silly I guess fits. Sometimes in my striving to be “fair” I will go overboard in the Benifit-of-the-Doubt department.

OK, in light of what I’ve now found out, the 20 years, the connection with the campaign, and all that, then yes, there ARE serious questions. And any backing away now would be for show at this point.

JamesLee on March 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Imagine, being raised by a white woman (and abandoned by a black man), and he ends up being a contender for President…left out a little important piece of information Reverend.
Thank GOD for the WHITE WOMAN…doesn’t quite have the appeal to your victim mentality does it.

right2bright on March 13, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Dems are already defending Obama

Hanitty and Colmes

William Amos on March 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM

“Jesus was a poor black man”?

“Hillary was not a black boy”

“Rich white folk” repeated 50 times or more.

I think Rev. Wright may be more racist than Minister FaraCon.

faraway on March 13, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I wonder what Obama’s white mother thinks about this.

CP on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM

“Jesus was a poor black man”

I was born a poor black child.
– Steve Martin, The Jerk.

This pastor is a racist, I do have to question anyone who has, as his spiritual advisor, a racist.

rbj on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Obama is a girlie-man.

Connie on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Thank you Rush. You are great.

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 12:24 PM

I wonder what Obama’s white mother thinks about this.

I suspect she would most likely agree.

Sean68 on March 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM

I wonder what Obama’s white mother thinks about this.

CP on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Obama’s mother died of cancer years ago.

AZCoyote on March 13, 2008 at 12:29 PM

A second thought. The clergyman is preaching similar to what Islamic radical clerics preach. Instead of looking inside oneself for both their better person and to not blame others for their own lack of success, they look outside for someone or something to be the villain, the cause of their problems or troubles.
Islamic radicals blame America for their own lack of freedom, their poverty, their struggles. It is never their own fault or that their own leaders are actually oppressing them by suppressing the individual rights and freedoms that the US Constitution guarantees. This clergyman is doing similar by encouraging his congregation to look to someone else to blame for their own lack of success or failings. It could never be that they have not worked hard enough or learned enough. No, by his preachings, they are being encouraged to blame “rich white men” for all their problems or troubles.

Wildcatter1980 on March 13, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Bravo Wildcatter. Yes, people like this “Rev.” Wright want to have our own little intifada here at home. That’s the only place this rhetoric can take you.

funky chicken on March 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM

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It is getting a bit far along for Obama to make an abrupt turn away now. If he does, the fact it is being done only for political purposes will shine right through after this long, plus he’ll alienate that share of the black voters who agree with Wright. He’s joined with Wright at the hip, till death do us part. We’ll see if either Hillary or McCain have the stones to call him on it. I doubt it.
a capella on March 13, 2008 at 11:13 AM

McCain may continue to insist on collegial civility, but Mister and Missus Slick have no such compunctions. Just wait.

MrLynn on March 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM

You combine this kind of “religious” rhetoric with the gangsta rap culture, and you get murders like the ones in Knoxville last year and in Chapel Hill last week.

funky chicken on March 13, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Rush has some pretty damning quotes from Imam Wright.

faraway on March 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM

“Hillary was not a black boy raised in a single parent home.” Did he get that from opposition research?

This preacher drives a Porche while praising poverty. BHO is not rich but he gave more than $22k to this guy’s church last year, lives in a $1.65mil home with a wine cellar that holds a thousand bottles and has book cases of Honduran mahogany.

snaggletoothie on March 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM

What is it about Obama that he surrounds himself with hate-America types? His wife and pastor are probably two of the most influential people in his life and they are both America (or whitey) haters. This should be a wake-up call to all of America, but it won’t be.

bopbottle on March 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Right back at you. Dam you and your racist f—ing church of hate.

leanright on March 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM

politically, this stuff with Obama’s church should be more than enough to get the old Reagan Democrats to become McCain democrats by election day.

jp on March 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM

funky chicken on March 13, 2008 at 12:45 PM

jp,
I agree that he is tone deaf politically.

But why? He plays with the radical left the way Spitzer plays with hookers, and for the same reason: they are both self-destructive.

Obama is the poster child for how hate, even self-righteous leftist hate, can destroy you. His career is over.

And Wright is insane.

PattyJ on March 13, 2008 at 12:45 PM

The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America

Now we know why Obama doesn’t put his hand to his heart during the National Anthem.

I’m mad as hell and I have one thing to say… GD Obama.

faraway on March 13, 2008 at 12:46 PM

I said before that once Hillary won Texas that the Dem primaries would become a Death Match and it would destroy one of the 2 candidates and that one of them will never win another public office. I think it may be Obama.

faraway on March 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Wildcatter1980:

The clergyman is preaching similar to what Islamic radical clerics preach. Instead of looking inside oneself for both their better person and to not blame others for their own lack of success, they look outside for someone or something to be the villain, the cause of their problems or troubles.

This is it. Very important to remember.

Barack Obama’s spiritual mentor Jeremiah Wright’s close association with Louis Farrakhan now makes perfect sense.

Gilda on March 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM

It’s great to see the white, republican version of Political Correctness. “My god he can’t say that about america! How dare he imply that black people are relatively poor, white people relatively rich and blacks have been systematically oppressed in this country!!!”

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM

I sent the link to Sean Hannity, in case he missed it. He’ll love it.

nyrofan on March 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM

I’ with you!!!
Hitler was driven to his hatred. It wasn’t his fault. Racist black people are driven to their racism through the fault of white people. White people are the cause of most of the world’s ills, and the oppression of most everyone else. Their day is coming!!!

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

About Damn time this racist church that Obama has attended for the past 20 years and this racist pastor that Obama considers a mentor is discussed in the public square. How can someone indoctrinated with such hate and separatism lead this country??? I would feel the same way if the grand dragon of the KKK wanted to run this country. Obama does not deserve to lead this country!

ihasurnominashun on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Quick! Someone send these tapes to Olberman. Either they will give him some perspecitve…or teach him some new rhetorical flourishes.

onlineanalyst on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM

I don’t think that’s all he said. But, nice try.

a capella on March 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM

ihasurnominashun on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

You got that right.

Geronimo on March 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM

I’ with you!!!
Hitler was driven to his hatred. It wasn’t his fault. Racist black people are driven to their racism through the fault of white people. White people are the cause of most of the world’s ills, and the oppression of most everyone else. Their day is coming!!!

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

SECOND LOOK AT VICTIMHOOD.

a capella on March 13, 2008 at 1:07 PM

It doesn’t matter if liberals come up with excuses for Sen Obama’s pastor. It doesn’t matter if the media, who have certainly known about this for some time now, purposely ignore it because disseminating such information hurts a fellow Democrat. All that matters to any reasonable person is Rev Wright is a flaming racist, hate monger, and I’ll bet has been this way since even before Sen Obama decided to bring himself and his family to this church.

Mr Obama has some very serious explaining to do, because I could never attend any church where my pastor says anything like what are in the clips. Why has Mr Obama continued to stay with such a church with such a vile person who leads it? Why does he donate very large sums of money to a church who has such a person as their pastor? Why would any reasonable person go to a church where the equivalent of David Duke with some Code Pink thrown in as a bonus pukes out such garbage?

Change? Change to what? More of that? I really want to know.

Weebork on March 13, 2008 at 1:08 PM

This racist, divisive pastor has been around for years yet has not received the proper amount of public attention. HotAir is making the effort to publicize it, hopefully one of the news channels will actually run with this and give it the proper spotlight that it deserves. Yet for some reason I feal that Obama is teflon… will this make a difference to the mindless mental midgets that have fallen under hs spell?

cannonball on March 13, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Here’s a good question, why hasn’t Fox News brought up this story already? If they’re part of the “new media”, then why haven’t they brought up this story until now?

Weebork on March 13, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Answering my own question: (To borrow President Bush)

Conservative blogs: doing the job the media won’t do.

Weebork on March 13, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Weebork, you must believe the MSM dribble that Fox is right wing. Except for Hannity, Fox is more liberal than ABC.

I think Brian Ross at ABC is much more “unafraid” than Fox. Fox is very PC and very afraid.

faraway on March 13, 2008 at 1:17 PM

To be honest here, I dont’ want to condenm Obama for what someone else is saying, especially when they say it on their own.

I dunno. I left a church I had attended for 30 years for less than that. Nobody’s forcing BO to worship there.

Bob's Kid on March 13, 2008 at 1:18 PM

I am with letget on this one. What is up with the GD’s being spewed from the mouth of a pastor. Thou shalt not use the Lords name in vain, is fairly important part of the Christian faith. That is a first for me. I am sorry but there is no way a believer in Christ can say GD as part of normal conversation. In anger it can slip, and repentance reguested, but just blatent use of the word is something I have never heard from a pastor, or any Christian I know.

chief on March 13, 2008 at 1:20 PM

faraway,

Thanks, and yeah, they have the same good ol’ boy networks and DC contacts that everybody else has. After all, by going too far off the reservation, like a true journalistic media should, they prefer not to upset their contacts and sources, so they stick to doing mostly what everybody else does (except they throw in that idiotic “BIIINNNNGGGGGG” “Fox News Alerts” chimes. I hate those.

Weebork on March 13, 2008 at 1:21 PM

This is looking like McCain’s race to lose. I don’t think the blue collar working class types voting for Hillary in the primary will vote for Obama in the general once this stuff gets out. This plus the Michelle Obama comments will really rub many people the wrong way. By the same token Hillary’s ascension despite trailing in pledged delegate will probably depress turnout among blacks and the obamessiah kool-aide drinkers.

phronesis on March 13, 2008 at 1:40 PM

The most delicious thing here is Wright made many of those really bad statements BEFORE Obama made him part of the campaign. Obama can’t run away and hide by claiming he didn’t know what he was getting, or that it was a mistake by his staff. Time for some dodgeball.

a capella on March 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM

blue collar Dems = Lieberman Dems…and remember who Lieberman has already come out and endorsed. I expect he may this years Zell Miller at the convention.

jp on March 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Obama’s only defense has been that he disagrees with some of the things that the Rev Wright says. I just wonder which ones he disagrees with. Can you imagine if this was the church of a Republican candidate. Matt Lauer and his Today show cronies would be in a wad…

d1carter on March 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Wait a sec. Did he say that Jesus tought him how not to be a bigot and a hater, but his “sermon” was about how bad white people are regardless of what kind of person he/she is.

I am really confused.

jharada on March 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Here’s a good question, why hasn’t Fox News brought up this story already? If they’re part of the “new media”, then why haven’t they brought up this story until now?

Weebork on March 13, 2008 at 1:12 PM

waiting till Obama basically had nomination locked up? to creat chaos on Dem side?

better question, why wasn’t the Dem establishment/media not smart enough to see this coming? Are they that politically tone deaf?

jp on March 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Reverend Wright; just giving voice to the things Obama cannot.

This is why Barry O. has appeared to have been so “above” the mention of race.
He has everyone else doing it for him.

4shoes on March 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Obama’s only defense has been that he disagrees with some of the things that the Rev Wright says. I just wonder which ones he disagrees with. Can you imagine if this was the church of a Republican candidate. Matt Lauer and his Today show cronies would be in a wad…

d1carter on March 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM

if he disagrees so much, why did he give over 20k to the church in 2006?

jp on March 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Nope, no recial identity politics from the pulpit here.

Let’s move along good sheeple.

awake on March 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM

if he disagrees so much, why did he give over 20k to the church in 2006?

jp on March 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM

You don’t suppose it was to encourage Wright’s willingness to use his pulpit as a political forum, do you? Perhaps it wasn’t intended as a donation to the church proper but rather more along the lines of a quid pro quo. Didn’t someone post that Wright drives a Porsche? OTOH, we know Michelle is a true believer. Are my thoghts too cynical?

a capella on March 13, 2008 at 2:17 PM

The clergyman is preaching similar to what Islamic radical clerics preach. Instead of looking inside oneself for both their better person and to not blame others for their own lack of success, they look outside for someone or something to be the villain, the cause of their problems or troubles.
Wildcatter1980 on March 13, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Yeah, but Obama doesn’t CALL his religion Islam, anymore; he now refers to the same theology as “Christianity.”

And that makes all of his racial hatred and screams of “GOD DAMN AMERICA!” perfectly OK.

logis on March 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM

thoghts = thoughts

a capella on March 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Obama’s Minister hates white people. It’s just that simple. Obama attended the church, so he must agree with the Minister. That’s how my logic rolls.

Wise Golden on March 13, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Hitler was driven to his hatred. It wasn’t his fault. Racist black people are driven to their racism through the fault of white people. White people are the cause of most of the world’s ills, and the oppression of most everyone else. Their day is coming!!!

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM

haha congrats on the surprisingly quick resortment to a Hitler analogy.

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM

haha congrats on the surprisingly quick resortment to a Hitler analogy.

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM

Farrakhan (Wright’s pal) said he likes to be called Black Hitler because “Hitler was a great man”.

Aristotle on March 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Feh. When you’re a preacher, you can say any vicious, hateful thing you want and justify it in the name of your god. (For more, see Hagee, John.)

Here, many (myself included) won’t care for the content of Wright’s remarks; but in principle, his comments differ not at all from what you can hear on Sunday in white churches all across America.

paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM

in principle, his comments differ not at all from what you can hear on Sunday in white churches all across America.
paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM

“GOD DAMN AMERICA!”

Of course I don’t mean to say that you are, in principle, an idiotic liar – but which church was it that you said you were attending when you heard that?

logis on March 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Since Obama is smart of enough not to reveal his agenda. listen to his close supporters.

RobCon on March 13, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Feh. When you’re a preacher, you can say any vicious, hateful thing you want and justify it in the name of your god. (For more, see Hagee, John.)

Hagee is not a racist, he’s only controversial because he beleives in Pre-Millenialism.

because of that party, he is one of the better representives of a strong foreign policy. He has a great thing I listened to on youtube about the Documentary, Obsession…which he distributed through his church.

jp on March 13, 2008 at 2:45 PM

haha congrats on the surprisingly quick resortment to a Hitler analogy.

crr6 on March 13, 2008 at 2:24 PM

You got me wrong bro. Hitler was a great man. But now it’s the Asians turn. There are billions of us bro, and we aren’t weak anymore. We’re gonna conquer the muslims, the blacks and the whites. Just wait bro. It’s coming. You may not see it in your lifetime, but your kids will!

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Bill did us just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was ridin’ dirty,” the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. said.

someguy on March 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Riding dirty. Did the pastor preaching from a pulpit on Sunday in front of women and children just say “RIDING DIRTY”? Which Scripture talks about riding dirty?

Did he also reference the disgraced President of the US breaking his wedding vows and going against the will of God when he effed Monica in the mouth?

What kind of cheesy storefront church does he go to? I’m a life time church goer, Catholic school, Catholic Univ, thousands of masses, never once have I heard a sermon where oral sex, ridin dirty, or God damn was spoken from the alter. Must be a “progressive” church.

Alden Pyle on March 13, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Reverend Wright; just giving voice to the things Obama cannot.

This is why Barry O. has appeared to have been so “above” the mention of race.
He has everyone else doing it for him.

4shoes on March 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I think you’re on to something. If you read Obama’s first book, he talks about his rage against The Man during his youth. (As a young black, he realized the white man owns everything; the white man controls everything; the white man can kick you and spit in your face if he chooses to, etc.). Obama married a woman who makes no secret of her resentment of and contempt for America. Obama has been a member of “Reverend” Wright’s church for 20 years. They have a very close relationship. Obama “borrowed” the title of his second book, The Audacity of Hope, from one of Wright’s sermons. Obama tries to distance himself from some of Wright’s more incendiary racist filth by saying Wright’s like a family member who says things that Obama doesn’t necessarily agree with, but Obama can’t control what Wright says. That’s bull. You can’t choose your relatives, but you can certainly choose which church you attend (for 2 decades). Obama has had a lifelong ambition to be president, and he’s an intelligent man. He knows he’ll never become president if enough American voters understand how he really feels about this country. I suspect he believes the same things Wright believes, but he can’t afford (politically) to admit it. Not yet anyway.

AZCoyote on March 13, 2008 at 2:55 PM

He’s right about one thing…
America is damned but not for bigger prisons and drugs…
that’s just part of the aftermath of abortion and the other abominations of the land…

TOPV on March 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM

“GOD DAMN AMERICA!”

Of course I don’t mean to say that you are, in principle, an idiotic liar – but which church was it that you said you were attending when you heard that?

logis on March 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM

As I said, the specific content of Wright’s comments may differ from what you hear in other churches. But nearly all of them preach hate or misery of one sort of another, and then justify it as “The Gospel.” It’s their stock-in-trade.

paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Man, he really does know how to love the hell out of his enemies.

I’m just not sure when everyone became his enemies.

Tzetzes on March 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Man, he really does know how to love the hell out of his enemies.

I’m just not sure when everyone became his enemies.

Tzetzes on March 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Actually prefer Hil over Barry now. Like a good dem, she hates humanity, but he just hates whites. Some people might take that personally.

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Anyone interested in a veiwpoint of members who do not like were the national UCC leadership has taken this once large and historic American denomination, see this blog.

http://ucctruths.blogspot.com/

Top story today is the Jeremiah Wright story. Other issues, Obama’s speech at last summer’s General Sinod and the IRS investigation.

Note: I am not connected to this blog.

AverageJoe on March 13, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Here, many (myself included) won’t care for the content of Wright’s remarks; but in principle, his comments differ not at all from what you can hear on Sunday in white churches all across America.

Hate to break it to you darling, but the church I go to would NEVER EVER say anything like that. Perhaps you’ve been watching too many televangelists???

mjk on March 13, 2008 at 3:29 PM

B. Hussein should be pounded relentlessly with this guy. Just put up a commercial with all this good footage and write at the bottom: Obama’s pastor…gave $20k to his church in 2006…Does Barak agree with him?

The problem is, we have to HOPE that Cankles uses this stuff, because we KNOW McShamnesty won’t.

Darksean on March 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM

My take on this story is found here

Shocking, but not surprising.

WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM

As I said, the specific content of Wright’s comments may differ from what you hear in other churches. But nearly all of them preach hate or misery of one sort of another, and then justify it as “The Gospel.” It’s their stock-in-trade.

paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM

When was the last time you were in a church?

74impala on March 13, 2008 at 3:33 PM

As I said, the specific content of Wright’s comments may differ from what you hear in other churches. But nearly all of them preach hate or misery of one sort of another, and then justify it as “The Gospel.” It’s their stock-in-trade.
paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Well, you are right about one thing: the left’s rabid, mindless hatred of Christianity only makes religious affiliation proof of evil when a Republican candidate is involved.

All religion is evil, ergo, the words “GOD DAMN AMERICA” mean the same thing as any other combination of words that any Christian preacher says.

OK, yes, that is completely stupid – even insane – if you stop for a second to think about it. But that’s a very big “if” when it comes to propaganda.

This load of theological insanity is used as an attack against any Republican for making even the most innocous reference to God.

…But the exact same propaganda is now twisted into a bizarre defense of a Democrat’s patently racist and anti-American theology.

logis on March 13, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I thought Hannity was being annoying and petty for bringing this up, but I am beggining to change my mind, given that we are now seeing how it fits into a broader context. Or maybe Rush is just that much better than Sean at communicating…..yeah, probably the latter.

Dirthead on March 13, 2008 at 3:40 PM

The Audacity of Bullsh*t

We need to make Obama answer for this. Any other candidate would have had to answer for this a LOOOONG time ago.

Wasn’t he raised by a WHITE mother? A rich one, I might add??

Conservative_SAHM on March 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM

but in principle, his comments differ not at all from what you can hear on Sunday in white churches all across America.

paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM

As I said, the specific content of Wright’s comments may differ from what you hear in other churches. But nearly all of them preach hate or misery of one sort of another, and then justify it as “The Gospel.” It’s their stock-in-trade.

paul006 on March 13, 2008 at 3:02 PM

I’d love to know where you’ve been.

There’s preaching of love of God and love of neighbor, repentance from sin (perhaps that’s the misery you mean), living rightly before God.

I’ve never heard a white preacher talk like this and I’ve been attending church my entire life: in the South, the Midwest and the Northeast.

I don’t even think televangelists talk like this. Any misery they speak of is probably in context of deliverance.

INC on March 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM

You’ve got to be kidding me. Please tell me you don’t consider the world’s walking and talking monument to evil “a great man.”

Ryan Gandy on March 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM

There’s also preaching of grace and faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. If there’s any sorrow from sin, there’s also great joy in knowing God’s forgiveness. If there’s any difficulty in life, there’s also help from God and other Christians.

INC on March 13, 2008 at 4:05 PM

Ryan Gandy on March 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Let’s just say that he and Wright would see eye-to-eye on many things. And Wright must be great, right? He’s Barry’s 20-year pastor. He is his spiritual advisor. He tends to Barrack Obama’s spirit and soul. Hardly an insignificant relationship.

JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM

I have been saying these things for the longest time. I didn’t hear Rush or Sean but it is soooo obvious, being part of a church for 20 years with a racist, Farrakhan loving pastor says VOLUMES about who you are. As was Michelle Obama’s thesis, her mind was on the white vs black thing back then.
Do we really need these people around? Especially Obama applying for the greatest position of all, President of the United States?
I have left churches for way less reasons. They have been there 20 years!! And since when is Jesus black? He was a Hebrew!!
And this is not what churches are preaching, if I went to a church and heard a pastor like this, I’d be out the door!!
He says he rejects Farrakhan’s endorsement, yet doesn’t reject his pastor, give me a personal break!

Conservatives R Us on March 13, 2008 at 4:16 PM

I’m like hoping that Barak Obama brings real change to America and without real change there will be no hope and without hope we will have no change for the future and the future is like not in the past and is like so not over like the past and I’m so into the future because Barak has inspired hope for change in me! I know that he may be a racist and a semite but I don’t care because I’m so like looking forward to moving on from like the present and the past into the future full of hope and change!!!

sabbott on March 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM

1 – i would imagine and expect that any tax breaks that ‘church’ gets will be revoked by the IRS shortly (and hopefully with a big fat historical back-taxes-due come-uppance).

2 – i would imagine and expect that the chorus of people howling for ferraro’s head because of her ‘racist’ comments had damned well better start vocally howling for this bastard’s racist head as well.

Midas on March 13, 2008 at 4:52 PM

OH.
MY.
GOD.

OBAMA is not “rich”?!? (seen that aerial photo of his mansion?!)
OBAMA is not “privileged”?!? (I guess a life of Affirmative Action doesn’t count…)

Yah. Uh huh………..

Somebody please tell this trash-mouth racist he missed his “calling” at the carny.

Lockstein13 on March 13, 2008 at 4:56 PM

If a conservative pastor had gone after Clinton with this much vehemence in a sermon, that church would have had it’s charitable status pulled before the weekend was out.

Another example of liberal double standards.

MarkTheGreat on March 13, 2008 at 4:58 PM

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