McCain holding his own in WSJ/NBC poll
posted at 8:06 am on March 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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John McCain may help Republicans buck the historic trends that should give the Democrats the White House, according to the Wall Street Journal and NBC. Despite voters wanting to elect a Democrat by a 13-point margin, McCain sits in a virtual tie with both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, indicating a large amount of discontent with the specific Democratic candidates. In this case, even a tweaked sample of registered voters doesn’t help:
A couple findings in the new poll capture how conflicted Americans are. By a 13-point margin, 50% to 37%, registered voters say they would prefer a Democrat to be elected president. When asked to choose specifically between Arizona Sen. McCain and either Democrat, the results in each case are a statistical tie.
Illinois Sen. Obama edges Sen. McCain by 47% to 44%, while Sen. Clinton, of New York, beats the Republican by a near-identical 47% to 45%. The poll, which surveyed 1,012 registered voters March 7-10, has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.
Chief among the strengths of the Republican nominee-in-waiting is his experience with national-security issues, as a naval aviator and longtime senator. “Americans can visualize John McCain behind the desk in the Oval Office,” said Mr. Hart. “The difficulty is where his policies are, and is he going to take the country where it wants to head.”
Of 10 attributes measured in the poll, Sen. McCain scored highest for “being knowledgeable and experienced enough to handle the presidency.” Nearly two-thirds of voters agreed — up 12 points from December, when both parties’ nominating races were getting under way. His next-highest ratings, from 61%, were for strong leadership and for readiness to be commander in chief.
McCain has strong likability factors in the survey. Only a minority of Democrats dislike McCain, and he has a +20 overall, 47-27. Hillary gets a 45-43 rating for a +2, while Obama gets the best rating of a +23, 51-28.
Once again, though, the sampling for the survey has to call some of the conclusions into question. The WSJ/NBC poll included registered voters, 11% of which didn’t vote in the last presidential election. That seems to undermine the predictive value of this poll.
Also, we have a repeat of the party breakdown issue. Thanks to the strange manner in which question 11a is asked, the demographics can be read a couple of different ways, but none of them come close to reality. Rasmussen shows party identification in the US as 38.7% Democrat, 33.1% Republican, and 29.2% independent or third party. This poll has 34% Democrats, but only 25% Republicans and 37% independents. It’s not as bad as the Washington Post or CBS polls, but it will skew the results accordingly.
Given those factors, a virtual tie for McCain bodes rather well for the general election. Even with Republicans undersampled, he gets within the margin of error of Obama and Clinton.
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Good that McCain can get head-to-head ties with so few Republicans sampled, bad that the Dems get a 13% advantage over him overall. It’s probable that the reason why he does better in the head-to-head is because some Democrats are still thinking about primary politics more than general election politics, and so Hillary or Obama is anathema to them such that they’ll even take McCain. However, I doubt such a phenomenon will continue past the point where one of the Dems clinches the nomination (barring some sort of voter fraud).
Math_Mage on March 13, 2008 at 8:13 AM
….while i’m holding my nose.
OldEnglish on March 13, 2008 at 8:16 AM
I hope he can pull in enough Indies to make up for the Cons who stay home.
O/T: Vets for Freedom, Pro-Troop rally, Tues. 4/9 in D.C., will include authors of “Hard Corps”, “Lone Survivor” and “House to House”.
Tony737 on March 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM
Conservative first, Republican second. I want qualifiers: “Are you a Republican that identifies as conservative?” (I don’t really expect to ever get them.)
Interesting poll, but I still think he’ll lose.
emailnuevo on March 13, 2008 at 8:23 AM
Both of which are awesome (never heard of Hard Corps).
emailnuevo on March 13, 2008 at 8:24 AM
“I hope he can pull in enough Indies to make up for the Cons who stay home.”
No “conservative” will stay home when they have a chance to vote against either Obama or Hellary.
I’d crawl over broken glass to vote against either of these people if the Republicans were running a stuffed bear.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 8:39 AM
Math_Mage on March 13, 2008 at 8:13 AM
emailnuevo on March 13, 2008 at 8:23 AM
I say, again, we only vote for McCain if BHO is on “their” ticket.
jerrytbg on March 13, 2008 at 8:40 AM
McCain has been getting conflicting appraisals from the Democrat candidates. Hillary keeps inadvertently pumping him up as she tries to ride his coattails to a national security experience nomination that most likely won’t happen, while Obama has been slandering him over his 100 year peacetime commitment to Iraq answer.
Interesting to see that he’s still holding up in the polls given that Hillary isn’t the prevailing voice in the Democrat primary these days. I think we might be overplaying the significance of the enthusiastic primary participation numbers as well. Is McCain still leading in crossover vote percentages? Last I heard he had something like 15-18% of Dems who might switch to vote for him, while only 10% of republicans would consider switching for Barack?
NeoconNews.com on March 13, 2008 at 8:41 AM
“I say, again, we only vote for McCain if BHO is on “their” ticket.”
So how long have you been infatuated with Hillary?
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 8:47 AM
(never heard of Hard Corps) – emailnuevo
It’s a great book too, written by a guy named Marco Martinez, who used to be a gangbanger. He joins the Marine Corps and earns the Navy Cross in Iraq. It’s mostly about his transformation from street punk to Marine hero. He talks about dumbazz libs like “Jon Cary” and his own stupidity when he was in a gang. It’s just as good as Lone Survivor and better than House to House. You’ll love it! Of all the books I’ve read on Iraq and Afghanistan, the best one so far is “We Were One” (Marines, Falluja) followed by “Jawbreaker” (CIA, Spec. Ops, A-stan).
Tony737 on March 13, 2008 at 8:58 AM
No “conservative” will stay home when they have a chance to vote against either Obama or Hellary. – NoDonk
Agreed, that’s why I WILL be there, even if McCain is not my first choice.
Tony737 on March 13, 2008 at 9:01 AM
I’m not ecstatic that McCain is the GOP nominee but unless he runs a lousy campaign or makes a legendary goof he will win in November. Unlike some here seem to think, the end of the Democratic primary process is NOT going to make things easier for the Democrats.
Case in point: a recent poll in Massachusetts shows McCain only two points behind Obama, who leads Hillary there. In Massachusetts??? Not only that, with Schwarzenegger campaigning for him in California, that state could easily come into play. If the Dems lose even one of the Must-Have Red States, they are headed for one of those historic and disastrous losses.
The picture for Congress is much less bright but that is what happens when you make yourself indistinguishable from Democrats.
If cooler heads do not finally prevail, the Democrats are headed for a bloody national convention and it won’t matter who wins there — the losers will come away angrier at their own than at McCain.
Stock up on popcorn and a favorite beverage in time for the Democratic National Convention — it’s going to be a hot time in Arizona.
PrairieWind on March 13, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Not so sure he has the old man incontinence under control as a liberal weenie bed-wetter.
If only a few percent of us stay home, it will cost him the election. He believes he can win without conservative support and has done nothing to court the vote after years of abusing the base. Stuck on stupid.
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 9:24 AM
JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 9:30 AM
“If only a few percent of us stay home, it will cost him the election.”
Who is “us”? Closet Democrats? Perpetual whiners, who secretly want a Democrat in the White House so they can bore everyone with stories about how great it was when Reagan won 49 states in 1984? Delusion-ists, who think that by losing now, it will magically propel us to our conservative messiah in some unnamed, future election?
Sen. McCain ain’t perfect. He, however, is opposed by two of the most appallingly ill-prepared dimwits in American history, when it comes to possible major party candidates.
Put Thing 1 or Thing 2 in the White House and give the Democrats a veto proof majority in Congress, and the Dems WILL set this country back decades, if not pretty much destroy any vestige of what it once was.
Real “conservatives” will not allow this to happen. I’m really tired of the hurt feelings brigade threatening to stay home on election day unless John McCain personally stops by to change their Depends.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 9:32 AM
No hurt feelings here. The federal government is such a behemoth, the president has limited powers to change it. This was Reagan’s great frustration. The only difference between McCain and the other side is he will appoint moderate judges who “won’t wear their conservatism on their sleeve” as opposed to radical Ginsburg-type judges. His judges will side with the left.
If conservatives are united against liberal nonsense, it will not succeed. When the leader of the party promotes liberalism, the lambs follow as in the Bush years.
Conservatism will be redefined such that we may never get back to a party that believes in limited government. Please name a single issue where McCain is conservative.
BTW, McCain wears Depends. Have you seen him waddle?
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Fair enough, but McCain’s deficiencies may not set us back decades, but they will set us back years. He may be a very good candidate, but he’s still a lousy choice.
JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 9:50 AM
“Please name a single issue where McCain is conservative.”
Um, not surrendering in Iraq? Actually believing in America enough to defend it?
This is absurd. Your type are the kinds of people who have completely marginalized conservatives in the UK. Purists who will take their ball and go home if they don’t get exactly who they want.
Realistically, we have a two-party system in this country. Hard core conservatives are only a section of the Republican Party.
The “let’s win by losing” strategy really worked well in 2006, didn’t it? Because we got more “conservative” candidates, right?
“BTW, McCain wears Depends.”
I’m really not interested in people’s undergarments, but if so, perhaps it’s because he had the crap beat out of him in North Vietnam. I’ll take his Depends any day over Obama’s underoos or Hillary’s jockstrap.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM
I’ve read in several places that British conservatives are leaving Britain in rather large numbers for Canada, Australia, NZ and the US in search of a more conservative home. Why not make America that place and compel our liberals to leave for places like Europe?
JiangxiDad on March 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Funny that the anti-McCain pseuds were telling us he was far too old a month ago: his experience and battle hardiness could now be some of his strongest assets!
Keep sucking on lemons. I’ve been reading your anti-McCain bile for a while now, and it doesn’t improve. Anyone who shrills that this is the only difference – ignoring the stark opposition between Mac and BHO/HRC on surrender in Iraq, military investment, slashing public spending, promoting tax cuts, Islamic appeasement, free trade/protectionism, cutting pork, abortion, socialised healthcare, etc. etc. – is unlikely to be capable of any worthwhile political insight.
Here Valiant, watch Tom Coburn’s thoughts on McCain. Now there is a real conservative whose opinions are worth listening to!
Pax americana on March 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM
A 100 year occupation of Iraq is all you have to show for McCain’s conservatism? Maybe a 100 year occupation with our tankers backing up in the Persian Gulf in exchange for Iraq liberation. How’s that working out for you?
No one but the far left believes the Dems will cut and run in Iraq. They’ll see things differently from the big chair. Also, I didn’t bring up the Depends, you did.
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 10:20 AM
“Conservatism will be redefined such that we may never get back to a party that believes in limited government. Please name a single issue where McCain is conservative.”
McCain gets a 65 on the ACU rating. Hillary gets an 8, Obama a 4. Please tell me how voting for an 8 or 4 is magically going to increase the chances of getting a conservative in ‘12.
Math_Mage on March 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Here is Coburn after the 2006 election. His statements are at odds with each other. His statements on McCain are trying to make Kool-Aid out of lemons.
McCain will reach across the aisle to achieve liberal ends on all the points you mentioned simply because he hates conservatives. All our choices are horrible this year.
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Carter—> Reagan
Clinton—> 1994 GOP Congress
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Completely wrong. Your ignorance of Democratic policy is staggering. Obama has repeated his desire many many times to cut and run from Iraq as soon as he can. He’s not the only one – Obama’s potential running mate has an equally drastic cut and run policy!
If I didn’t know your kind of shrew better, I would suspect you of being a Democratic troll.
Pax americana on March 13, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Carter didn’t make Reagan – his strengths were such that he could have won in any year he was standing. The GOP could have run a teddy bear in that 1980 election and won such was the depth of the Carter disaster.
No patriot would wish for this country to endure that kind of hell again, a mess which in the case of Islamic extremism we are still trying to clean up, just for the sake of sour grapes.
Pax americana on March 13, 2008 at 10:34 AM
I guess that’s why Reagan lost to Ford in 1976. The true blue party hacks went RINO just like the McCainites today.
My candidate did not lose as this primary field was a disaster from the get-go. At least Romney and Huckabee tried to court conservatives, even if they were lying. McCain affords us no such courtesy.
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 10:42 AM
“Carter—> Reagan
Clinton—> 1994 GOP Congress”
Are you one of those guys who hopes his football team goes 0-16 so they get the first round draft pick the following year?
Well, the Cardinals were terrible in Chicago, awful in St. Louis, putrid in Phoenix and now pretty bad now that they call themselves Arizona.
Losing generally begets more losses. That a couple of times it actually works out does not guarantee that it will work out every time, and it certainly does not guarantee that far worse things will not ensue.
Lose a few more elections like you people wanted us to in 2006 and it might be the end of conservatism in America.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 10:48 AM
I think it took him three tries, and he didn’t get the nomination until one of the greatest Democrat tools to ever hold the presidency pulled his first an only term.
DFCtomm on March 13, 2008 at 10:49 AM
I didn’t want to lose in 2006 and voted the GOP ticket.
McCain is different. He is hateful, dangerous, and the end of conservatism in America if he wins. We really have no good options this year.
Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM
No, but it isn’t conservatives that are the problem. We have dutifully held up our end of the agreement. We have supported free trade and lower taxes for the physical conservatives, but have the physical conservatives supported our social con issues? We are constantly told that what we should compromise on our issues, while they demand their issues be supported. It’s time for the physical cons to start to hold their end of the bargain, or we walk.
DFCtomm on March 13, 2008 at 10:53 AM
“We have supported free trade and lower taxes for the physical conservatives, but have the physical conservatives supported our social con issues?”
You have a pro-life Presidential candidate to vote for, who is being opposed by two “abortion as sacrament” idiots who argue about who has gone further to “protect abortion rights”.
Obama worked to defeat a bill in Illinois that would have permitted medical help for infants who survived an incompetent butcher abortionists attempt to exterminate babies in the womb.
Hillary, is, well Hillary.
This “we walk” argument has no real substance to it at all and makes me feel like I’m arguing with Democrats – pure emotion and no real evidence to back up this vitriol against John McCain.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM
For all of the strengths listed in McCain’s resume and his clear differences from Clinton and Obama on national security and taxes, I guess that McCain is the best choice come November. Independents and Reagan Democrats are likely to come to the same conclusion, thus the polling results at this point in the contest.
What bothers me most about McCain, however, is his obvious efforts to reach out and/or appease the Left.
The news article linked below describes a junket to Europe and the ME that McCain is taking with Senators Lieberman and Graham, ostensibly not as a presidential contender but for fact-finding purposes on international security. The other reason, however, gives me pause, for it has long-term ramifications for our energy policy and our economy. Neither of these issues is McCain’s strength. These three amigos will be discussing global climate change. At a time when serious scientists are raising well-founded skepticism over human’s role affecting the climate, how am I as fiscal conservative able to accept McCain’s willingness to jump on this bandwagon?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080313/pl_nm/usa_politics_mccain_dc
Will a President McCain use his alliances from his senatorial years to effect legislative change? Probably. Will America be better off for those alliances at the expense of conservative priorities? I am skeptical.
onlineanalyst on March 13, 2008 at 11:08 AM
To be absolutely honest with you guys, this was coming since New Hampshire.
Quite frankly, there has been quite a bit of disgust at the whole slate of Dem candidates. I have a friend in TN who didn’t go to the primaries because John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich were already out of the running.
So, as much as folks are bitching about Dems and independents choosing McCain, think of it this way: The fact they are choosing a Republican not completely odious to them (As opposed to Reps Rushing the vote for Hildy after downing a couple of beers and saying, “Dear God, let Rush be right!”) signals serious contemplation of previously Dem voters not voting Dem this year.
Sekhmet on March 13, 2008 at 11:19 AM
McCain can barely be called pro life. In 1999 he was against overturning Roe v. Wade, but now he’s for it.
Today he is for conservative SCOTUS justices, but he voted to approve Ginsburg, and has stated that Alito was too conservative.
Did you read that before you wrote it???
-Worked with Sen Kennedy on Amnesty
-gang of 14
-mccain finegold
I can go on.
DFCtomm on March 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Protect the unborn! Elect Obama!
62=4!
You can’t argue with iron-clad logic like that.
funky chicken on March 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM
How dare you raise doubts against the anointed McCain! The Politboro will not allow it.
Also, I would return McCain’s ACU ratings back to the holster as the gun is full of blanks. The trend is tanking as he gets
oldermore demented. Can’t wait for the 2007 numbers.Valiant on March 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
McCain is tied with BarackObama and Hillary Clinton — NOW???
…With both Democrats at each others throats. And with the media split in their support between the two of them. And with the media only now beginning its transition from “endorsement” of McCain to full-fledge rabid attack dog mode?
…And oh, by the way, how much money did McCain raise last month – now that he’s got the backing of the entire RNC?
Dude, November is going to be a bloodbath.
logis on March 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
You’re right, let’s give up now and start wishing really hard for our awaited conservative messiah to win an election, oh, let’s see, 2, no 4, or 8 or maybe 10 or 12 years down the road.
Then everything will be just grand.
Because although the Democrats are going to nominate an absolutely terrible candidate (inexperienced, corrupt and flaky), we have no chance of beating him or her.
So let’s throw in the towel now and beat the autumn rush.
Geez, with people like you “on our side”, it’s a wonder the right wins any elections in this country. When you’re not blasting our candidate, you’re thinking up reasons why we can’t win.
So how do you “conservatives” think you’re going to push your ideal candidate over the finish line? I mean, since the media’s against us and our candidates can’t raise any money.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Yeah, I would too.
Unfortunately, we couldn’t get a stuffed bear nominated….
LegendHasIt on March 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
“You”… “your”… “us”… “Our”…
Look at this; even your use of words is ambivalent to the point of incoherence.
Let me put this this as clearly as it can possibly be said: John McCain ran as a MODERATE “Messiah.” He courted only MODERATE support, and was actively insulting and hostile to the conservative wing of the Republican Party. So if the MODERATES want McCain to get elected then, of course, he will have to get the MODERATES to do it; he’ll have to get the MODERATES to give him money; and he’ll have to rely on the MODERATES to leap to his defense once the rabid liberal attack machinery swings into high gear.
We conservatives held our noses and supported Bush for 8 years. And McCain was our reward. Now a lot of us are simply done with that.
But don’t worry we’re still doing our part; we’re taking over the job the job you moderates have always done so very well: standing on the sidelines and idly making fun of both sides.
…As it turns out that’s not nearly as hard as it looks. Anyway, how are you doing at our job so far?
logis on March 13, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Several of the Republican candidates raised a lot of money. Unfortunately you* people ‘nominated’ the guy who can’t raise money because he is completely unpalatable to those of us who have traditionally dug deep into our pockets for even a half way decent candidate.
We told you in advance that McCain wouldn’t get our support. That’s OK you said: “We don’t need you. The independent moderates and the 500 remaining semi-rational democrats will make up for you dumb old paleo-cons.”
Don’t blame us for your mistake.
*You- it is the editorial use of the word you… I have no idea if YOU were an early supporter of McCain and therefore culpable in his getting to be the putative nominee.
LegendHasIt on March 13, 2008 at 3:20 PM
McCain is not my ideal candidate.
But the primary is over. This is the candidate we have.
Against a absolute disaster of a Democrat.
And let me tell you. This non-support can work two ways. If “conservatives” aren’t going to support John McCain vs. the Obamanination or Hellary, then it’s going to convince me that it’s the end of the Republican Party winning elections.
If we can’t get together to support a candidate against what the Democrats are going to offer, then it’s over and we have two many “principled” people on our side to ever elect a candidate to the White House or to ever have a majority in Congress again.
So I’ll just give up and do my best to deal with whomever the Democrats put up in the future. If our side is this fractured and this “my ideal candidate or the highway”, then what’s the point of even being involved or paying attention anymore? We’re never going to elect anyone anyway.
So if enough of you sit home and allow Hillary or Obama to sit in the Oval Office, someday when you find your ideal candidate that’s good enough for you to go out and vote for, don’t bother letting me know because I won’t give a hoot.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 3:29 PM
“We conservatives”
Look, I’m a conservative. Just not a “conservative”.
Not a moderate.
There’s nothing “conservative”, however, with sitting at home in a hissy fit while the nation elects either a corrupt and incompetent geriatric hippie to the White House, or a corrupt and incompetent juvenile delinquent.
“But don’t worry we’re still doing our part; we’re taking over the job the job you moderates have always done so very well: standing on the sidelines and idly making fun of both sides.”
Again, I’m not a moderate but for a bunch of people sitting on the sidelines, you “conservatives” sure are a noisy bunch.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 3:52 PM
I’m getting pretty tired of this stupid meme.
Nearly all of us real conservatives supported the closest to conservative candidate until it was obvious that he was not going to be competitive. Then we moved down to the next best, then the next best, then the next best. Finally we even got a little enthusiastic about supporting Romney who we didn’t believe was really a conservative.
Again and again we said that we could get behind ANYONE BUT MCCAIN (well, Most of us; there WERE a few holdouts who were indeed “my way or the highway”, but they were indeed a small minority). But you* gave us the one guy that we could not support.
The Republican Party doesn’t deserve to win any more elections. They don’t give a damn about the people who actually built the party anymore. Let them get their money and votes from the open borders cheap employees for business crowd and the globalists, and the reach across the aisle and make any compromise for a deal moderates.
LegendHasIt on March 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Get used to it. Seriously, what do you EXPECT to happen when inveterate back-seat drivers gain control of a political party?
Step one: grab the wheel;
Step two: turn around and blame everyone else in the car for what direction it’s heading in and how fast it’s going.
Step Three: if your passengers refuse to accept responsibility for your inevitable crash, threaten to give up on the entire concept of automobiles.
logis on March 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
“They don’t give a damn about the people who actually built the party anymore.”
You, Honest Abe and a few sturdy hands. Congratulations on that. Those were the days . . .
Anyway, back here in the real world, we have a choice this fall.
“open borders”
Oh, I see. One that thinks that completely overblown issue is of utmost importance.
Personally, my issue is national defense. I don’t want to see my troops undermined, abandoned and used as political tools by the absolutely worthless Democrat Party.
But I see where that could pale in comparison to the “dream” of building border fences across the Mexican and Canadian borders, because that really is achievable and unbreechable.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Again and again we said that we could get behind ANYONE BUT MCCAIN… But you* gave us the one guy that we could not support.LegendHasIt on March 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Hey, that’s right. Sure Ron Paul’s a raving lunatic but even if (somehow) that crackhead were nominated, we couldn’t have said he was the “least conservative” candidate.
So (assuming you don’t count Jim Jeffords as technically eligible) we conservatives got screwed AS BAD AS WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN SCREWED by the Republican Party.
So go ahead, blame us all you want. And hey, don’t let all our booming laughter slow you down one tiny little bit. Keep trying as hard as you can to lay that guilt trip on us. ‘Cause you never know; it just might work this time!
logis on March 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
Sorry, that was supposed to be a quote, not a lineout above.
logis on March 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
“Keep trying as hard as you can to lay that guilt trip on us.”
Not trying to lay a guilt trip. Just tired of your incessant whining and moaning.
Since you’re sitting out this fall, how about drinking a big cup of STHU and posting again after election day?
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 4:42 PM
I read these posts trashing McCain and eulogizing Reagan, and all I can think is wake up people Ronald Reagan is dead and gone and he is not coming back, making him a saint will not change that.
In truth Reagan was a realist, we could use some more of that instead of all this bitching about McCain when we have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on the Democratic side. Think about that…what would Saint Ronald do? Vote GOP for Chrisake.
Honestly, people can be such babies. McCain won fair and square so stop your crying.
BTW, McCain is tied up on Rasmussens
You want to know why Democrats are ahead right now? Gas is almost $4 a gallon, the dollar is down and all the Republicans can think to do is complain about abortion and illegal immigration.
Terrye on March 13, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Rudy
talks about McCain
Chakra Hammer on March 13, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Or, or… And this is just a thought here: maybe I’ll vote for whoever the Hell I want to.
Please let me know whether this is OK with you. Because I care very deeply about what you want. Really. Honest.
Jeeze. Can you believe these jackasses have the nerve to try and to call OTHER PEOPLE “whiners” and “babies?”
Can anybody even try to guess what in the Hell they think WE are asking THEM to do?
logis on March 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM
What does he have to do fellate you?
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Alito and Roberts are too liberal for you? Wow….
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Weve already had a Teddy
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Exactly, coalitions dont work when one group stays home because their a**es werent kissed properly.
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Speaking as a cenrtrist not a moderate, I only make fun of whiny asshats on the fringe…
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:45 PM
BTW NoDonk, you are my hero and it is great to see another squid come over from CQ.
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Ill call you a whiner, and you can vote for whoever you want while enabling the reckless abandonment of our troops to 4 years of liberal BS. Thanks, but your still a crybaby. Some of you “true” conservatives have such a ridiculous sense of entitlement it is almost sickening.
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 9:55 PM
So how does it feel, all you left-leaning Repblicans out there, to know you traded the support of us whiney conservatives in so that you could get limp-wristed flamers like this guy to back you up?
Oh yeah, you can definitely count on “Rock-Ribbed Republicans” like him to carry you to the White House. I mean, hey, what could possibly go wrong with a plan like that?
logis on March 13, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I am a “rock ribbed republican” I have campaigned for Republicans even ones I didnt care for, because I knew what was good for the country.
Being left of Atilla the Hun does not make me a left-leaning Republican.
Nice ad hominem attack, as I recall Larry Craig was a “true” conservative (since we are playing the “Gay game”)
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 10:15 PM
BTW logis, we carried your people to victories in elections just as much as you “true” cons did. Its a coalition, remember, thats what coalitions do.
Squid Shark on March 13, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Captain Ed, please re-check their arithmetic! Actually, McCain kicks b*tt against either Democrat candidate.
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This poll is a not-so-subtle propaganda ploy against John McCain by (biased liberals in the MSM? Shocking!) NBC and the WSJ.
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Correcting the NBC/WSJ cooked numbers definitely shows McCain beating either Obama or Clinton.
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Re-read the bottom two paragraphs. What NBC and the Wall Street Journal have done is a poll in which they’ve deliberately low-balled the percentage of Republicans in relation to the general population. The pollsters have deliberately significantly reduced the number of Republican respondents by 8.1% and shoved those numbers mostly in to the independents (where they are “in play” for the Democrats) and slightly into the Democrats.
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When one does the arithmetic to correctly compensate for this, McCain actually wins over both Comrade Hussein Obama and Hillary the Racketeer. Assuming McCain would get 90% of the registered Republicans (a pretty safe assumption, wouldn’t you say?), it’d be about 52% McCain vs. 39% for Obama AND McCain 52% vs. 40% for Clinton, with the remainder in both cases being the undecided.
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We’re going to see (and smell!) a constant flow of this anti-McCain/anti-Republican liberal biased MSM excrement between now and election day. We’re counting on Hot Air to help us cut through this to see the truth!
DavePa on March 13, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Hey, lighten up, I never said that your suggestion of offering oral sex and rim jobs as political incentives was “nice ad hominem.” All I’m saying is that, your idol aside, you guys haven’t historically been the most reliable Republican voting block.
logis on March 14, 2008 at 7:30 AM
Logis,
fair enough. However I was not attacking you personally.
Squid Shark on March 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM
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