Low-hanging fruit: Antiwar organizer hates the troops, America
posted at 10:05 am on March 13, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Of course, Kenneth J. Theisen’s column appears in the Berkeley (CA) Daily Planet, where the city council declared war on the Marine Corps earlier this year. The activist with World Can’t Wait, a group that organizes anti-war protests around the country, explains why those who claim to oppose the war cannot possibly also “support the troops”. In fact, Theisen goes farther, comparing the American military to the Nazi war machine and claiming that our “occupation” of over 130 countries intends on maintaining the US as the sole empire on the planet:
In the recent political battle around the Marine recruiting station in Berkeley there has been much confusion around the concept or slogan of “supporting the troops,” but opposing the unjust wars of the Bush regime. Many who oppose the Bush regime wars also say they “support the troops.” Let me say it straight out—I do not support the troops and neither should you. It is objectively impossible to support the troops of the imperialist military forces of the U.S. and at the same time oppose the wars in which they fight.
The United States has over 700 military bases or sites located in over 130 foreign countries. The hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in these countries are not there to preserve or foster freedom and democracy as the Bush regime would like to claim, but to maintain U.S. imperialist domination of the world. The United States now spends more on its military than all the other nations of the world combined. ….
We need to expose that those in the U.S. military are trained to be part of a “killing machine.” While not every member of the military is an individual murderer, they are all part of a system that commits war crimes, including aggressive wars, massacres, rape, and other crimes against humanity, all in the service of U.S. imperialism. The bottom line is that even if these people are relatives or friends, you can not support the troops without also supporting the objective role that these troops play in the imperialist system. …
But to decide whether U.S. troops deserve support you must analyze what they actually do in countries occupied by the U.S. The wars these troops are engaged in have the goal of maintaining and extending U.S. hegemony throughout the world. They are unjust, illegal, and immoral wars. Can you support the troops in these wars? Why is this any different from a German in World War II saying, “I oppose the wars launched by Hitler, but I support the troops of the German army which are making these wars possible.” When the Marines in Haditha massacred Iraqis, including women and children, would it have been correct to say I supported the Marines who killed those people, but not the massacre? This would be ridiculous, but no more so than supporting the troops engaged in the war that made the Haditha massacre possible in the first place.
Granted, this kind of lunacy speaks for itself, and it usually comes with this much misinformation or more. We spend more than any other country on defense, partly because we have taken responsibility for securing much of the world’s sea trade routes. That requires us to maintain naval bases around the world. The argument that we spend more than the rest of the world combined relies on official reports of spending, but in the case of Russia and China, those figures are much lower than their actual expenditures.
As far as occupation goes, the only country where that description could rationally apply would be Iraq, and even that’s a stretch. Theisen fails to mention that we remain in Iraq under a UN mandate, and we have now begun to negotiate with the Iraqi government for a bilateral security arrangement where we will remain at their request. In the rest of the countries in which we have bases, they do not contribute in any way to the governing of these nations. We remain in Germany, Japan, Italy, South Korea, and other places at the request and approval of their elected governments — and we would leave if requested.
But Theisen doesn’t want a rational debate. He has written a hate screed against the military and the American government that funds it. He tries to limit the latter to the Bush administration, but his Smedley Butler quote about being a “gangster for capitalism” reveals the political cast of Theisen and his organization. If all they wanted was the end of the “Bush regime”, that will come on its own in ten months. What they want is the end of the American system of government, replaced by another that will end what they see as the scourge of free markets and the free elections that have created this so-called empire.
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Isn’t it wonderful that the military he hates so much (partially) exists to guarantee his right to express his opinion in a public forum?
the goddess anna on March 13, 2008 at 10:11 AM
This clown is a fraud. If he actually had the courage of his “convictions” or really believed this nonsense, he would have beat feet out of this country long ago.
He’s merely an intellectual poseur who has found it fashionable to spout off this idiocy to the drug-addled morons who follow him. And to explain why he has no actual job beyond leeching off the country he so hates.
There is nothing here that hasn’t been cribbed from enumerable similar 60’s manifestos.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM
This is the definitive culmination of outrage. They FINALLY come out and say that which we have been saying since before the 2004 elections.
Snooper on March 13, 2008 at 10:12 AM
By jove, I think he’s got it!
fourstringfuror on March 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
At least this guy admits his hatred. I’ve always said that supporting the troops means wanting them to win, and the anti-war crowd does NOT want our troops to win. Such “lunacy” is also the best argument for free speech: let the idiots talk and they’ll reveal their idiocy.
erclimb on March 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
dood. can has noo iballs? mine fell out.
Math_Mage on March 13, 2008 at 10:13 AM
I began reading Kenneth’s “column” earlier, but had to stop for fear of losing my breakfast.
MrFreeman07 on March 13, 2008 at 10:14 AM
guy deserves a hollow point in his throat.
blatantblue on March 13, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I agree with that totally, I don’t think this hate will just end when Bush is no longer in office. And I’m so glad to see these _______’s (you fill in the blank) have finally come out and are admitting what they’ve alluded to the whole time. Maybe this will cause some to get a good look at where this country is headed and shock them enough to change course, though I’m not holding my breath on that one.
4shoes on March 13, 2008 at 10:15 AM
What’s the problem with this?
Why is it that to be liberal one has to be a loser?
jmarcure on March 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM
“Well, well, well! Well if it isn’t fat stinking billy goat Kenny Boy in poison! How art thou, thou globby bottle of cheap stinking chip oil? Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarbles, ya eunuch jelly thou!”
ronsfi on March 13, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Why would anyone continue to live in a place where they are so incredibly miserable? If he hates this country that much, he’s always free to leave.
Any bets on when that’s going to happen?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Et tu Brute on March 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM
how do we survive as a country? i dont understand how
we have all these diseases and open sores running around this country:
Islam
Journalists
and all the people like Theisen
blatantblue on March 13, 2008 at 10:19 AM
In the ADM Fallon articles, we discussing how Generals/Admirals should resign their position if they are unable to convince their superiors/President that they are naking the wrong decisions. They should separate themselves from the military, and refuse to receive any of the benefits they derive from their position, if they no longer believe in the mission. That would be the honorable thing to do. If this person doesn’t believe in America any more, he should either leave or take up arms and make this a straight up fight.
BohicaTwentyTwo on March 13, 2008 at 10:21 AM
This is more and more data to add to the thesis that liberalism is a mental disorder. They don’t need money in Berkeley. They need counseling.
Do any of these protesters have jobs? Or are they all on gubamint assistance? Why is it that they have soooooo much time to despise their own country?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 13, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Whoa, that’s a semantic no-no. We’re clearly occupying Iraq, it’s not a stretch at all. Just because some people have appropriated the term “occupation” to be synonymous with “Zionist oppression” doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use the right words here. It makes us look liek we’re in denial if we can’t call an occupation and occupation.
Enrique on March 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM
That’s a nice left-wing shocker, but doesn’t it make more sense to look at military spending as a percent of GDP? I think that tells you more about which countries are armed to the teeth and which are not.
Kafir on March 13, 2008 at 10:25 AM
That was an awesome example of Marxist cant, straight from the ’70s and ’80s. What a performance! The way he played variations on the theme of imperialism…. Bravo! Bravissimo!
It’s just too bad he couldn’t work in such Red favorites as “proletariat” or “dialectic.” That would have made it even more awesome.
Anton on March 13, 2008 at 10:26 AM
I have always found it very interesting that when the military is in town , such as fleet week these anti American cowards never have there grand anti war /freak show marches.
Mojack420 on March 13, 2008 at 10:27 AM
He doesn’t need to “take up arms” because he has chosen the political route. He has every right to express himself and his ideas for what he thinks would be a better form of government. What he doesn’t have is a right to not be challenged or criticized for those ideas. I personally don’t agree with the guy and think he hasn’t a clue as to what the country would be like if he got what he wanted. I believe that the majority of liberals should really take to heart the “Be careful what you wish for because you may get it.” I salute him for at least coming out and saying what he believes in rather than hiding it with phony rhetoric like the rest of the left does.
jmarcure on March 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Kalifornia …..
Known for it’s wine, and it’s whiners.
Take a hike Theisen. Make it 100 miles, due west.
fogw on March 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM
These are the parasites of the human race. They feed on freedom provided by the existence of the military without any contribution to the total good of society whatsoever. If they couldn’t find a way to draw attention to themselves, their existence would matter as much as urinating in the ocean.
volsense on March 13, 2008 at 10:35 AM
The Pax Americana is a boon for all the world’s peoples under its umbrella, because of the values of the United States embracing freedom and respect for the individual. Never was there such a beneficent ‘empire’ on Earth. If anything, it must be expanded.
MrLynn on March 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM
The Law Of The Jungle states that someone has to be top dog. Whom does this idiot want?
OldEnglish on March 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM
On the north side of the White House, across from Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a little park called Lafayette Square. Lafayette Square has some permanent residents, a group of protesters who demand world peace, disarmament, an end to war and urgent action to remove the worthless war criminal occupying the White House. They are not anti-Bush in particular: they were there during the Clinton years and they were also there when I first came to Washington during Reagan’s reign. They look like bums, they faintly smell, they are not particularly coherent in ideology and they are totally irrelevant. No one pays any attention to them.
And this is what Code Pink, Kenneth J. Theisen, Cindy Sheehan and the Berkeley City Council would be like if it weren’t for conservative commentators giving them ink all the time. Wake up, guys: these bozos are big yawns, they have no influence, they can rarely put a coherent paragraph together, let alone a political movement. They are nobodies. They don’t need their masks pulled off. They don’t matter. Stop writing about them.
Stop making them famous.
factoid on March 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM
“Occupying 130 countries”. That’s sounds about right. There are detachments of Marines at over 130 of our embassies throughout the world. Too bad 5-15 troops per embassy can’t really be considered an “occupation” (unless of course the population of the country is about 40 people).
Mack08 on March 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM
That’s because they have 2 brain cells and they’re both stuck on stupid.
If he were to be debated, he would be torn to pieces, not that he would even realize it because he is so blinded by hate.
Geronimo on March 13, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Iceland would be easy pickin’s to expand The Empire and have a foothold from which to conquer/annex Europe. They spend 0% of GDP on defense.
ConstantSorrow on March 13, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I’d like to come upon the woman holding the sign of the beheaded President… and simply sucker punch her right in the face… “How’s that for ‘peace’ bi-atch??”
D2Boston on March 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM
All Socialists are scum. Why?
There are only two types.
1. Those who think they will be in charge and can leach off the workers.
2. Those who think they won’t have to work and and can leach off the workers.
Anyone who plans to work abhores Socialism.
ronsfi on March 13, 2008 at 10:42 AM
~~A song comes to mind.
Bicyea on March 13, 2008 at 10:43 AM
As evidence of this, I offer you the Phillipines. And there are probably a few others but I doubt it. I seem to remember that when we tried to close bases in Germany, they screamed bloody murder because those bases were intregal to the economy of the local towns.
But Mr. Theisen wouldn’t care about the capitalist workings of an economy. He makes Karl Marx proud.
JohnnyD on March 13, 2008 at 10:50 AM
That was probably part of the reason we landed 40,000+ troops in Iceland in the early forties (boosting the island’s population by about 30%).
factoid on March 13, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Theisen’s a sad, empty-souled nitwit who’s using a delusional fanaticism to fill the void in his otherwise mediocre and meaningless life.
irishspy on March 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM
what a moron. What did Bush do? hop in a time machine and set up all those bases? The bases have been arond longer the Bush, and will still be around after Bush leaves office.
The more I read/see these idiots and their “American hegamony” BS, or their “Milatary and police are murderers! we don’t need them” I just want to pop em in the nose. Except that A marine may be walking by and see me attack the hippy and take me down. Then, once the police arrive I would be processed and arrested for attacking the hippy. And the ironic thing is, the hippy can still shit all over my country and my milatary and my police and not fear any reprisals, because other better men and women are their to die for his sorry butt.
Wyrd on March 13, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Yarbles indeed! No sack to sack up with! Theisen didn’t write this in a socialist utopia, he wrote it here, in this country, under the very blanket of freedom the men and women he derides provided him. What A Tool!
bcre8v on March 13, 2008 at 10:54 AM
I’m done admiring my enemies for…anything.
In other words, Stop Feeding the Trolls (even off the blogs).
urbancenturion on March 13, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Maybe we could all pitch in and buy him a one way ticket to Cuba or Vietnam or maybe North Korea… I hear that those are very nice places to live… free of all those nasty institutions like a free press and open markets and free of all those silly smothering concepts like Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness…
Yeah, let’s help this guy out. He seems so depressed. It’s the Christian thing to do.
Gartrip on March 13, 2008 at 11:07 AM
How absolutely delicious that the Marines have a base in Okinawa called…CAMP SMEADLEY BUTLER.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Does anyone think Thiesen’s head would explode if someone told him this? I hope so…
rotorhead on March 13, 2008 at 11:08 AM
…or wherever Martina Navritalova went recently (Czech Republic?)
urbancenturion on March 13, 2008 at 11:09 AM
That’s exactly what I was about to say. I would gladly pitch in to get rid of this cancer. I will never understand how someone can hate their country so much but yet continue to live here.
Erockk on March 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Get a clue, Thiesen you numb-nuts.
The countries you admire that are supposedly getting by without huge military budgets? Well, they aren’t spending the money because they have generally outsourced their military protection to us. It’s like calling yourself a vegetarian, but buying meat at the supermarket because you didn’t kill the animal yourself.
Sekhmet on March 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Truth of the matter is he hates himself and is trying to transfer that hate to the troops and the country.
TooTall on March 13, 2008 at 11:13 AM
The picture speaks a thousand words.
Those who decapitate equate to jihadists.
And Democrat Spitzer is the emperor without clothes.
maverick muse on March 13, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Even if you don’t buy into the American Imperialist meme, it’s “lunacy” to assume America will be able to maintain “over 700 military bases or sites located in over 130 foreign countries…” when our economy is growing so much slower than the world as a whole’s economy.
America’s economy is now only 19%(and falling fast) of the world’s economy.
When we started basing troops around the world, America’s economy was 50% of the global economy.
Time for another country, or a group of countries, to take over the job of being the World’s Policeman..we just can’t afford it anymore.
alphie on March 13, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Weren’t the Haditha Marines cleared? Or does this clown only believe in due process for terrorists?
fleiter on March 13, 2008 at 11:20 AM
I remember something to that effect, but can’t find where it’s spelled out. Can someone help with a link to somewhere that also mentions this?
wise_man on March 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Using a comment from 1933 to bolster his argument makes it sound as if Theisen is suffering from FDRDS (Franklin Delano Roosevelt Derangement Syndrome), which I believe is a first for someone on the far left.
jon1979 on March 13, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Double Double Schandenfreuden, animal style
At least its out in the open
Defector01 on March 13, 2008 at 11:27 AM
While I’d love to see this schmuck out of the country, I doubt there’s any country on this planet where he’d be happy; he’s likely only happy when complaining about something.
Frozen Tex on March 13, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Copied from the headlines thread:
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After listening to this sort of empty, soulless propaganda far too many times in recent years … I finally decided to do something about it. At the ripe old age of 38 and 14 years after leaving the Marine Corps, I’m currently in the process of joining our local National Guard unit. As a commissioned officer this time. Infantry.
If all goes well, by the end of the summer I’ll be a shiny new (yet rather old) second lieutenant. And the unit is deploying in 2009, probably to Iraq, maybe to Afghanistan.
I’m scared. And honored. Worried. Proud. Angry. Happy. All sorts of mixed emotions. But all I know for sure is that 18 months from now, I’ll probably be in the streets of Baghdad, an attorney and writer pretending to be a soldier, with not so pretend bullets and bombs pointed my way.
Yesterday, I spent the entire day at our local MEPS. That’s the Military Enlistment Processing Station for those who don’t have fond memories of such places. (That’s sarcasm, by the way. I have nightmares of my first trip there). But it was different this time. I knew what I was doing. More to the point, I’m older, wiser, removed from all the teenage angst and emotion … so I got to sit back and watch all these young kids.
All these young kids volunteering to go do the fighting. Standing up willingly to become the targets, not only of our enemies abroad, but targets of the simple-minded stupidity of people like those in Berkeley.
The kids I saw yesterday were the ones this gentleman doesn’t support. They’re his mass murderers, his cogs in the killing machine.
And I have just two comments:
1. He’s wrong. He couldn’t be more wrong. These kids are rough, sometimes uneducated, some have lived hard lives … but they’re good people. Your pride in them is well placed. This man is simply wrong. He does not know what he’s talking about. I can forgive his ignorance. He’s just too dumb to know better.
2. And I appreciate his honesty. He is an ignorant, traitorous bastard … but he’s both honest and right in his assessment of “support the troops, not the war.” If you hate the President, if you’re in Code Pink, if you march and protest … you do NOT support me. So quit pretending. The truth is better than the lie.
I’m honored to have the opportunity to go be part of what this man hates. I don’t mind dying for his right to spew such ignorance. But if I can forgive his stupidity, perhaps he can forgive my enormous pride in my country and in the young men who fight for it.
Professor Blather on March 13, 2008 at 11:31 AM
“While I’d love to see this schmuck out of the country, I doubt there’s any country on this planet where he’d be happy; he’s likely only happy when complaining about something.”
Exactly. The moment he arrived outside of the country, he would bore the residents silly by going on and on about how glad he is to get out of our country and into there and how wonderful it is there.
Then, after a few days, he’ll start complaining about little things that bother him there and pretty soon, about all of the people who hate him there as well.
No matter where you go, there you are.
NoDonkey on March 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM
This is an argument for marijuana to remain an illegal substance along with LSD and everything else these folks do in their spare time.
In another ten years this generation will be more worried about controlling their bladder than thinking with it.
Hening on March 13, 2008 at 11:35 AM
COL Jessup is how the left thinks the right views themself. A Few Good Men was Aaron Sorkin’s greatest Straw Man.
BohicaTwentyTwo on March 13, 2008 at 11:42 AM
I’m sure I speak for most (if not all) here;
We salute you, sir!
Frozen Tex on March 13, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Or in this case, objectively pro-terrorist.
N. O'Brain on March 13, 2008 at 11:54 AM
My comment from RWN:
Comparing America to other empires across history, we run what has to be the most incompetent hegemony of all time.
Hell, I’m paying over 3 bucks a gallon for gas, and I figure it should run 25 or 30 cents, tops. That’s if we were doing a good job stealing all that Iraqi crude.
N. O'Brain on March 13, 2008 at 11:57 AM
“with World Can’t Wait, a group that organizes anti-war protests around the country,”
with world can’t wait, a group that promotes the policies of the RCP,
malan89 on March 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM
If we are the imperialist power that this moron says we are then why haven’t we invaded Mexico and taken over that (corrupt) government so that we can ‘take their oil’ and make them refine it for us?
If anything, we’re losing our sovereignty inch by inch and are in free–fall when it comes to our ‘world domination’, well, just look at the plunging dollar. China will own us lock, stock and barrel, (the ME already does have us over an expensive barrel), and when the NAFTA Superhighway goes thru they will have achieved their goal: making us nothing but a consumer nation.
Theisen needs to take that slow boat to China or where ever his American-hating heart deems is good/bad enough for him.
Christine on March 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM
This may not be totally to the point of this “gentleman” but I would like to quote John Stuart Mill “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better man than himself”
Thank God for all of those better men and women who stand their watch and keep us free.
buddylats on March 13, 2008 at 12:06 PM
In a true totalitarian state, moronic goofs like Kenneth J. Theisen wouldn’t last 30 seconds.
pilamaye on March 13, 2008 at 12:07 PM
And if we concentrate our armies to defend this choke point, we can both keep the Europeans from gaining a foothold in North America AND keep them from receiving bonus armies each turn for owning an entire continent.
I say we do the same in Kamchatka, just to be safe.
James on March 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Thank you so much for what you are doing Professor, myself and our nation owe you and all those willing to serve in a just war (no matter what the lefty trolls say) owe you our unending support and gratitude sir.
Please keep us HA bloggers posted and by all means stay in touch because we know what you are doing is right and just!
God speed Professor…God speed.
Liberty or Death on March 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM
World Can’t Wait, the organization Theisen represents with this lovely article, is an organ of/front group for the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP). Link goes to Discover The Networks, an indispensable resource.
The RCP is a Maoist group dedicated to the violent destruction of America’s capitalist system. It’s also a bizarre cult of personality for its founder, a guy named Robert Avakian.
Other RCP front groups include “Refuse & Resist” and “Not In Our Name.”
Gilda on March 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Your post brought tears to my eyes for two reasons: 1) I get all emotional when I hear/read about people still volunteering to go off to war, whether they are fresh out of high school or seasoned veterens and 2) my own memories of MEPS makes me want to cry (I was scared poop-less).
Thank you for your dedication. My time for serving in the military is done (and my knee paid the price), but it only makes me appreciate those who volunteer even more.
the goddess anna on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM
THANK GOD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE!
At 31, I just re-enlisted active. We may see each other around, and if not… Semper Fi!
upinak on March 13, 2008 at 12:38 PM
the goddess anna on March 13, 2008 at 12:22 PM
LOL MEPS hasn’t changed.. I will tell you that much. Excpet no OBGYN check.. thank GOD!
upinak on March 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM
It is very helpful that such poison is not allowed to fester beneath the facade of a “but-I-support-the-troops ” Lie. Rather, twisted deranged thoughts, such as these, needs to be fully exposed to the surface light, for all to see.
The Left should be forced, by our unrelenting public questions, to openly embrace the logic of those underlying philosophies to which they dance and beat drums (and seek votes upon.) All of us here need to regularly write, not just on our cyber sounding boards, but to our local and national leftist-sympathizing dead- wood rags editorials, exposing such poisonous dry rot and challenging our fellow citizens.
“What say you?!!!”
Deb on March 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Hey wasn’t this guy in the hug-circle wearing a tutu with teh Code Pinko freaks?
KelliD on March 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM
You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don’t know what it is not to have freedom.
- Ms. Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Theisen was born angry, lives his life angry, and will eventually pass angry. It always good to ink these people, because he and others like him would be the first to betray our freedoms if given the chance. Our freedoms, and indeed his freedoms, allow free expression even dangerous expression to flourish in this great experiment called democracy. Because these freedoms inherently will bring out the worst and the best of people. It’s best to honor the good and keep an eye on the worst.
Kini on March 13, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Oh, thank God they keep all these people in one place!
The whole ‘Berkeley’ concept is brilliant in its execution.
May they always call it ‘home’ and leave the rest of the country in peace.
tree hugging sister on March 13, 2008 at 1:15 PM
The job of the military = kill people and break things
It never ceases to amaze me that the bleeding hearts think the mission of the military is like some big Peace Corps troop…
Wyznowski on March 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM
The Professor got it right. Best of luck man, make it home safe and sound!
Hootie on March 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Um, weren’t those bases already there when Bush took office?
BDS really is a problem for these people; I do wonder what they’ll do with their time if they get their wish at the Obamamessiah is elected…
KrisinNE on March 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM
It’s like Michael Moore said, they like what it could be, what it has the potential to be, not what it is. They like it so much they want to change it… or something.
Hootie on March 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I believe the Marines will be abandoning Okinawa for Guam in the next year or two. In general, though, places seem to like having US installations and US tax dollars providing for much of their national defense.
Blacklake on March 13, 2008 at 2:13 PM
True, it was. Theisen was not the only target of the “Tool” reference.
bcre8v on March 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM
What I usually say is that they “love” America in the sense that they have designs for the land mass, but that’s about the extent of it. It’s a bit like that old joke about France; from their point of view, the only thing wrong with America is all the Americans in it.
Blacklake on March 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM
❤ .Wow. ❤
RushBaby on March 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
“You grew up in freedom, and you can spit on freedom, because you don’t know what it is not to have freedom.”
- Ms. Ayaan Hirsi Ali
She is SOOOOOO right! I know it’s rather dated, but I’ve always kinda liked the old Vietnam era saying…
“America – Love it or leave it”
rtsidedragon on March 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM
I might point out that when France asked the US to leave after WWII, we did. Odd behavior for an occupier.
And if having a large detachment of troops in a country constitutes an occupation, the Germans have occupied us for years with their detachment at Holloman AFB, NM. They’ve been training F-4 Phantom aircrews there for years because the flying weather is so much better than Germany’s. You can go to some suburbs off base and everybody speaks German.
Tantor on March 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM
oh bite me. California is also Reagan country.
John the Libertarian on March 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Come to Reagan country; where the flavour is… ;D
Frozen Tex on March 13, 2008 at 3:03 PM
You quit blathering professor, and you reenlisted. Us, we pontificate… And some say “there are no real men left”, and “we are all equal”. Bravo Sierra. I’m seldom speechless, but you made me so. Your entire comment is printed, and it will be with me, forever. Never leave HA because your insights and wit are adored. You are our betters, and no one can convince me to the contrary.
Entelechy on March 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM
upinak on March 13, 2008 at 12:38 PM
unpinak, you’re in the “you” category too.
Entelechy on March 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM
It’s also been my home for very long. And California also gave/gives you Rose&Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Victor Davis Hanson.
Still, nothing diminishes the essence of fogw’s comment.
Entelechy on March 13, 2008 at 3:14 PM
http://worldcantwait.us/
Hannibal Smith on March 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM
So why are we spending money at all? Where are my slaves and treasures and why do I have to work? This empire stinks compared to the Romans we obviously arent being oppressive enough.
Resolute on March 13, 2008 at 4:21 PM
To our dear Professor Blather… I’m so proud to have been associated with you here. You are a true MAN. We will support you and stand behind you in your endeavors to keep us all safe.
Thank you for loving this country and its people so much.
Your, tickleddragon. (*big hug*)
tickleddragon on March 13, 2008 at 4:28 PM
And of course that goes for you too, upinak!
God speed and good luck to you. We love you and we thank you!
Another big hug from the dragon. :)
tickleddragon on March 13, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I’d like to come upon the woman holding the sign of the beheaded President… and simply sucker punch her right in the face… “How’s that for ‘peace’ bi-atch??”
D2Boston on March 13, 2008 at 10:40 AM
That was my first thought, but that would put us at her level. How about we showed her the video of the 14 year old al-qaida kid hacking off that guys head with a butcher knife.They have no clue.
gzelmiami on March 13, 2008 at 4:38 PM
It sounds so much like a parody of an anti-war statement. It`s hilarous!
ThePrez on March 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Pacifist can’t claim they support the troops – they disapprove of the very idea of a military. Thus they must disapprove of all of those who would contribute to such an enterprise. Enter the men and women who volunteer to put on the uniform. That, ladies and gentleman, is the reason why any pacifist is lying if they say they support the troops.
Seixon on March 13, 2008 at 5:16 PM
What an idgit.
But I think I see a Baraktard “at work”.
Also, can we ‘expel’ Berkeley from the Union?
darkpixel on March 13, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Easy.
Because people like Theisen know that deep down, although they’ll never admit to it, America is the best place on the earth to be.
And they hate themselves for knowing that. Knowing that they owe their existence to others.
So they redirect that hate, not by blaming their own misguided perceptions, but by taking that hatred out on those of us who freely embrace the greatness of our country.
Call it therapy for self-loathing through guilt avoidance by way of blame projection.
Et tu Brute on March 13, 2008 at 5:33 PM
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