Hillary now trails in the popular vote — even if Florida and Michigan are included
posted at 5:10 pm on March 12, 2008 by Allahpundit
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This was the rejoinder offered by our commenters to my “who cares about Florida and Michigan” post on Monday, you’ll recall. It’s not the delegates, stupid, it’s the moral claim to the nomination that a popular-vote lead would give her with Democrats still smarting over the Goracle’s loss to Bush in 2000. Well, here’s what Mississippi did:
She was pounding the table again today about either counting those two states or holding a re-vote (which may or may not happen). Granted, every little bit helps, but losing the popular vote narrowly leaves her with nothing except her claim that she can win the purple states that Obama can’t. As I said Monday, a re-vote in the two states is likely to produce a narrower margin than the first vote (if not an outright loss for her in Michigan). She’ll pick up steam next month from what looks to be a convincing win in Pennsylvania, and possibly regain the lead in the pop vote — and then lose some steam and the lead a week later in North Carolina, which has almost three-quarters as many delegates and where Obama already leads comfortably in most surveys, so much so that Hillary may be preparing to concede the state. (Which explains why he may skip Pennsylvania and devote most of his time to campaigning there and in Indiana.) She’s already lost all the delegates she gained by winning Ohio and Texas, which it turns out she didn’t really win. Remind me again, how exactly is she going to pull this off?
Update: Note that that RCP graphic awards Obama zero votes in Michigan because he wasn’t on the ballot. If there’s a re-vote, his total will tick upwards by several hundred thousand.
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Someone put a fork in her. She’s done.
pullingmyhairout on March 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Don’t think for a minute that losing in the popular vote and losing in delegates is enough to stop her from becoming president.
SaintOlaf on March 12, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Magick?
liberrocky on March 12, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I swear…If Florida and Michigan get a re-vote, I personally will go out and protest. What is it with Democrats? Election laws are treated so trivially by that party constantly!
Aren’t those superdelegates supposed to do that for her?
JetBoy on March 12, 2008 at 5:15 PM
It doesnt matter Hillary’s main push now is to cripple Obama in the general. She wants him to lose bigtime
William Amos on March 12, 2008 at 5:15 PM
With the theories about what “Kristen” would do for $5k, imagine what she might say for $500k….
rw on March 12, 2008 at 5:15 PM
It still doesn’t negate her “I can win the big states” argument for the electoral college advantage. Especially after she wins in PA.
August in Denver will be fun to watch.
Valiant on March 12, 2008 at 5:17 PM
It’s over Jonny. It’s over!
meandchi on March 12, 2008 at 5:20 PM
You Just Wait til she comes ridin’ into town on This!
The Ultimate Clinton Political Machine
serenity on March 12, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Yeah. She’s gonna try to leverage the “I can win the big states” into more Super Delegates and victory in August. IF that works she will then lose in November in large part because she would have stolen the nomination from Obama.
She’s in a bad position all around. Who in the DNC has the guts to tell her to quit and would she listen anyway???
Ordinary1 on March 12, 2008 at 5:29 PM
That’s never stopped the Clintons before.
Lawrence on March 12, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I wonder how many investigators she has looking for dirt on Obama. A scandal of career-ending proportions seems to be the only thing that’ll stop him now.
Not that I’ll complain if it gets nastier between the two.
Hollowpoint on March 12, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I hope she keeps running. Get more sparks flying.
cjs1943 on March 12, 2008 at 5:44 PM
They will have to pry the nomination for her cold, dead fingers. Errr, she doesn’t need to be dead to have cold fingers.
mountainmanbob on March 12, 2008 at 5:46 PM
There is no way in hell this awful woman will stop until she steals this nomination from Barack Hussien. No doubt she has already got the plans and evildoers in place. Barack Hussien had better watch his backside. She will stop at nothing until he is elininated one way or another. Dead or alive.
I really believe the Clintons are that EVIL!!!!!
Winebabe on March 12, 2008 at 6:02 PM
“But WE are the president!’
TooTall on March 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM
There is absolutely no way she will be the nominee. It’s just out of the question. The only rational reason for her to stay that I can think of is that Obama doesn’t want her on the ticket as VP.
freevillage on March 12, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Bill Clinton became president in 1992 with only 43% of the popular vote…shouldn’t that be enough for Hillary to win the Democrat nomination?
/sarc
Red Pill on March 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
I agree with you. And if something evil does happen to Barack, count on Hillary blaming it on a “vast right-wing conspiracy”.
The Clintons would take out Obama if they had to in order to regain Supreme Executive Power. I wish I were joking, but I’m not.
Red Pill on March 13, 2008 at 12:00 AM
If only for the benefit of my great entertainment, Medusa should stay in the race to the bitter end.
OldEnglish on March 13, 2008 at 4:31 AM