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Romney: Heck yes, I’d be McCain’s VP; Update (Ed): Why not?

posted at 6:20 pm on March 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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In case you were planning on watching Hannity & Colmes tonight, now you don’t have to.

Thus do very bad ideas gain momentum:

“I think any Republican leader in this country would be honored to be asked to serve as the vice presidential nominee, myself included,” Romney told FOX’s Sean Hannity in a broadcast set to air tonight. “Of course this is a nation which needs strong leadership. And if the nominee of our party asked you to serve with him, anybody would be honored to receive that call … and to accept it, of course.”…

“There are really no hard feelings, I don’t think, on either side of this,” he said in the interview. “There were no pacts and so forth that make people feel like that we will never come together. Instead these campaigns are all coming together. We are supporting our nominee enthusiastically, aggressively.”…

Listening to Obama and Clinton discuss their national security credentials, Romney said, is akin to “listening to two chihuahuas argue about which is the biggest dog.”

“When it comes to national security, John McCain is the big dog, and they are the chihuahuas,” he said.

Exit question: If a guy with three years in the Senate is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief, how is a guy with four years as governor of Massachusetts qualified to be a heartbeat away?

Update (Ed): I don’t think this is a bad idea at all, for a couple of reasons. First, Romney has extensive executive experience, both in and out of government. That could help McCain rebut the coming charge that he doesn’t understand economics. Neither Hillary nor Obama have any real-world business experience, nor are either likely to choose a running mate with any, given their populist rhetoric during the primary campaign. That gives the GOP ticket a clear advantage on both economics and executive experience.

Second, Romney proved he could both raise money and organize, two areas in which McCain comes up short. Both Hillary and Obama have done an impressive job in these areas, and the ticket needs someone who can match up against them — at least a little better than McCain can do. Romney can take over that job and put his team to work on building the kind of networks that the Republicans will need to win the election.

Lastly, Romney resonates with the conservative activists. It didn’t win him the nomination, but they wound up fighting for him at the end. He could help bring them back into the big tent. I see a Romney choice as a very positive step — and if Romney’s willing to do it, even more so.


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There are hard feelings. Mav, Huck, Fred, and Rudy all hate your guts.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Shut up idiot…

You are making McCain supporters look bad.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Held beliefs is not the same as morality. On this thread you have engaged in calling his a son a brat, for no real good reason…Paris Hilton is a brat, Romney’s kids are not Paris Hilton by a long shot; and have engaged in class envy. Hence I see you as a bitterness and class envy. Granted you haven’t engaged in it to the level of the Chosen One, but none the less you have engaged in it.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

F off. I was born to slam this loser.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

I don’t see this as the end of the world, but I also don’t see it as McCain’s best option.

When Reagan picked Bush after the 2000 primary, there was no question about his conservative credentials, and the choice of GHWB was meant to assure the moderate wing of the Republican Party than Reagan wasn’t the blow-up-the-world-on-January 21 lunatic the Democrats and big media outlets were painting him as. Plus, part of Bush’s negative baggage was the dislike many on the left had for him because of his association with the CIA and Nixon and his money. Not exactly disqualifying problems for a Republican VP.

Romney has the same asset/liability problems. Like Bush, he’s disliked by the left in large part due to his money and his past as governor of Massachusetts, a position they see as a Gaia-given right for Democrats to hold. But he also has baggage that people on the right are wary of, such as his health care plan in the Bay State and his past flip-flops on abortion (let alone his hinting during the Michigan primary that he wouldn’t be adverse to a federal bail-out of the Detroit auto industry). It was only the sudden rush by Rush and others to Mitt’s side after South Carolina in an effort to stop McCain that suddenly made Romney into the GOP’s new “Mr. Conservative”.

Combine that with the fact that McCain definitely does not hold that title, and a pairing with Romney would open the door to questions about the positions of both men by the media, along with highlighting their personality conflicts (not that the big media types would be sincere about caring if they strayed from conservative positions, but they would want normal GOP voters to focus on those differences).

So you’d get a candidate with built-in baggage running with a presidential nominee who doesn’t offer the same type of assurance to Republicans that Reagan offered in 1980. Better to have a VP with strong conservative bonafieds and a lower profile to run with McCain in the fall.

jon1979 on March 11, 2008 at 10:39 PM

McCain will get Ann Coulter’s vote. Enough said.

hadsil on March 11, 2008 at 10:39 PM

On this thread you have engaged in calling his a son a brat, for no real good reason…

I said he comes across as a brat, and I think it is a reasonable perception, particularly next to his father.

and have engaged in class envy.

Examples please….I dont engage in class envy, so you wont find it.

but none the less you have engaged in it.

Once again, examples. I opposed Gov Romney, I disliked some of his positions and the sudden love affair by people I dont much care for on the right and I do not care for his son who has had everything handed to him, yet still opens his yap and embarrasses his dad at every turn.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Held beliefs is not the same as morality.

Than define how a Moderate is a person without Morals…
You define MOrality in your statement as someone who sees things in black and white… I see most things that way.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Combine that with the fact that McCain definitely does not hold that title, and a pairing with Romney would open the door to questions about the positions of both men by the media, along with highlighting their personality conflicts (not that the big media types would be sincere about caring if they strayed from conservative positions, but they would want normal GOP voters to focus on those differences).

Remember this happened with Bush and Reagan as well.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:43 PM

McCain will get Ann Coulter’s vote. Enough said.

hadsil on March 11, 2008 at 10:39 PM

He doesn’t want it. She can stay home and do her meth.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM

A moderate is a lost and uninformed conservative.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM

A moderate is a lost and uninformed conservative.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM

I respectfully disagree…

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Squid, I re looked at your posts, and see that you didn’t engage in class envy other than calling his kid a brat, and saying he had everything handed to him…so like I said you aren’t over the top as the Chosen One, but I guess I over reacted.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Romney = Brains + Integrity + Accomplishment + Class

petefrt on March 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:46 PM

No wonder you like Romeney, you can’t stick to one position either.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:42 PM

I am going by the strict definition of a moderate…someone who can’t make up their mind until the last minute, because they are trying to be “open minded”.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Man, I’m glad that interview is over. I was about to get dizzy and lose my dinner.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM

What are they then..lost and uninformed liberals?

Liberals by definition are lost and uninformed.

Moderates are conservatives at heart who have been fooled by some liberal propaganda.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:47 PM

So a person who admits he is wrong is someone who doesn’t stick to his positions? What a jerk.

You know before I was against banning you, but you have earned my vote to be voted off the island.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM

You know malan89 the old saying - they came for the jews, etc., etc., so how does it feel to be the object of the evangelicals, after they finished with the Mormons? Not many of you stood up for them, and we still have the haters posting on this post. I’ve criticized allapundit above, but I appreciate him\her refusing to allow that nasty kind of comments. So thank you.

Bambi on March 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM

kid a brat, and saying he had everything handed to him…

And once again, this is my perception. Mitt had alot handed to him as well, but he seems to be a little more gracious for what america has given him.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM

I appreciate it though.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Are you sure?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM

OK I will rephrase to “center-rightist”…

But mostly rightish…

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Man, this guy must made a HUGE donation to a charity of Hannity choice.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Ok,squid can you give me a clear example how his kid is a Paris Hilton, because you totally lost me on this whole brat thing.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Jews are a race. Mormons and homosexuals are mormons and homosexuals by choice..there is a huge difference.

You are deliberately being dishonest and worse by equating Christians with nazi’s. Shame on you bambi.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Moderates are conservatives at heart who have been fooled by some liberal propaganda.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:48 PM

I dont buy propaganda at all, either Rush’s, NPR’s, Fox’s or the Alphabet networks.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Mitt Romnee, would you ever consider another run?

Did Hannity really just ask him that? I’m gonna be sick.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Am I sure that you should be voted off? Yes, I have grown tired of your trolling.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Ok,squid can you give me a clear example how his kid is a Paris Hilton, because you totally lost me on this whole brat thing.

Perhaps brat is the wrong word.

I used it to draw the contrast with his father.

Pale shadow of a good man…

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM

No wonder you have morals than, its that mostly righty part :)

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

You’re right. Neither do I.

I think a moderate by definition is a conservative who believes abortion is ok and gay marriage is ok hence my analysis regarding moderates accepting liberal propaganda.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Am I sure that you should be voted off? Yes, I have grown tired of your trolling.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Concur…

You are an obnoxious troll and probably not even a McCain supporter, trying to sow some discord? stir up old wounds?

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Your just frustrated that your days of churning butter and covered wagons on the back forty are over.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:00 PM

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:58 PM

You see, I am not party to those positions.

Is abortion OK? No.
Is the solution outright illegalization? No not in my opinion.

Gay Marriage OK? Nope but I have a complicated position, I dont think the govt should be in the marriage business at all.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:01 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Is that the best you can do, compare me to the Amish? Your understanding of what Conservative means is terrible, but I will give you a curve ball, it means being a classic liberal…how’s that for a head spin troll.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM

If it is not ok and is murder it should be illegal right?

I do agree that the government should not be in the business of changing the definition of marriage to allow gay marriage.

Maybe you are mischaracterizing yourself with the moderate label?

Maybe conservative independent is more fitting.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM

Being conservative is tired and dated. Moderation is where its at dude.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:12 PM

Being conservative principled is tired and dated. ModerationPerpetual selling out is where its at dude.

VOTE MCCAIN! He’ll sell you all down the river and make nice with the other party!

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:12 PM

FTFY.

BKennedy on March 11, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Romney as Veep? I’d go for that…

CP on March 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM

Ok Chosen one, convince me, what does it mean to be conservative, why is it outdated? And what does it mean to be a moderate, and why is that where its at? dude. If you can’t tell me, then you are a troll.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM

If it is not ok and is murder it should be illegal right?

I am not sold on the murder part…

My religion didn’t give me guidance on this. Judaism is a little vauge.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:29 PM

st oaf, I did not compare Christians to nazis. Shame on you! Of course being a Mormon is a choice - a great Christian (I knew that would get you)choice. We don’t try and denigrate you, but I notice that you go after the Mormons and apparently you are now starting on the Catholics. I guess the Jews will be next.
But nice try comparing the Mormons to homosexuals.

Bambi on March 11, 2008 at 11:31 PM

I lived in Massachusetts during Romney’s brief gig as the head salon at the State House. I rallied against sycophants regurgitating Rush Limbaugh on any number of blogs i.e. “Romney is the Conservative” choice while throwing McCain under the bus. I know of Mitt Romney. He’s more Conservative in his bones than McCain but barely and not as much, in some respects. He does, however, have balls. He didn’t kiss ass in Massachusetts like Bill Weld and he told the “machine” in the personage of Billy Bulger to go pound sand. He didn’t kiss anyones ring in that toilet of union old school Boss Tweed Democrat Politics. He’s a good guy and smarter than almost anyone in any room. None of that matters unless people see that in him. Will they see it is the only real question.

AYNBLAND on March 11, 2008 at 11:32 PM

I guess the Jews will be next.

Better not, Ill go all William F Buckley on your ass.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:33 PM

He’s a good guy and smarter than almost anyone in any room. None of that matters unless people see that in him. Will they see it is the only real question.

I agree

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Colbert just did a great set on “settling” for John McCain. Funny.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I think McCain-Feingold is terrific, McCain-Kennedy a practical approach to a enormous problem, I don’t care about gay marriage, because even conservatives have made a mockery of the institution, prayer in school isn’t necessary because you have these things called churches, and I believe in sex education so one out of every four teen girls doesn’t have an std. Hmmmm I’ll get back to you later on the rest, but i’m watching Colbert.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Squid - try cleaning up your language.

Bambi on March 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Just as long as he goes the way of Jack Kemp after he lost his VP bid. Many people lie about their racism in polls but not so much with Mormonism. Yes they are bigots but they are a lot of voters. Romney cannot win any time soon due to this. I don’t like him because he is not really a conservative and conservatives know this because they didn’t fall behind him until the end. He was viewed as more conservative than Huck and McDole, which means nothing, but if he was it was only marginally. Many have short memories. If Romney comes around in 2012 we will lose again. This is like running a black candidate in the 70s to early eighties, nice sentiment, but you obviously don’t care about winning. You cannot wish bigots away, I have tried that already.

LevStrauss on March 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM

Bambi on March 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Apologies Bambi….tukus :)

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 11:58 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Still haven’t defined what it means to be conservative and what it means to be moderate, and why conservatives are outdated and moderates are the future.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM

LevStrauss on March 11, 2008 at 11:57 PM
“You cannot wish bigots away”

And you never will get rid of them until they are exposed and humiliated. Romney was getting as many if not more votes from Huck’s “people” so I still have faith in my fellow Americans.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:03 AM

IMO, McCain doesn’t have much choice here.

Triceratops has spent the last eight years telling social conservatives and real evangelicals (not Huckabee) to f**k off. Allah and the so-called moderates in the blogosphere smeared everybody but Triceratops in their posting. The Rudy/McCain wing of the GOP rigged the primaries so that the social conservatives and evangelicals were disenfranchised.

All that hatred by the Rudy/McCain/Allah (representative of those who stoked the faith issues to torpedo Romney) wing of the party is coming back in spades. McCain is unelectable because he is an old bitter liberal. Nobody in the GOP really believes he has a conservative bone in his withered old body. There is no passion behind his candidacy. The McCain event here in New Orleans last weekend seemed more like bingo and an early bird special at the local VFW compared to the passion and youth at Obama rallies.

Romney as VP would do much to erase eight years of “f**k off” by the candidate. It would also temper some of those (including many posters here) who care more about revenge against social conservatives and evangelicals than winning the election.

highhopes on March 12, 2008 at 12:07 AM

Is that the best you can do, compare me to the Amish? Your understanding of what Conservative means is terrible, but I will give you a curve ball, it means being a classic liberal…how’s that for a head spin troll.

Conservative Voice on March 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM

There must be a theme here. Chosen One calls anybody to the right of Nancy Pelosi as being Amish. Last exchange I had with him/her ended with me commenting that I needed to get back to churning butter before the kinfolk came back from plowing the front forty acres.

I agree with you completely that classic liberalism is front and center in what it means to be a “conservative” these days.

highhopes on March 12, 2008 at 12:11 AM

The Rudy/McCain wing of the GOP rigged the primaries so that the social conservatives and evangelicals were disenfranchised.

Ahh the vast centre-right conspiracy…cause we have such a vast power base…arent you guys the ones who keep telling us that we arent important to the party and we should just shut up..thats what Ive been hearing for the last 8 years.

McCain is unelectable because he is an old bitter liberal.

Try telling the kids over at Democratic Underground the McCain is a liberal…what a stupid meme.

The McCain event here in New Orleans last weekend seemed more like bingo and an early bird special at the local VFW compared to the passion and youth at Obama rallies.

Nothing like blatant ageism.
Old folks are the most dependable voting bloc, so are Cubans.
Young kids will loose interest after spring break.

Remember the last time there was a huge youth vote? Yeah McGovern.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:03 AM

Amen, it is still tough to get acceptance in some Republican circles down here in N Florida because I am an observant Jew, but its getting noticably better.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:15 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:13 AM

Squid, you are more familiar with Florida politics than I am, why did the Cubans fall in-line for McCain?

Also, I agree that using McCain’s age against him is a mistake. They said the same thing about Reagan.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:03 AM

It’s not just “Huck’s people”, even secular people are bigoted against Mormons. Yeah right, the Republican Establishment will push Romney as the “conservative” candidate so they can say I told you so after McDole crashes and burns. Rockefeller’s run the party, they try to both chastise the conservatives and make them docile. Go ahead, commit political suicide and once the hate crimes get passed maybe Flake will win in 16 years to end the drought, after he has been broken in.

LevStrauss on March 12, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:15 AM

That is a shame, as I consider the Jewish to be family ( I am LDS ), and consider Israel our little sister. Glad to hear that at least it is getting better.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:21 AM

LevStrauss on March 12, 2008 at 12:18 AM

I agree, but the secularists view anyone who is religious with distrust. Which is why we need to band together, and stop with the in-fighting.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Squid, you are more familiar with Florida politics than I am, why did the Cubans fall in-line for McCain?

Several reasons, McCain talks a big game on Castro, Miami is the only city in the country with its own foreign policy. EVERY officer down there is about who hate Castro most, including dogcatcher.

McCain has the support of the two biggest Cuban fish in the Barrel, Ileana Ros-Liethen and Mel Martinez. He was very engaged in the Cuban Community and had a good organization down there. He knows how to engage latino voters being from a border state and he has a pretty good history on taking a hard line on the Castro Regime.

Also Mitt helped alot but using Castro’s sign off line in a speech about free Cuba to a bunch of ex-pats and Bay of Pigs vets.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:25 AM

consider Israel our little sister.

Thats a heck of a little sister. Most of my best friends from college are IDF, scary guys.

BTW I love the LDS crowd, I was a religions major in college and I was always impressed by the rise of a uniquely American faith.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:25 AM

So they don’t want Cuba to be free? And I thought there was infighting among the Cubans and the Mexicans? I have to admit the cuban vote really surprised me, because they are a very conservative bunch.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:29 AM

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Not likely in some circles.

I remeber in 2000 someone said to me “I cant imagine voting for someone who does not believe Jesus is our Lord and savior”
(referring to Leiberman of course).

Sent a chill up my spine.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Chuckle, yes, and I’m glad they are on our side. My best vacation ever was Israel last year ( I live in Hawaii ). Was amazed at how pro-American they are, and was sad when I talked to some of the military back there that they are also realists and know that even though they have America’s back, we can’t be trusted to have theirs.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:34 AM

So they don’t want Cuba to be free?

No no, I think Mitt just got a bad feed. I was at the rally, it went over like a fart in church. He really had the crowd and then. “ Patria o muerte, venceremos! ” (”Fatherland or death, we shall overcome”) which was how Fidel always closed his speeches. THe crown went dead, and then the mumbling started….

I was worried he was going to get taken out and beaten.

Cubans are fickle, they are conservative but like everyone, they have their price. Romney could not connect, they wanted a tough guy this year.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:30 AM

That sends chills up mine as well. I can see not voting for Lieberman because you don’t agree with his politics, but his religion? Man.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:37 AM

And I thought there was infighting among the Cubans and the Mexicans?

They both hate the PR’s and Hatians more.

Cubans dont get into the fighting that alot of the other Hispanic nationailities do. Their biggest beef is with the Puerto Ricans because they are the two oldest communities.

Cubans arent competing with Mexicans for the low income jobs which is the big reason for the fighting among Mexicans and say..Guatemalans.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:38 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Wow, someone didn’t do their homework.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Wow, someone didn’t do their homework.

Your telling me, when I met him at UNF, I asked him about it and he turned red and just smiled and shook his head.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:42 AM

That is even more amazing, I am surprised that he didn’t do his homework…as that is his strength, even more surprised he didn’t try to correct the rift.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:13 AM

You truly have no clue about what is going on around you. b I guess being an “observant Jew” makes you blind to political reality.

arent you guys the ones who keep telling us that we arent important to the party and we should just shut up..thats what Ive been hearing for the last 8 years

.

No, actually the reverse was true. Evangelicals and social conservatives were tolerant of liberals like you. GWB was elected despite the best efforts of people like you. Evangelicals and social conservatives never sought the revenge and ideological cleansing of people like you. GWB honored the entire spectrum of party opinion. Many times to the outrage of people like me.

John McCain, like you, wants me to f**k off because I oppose amnesty, support jurists like Alito and Roberts, and have a faith-based view of the world. I’m not going to vote for McCain without some assurance that the party won’t become a mirror image of the hate expressed by you and Allah (among others) toward social conservatives.

highhopes on March 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM

It seems simple enough, “flip your finger” at Castro…and talk about how Clinton was totally wrong in sending that boy back to Cuba. That would of sealed the deal.

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Oh my god, I wish you moderates would just admit that your beliefs are more aligned with the democrats.Quit being wishy washy, take a stand for once on something and be honest. Please enlighten us to how you’re not democrats. We conservatives know what we stand for, what the hell do you guys stand for?

kongzilla on March 12, 2008 at 12:50 AM

highhopes on March 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM

After talking with Squid, I don’t see him being all that hateful

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:50 AM

I think McCain-Feingold unconstitutionally infringing the citizenry’s 1st Amendment Rights is terrific, McCain-Kennedy a practical approach to a enormous problem failed attempt to futher erode national sovereignty for the sake of cheap lawn-care, I don’t care about gay marriage, because even conservatives have made a mockery of the institution I’m too obtuse to understand the difference between the social, economic, and small-government conservatisms, prayer the Free Exercise Clause of the 1st Amendment in school isn’t necessary because you have these things called churches, and I believe in sex education so one out of every four teen girls doesn’t have an std will be surprised when they learn that latex condoms didn’t stop them from getting HPV or HIV.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Fixed that for ya.

Harpazo on March 12, 2008 at 12:52 AM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:33 PM

Shut up idiot…

You are making McCain supporters look bad.

Squid Shark on March 11, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Too Late.

Branch Rickey on March 12, 2008 at 12:53 AM

Evangelicals and social conservatives were tolerant of liberals like you.

I am not a liberal, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

GWB was elected despite the best efforts of people like you.

You mean since I had the audacity to vote against him in the primary, the fact that I was one of the 500 voters who gave Bush the victory in FL in 2000 means that he got elected despite my efforts give me a break.

Many times to the outrage of people like me.

That says alot about you, like you do not respect the coalition that made t
his party great, the house that Reagan Built.

John McCain, like you, wants me to f**k off because I oppose amnesty

I dont want to tell you any such thing, I merely point out the irony of you “purists” pitching a fit while the rest of the party took it from you guys for a long, long time.

BTW, I oppose amnesty too, and am a big fan of the fence.

support jurists like Alito and Roberts

McCain supported both of these judges quite vocally in their confirmations.

nd have a faith-based view of the world. I

I have a very faith-based view of the world, my faith and my politics are generally exclusive except on moral issues (which occasionally lead me away from republicans). Faith colors my morality but does not drive my politics.

party won’t become a mirror image of the hate expressed by you and Allah (among others) toward social conservatives.

What hate? you sound like a liberal, always hyperbolizing everything into hate…geesh. I dont hate you, I disagree with you. It seems that your feelings are far stronger towards my “kind” whatever that is supposed to be.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Oh my god, I wish you moderates would just admit that your beliefs are more aligned with the democrats.Quit being wishy washy, take a stand for once on something and be honest.

Ive taken plenty of stands and been accused of all sorts of things on this board by the purists. Just look at the waterboarding thread.

Please enlighten us to how you’re not democrats. We conservatives know what we stand for, what the hell do you guys stand for?

I stand for much of what you do.
Strong National Defense
Service to my country
Aggresively pursuing terrorists, preserving civil liberty at home
I believe in fighting the GWOT without loosing our moral Compass (I agree with McCain on Torture and support closing the GTMO detainee camp).

I supported the surge.

I do not support gay marriage but oppose a consitutional amendment.

I oppose abortion but think that a drastic shift towards a culture of life in this country is needed before the practice in illegalized and massive blowback ensues.

I support vouchers.

I support privatizing social security.

I support an Apollo-Manhattan Project to get us off oil (not just foreign) forever.

I am a huge believer that the Republican Party has a far too kneejerk reaction to environmental reform. I support efforts to fuse private and government enterprise to set an example for the rest of the world for how to protect natural resources properly.

I support tax cuts only when coupled with massive spending cuts and entitlement reform. (both which are needed)

I cant think of anything else but I am awful tired.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Appreciate it.
I have enjoyed our chat.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 1:10 AM

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 12:48 AM

Slightly more involved than that, but not much.

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Squid Shark on March 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Many of those things are conservative / libertarian which is where I tend to be.
Though I disagree with Gitmo. It shouldn’t be closed just because of bad press, anymore should any prison close because of a bad guard or two. Its a building.
And McCain voted against drilling in Anwar, we need to drill for more oil.

On a similar note…where buildings are symbols…come on NY how long is it going to take to rebuild a bigger version of the twin towers with a big in your face red white and blue bulls eye up the sides?

Conservative Voice on March 12, 2008 at 1:21 AM

I don’t think Romney would help McCain at all. We can find a real conservative (not a Johnny come lately) who could help assuage us right wingers.

Mojave Mark on March 12, 2008 at 1:25 AM

the Romney boyz running around playing cops and robbers dressed in argyles and those ridiculous prep school beanies with propellers on top.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 8:06 PM

You mentioned this on previous post. Dude, what’s your problem with argyle socks?

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:26 AM

The Romney’s believe their destined to be in power. I didn’t like the Kennedy’s, the Royal Family in Britian, The Rominees, and the rest of these famalies who believe that their last name makes them qualified.

By the way I’m not exactly broke.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Hey, big spender. The Royal Family? (hee-hee)

By the way, it’s Kennedys and Romneys, no apostrophe.

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:29 AM

Mav earned it and you know it. He should have been the nominee in 2000, but another aristocracy won it due to saying he fathered a bastard black child.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Nobody has earned the presidency. The people give it to whom they choose.

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:30 AM

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/11/conservative-illuminati-meet-to-decide-is-mitt-the-chosen-one/
Notice the title, disgraceful.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM

“Conservative Illuminati Meet to Decide…”

Mitt, is that you making all these anti-Mitt posts?

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:34 AM

I’m gonna be sick.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Dude, you’ve been sick for a long time.

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:37 AM

Squid Shark,
Other than the GTMO matter I agree with you pretty much on everything you said. These are conservative issues and I wouldn’t consider you a moderate.

kongzilla on March 12, 2008 at 1:38 AM

Who is Rev. Hagee?

I don’t want to offend anyone, but isn’t he the guy who has two chins, and while speaking the bottom one touches his nipples?

Indy Conservative on March 11, 2008 at 6:40 PM

Hilarious! I don’t know who the dude is either, but I can hardly type you’ve made me laugh so hard.

Tzetzes on March 12, 2008 at 1:42 AM

Why Romney?

THREE BIG REASONS:

He’s worked in the private sector as an executive.

He’s never been a Senator.

He actually understands what a tax is.

Saltysam on March 12, 2008 at 2:01 AM

This is a satisficing strategy, and sometimes you go with that. But for some reason, Romney just doesn’t feel right. Nothing wrong so much, just no warm fuzzy. I don’t think this is the right move for either us or him.

Let’s try for a optimizing strategy for VP. I’m sure there is one that is possible. Are we so bereft of talent that we have already exhausted the possibilities? Surely we can pick deeper? Surely someone has been thinking the big thoughts, is on the board and ready to play? If not, then shame on us for letting this state of affairs come to pass.

Horatius on March 12, 2008 at 2:28 AM

With all this name calling back and forth, it sounds like my grand children.

Johan Klaus on March 12, 2008 at 2:43 AM

I miss Mitt greatly… I’m still in denial that we got a slushy Republican like McVain over men of dignity and class like either Romney or Thompson.

And saying that McCain would be better then Hillary/Obama is like saying I’d rather have a cavity drilled then get a root canal.

Jockolantern on March 12, 2008 at 5:03 AM

Ok, first:

Jews are a race. Mormons and homosexuals are mormons and homosexuals by choice..there is a huge difference.

You are deliberately being dishonest and worse by equating Christians with nazi’s. Shame on you bambi.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Jews are a race? You mean Judaism isn’t a religion? And homosexuality is a choice? But hey, being Mormon is a choice, one out of three ain’t bad.

No, actually the reverse was true. Evangelicals and social conservatives were tolerant of liberals like you. GWB was elected despite the best efforts of people like you. Evangelicals and social conservatives never sought the revenge and ideological cleansing of people like you. GWB honored the entire spectrum of party opinion. Many times to the outrage of people like me.

John McCain, like you, wants me to f**k off because I oppose amnesty, support jurists like Alito and Roberts, and have a faith-based view of the world. I’m not going to vote for McCain without some assurance that the party won’t become a mirror image of the hate expressed by you and Allah (among others) toward social conservatives.

highhopes on March 12, 2008 at 12:46 AM

I love how your analysis seems to be that only evangelicals and socons are “real” conservatives who held off on the ideological cleansing because they were too nice, or something. What, are fiscal conservatives and war hawks somehow not conservative anymore?

Oh my god, I wish you moderates would just admit that your beliefs are more aligned with the democrats.Quit being wishy washy, take a stand for once on something and be honest. Please enlighten us to how you’re not democrats. We conservatives know what we stand for, what the hell do you guys stand for?

kongzilla on March 12, 2008 at 12:50 AM

Since some seem to be debating the meaning of “moderate”: A moderate is simply a person who does not conform to the political ideology of any particular group. This may be because he has no hard and fast beliefs. Or it may be because he has beliefs that come from a mixture of backgrounds, and therefore aren’t aligned with conservatives, liberals, Constitutionalists, white supremacists, greenies etc. Plus moderates come in all flavors, from social conservative-fiscal liberals to pro-war Democrats to pro-abortion war hawks. How do you take that entire group of people, reduce it to one belief system, and state that that belief system is more aligned with liberals than conservatives? And, of course, you then say that moderates are “wishy-washy”. This must be a reference to the type of moderate that doesn’t hold hard and fast beliefs. But now you’re scorning Squid_Shark for not holding hard and fast beliefs, and at the same time trying to get him to admit that those nonexistent beliefs align with the left. GIGO.

Math_Mage on March 12, 2008 at 6:38 AM

Moderate does not mean wishy-washy or indecisive. A moderate is someone who has a few ideas favored by the other party.

Nothing drives me crazy like some surrendercrat talking about leaving Iraq in defeat and stabbing our allies in the back. Democrats have a disgusting excuse for a foreign policy. I’m an environmentalist, but my environmentalism is not welcome in the democratic party since it involves using technology and human ingenuity. Apparently the Goracle does not approve of nuclear energy as a real alternative, preferring unreliable energy sources. Democrats take a stance on immigration which ticks me off even more than McCain’s. I tend have conflicts with more conservative people on urban issues and regulation, which I think can be a good thing. (Would you like some E. coli with your meat or lead with your toy?)

So the democrats want hope and change that leave me and others wondering how someone like Truman or Kennedy could from the same party as these morons. Yet, because I don’t exclude issue based on a relation to the democratic party, I am now indecisive?

OmegaPaladin on March 12, 2008 at 6:41 AM

He actually understands what a tax is.

Saltysam on March 12, 2008 at 2:01 AM

No Sam, remember he calles them fees.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 12, 2008 at 6:49 AM

Poor libtards

Snooper on March 12, 2008 at 7:48 AM

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