Are you ready for Governor Giuliani?

posted at 2:42 pm on March 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ross Douthat and Marc Ambinder are skeptical. Why? He’s not going to waste away in semi-obscurity as a figurehead for some security firm; this is a man, after all, willing to spoof the idiocy of his own campaign strategy for a brief guest shot on Saturday Night Live. Unless McCain wins and puts him in the cabinet, he’ll have no access to the public stage and nothing to do with his time but plot a route. Realistically that means challenging either Hillary or Schumer for Senate, a losing proposition in a true-blue state against such high-profile incumbents, or a no-name governor who backed into the job thanks to a scandalous Democratic flameout. It’s either this or, er, mayor of L.A. Why not?

Follow the link to Ambinder and note Patrick Ruffini’s 2010 dream scenario. Why would she give up the Senate for that?

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Kini on March 11, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me. Can you really hope for a more conservative governor of New York?

frankj on March 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Would be good for Rudy. He can carry NYC and upstate as well.

William Amos on March 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Seems there’s no better time for it. I hope he takes the opportunity.

Slublog on March 11, 2008 at 2:50 PM

at Redstate I think? I recently read someone talking about Rudy for Senator in New Jersey. who knows, I’m sure he’d like back in the game. and Repubs. could use him, he is very effective at combating the Dems/Libs.

jp on March 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Go for it, Rudy!

aero on March 11, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Mayor of LA? Interesting…….;…

Governor of New York? I doubt it.

saiga on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

After Spitzer’s irresponsible personal behavior, New Yorkers will turn to Rudy to restore a sense of wholesomeness and family values to Albany.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

gawd yes! i wanted him as president, but this would be a nice consolation prize.

its vintage duh on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

After Spitzer’s irresponsible personal behavior, New Yorkers will turn to Rudy to restore a sense of wholesomeness and family values to Albany.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Pretty much nailed it. I, therefore, have nothing to say.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 11, 2008 at 2:57 PM

It’s either this or, er, mayor of L.A. Why not?

L.A. could use a competent mayor, but Rudy? Might be a bit of a carpetbagger. Although he would definitely be better than Tony Villar–especially if he could do something about all the gang violence (and the illegales)!

darii on March 11, 2008 at 2:58 PM

If he could clean up LA the way he cleaned up NY, by stomping on the toes of our $@^#$@% city council and wiping them out, I would be ecstatic. I’d still leave this godforsaken city, but it’d be nice to see it cleaned up. The LA city council makes New Orleans and Ray Nagin look pure as the drive snow.

wherestherum on March 11, 2008 at 2:58 PM

I certainly hope so. He’d be the best (viable) option.

amerpundit on March 11, 2008 at 2:59 PM

drive=driven

wherestherum on March 11, 2008 at 2:59 PM

After Spitzer’s irresponsible personal behavior, New Yorkers will turn to Rudy to restore a sense of wholesomeness and family values to Albany.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I get the sense that you are being a bit sarcastic. ;-0

One question before we all go out and get our Rudy for Gov bumper stickers…. How’s it work in NY State? Does the successor serve out the term or do they call a special election?

highhopes on March 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Rudy Giuliani would make a great governor. Lets see if he wants it.

kanda on March 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Has anyone asked Rudy if he wants the job?

Seven Percent Solution on March 11, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Yes, he’d be great.

j0 on March 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM

It would be a great move for Rudy. His executive experience as Mayor of NYC gave him great chops to use in the White House (his bold but unsuccessful campaign strategy notwithstanding). To augment that with a higher order of executive experience (a microcosm of the presidency, it can be quite convincingly argued) could gain him considerable yardage for 2012/16, should he choose to have another go at it.

Noocyte on March 11, 2008 at 3:05 PM

PLEASE!

This would be great for New York.

Plus he is more popular in the suburbs than he ever was in the city!

kcluva on March 11, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Maybe we’ll see Rudy vs. Hillary after all!
Because we all know that short of having Barack bumped off, there is no way in creation Hillary will be teh nominee.
So they can both run for the Governorship!

ToddonCapeCod on March 11, 2008 at 3:07 PM

After Spitzer’s irresponsible personal behavior, New Yorkers will turn to Rudy to restore a sense of wholesomeness and family values to Albany.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Ha ha- brutal.

“Rudy for governor- hey, at least he didn’t pay for it!”

Hollowpoint on March 11, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Has anyone asked Rudy if he wants the job?

Seven Percent Solution on March 11, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Oh…yeah. Uh, we’ll shoot him an email some time.

amerpundit on March 11, 2008 at 3:11 PM

I get the sense that you are being a bit sarcastic. ;-0

One question before we all go out and get our Rudy for Gov bumper stickers…. How’s it work in NY State? Does the successor serve out the term or do they call a special election?

highhopes on March 11, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Yes, being sarcastic. The governor job would be good for Rudy and he’d be good for the state. Too bad they can’t just put him in now.

If Spitzer resigns the Lt. Gov gets the job. If he doesn’t take it, then Joe Bruno, the senate majority leader gets the job.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 3:12 PM

New York doesn’t have enough skanky Dems, so it had to bring in Hillary from freakin’ Arkansas.

Rudy is a cosmic balance to the fallen likes of the local Democratic trash in that State. It’s the only political lineup that surpasses the comic horror show in Massachusetts.

Hening on March 11, 2008 at 3:12 PM

“Rudy for governor- hey, at least he didn’t pay for it!”

Hollowpoint on March 11, 2008 at 3:10 PM

He’s fiscally conservative ;-)

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 3:15 PM

It ain’t happening. The only hope for Albany–and it makes me throw up a little in my mouth just typing it–is Nanny Bloomie. Unless Shelly has a coronary; then, all bets off.

TC@LeatherPenguin on March 11, 2008 at 3:18 PM

YES!!!! Great idea!!! Go for it Rudy!!

Conservatives R Us on March 11, 2008 at 3:19 PM

I had to calm down from the ecstasy induced by the idea of Rudy as Governor of NY. I believe it would be a good thing. He already knows his way around, he knows where the bodies are buried and would I ever love to see him get the better of Sheldon Silver, that communist dictator on steroids (he blocked Staten Island secession from NYC even though the vast majority of Staten Islanders voted FOR it – the only reason we survived is because of Giuliani).

Be still, my heart.

Mommynator on March 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM

I LOVE THE IDEA 100%…GO RUDY!!

sharinlite on March 11, 2008 at 3:32 PM

He should open a ferret extermination business.

Grafted on March 11, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Ross Douthat’s post is moronic. First of all, who in their right mind thinks Rudy is “center left?” Unless your definition of the political right is being anti-abortion, anti-gay, and pro-unlimited access to guns, he’s very obviously a socially moderate politician who is very conservative in every other area. Also, Rudy’s campaign was only “lackluster” because he refused to pander to the far right wing of the Republican party, and all the talk of running an insurgent pro-lifer in a third party scared too many people off. Unlike many of the others (*cough*RomneyThompson*cough*), he was unwilling to lie his way to the nomination as regards social issues, and missed out on it. Oh well.

Big S on March 11, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Not going to happen unless Patterson, the current Lt. Gov., is a total basket case when he replaces Spitzer, or if the Democrats win the presidency and hold both Houses of Congress this fall and the state’s economic situation continues to head downwards by 2010.

New Yorkers (mainly downstate, which has the lion’s share of the population) only vote for Republicans when the Democrats hold all major levers of power at the local, state and national level and conditions continue to deteriorate. That’s held true all the way back to the Tamminy scandals of the early 20th Century (the only exceptions being John Lindsay in 1965, who was a liberal at heart and reminded voters of the recently assassinated John F. Kennedy, and Bloomberg in 2001, because as liberal as New York is, with the nation’s financial capital to protest they’re not moonbat crazy and didn’t want ex-Nader Raider Mark Green guiding the post 9/11 economic recovery efforts).

Given a President Hillary or Obama, a Speaker Pelosi and a Senate Majority Leader Reid in 2009, if things suck in NYS, then Rudy would have the same chance he did in 1993 against Dinkins or that Pataki had in ’94 against Cuomo. But under current conditions, if the GOP holds the White House, Patterson will be turned into a celebrity and barring any major problems, the big media outlets would blame all of the state’s problems on the Bush-McCain Administrations, and Rudy won’t try to fight that battle just to move to Albany.

jon1979 on March 11, 2008 at 3:44 PM

Does this mean Skippy can’t be Governor now? Not EVER?!!

mojo on March 11, 2008 at 3:45 PM

After Spitzer’s irresponsible personal behavior, New Yorkers will turn to Rudy to restore a sense of wholesomeness and family values to Albany.

dedalus on March 11, 2008 at 2:55 PM

LOL

L.A. could use a competent mayor, but Rudy? Might be a bit of a carpetbagger. Although he would definitely be better than Tony Villar–especially if he could do something about all the gang violence (and the illegales)!

darii on March 11, 2008 at 2:58 PM

This LA woman can only dream of such a thing. Plus he and the LAPD chief are old compadres.

baldilocks on March 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM

I’d love to see Rudy crack the whip in LA, but he would have to become a naturalized Mexican citizen. Only citizens can enter politics in LA.

tommylotto on March 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Run, Rudy, run!

I wish he were a social conservative, but I sure like him anyway!

petefrt on March 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Come on Rudy run for mayor of LA..we need you here.

Anybody with a pulse would be better than our horrible horrible mayor.

Or even better run for Governor of CA.

Let’s replace our horrible RINO governator with the less horrible RINO Rudy.

SaintOlaf on March 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Bloomberg’s going to run.

someone on March 11, 2008 at 4:30 PM

If Hillary wins the White House, she would have to resign from the Senate, and Spitzer’s Lt. Governor would appoint a caretaker Democrat to the Senate, so Rudy would have a good chance to take him/her out in 2010. If McCain wins the Presidency, Rudy would make an excellent Attorney General or Homeland Security Secretary in a McCain Administration.

But if Obama wins the White House, Rudy would probably make a great Governor of New York, and could probably get elected, because he could run even with the Democrats in NYC and win the more Republican areas upstate. Of course, he’s already on his third wife, so he needs to keep clean in that part of his life.

As for LA, fuhgeddaboudit! Rudy would (rightfully) be seen as a carpetbagger, and wouldn’t be accepted by the locals. Rudy’s a New Yawka, and that’s where he can win and do some good.

Steve Z on March 11, 2008 at 4:44 PM

This is one Giuliani candidacy I could actually support. He was the greatest mayor of NYC in my lifetime and I believe he could potentially be the best NYS governor as well.

All things being relative, Rudy could actually nudge this bastion of liberalism noticeably to the right.

withoutfeathers on March 11, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Dream on it will never happen

daileyck1 on March 11, 2008 at 4:56 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me. Can you really hope for a more conservative governor of New York?

Considering he’s pro-Amnesty? Yes. HOPE, that is.

Spanglemaker on March 11, 2008 at 5:10 PM

Rudy as Governor – great idea. As Senator – not so much.

Buy Danish on March 11, 2008 at 5:22 PM

It’s funny, I brought Giuliani up as a potential governor last night. I think he would be great. He’d be better in a cabinet position but we’ll see where that goes…

Aggie85 on March 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM

This is one Giuliani candidacy I could actually support. He was the greatest mayor of NYC in my lifetime…
withoutfeathers on March 11, 2008 at 4:51 PM

That’s still a pretty low hurdle to clear.

Hollowpoint on March 11, 2008 at 5:41 PM

This is my first post and I consider it a privilege to do so.

As an Illinoisan, we could use a governor like Rudy. This state has become the most over taxed, corrupt, and biggest laughing stock in the country. If we couldn’t woo Fred to our state, I would happily take Rudy just to see the look on Dicky Turbin’s face. What a state full of political jackass’s.
(I hated to swear on my first post)

Rushstang on March 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM

As long as he stays where he belongs. New York Pols have a long history of corruption so I just hope they stay in their own state.

LevStrauss on March 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM

If John McCain wins the Presidency, Rudy will be his Attorney General.

MrLynn on March 11, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Rudy can’t get Governor, he is going to be Vice President. >:D

But, seriously whatever he wants to do i’m in his corner cheering him on.. Rudy is DA MAN!

Chakra Hammer on March 11, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Plus he and the LAPD chief are old compadres.

baldilocks on March 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM

baldilocks, the ‘marriage’ ended a while ago.

Giuliani fired Bratton in 1996

Entelechy on March 11, 2008 at 7:19 PM

J, I should add, Bratton and Giuliani are on speaking terms, again.

Entelechy on March 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Why would she give up the Senate for that?

Pete Wilson did that in California. Don’t you have more power as a governor of a large state than as a junior Senator? More importantly, aren’t you more nominatable as a governor (this strange election season notwithstanding)?

calbear on March 11, 2008 at 8:50 PM

It would be interesting to see if a NY Governor Rudy governs with the same conservatism he claimed in his presidential campaign or if he reverts back to his former liberal ways.

If he proves himself a conservative as the Governor of New York then I’d be glad to support him in another run at President.

RJL on March 12, 2008 at 12:59 AM

Yeah! Go, Rudy! He’d make for a terrific governor and could definitely help pull NY out of the liberal quagmire they’re continually sinking into. Lord knows he’d be better than Paterson… yeek.

Jockolantern on March 12, 2008 at 4:14 AM

WHile I would never vote for him as President, I think he would do NY good as governor.

Sensei Ern on March 12, 2008 at 12:13 PM

What was I saying? How much more moral is Rudy over Spitzer? Just because he marries his trist. Also, consider which one paid less?

Sensei Ern on March 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM