Strike Two for the Times
posted at 6:00 pm on March 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Well, I know that people have waited for John McCain to blow his top on the campaign trail, but if this is what they wanted, I think those folks are in for some disappointment. The New York Times and other news agencies have passed this around the blogosphere as some sort of eruption, but I’ve seen priests with less equanimity during Mass than this:
I agree with Michelle about learning a lesson in dealing with the mainstream media. Obviously Elizabeth Bumiller wanted to trip his circuits; she pulls out a story in 2004 about the invitation from John Kerry to join his ticket, hoping to get a reaction. She’s not looking out for his best interests, quite obviously, but trying to be deliberately provocative. After all, wouldn’t that be a question to ask before he had sewn up the nomination?
But his reaction seems rather mild, under the circumstances. He’s annoyed, sure, but hardly spitting and cursing. By the time she asks “Why are you so angry?”, the question is so inappropriate that he asks her to repeat it — and she declines, hopefully out of embarrassment.
Interestingly, the Times now has tried twice to get his goat, and for the second time, they’ve wound up with egg on their face.
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God gave old people the wisdom to find fault in everything.
TheBigOldDog on March 7, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Way to go OT. We are discussing McCain approaching Daschle in 2001 to switch parties and McCain approaching Kerry in 2004 for the veep spot. This and his treatment of the conservative base are all illustrative of his traitorous character flaws.
Valiant on March 7, 2008 at 8:10 PM
LOL. God bless them and you. Good night.
Valiant on March 7, 2008 at 8:11 PM
If all they’ve got is that he gets politely indignant when you ask him questions that are already common knowledge then maybe November won’t be so bad.
Of course the following year we’ll be flooded in illegal immigrants, but you take what you can get.
blankminde on March 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM
So in a case of “He said, He said,” you are taking John Kerry’s word over John McCain? That says quite a bit right there.
Mallard T. Drake on March 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM
McCain didn’t approach Daschle. His former aid sorta did so in informal conversations with his close friend who was a Daschle supporter, then Daschle called McCain to discuss it, and McCain said “no thanks.”
Kerry all but begged McCain to be his VP and McCain said he was flattered by the offer, but “no thanks.”
The former aide who got all this stuff back out there worked for Mitt Romney through the campaign, and perhaps still does.
funky chicken on March 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Didn’t read through all the comments. And, to be sure, I am no fan of John McCain, but… man, I love how he handled this little twit.
Blarg the Destroyer on March 7, 2008 at 8:17 PM
He handled her.
She is just a “Radar” Radical Activist Disguised As Reporter!
“RADAR”
Haha, we should call them by this name .
TheSitRep on March 7, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Read the comments to this thread to see “Valiant” spreading the Ted Sampley BS on McCain.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/04/video-mccain-clinches-takes-it-to-the-democrats-on-iraq/comment-page-1/#comments
funky chicken on March 7, 2008 at 8:21 PM
yep, your leaning towards Kerry and Daschle as the truth tellers tells me all I need to know
sure buddy, just admit it, you are a troll
windansea on March 7, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Wait, where’s the vid where McCain gets all upset?
All I can link to is McCain refusing to play with an idiot reporter, something about a “botched Kerry”.
shooter on March 7, 2008 at 8:24 PM
It’s not for nothing that “Klymer” is a synonym for A$$*ole over at FR. Big Time.
gridlock2 on March 7, 2008 at 8:44 PM
I love how the press keeps acting as if America doesn’t know who the guy is. The lobbying story doesn’t stick because America knows Mav is against corporate influence. They bring up the Kerry vp story and again no dice, because Americans already know he works across the isle. America is very familiar with John McCain, there is nothing they can do to slime the guy. When they try it blows up in their face. Funny thing is though, they don’t care. The NYT’s could care less about profits anymore. It’s all about ideology. After the election you’ll see PMSNBC and the NYT’s clean house. Guaranteed.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 7, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Hmmmm. I thought I had read that John Weaver the former McCain aide had taken a paid job with the Romney campaign after he left the McCain campaign a year ago…but can’t confirm that with google.
So, I was probably wrong about that.
What’s “Klymer”?
funky chicken on March 7, 2008 at 8:52 PM
I don’t care for McCain one bit, but he has handled himself very well and fielded all the stupid questions so far in a professional, mild, and PC manner. People seem to like that robotic behavior nowadays (especially the moderate rep (lib)commenters on HA that want to play the game to win disregarding any principles whatsoever).
I can’t believe that anyone would consider this plane exchange even the slightest bit testy. I mean, why don’t these morons ask serious questions, like quiz him on Edmund Burke or how soon he will start a new shamnesty movement when becoming POTUS. This reporter sounds about 16 yrs old and is attempting lame gotcha questions.
He should show the anger toward the media like he does toward conservatives. Give them a big FU moment here and there, then tell Hussein and Hill to “shove it” with their Marxist Liberal crap, then tell illegals to start packing it up, etc…(pure fantasy moment, I know)..
I’d enjoy that and would definitely vote for him!
nottakingsides on March 7, 2008 at 9:25 PM
This is the famous McCain temper?
Mattpat11 on March 7, 2008 at 9:32 PM
That’s what I thought too. I was perhaps a fool, but I kept waiting for Sen. McCain to go red-faced and it didn’t happen. It’s like that Mitt Romney Mormon interview from a while back.
The media these days never fails to disappoint. Nothing much has changed since William Randolph Hearst used to hire women to go out and “faint” in the streets on slow news days.
Wayne Clark on March 7, 2008 at 9:44 PM
If it had been Harry Truman, first she wouldn’t have been on the plane after what the NYT did previously. Second, he would likely have slapped some sense into her arrogant liberally poisoned brain. If it had been me I would have told her on camera to look for another gig as she was finished on this campaign.
wepeople on March 7, 2008 at 9:51 PM
“Obviously Elizabeth Bumiller wanted to trip his circuits; she pulls out a story in 2004 about the invitation from John Kerry to join his ticket, hoping to get a reaction. She’s not looking out for his best interests, quite obviously, but trying to be deliberately provocative. After all, wouldn’t that be a question to ask before he had sewn up the nomination?”
Ed. Ed, Ed, Ed. I’m starting to sound like a broken record, but: you are waay too fair, balanced, and mature.
All that wasted verbiage, when you could have said: It’s E. Bumiller, of the New York Times.
It’s the Times, Ed; it’s what they do. There is absolutely no need to give them the benefit of the doubt or build up a case of bias, for each of the innumerable instances of bias.
I know that you know all of this. And yet you persist in being fair, balanced, and mature. That is one of the disadvantages that conservatives and Republicans have in dealing with the media and the Democrats and the liberals.
Just wade in and start throwing haymakers, for crying out loud.
misterpeasea on March 7, 2008 at 9:53 PM
This is Strike 3 in my book, because it seems you forgot about the NYT hit piece they ran a week after the 1st with bring up the 8 year old news about questioning if he can be President because he was born in Panama.
McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out
What I don’t understand is why he is bothering to allow a NYT reporter to fly on his plane still.
JeffinSac on March 7, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Personally, I think small outbursts like this show that McCain is not some robotic politician, but a passionate person who will not suffer liberal idiots.
William Teach on March 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM
It bothers me to no end that he is our candidate, and now here we are defending him from lame attacks from the media. It’s like the world is turned on it’s ear right now.
samuelrylander on March 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM
MSM would make this into some kind of confirmation of its narrative on McCain’s temper.
Well, get this: MSM would outlaw conservatives defending themselves, period. What we saw from McCain is hardly temper. What this is, is standing up against propagandists and smear merchants.
If this is temper, I’m hoping there’s more where it came from.
Bravo, McCain.
petefrt on March 7, 2008 at 10:16 PM
The only reason he is mad is because he got caught in a lie. How ironic during the primaries he called Romney a flip flopper, while if you look at his record, he’s the worst of the bunch, GOP and Dem. And I bet he’ll snap at a debate.
menoname on March 7, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Wow! He is such a “maverick” for saying he won’t answer an idiotic question. Whoop-de-doooo!
You people have really lowered your standards for what is considered “standing up” for something.
He’s sucked up to the MM and Libs for years. Just now he says he won’t answer something. So what! I don’t fall for the latest narrative that fits the McCain fanatics.
nottakingsides on March 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Anyone who uses cute nicknames like Juan or McVain pr McVain can hardly be taken seriously. You sound like the geniuses over at Democraticunderground with their Chimpy’s and their pResidents.
Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:30 PM
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Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:34 PM
By all accounts? Which accounts? One of TOM DASCHILS staffers, JOhn Kerry’s people??? Are you effing kidding me. You are so sick to get McCain that you would believe these schmucks, dont you think that maybe. just maybe, they would have reason to lie?
Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:44 PM
An irrelevant non issue you mean since he rejected it out of hand.
Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Hhahahahahh long live the federalists.
You know Madison was a Democrat :)
Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:47 PM
I love how you equate his bucking of party establishment to disloyalty to country (which is the primary implication of the work traitor), that is the sign of a first rate schmuck.
Squid Shark on March 7, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Let’s get back on message….
Who would look better in his “Commander In Chief” Uniform?
Barack Obama or John McCain?
Travis1 on March 7, 2008 at 11:00 PM
He didn’t lose his cool at all, he kept it and applied the appropriate level of righteous indignation, destroying the liberal argument that John McCain does not have the emotional steadiness to be Prez.
CliffHanger on March 7, 2008 at 11:10 PM
blast! Those dastardly liberals at the NYT’s have tried yet again to get McCain’s goat with their “questions” and “reporting”. Luckily it appears he has gotten the last laugh and evaded them again! What’s more, they now have egg on their face! Egg! The right wins again and the NYT now will have to retreat into the shadows and lick their wounds, taking solace in their 95 Pullitzer prizes and massive readership! Victory!
crr6 on March 7, 2008 at 11:11 PM
… except that the media is portraying the exchange as evidence that McCain eaasily loses his temper.
I hope every clear-thinking American watches or listens to that exchange and just lets it speak for itself.
CliffHanger on March 7, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Daschle’s word is worthless.
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Speaking of Tom Dachle, here is a little bit of John Thune introducing John McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Tzx9D2GN0
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Why Daschle hates McCain..
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I’m with Michelle, glad to see his anger pointed at someone besides a conservative for once!
conservnut on March 7, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Is an NYT reporter really still an indispensible part of a campaigning politician’s entourage?
Kralizec on March 7, 2008 at 11:58 PM
John McCain doesn’t have to explain private conversations where he conspired with the rats against the Republican Party. How dare anyone ask him about that.
Buddahpundit on March 8, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Obama would have just walked away from the confrontation.
Hillary would start crying.
I’ll take McCain’s response any day. Who think he’s angry? He’s just putting her down.
desertdweller on March 8, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Can they make it any more obvious that they’re trying to make him look bad? These people are pathetic.
bojack on March 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM
The “Why are you so angry?” question was obviously one Bumiller had prepared in advance, assuming that she would be able to get to him by jabbing at his credibility. She must have figured he would either begin heatedly denying Kerry ever asked him the question, or that he would call the reporter who wrote the original story a liar.
Instead, John said an a very measured way that everyone in the country knew the conversation had taken place, that it was a private conversation which he would not discuss, and did she have another question. Not knowing quite what to do, and unable to get a response out of him, Elizabeth prematurely fired off her “finisher” line, to which McCain did not respond at all — he merely asked her to repeat the question.
The funny thing is, he may not have actually heard her question, but she must have realized that the moment had passed, and at that point it was better to simply fold up her tent and retreat. But in the process, she actually came off sounding ackward, a little like Emily Litella! Never mind! Ha!
Game, set, match!
By the way, CNN, per Dana Bash, gamely rehashed the whole incident for everything they could squeeze out of it, characterizing him as “testy” and quoting several unnamed Democrat Senators as jumping on the “incident” and calling him “Senator Hothead.”
This is not going to be a pretty year. It’s only early March, and some in the press are already openly going for the jugular. But if John succeeds in continuing to deflect these blatantly partisan shots early on, it will build support or at least a sympathetic ear for him across the board.
Trochilus on March 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Massive readership? HAHAHAH Snort. I bet this blog gets more reads than the NYT.
Pulitzers are worth about as much as my Enron Stock.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM
I am so glad John got the nom to smoke out people who arent committed to anything but who will kiss their ass the most.
Welcome to the rest of the Republican Coalition, we decided to enter the conversation this year.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 12:39 AM
really? would you like to bet that? I’d love to take you up on that.
crr6 on March 8, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Yahoo news headline: “McCain flashes temper at reporter.”
Tell me this BS isn’t coordinated.
joewm315 on March 8, 2008 at 1:16 AM
Wile E. Coyote has got to be running the news budget meetings in the Times’ Washington D.C. bureau.
jon1979 on March 8, 2008 at 1:22 AM
crr6, it is easy to find out.
Johan Klaus on March 8, 2008 at 1:26 AM
I don’t really care who knocks McCain out of the race prior to the convention, be it the NYT, WaPo or the East Bumblejerk Daily Blab.
Just so McCain is out of the race by September.
We need a real conservative, not the fraud that is John McCain.
Dave R. on March 8, 2008 at 1:51 AM
We need a real conservative, not the fraud that is John McCain.
Dave R. on March 8, 2008 at 1:51 AM
You might as well go ahead and start therapy. After Obama’s blowing his chances the last ten days, it’s almost inevitable.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 8, 2008 at 1:57 AM
CCR, the NYT has been loosing readers for years. They have only remained afloat because of their other publications (like the only slightly less worthless Boston Globe.
Its childish hit pieces that they run every election year like clockwork are pitiful and get sadder every election cycle as America ditches them for the internet. I recall a story a few years ago that when Drudge dropped them as the primary link, their online readership dropped dramatically.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 1:57 AM
“We need a real conservative, not the fraud that is John McCain.”
So you think that if the NYT forces McCain to withdraw from that race that we will win?? YOu might was well go third party because your chances would be better that way.
Give up the ghost, the “RINO” or Moderate wing of the party have had your asshat candidates shoved down our throats for 20 years, we have stuck with them because it was in accordance with our general goals, well maybe it is time one of our guys got in. You “real” conservatives did a GREAT job reigning in spending BTW, remember that contract thingy we all bought into…
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 2:03 AM
It is nice to have the video and see with one’s own eyes that there was no flash of anger. He was not angry. He was not even slightly perturbed.
Just more lies from MSM.
slp on March 8, 2008 at 7:08 AM
Wow, he was really, really mean there. “You seem angry”. He should have backhanded her ass.
LtE126 on March 8, 2008 at 7:48 AM
Why does anyone even care what the NYSlimes says? They’re so irrelevant now. Their paper is good for a cat box liner. Nothing else…
PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on March 8, 2008 at 7:50 AM
I agree, who gives a flying BillyBlythe what the NYT says. But McCain needs to get his whacks in on them before the Donks finish their self emulation because after the fires are extinguished (literally) in Denver the entire wrath and fury of the media is going to turn on him and he doesn’t need to look too mean at that time.
JonRoss on March 8, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Provocation? Maybe. But they’re still lobbing softballs. I’m still waiting for someone to ask him hard questions about Hernandez.
sloopy on March 8, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Geeez luuweeeez! He went berzerk! Holy crap, I thought he was going to jump over the seat at her. Man-o-man! (since when does Emilly Litella work for NYT?)
This is all they have for headlines?
oakpack on March 8, 2008 at 9:50 AM
It looks to me like “Fighting John McCain” handled this twit just fine. Keep it up John we need ya!
Rick554 on March 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM
The New York Times has been trying a new slime tactic against McCain in the last two weeks. The new party line at the Times is that the John McCain of 2000 was a great man, a true maverick, a man of the center. But the John McCain of 2008 is now a right wing dingbat who has lost his moral compass. The new party line at the Times was started by Frank Rich last Sunday. He wrote that the old McCain was against Bush and Limbaugh but now McCain is catering the right wing. Then the Times has a huge article by the scriptwriter for the television program “Family Ties”. The guy wrote a long article about how Alex P. Keaton could support the McCain of 2000 but not the McCain of 2008. So the Elizabeth Bumiller attempt to set up McCain so she could show him to be a liar was part of the pattern at the Times. McCain recognized the setup immediately. Bumiller tried to get McCain to commit to a timeline of something that may have happened four years ago. Then, having trapped McCain, she could scurry to the Times archives and prove him a liar. This is what passes as journalism at the Times. I noticed how lovey dovey the press corps is with Obama on his plane. The reporters even buy chocolates for the Obamas.
Larraby on March 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM
If the Times really wants to “get” McCain, they’ll do a story on his hypocritical courtship of that “end-of-times” anti-catholic preacher.
While the right has attacked Obama for belonging to a “black” church that does not preach any sort of bigotry, McCain’s been cozying up to an anti-catholic bigot who believes the inevitable war with Iran with bring about the Armageddon.
This video is not an attempt to “get” McCain. Ed, the writing on this is very weak… speculative… words like “obviously” tend to signal a weak argument.
The TRUTH is, you have no idea what the NYTimes motives are, you don’t know Bill Keller or what his intentions are. If releasing this video was and attempt to paint McCain as a hot-head, as you point out, it’s not a very good video to use as evidence. If they really wanted to show he was a hot-head, they would have not pushed this video (if indeed they actually did). Like much of what’s written on political blogs, this is speculation passed off a truth. The more sort of stuff is pushed, the more reality gets lost. But I’ll leave you now to wait for the next Drudge report to spin into your anti-left narrative.
Tom_Shipley on March 8, 2008 at 10:31 AM
From Ronald Reagans’s Diary on a press brief when they were giving him a hard time for a few week “I opened by using all their words about them-that they were in Disarray, chaotic and about to unravel into complete shambles. They got the msg. & seemed a little self-conscious. It was a good session. I enjoyed myself.
When McCain gets into it he may want to try the same.
KBird on March 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM
We need to apologize for Tom, he came with us from CQ, we dont admit to him though.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Coming from “Squid Shark” I take that as a compliment. Alienating conservatives from the republican base is a super strategy! Ask “elected” President Ford. Whoops.
And that’s “Sen. (that’s short for Senor) Juan Hennessey McShamnesty” to you, SS.
Branch Rickey on March 8, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Why do expend so much energy on the ridiculous NYT? Channel that energy into getting local and state true conservatives elected. Just a suggestion. Chill. NYT is a rag and giving this much energy to it does nothing for you.
Branch Rickey on March 8, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Then why does Juan McVain court them?
Branch Rickey on March 8, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Dear Sen McCain,
Please kick her ass every time she opens her mouth. When you get tired of doing so, please pass the shoe over to me so I can keep kicking her ass for you. I do love it when you tell a reporter with an agenda to sit down and stop acting like a crybaby.
Keep up the good work, sir.
Subsunk
Subsunk on March 8, 2008 at 1:55 PM
It’s OK Squid Shark. “Tom” will have plenty of company here, as you can see. I think all the creeps who got banned at redstate came over because they face no opprobrium from the site administrators for behaving badly here.
funky chicken on March 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Guys,
There’s no evidence showing that the NYTimes is out to “get” McCain. Newspapers write about and criticize politicians all the time. McCain has had it easy over the past few months when it’s come to press coverage. It’s a joke that every time McCain or a Republican is scrutinized by the press, you guys get your undies in a bunch and yell about a MSM conspiracy to “get” your guys. Bitching about this video and calling it “strike 2″ by the Times is just absurd. grow up a little.
And I know I come off as harsh and caustic, but I do like Ed. I just call em as I see em.
Tom_Shipley on March 8, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Essentially, the reporter just needs to shut up like the rest of us regarding any criticism (real or imagined) about Sen McCain.
Weebork on March 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM
We already know why Michelle is angry. She and Barack had to (gasp!) repay their student loans. And neither of them was born with a multi-million dollar trust fund (oh, the humanity!).
This chick has plenty of reasons to be angry. Can’t you understand how downright mean this country has been to her???
AZCoyote on March 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Why didn’t we see a bony finger wagging close to the reporter’s face? Oops, wrong guy… Sorry.
Lamonte Thomas on March 8, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Yeah I just got through a 5 paragraph screed making implications about my sex life and masturbation practices on the other thread
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 6:30 PM
MM need to take control of the site NOW
KBird on March 8, 2008 at 7:12 PM
I think this temper thing is contrived just so they could show McCain’s’ facial distortions close up in the video. I think they deliberately videoed him from his bad side - they want the public to see he might not be the healthiest guy, but can’t come out and say it because it’s not PC.
fryclint on March 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM
So, with emphasis mine, Squid Shark, does this mean one no longer needs to take you seriously, or did you unintentionally misspell the former senator’s last name?
Branch Rickey on March 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM
There has never been any evidence that McCain either approached Daschle about going democrat or joining with Kerry as VP.
There were some stories democrats have floated, but since they want to wreck McCain, that is not so surprising.
What is puzzling is how people claiming to be Conservative keep working to keep stories about McCain’s alleged disloyalty alive.
hunter on March 8, 2008 at 9:59 PM
He’s an admitted McCain supporter:
Navy sticking up for Navy.
He’s misinformed and wrong, but I’ll give him some credit for backing his fellow swabbie.
Et tu Brute on March 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Unintentionally, I am a lousy fast-typer.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I had other reasons to vote against Bush in 2000, I was fairly non-religious at the time and Bush’s rhetoric made me uncomfortable.
Squid Shark on March 8, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Think real conservatives will vote for John McCain? Don’t count on it.
In the same pages, novelist Mark Helprin, a former adviser to Robert J. Dole’s presidential campaign, savaged conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin for daring to speak out against McCain.
Yet through his surrogates, McCain is attacking these leaders. This is beyond folly. It is political suicide.
Ironically, the man who survived this intramural scrum is the one who arguably least qualifies as a Reagan conservative. He claims to be a champion of freedom but gave us McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform — which, by limiting free speech during elections, is perhaps the greatest infringement ever on the First Amendment. He claims to be a champion of U.S. sovereignty but offered us the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill that would give millions of illegal immigrants the chance to become citizens; that’s amnesty, no matter how much he denies it. He claims to be a champion of the unborn but has waffled in the past, supporting federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research. This year, he won the endorsement of Republicans for Choice. He claims to be a fiscal conservative who will make the Bush tax cuts permanent, but he also voted against them.
MB4 on March 9, 2008 at 1:50 AM
I am sure those jailed for the Alien and Sedition Act would beg to differ and those locked up by Lincoln, Wilson and FDR would also have something to say.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 8:03 AM
If this is strike two, then is this Strike Three?
Or a downright mean beanball?
soundingboard on March 9, 2008 at 8:23 AM
I have to side with the NYT on this one; McCain was quite rude; I lost count of how many times he interrupted her. She obviously struck a nerve, with, what I considered to be fair questions. It certainly raises the issue of whether he has any principled differences with McCain.
cf on March 9, 2008 at 8:31 AM
I think McCain should BAN all NY Times reporters from covering his campaign until they fess up about the smear job. Actually he shouldn’t answer any questions from MSM until the Dems let FOX NEWS host a debate and take tough questions from Brit Hume.
Dennis D on March 9, 2008 at 8:39 AM
YEP!
So being suspected of a crime during wartime equates with sitting senators telling the American people to “shut up” with issue ads naming the “candidates and their records” (of all things - their records!) while they are trying to re-establish their taxpayer slush job for six more years. Really?
Branch Rickey on March 9, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Do you even know what I am referencing?
John Adams, Lincoln, and Wilson wholesale jailed newspaper editors for exercising 1st Amendment rights.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 9:23 AM
I am not saying McCain Feingold is right, I am just saying that saying it is the worst breach of FA rights EVER is a bit of a stretch.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Yes really.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 9:25 AM
I’m no big fan of his, but I really like the way he handled her. Cowering to these media people emboldens them.
petefrt on March 9, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Yes, Mr. Condescending Squid, I do know to what you are referencing. Do you understand “war-time” vs. 60 days before an election?
Thanks to McVAIN and his slush fund pals running an issue ad will get you more than just imprisonment. Heck, Rush Limbaugh got censured by the senate. Wake up. You obviously fought for freedom and so now is probably not the time to be blinded by a wolf in sheep’s clothes.
Branch Rickey on March 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Indeed I do, however I still think that the A & S act was a FAR greater attack on 1st Amendment Rights (the Quasi-War was a pretty shoddy excuse) than McCain Feingold. Also, where does it say your firs amendment rights go away in time of war?
Who says its ok to jail journalists and editors? Not meaning to condecend but I didnt think we were connecting very well on what I saw as the issue.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM
condecendcondescendSquid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM
So now the only press McCain gets is fighting the NY Times.
Red Pill on March 9, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Better than nothing.
Squid Shark on March 9, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Red Pill,
I would have strongly recommended going back and examining the last 12 months of Dick Morris’ columns, and transcripts of his opinions from interviews (e.g., O’Reilly), prior to citing him as a prognosticator of any merit. At one time or another, Dick Morris has nearly opined every possible viewpoint, and has pronounced each with all the seeming authority of Moses himself, as to what was definitely going to happen come the end of the week!
The only problem has been that in expressing those various and several prognostications, Morris has virtually littered the political landscape with busted predictions!
Here is just one — I’m paraphrasing, but he said it repeatedly: Unless Condi Rice gets into the race, Hillary will be the President come January, 2009.
So, citing him for what will now happen, is a little like buying a lottery ticket — eventually you might be proven right!
Trochilus on March 9, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Next headline: “Is McCain a Vampire”?
Some analysts say that could explain his amazing vigor on the campaign trail at the age of 72….
PattyJ on March 9, 2008 at 7:48 PM
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