rEVOLution to end formally tonight; Update: Video added
posted at 10:05 pm on March 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I waited 45 minutes for Paul HQ to fix the video of his farewell message that’s supposed to be here but it still won’t play as of this writing. Take ABC’s word for it, though: It’ll be there soon, and amid seven plus minutes on liberty, the gold standard, and the Gulf of Tonkin there’ll be some sort of formal concession of a race he never had the remotest chance of winning, no matter how many terrorist-themed “moneybombs” the Paulnuts managed to put together. He had his own cult before Obama did; he’s still the only candidate with his own blimp (and his own racialist newsletter, his own Nazi donor base, etc etc). I’ll miss the easy content but take heart in the fact that he’s on his way back to the House for another term, where he’ll charm us with another two years of floor speeches espousing an absolute moral equivalence between Israel and Hamas. Maybe someday he’ll get around to explaining why someone who voted to invade Afghanistan thinks he’s qualified to lecture others on noninterventionism. Good riddance.
Update: Finally, here’s the clip. “I don’t mind playing a key role in the revolution, but it has to be more than a Ron Paul revolution.”
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Please don’t endorse the Mav, I want to win in November.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Bye-bye crazy uncle Ron. See you at Christmas.
29Victor on March 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM
The question is: where did all that money that Paul raised go? He sure didn’t spend it on any advertising. I wonder which campaign official siphoned it out this time?
lorien1973 on March 6, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Did you just say ‘racialist?’ Is that an homage to Ali G?
Jeff_McAwesome on March 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Unfortunately, Paul has set back the cause of Libertarianism. He was not the ideal candidate. But his message of how the government has ignored the Constitution is valid and may have sunk in among the young and disaffected.
NNtrancer on March 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The Klan and 9/11 Truthers are having a candle light vigil as we speak.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Ditto.
heatherrc77 on March 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Hydroponics
Limerick on March 6, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I think we need a music theme from Chicago,
“Say Goodbye” to the Revolution!
canopfor on March 6, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Ding dong the dork is dead.
- The Cat
MirCat on March 6, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Dude. Should have used the REVOlution.
This is another triumph for the Build-A-Bear Group. And the Crypto-Jews, which I believe are Jews that like to work puzzles, crosswords, etc. Maybe some Sudoku, even.
ReubenJCogburn on March 6, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Well, heck. What do we do now with the blimp?
Tzetzes on March 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
You know, I had completely (or utterly and completely as some people I know say) forgotten about Paul until about two days ago. From the week where he had to return to his own district because he was being threatened there to two days ago I had no recollection of Dr Paul.
Ah, and now I don’t have to hear about him, hopefully, forever. Or, if we’re just lucky enough, he’ll turn into the Ralph Nader of the Republican Party, petitioning for the presidential election in every proceeding election cycle.
By the way, MirCat, I laughed at your borrowing of the Munchkins melody. Nice!
Weebork on March 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Yeah, but he’s not gone from Congress. Shame.
He didn’t actually manage to spend that whole great mountain of cash, did he?
TexasDan on March 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
What? 4% of the national vote wasn’t good enough to sustain the rEVOLution?
Truthers will be in denial. Blimps will fall from the sky. Cats and dogs living together!
The good news is: at least gold is approaching $1000!
Et tu Brute on March 6, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Damn….thanks for the reminder. I have two molars worth a house payment. Where did I put those pliers anyway?
Limerick on March 6, 2008 at 10:31 PM
It’s largely made way for racism, but racialism does exist and not only in (the very funny) Ali G. The OED lists uses of both words throughout the twentieth century, with racialism coming from the pen of no less a figure than Paul Johnson.
It may be old-fashioned, but it’s not a malapropism
Tzetzes on March 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM
This waste of time has been the best waste of time ever.
2Tru2Tru on March 6, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Don’t mention it. I have a Truther/Conspiracy Nut/Moonbat buddy of mine that constantly bashes America and predicts that we’re all going to hell any day now.
At least he keeps me up to date on the price of gold.
Et tu Brute on March 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I think Hot Air could have used that space for a more important story.
Martians and Lunatics have their own forum.
I would have rather read a story about how Global Warming is affecting the ovulation of pygmy women in New Guinea than knowing that this turdhead still exist.
Indy Conservative on March 6, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Where did he say he’s bowing out or suspending the campaign?
Fields on March 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM
He had it converted to gold dubloons and buried it in a cave east of Austin, Texas. It’ll be there for when the race war finally comes and the people rise up to throw off the shackles of paper money and the corrupting influence of adjustable rate mortgages and free credit reports.
Workers of the world unite (So long as your blood isn’t too tainted and you speak English clearly), you have nothing to lose but your economies of scale and your capital investment write-offs! Down with the Talmud inspired “No money down and no interest payments for the first 12 months”! Return to the age of barter! What was so wrong with late 18th century economic models anyway?!
The Apologist on March 6, 2008 at 10:42 PM
You mean it wasn’t already over? Like, before it began?
Will the hardcore Ronulans abide by this surrender, or will they fight on to the ends of their delusions?
Frozen Tex on March 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Adios Ron! So two questions, what happens with all the Ronbots, and can I have the blimp?
doubleplusundead on March 6, 2008 at 10:46 PM
7 minutes and 33 seconds and I have no clue as to what he’s talking about. Too many “ism’s” for me to follow.
Hog Wild on March 6, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Just watched the video and, er….what the hell did he say? That was one long rambling, with no distinct dropping out message.
amerpundit on March 6, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Pimping the book. Way to go, Paul.
malan89 on March 6, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Lew Rockwell says Paul “will never” endorse McCain and last night did “not called McCain to congratulate the little fascist”. Lovely.
amerpundit on March 6, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Speaking of the price of gold…People talk about it because they are worried about the US economy, the value of the dollar, and our status as a world power. I learned yesterday that China, with their 1.3 Billion people, has a GDP of $3.25 Trillion Dollars. The US, with .3 Billion people has a GDP of just under $13.8 Trillion. The US, with it’s capitalistic system, by far produces more than China with pseudo capitalistic communism, and a billion more people. Love your country, people. It’s a good place to be.
samuelrylander on March 6, 2008 at 10:52 PM
…and so Invader Zim returns to Congress, confident that the Intergalactic Invasion Armada will soon arrive in order to restore him to his rightful place as supreme dictator for life of planet Earth….
CyberCipher on March 6, 2008 at 10:56 PM
And that’s the thing. The Paulbots whine incessantly about how bad America has become. Yet, I don’t see any of them heading to Venezuela, where they’d certainly be much happier.
Et tu Brute on March 6, 2008 at 11:02 PM
ZZzzzzz….
So he is going to be an anti-war mouthpiece.
The people he will be asked to speak in front of will only want to hear about the war, none of the other stuff..
Ron, don’t be used.
Chakra Hammer on March 6, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Maybe he’ll endorse Nader! That’d be a hoot.
SouthernGent on March 6, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I consider myself a Neo-Libertarian
Neolibertarianism
Though I like the term “Republitarian” better. *Hat tip Larry Elder*
Chakra Hammer on March 6, 2008 at 11:07 PM
He’s to hung up on the war, and cannot seem to take a fresh look at the situation as new information comes in.
“We learn something every day, and lots of times it’s that what we learned the day before was wrong.”
-Bill Vaughan
Chakra Hammer on March 6, 2008 at 11:20 PM
It is interesting that RP ran his Presidential campaign right up to the results of his Congressional ..and he is not challenged by a D in November. This man is a charlaton.
So now tell me someone who knows, where does all that left over cash from his Presidential go? Staff salaries, including family members?
Texas Gal on March 6, 2008 at 11:21 PM
He sounded more reasonable in this one than nearly anything else he has done, I’ll give him that much (and only that much).
michaelo on March 6, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I just object to the word “neo”
it can easily be demonized in the press, its an odd word.
the definition of “neo” is this
1.New; recent
2.New and different
Just use “New” and be done with it. >:D
Chakra Hammer on March 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Awesome. I had no idea there was a label that applied to me.
Blacklake on March 6, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I would guess 330 million doses of poisenous grape koolaid.
Wise Golden on March 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM
It takes all of us, even us strange ones to win these close elections.
I have always voted Republican and will always vote Republican.
Chakra Hammer on March 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM
So when you play rEVOLution backwards, does it say “Ron Paul is dead”, or “I buried Ron Paul”, or something like that? Or just “noituLOVEr”?
Bigfoot on March 6, 2008 at 11:37 PM
More tools in this race than you can find at Home Depot…
sulla on March 6, 2008 at 11:45 PM
according to Opensecrets, Paul has $6 Million on hand for someone to loot.
http://opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008
plus the book sales of course.
jp on March 6, 2008 at 11:51 PM
And to think all that Ron Paul Revolution graffiti on the public bathroom walls here on campus were all for nothing.
Darn. LOL.
Finally. I consider myself Libertarian, but geez, what a wacko.
CollegeGirl on March 6, 2008 at 11:57 PM
just checked out Lew Rockwell’s blog, he has one titled, “McKiller”…claiming the ‘neocons’ finally have a candidate as ‘bloodthirsty’ as ‘they are’….
its unreal how disconnected from reality and off the walls nuts these freaks are….btw, the story link was to the Nation.
jp on March 7, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Does he realize he’s supposed to be forming sentences and not just reading one word at a time? He reminds me of how my nephew reads Dr. Seuss.
henzou on March 7, 2008 at 12:10 AM
God why can’t we get a candidate with John McCain’s defense policy and Ron Paul’s domestic policy?
They would have my absolute support!
conservnut on March 7, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Oh yeah, and Tom Tancrado’s border policy!
conservnut on March 7, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Perhaps someone should inform Dr. Paul that, when one has a plurality of subjects, one should use a plural verb. Did his campaign divest itself of speechwriters before the farewell was penned?
hicsuget on March 7, 2008 at 12:13 AM
I supported Rudy, the best of both worlds.
I still believe that he is the best candidate.
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Ron Paul. Super-Genius. He knew how to separate foolish people from their money and take it for himself.
You all just thought he was crazy.
Well, he really is. But he’s smart. Not like Fredo Corleone, but smart like Michael Corleone.
john1schn on March 7, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I will miss Ron. It often seemed like he was the real conservative conscience during debates.
Not right on every point, but right on many CORE points that the GOP has forgotten.
(For the record, I was a very open Mitt-man here…)
Ludwig on March 7, 2008 at 12:45 AM
…and no, I would never have voted this turd into office.
john1schn on March 7, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Ron Paul, not an A$$-Hat totally, but sometimes a A$$-Clown. He did bring less Federal Government as an issue, but went a little too far for the masses. End the IRS, well maybe with the Fair-Tax, but bring ALL Troops home, from every corner of the earth? Meh, I think not, but what do we do with all the signs from the converted all over the place?
Seven Percent Solution on March 7, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Won’t miss him one bit.
knob on March 7, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 12:17 AM
So, Rudy wants to eliminate the FBI?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:29 AM
And the CIA?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:31 AM
The Department of Education?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:31 AM
And return the currency to the gold standard?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Eliminate the federal reserve?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:32 AM
“In the past, I introduced legislation to repeal the so-called “assault weapons” ban before its 2004 sunset, and I will oppose any attempts to reinstate it.”
Ron Paul
Any quotes from Rudy like this?
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Irony of ironies:
If his Iraq/WOT positions were different, we would not know who he is.
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Too bad he didn’t do better. He’d be better than the joker in the White House now. Well, I guess anyone would be better. Well, meet ya at the FEMA camps, look me up. lol
menoname on March 7, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Saltysam, no to all those crazy ideas…
However Rudy was the most credible Libertarian leaning candidate in the race, that holds MANY Federalist positions that I do.
America lost by not having Rudy in the White House.
That said, McCain has my full support.
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Bye Ron. Thanks for the comedy.
coleporter on March 7, 2008 at 4:27 AM
Russell Kirk and Libertarianism
In a polemic essay, Kirk (quoting T. S. Eliot) called libertarians “chirping sectaries,” adding that they and conservatives have nothing in common. He called the libertarian movement “an ideological clique forever splitting into sects still smaller and odder, but rarely conjugating.”
neo-libertarian
What happens when a new clique or sect with an even odder bunch of libertarians form, what will they be called neo-neo-libertarians? >:}
Chakra Hammer on March 7, 2008 at 4:51 AM
Oh, how sad is this day.
I’m weeping.
Really, I’m glad he’s gone. He could NEVER have been taken seriously.
madmonkphotog on March 7, 2008 at 6:18 AM
I hope someone interviews some of ronpauls supporters (oh, say, Cindy Sheehan or David Duke) before they pull a “heavens-gate” on us. It could be good for a few laughs.
Squiggy on March 7, 2008 at 6:29 AM
He and his followers from Happydale can now concentrate all their time to figuring out what is causing those avalanches on Mars, not to mention that strange planet getting ready to fire Gamma rays at the earth!
Mongo perhaps?
pilamaye on March 7, 2008 at 6:45 AM
Ron who?
jimbo2008 on March 7, 2008 at 7:14 AM
Yes, but don’t let the issues cloud the judgment of “neo” whatever commenters. It’s much easier to call someone crazy than listen to what they are actually saying, which says a lot about the level of intellect one finds on these comment pages. Don’t ya know that being a “neo” whatever is a “new” conservative value? There are some smart people here, they are just a little misguided.
As for the rest of you big government, deficit spending, invade the word-invite the world clowns: you failed to support conservative, so you will get four more years of socialism. And yes, McCarthy and the “Birtcheresque cranks” were right about communism, contrary the the historical revisionism of AP. Y’all were duped by GWB when he told you he was a conservative, but “special” people have a short term memory loss, apparently.
Nothing in those newletters was untrue or even remotely objectionable, it just served a purpose to smear a decent candidate. Dr. Paul is far more sane than Juanita McAmnesty. But we are not allowed to discuss Juanita’s own racist words or his senility.
As for the “truther” badmouthing: None of you are skeptical of what your government tells you. You believe everything you are told like good little non-thinkers. People who are skeptical serve an important role in society, just not your society. In your society, no one questions big government.
The truther theories are bogus, for certain, but a healthy society needs people to keep government honest.
As for the gold standard: Why do we need a gold standard when the money isn’t worth anything anyway? We can just print off as many bills as we want. That’s really responsible, and the conservative thing to do, right?
I think Allahpundit may be a crypto-leftist, sent here to badmouth conservatives in a divide and conquer pogrom. I would not vote for Dr. Paul, but no one can deny his adherence to strict constructionist constitutional interpretation, which is something lost upon the cult of republicanist brownshirt apparatchiks. None of you did any better as a candidate in this election, so you really cannot cast any stones.
Enjoy your “new” bigger government, more taxes, more illegals and social services for them, and the abolition of American sovranty. Marque el “dos” por espanol, paisanos.
petit bourgeois on March 7, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Ron Paul is the only candidate to . . . aw forget it.
NoDonkey on March 7, 2008 at 8:33 AM
When your base is made up of dope smokers, neo-nazi’s, truthers and the rest, then yes, you should be dismissed.
yes, we should be. I skeptical of Alex Jones who has no degree in structural engeneering and for some damn reason I just hafta believe that engneers at Popular Mechanics just know a little bit more about the science involved than Alex Jones and Rosie Odonnell.
Well, seeing Ron Paul already has the fever, it wouldn’t be too long before he jumped in for his share of baby back ribs.
Mind you, none of the following is authorized by the constitution. But Ron Paul supporters can chug kool-aid faster than a college senior can down a beer bong.
1. $25,000 for the Brazoria County Sheriff to establish a “Children’s Identification and Location Database.”
2. $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp.
3. $2.3 million for shrimp fishing research.
4. $3 million to “secure the acquisition of the McGinnes tract, protecting its critical natural resources and helping consolidate refuge inholdings.”
5. $5 million to expand the cancer center at Brazosport Hospital.
6. $200,000 for the Matagorda Episcopal Health Outreach Program to fund a “National Health Service Corp Scholar.”
7. $4.5 million to study the effects of the health risks of vanadium.
8. $3 million to test imported shrimp for antibiotics. (Does anyone think there is a big shrimp industry in Paul’s district?)
9. $10 million to repair the Galveston railways causeway bridge.
10. $1.18 million for “Personalized Medicine in Asthma”
11. $100,000 for a “data-driven automated system for nursing students on the Texas Gulf Coast.”
12. $257,000 to “prepare graduates from the doctoral program at the University of Texas Medical Branch School of Nursing to assume faculty roles in schools for nursing with a deficient number of doctoral level faculty.”
13. $1.4 million to buy buses for the Golden Crescent Regional Commission.
14. $2 million to buy buses for Galveston.
15. $5 million for highway spending.
16. $2 million to replace facilities for Galveston bus service.
17. $3 million to replace facilities for the Golden Crescent Regional bus facility.
18. $2 million to repair the Galveston trolley.
19. $2.14 million to renovate the Edna Theater.
20. $13 million for I-69 highway project.
21. $30 million the Texas Maritime Academy to refurbish a ship.
22. $4.5 million to maintain Cedar Bayou. Plus another $9 million
23. $15 million for “construction at GIWW Matagorda Bay.” Plus another $5.8 million
24. $100,000 to maintain Chocolate Bayou.
25. $2.5 million to maintain Double Bayou.
Ron Paul, the man who will save America one shrimp cocktail at a time.
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Neo seems to mean to say one thing and support another idea. We are all Kristolian Republicans now; wrap your arms around FDR. When they sought to bust the small government types no one thought they would be as successful as they are today. One of their idols, Heidegger was right:
“What is thought provoking, in this thought provoking time, is that we are still not thinking.”
People want to say they support small government, but end up supporting Rockefellers. How could anything be contrary, everyone on my Talk Radio stations say basically the exact same thing? Many get what they deserve, its too bad they have to ruin it for the rest of us. A neolibertarian or a neconservative is a liberal in denial unless you are a paid mouthpiece.
LevStrauss on March 7, 2008 at 9:51 AM
Good! We finally get all this limited government kookery out of the way so we can nominate a PROUD LIBERAL REPUBLICAN! Viva Che Juan McCain!
Ars Moriendi on March 7, 2008 at 10:09 AM
McCain is just as “liberal” as Paul is, see their lifetime ACU ratings. both score 82.
whats impressive for McCain is he took ZERO in Pork last year while being one of it not the most powerful Senator. Paul, took over $400 MILLION in pork request.
Paul does nothing other than set back the legitimate freedom movement decades. he’s a mental midget, defamed the constitution and history to fit what he wishes it said/was. and lectured people on it to boot. Then you have the Racist and conspiratorial newsletters, pandering to truthers and other conspiracy theories he openly endorsed. Its pathetic.
jp on March 7, 2008 at 10:13 AM
It’s true, IM(very)HO.
I can find much to agree with when I read the libertarian platform, and I like them being around; but, when you run into a libertarian, you never know what side of the coin they’re coming from. You’re not long before discovering that you get into the same old arguments embodied in the entire political spectrum. It’s as if they are a microcosm of the country itself.
Saltysam on March 7, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Voted for his opponent in the House primary, but to no avail. I guess he’s likely to still be my Rep. I don’t see my district voting Democrat in the fall.
TX Mom on March 7, 2008 at 10:33 AM
He didn’t have to spend money on advertising since all his nutroot followers were busily making banners and placing them in their front yards, the side of the highway, etc.
All I can say is buh-bye, good riddance, and please, PLEASE take the nutroots with you to obscurity-ville!
Liberty or Death on March 7, 2008 at 11:08 AM
K. Thanx. Bye now.
Et tu Brute on March 7, 2008 at 11:20 AM
he actually has a Libertarian Party candidate running against him. no Dems are running.
jp on March 7, 2008 at 11:35 AM
Blah blah blah Ron Paul sucks, blah blah blah…
Enjoy your next truly wacko President Juan McInsane, Allah…you’ve earned him.
fossten on March 7, 2008 at 12:08 PM
ACU ratings are garbage, giving money to the UN is considered conservative? What about mandatory gun locks? People need to look at the bills that are in those ratings and see, first what they are and then what the justification was for voting for or against them on floor speeches to understand if it was a conservative vote. Voting for most of those Republican budgets don’t strike me as conservative. Neither would something like No Child Left Behind. It all depends if you think that Conservative means Conservative or Conservative means Republican. I think that the ACU should change their name to the ARU.
LevStrauss on March 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Amen. Finally.
Maybe the 3%ers will attach to Nader, now.
desertdweller on March 7, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I have one question for the Iraq occupation supporters. What is your goal? What do you hope to achieve, and what makes you believe that Iraq is going to turn out any different than Lebanon, Gaza, Iran, or Egypt. All are places where terrorist organizations have gained elected offices, so when the fundies begin to win offices in Iraq what will all this have been for?
DFCtomm on March 7, 2008 at 1:22 PM
I took a brief look at some of the Paultard forums; they’ve trying to convince themselves that:
1. ABC is lying about Paul dropping out.
2. Ron Paul would win as an independant.
3. They can somehow still force a brokered convention that leads to Paul getting nominated.
4. They aren’t completely and hopelessly insane.
Hollowpoint on March 7, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Have you not been paying attention? Clearly not if at this point in the game you have no idea.
I for one was against going into Iraq, I didn’t even vote for Bush either time.
When I got on board was when AQ made Iraq their battle front. Remember AQ? You guys are always going on about Osama Bin Laden, well, is he still the head honcho for AQ? Did I miss the news broadcast where he signed a peace treaty with the United States? If Osama Bin Laden is the head of the serpent and we can’t reach him to strike the head, does that mean we ignore the rest of the body? Or do we start chopping at what is exposed and work our way to the top?
I know what you will say, and you will say it because the issue is not about AQ or OBL. It never has been and it never will be. It is just your hatred for Bush and blame America first mindset.
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 1:39 PM
You forgot 5.
They already think drugs have been legalized.
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Get your facts strait you twit! I am not blame America first and you should be glad you’re a faceless page, and not currently in my presence. Think for a minute has anybody said what the goal in Iraq is. How will creating a democracy that will support terrorism a worthwhile goal? The problem is Islam and not Iraq’s lack of democracy.
DFCtomm on March 7, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Yes. Don’t you know?
The goal in Iraq is now, and always has been, to clear away the indigenous peoples from the land to make room for more blimp hangars for the growing rEVOLution!!
Et tu Brute on March 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM
We so far have a smear about “blame America first”, and now a blimp joke. You’re not winning me over to the war here. It’s a serious question, after the lives, limbs, and treasure what are we going to have. We’re going to have Egypt with oil, except it will be the Al Sadr militias instead of the Muslim Brotherhood, but I’m sure the next post will contain a gold standard joke.
DFCtomm on March 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Tuff talk, you sound just like a Paul supporter, you haven’t broken rank.
Actually, it is Paul who leads the blame America first crowd. Seeing that is the crowd you choose to run with than you shall also wear the label.
The blame America first syndrome is a symptom of a mindset that views America as fundamentally immoral. Paul says that it is our actions that cause the Islamists to hate us. And of course the problem with that line of thinking is that it ignores the ideology of our enemies who would attack the United States and our interests whether we are active abroad or not. The “Fortress America” position of Paul is extremely dangerous in the 21st century when our imperialist Islamic enemies have accesses to nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons, and the missiles to deliver them. Paul ignores that fact that the Islamists hate “us” because we are Christian, we are democratic, we are free, we are secular, we are capitalists, we are successful…. It has nothing to do with our foreign policy. Whether we gave a dime to Israel or not, Al-Qaeda would have still attacked the U.S. on 9/11.
Islam was been at war with the west since its birth.
Then again, maybe Paul would think that it was Jefferson’s fault that the Barbary Pirates attacked our shipping.
On international affairs, Paul is no different than any leftist. The root cause, to him, of all the world’s ills is the United States. And one can only hold that view if one thinks that the U.S. is a fundamentally flawed nation, morally bankrupt, malicious, and malevolent.
Be thankful Paul doesn’t run a battered women’s clinic, because the first question he’d ask, would be, “What did you do to your husband to make him so mad that he hit you?”
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Nope. Already did that one way up the thread.
I’m working on a new joke about how Herr Gut Doktor managed to fleece millions of dollars out of his half-witted supporters and they don’t even realize it.
Maybe the punch line will involve pie-eyed Paulbot followers dreamily emptying their parents bank accounts into the rEVOLution/Ronulan war chest while they fantasize of the paranoid, protectionist, non-interventionist, xenophobic Amerika that never in its entire history ever existed, while The Only Krank Who Thought He Could Save Amerika giggles and slyly slips out the back door with the stash.
Sweet.
Yeah, maybe something along those lines…
Et tu Brute on March 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I am not a Paul supporter you twit. I actually gave money to Thompson, but people have attacked Paul for his stance on the war in Iraq, and that I can’t understand. Everybody I talk to that supports the war can’t answer that question. The forced spread of democracy is useless against Islam.
Muslims have proved they know how to manipulate democratic elections to position terrorists into government offices, but democracy is going to be the big club we use to beat Islam into submission? I’m sorry but the premise that underlies the war makes no sense to me. It does seem to be a basic misconception that President Bush has shown in both his immigration policy and the war in Iraq.
President Bush seems to believe that Americans are a product of America and not the reverse. He seems to think that in Iraq if he sets up the required conditions that he can produce Americans whether they wish to be or not. He also thinks he can allow an unlimited stream of legal, and illegal immigrants into this country and they will magically be made Americans.
DFCtomm on March 7, 2008 at 5:16 PM
The forced spread of democracy is not the reason we’re in Iraq. Iraq is not a “war”, it’s a battle. One battle in the war against Islamo-fascism. OBL thinks it’s the front lines in this war (he said so), but you think it’s about “forcing democracy”. I heard someone who agrees with you say “we’re forcing freedom” on them. I can’t imagine a more stupid statement.
As for Bush, while I voted for him twice, I would’ve loved to have had a better choice. He’s done hundreds of things, but exactly three of them were good. He’s picked a couple of good Justices, he’s cut taxes and he’s fighting our enemies. He has most definitely left our borders wide open, and I’m terrified McCain will do the same.
Ron Paul would likely have closed the borders, but who knows for sure? His honesty hasn’t exactly been stellar.
Squiggy on March 7, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Lets see, you supported Thompson who supports the war in Iraq. Thompson does not believe as Paul does, yet, you supported him.
So, seeing Thompson supports the war in Iraq, and also a war with Iran if need be (Which BTW Paul says America is trying to force a war with Iran, create another gulf of Tonkin) how could you ever vote for Thompson seeing he is a neo-con imperialist by Ron Paul standards which you seem adore?
Again, if you do not know why we support the war in Iraq, then there is only one place a person can put there head where it is that dark.
Ask yourself this, who stands to win if we lose?
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Let dennis Miller explain it too you.
Bush, Kerry & Iraq
On Iraq
RobertInAustin on March 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM
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