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	<title>Comments on: Obey passes mash notes on pork?</title>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-996595</link>
		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops.  The above should refer to Obey instead of Reid.</description>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-996585</link>
		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is sooo partisan. Maybe the Republicans should say nothing about the issue except to ask the Democratic response to the letter.
snaggletoothie on March 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, how about this:  Copy the entire letter, including Harry Reid&#039;s own signature, and then re-address it to all the DEMOCRAT Congressmen - including Harry Reid.

Then start screaming at the top of their lungs about how all the Democrats refused to respond to their own leader&#039;s survey on pork spending; and that Harry Reid also refused - &lt;em&gt;even though he wrote it himself&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is sooo partisan. Maybe the Republicans should say nothing about the issue except to ask the Democratic response to the letter.<br />
snaggletoothie on March 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, how about this:  Copy the entire letter, including Harry Reid&#8217;s own signature, and then re-address it to all the DEMOCRAT Congressmen &#8211; including Harry Reid.</p>
<p>Then start screaming at the top of their lungs about how all the Democrats refused to respond to their own leader&#8217;s survey on pork spending; and that Harry Reid also refused &#8211; <em>even though he wrote it himself</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnnyD</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994817</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnnyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t trust any Dem about any promises they make. Too many times they have broken said promise. 

Worst still, the Repubs fall for it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust any Dem about any promises they make. Too many times they have broken said promise. </p>
<p>Worst still, the Repubs fall for it too.</p>
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		<title>By: 91Veteran</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994661</link>
		<dc:creator>91Veteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course, the Republicans could beat them to the punch by accusing Democrats of sending a letter asking that only they be allowed to add pork…

logis on March 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What Republicans need to do is call their bluff, and every single one needs to agree to it...then hammer the &#039;Crats loudly and publicly for continuing the theft.

The &#039;Crats would fold like a cheap suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course, the Republicans could beat them to the punch by accusing Democrats of sending a letter asking that only they be allowed to add pork…</p>
<p>logis on March 5, 2008 at 7:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>What Republicans need to do is call their bluff, and every single one needs to agree to it&#8230;then hammer the &#8216;Crats loudly and publicly for continuing the theft.</p>
<p>The &#8216;Crats would fold like a cheap suit.</p>
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		<title>By: shooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>shooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Kudos to Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN) who scored an admirable 98%-the only Democrat to score above 20%.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.
My favs-
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;$1 million to the Center &lt;/strong&gt;for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, requested by Rep. &lt;strong&gt;John Murtha&lt;/strong&gt; (D-PA). &lt;strong&gt;No congressional member could confirm the existence of the alleged Center&lt;/strong&gt;. Amendment failed, 98-326.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.
&lt;blockquote&gt;$2 million to establish the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Rangel Center&lt;/strong&gt; for Public Service&quot; at City College of New York, &lt;strong&gt;requested by none other then Rep. Charlie Rangel&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
.
too bad Peloser doesn&#039;t vote, she might have received a minus 4 (-4)
.
End result?
The average Republican score was 43%. The average Democratic score was 2%.
Get a form for that, Obey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing.</p>
<blockquote><p>Kudos to Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN) who scored an admirable 98%-the only Democrat to score above 20%.</p></blockquote>
<p>.<br />
My favs-</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>$1 million to the Center </strong>for Instrumented Critical Infrastructure in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, requested by Rep. <strong>John Murtha</strong> (D-PA). <strong>No congressional member could confirm the existence of the alleged Center</strong>. Amendment failed, 98-326.</p></blockquote>
<p>.</p>
<blockquote><p>$2 million to establish the &#8220;<strong>Rangel Center</strong> for Public Service&#8221; at City College of New York, <strong>requested by none other then Rep. Charlie Rangel</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>.<br />
too bad Peloser doesn&#8217;t vote, she might have received a minus 4 (-4)<br />
.<br />
End result?<br />
The average Republican score was 43%. The average Democratic score was 2%.<br />
Get a form for that, Obey.</p>
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		<title>By: old trooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>old trooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point neither party can claim any moral high ground on pork, perhaps the finest argument ever for term limits.

We honestly have more Government than America, even with a healthy economy, can truly afford now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point neither party can claim any moral high ground on pork, perhaps the finest argument ever for term limits.</p>
<p>We honestly have more Government than America, even with a healthy economy, can truly afford now.</p>
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		<title>By: snaggletoothie</title>
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		<dc:creator>snaggletoothie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sooo partisan.  Maybe the Republicans should say nothing about the issue except to ask the Democratic response to the letter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sooo partisan.  Maybe the Republicans should say nothing about the issue except to ask the Democratic response to the letter.</p>
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		<title>By: rockhauler</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994375</link>
		<dc:creator>rockhauler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994327&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blankminde&lt;/a&gt;
are they still doing &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg417.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;revenue sharing&lt;/a&gt;&#039;; perhaps by another name. It was a program started by Nixon. Rather than reduce federal taxes, because the federal government had too much money, and no idea where they were going to spend it, Nixon used it to buy support from political power brokers. 

That is probably where all that FICA revenue went. 

Then there is something called &#039;americorp&#039;. 

We have a 3 trillion dollar budget, and its not enough. [expletive deleted]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994327" rel="nofollow">blankminde</a><br />
are they still doing &#8216;<a href="http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg417.cfm" rel="nofollow">revenue sharing</a>&#8216;; perhaps by another name. It was a program started by Nixon. Rather than reduce federal taxes, because the federal government had too much money, and no idea where they were going to spend it, Nixon used it to buy support from political power brokers. </p>
<p>That is probably where all that FICA revenue went. </p>
<p>Then there is something called &#8216;americorp&#8217;. </p>
<p>We have a 3 trillion dollar budget, and its not enough. [expletive deleted]</p>
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		<title>By: blankminde</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/05/obey-passes-mash-notes-on-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-994327</link>
		<dc:creator>blankminde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never liked the thought of federally generated taxes being used for state projects.  I think I like the idea of Republicans supporting that even less though...

How is pork still an issue if Americans hate it?  Are we really powerless to hold our legislation accountable?  Yep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never liked the thought of federally generated taxes being used for state projects.  I think I like the idea of Republicans supporting that even less though&#8230;</p>
<p>How is pork still an issue if Americans hate it?  Are we really powerless to hold our legislation accountable?  Yep.</p>
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		<title>By: madmonkphotog</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmonkphotog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;responsible earmarks at a reasonable level &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe this is called an oxymoron.

Just like &quot;comprehensive immigration reform&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>responsible earmarks at a reasonable level </p></blockquote>
<p>I believe this is called an oxymoron.</p>
<p>Just like &#8220;comprehensive immigration reform&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: logis</title>
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		<dc:creator>logis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, when the Republicans all (of course) refuse to respond to his idiotic one-sided letter, the Democrats will accuse them of &quot;refusing&quot; to limit pork.

Of course, the Republicans could beat them to the punch by accusing Democrats of sending a letter asking that only they be allowed to add pork... 

But I guess we won&#039;t be doing that, will we?  The Republican leadership has decided the &quot;New Tone&quot; worked so incredibly well that we need to expand it into a policy of &quot;Unilaterally Assured Suicide.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, when the Republicans all (of course) refuse to respond to his idiotic one-sided letter, the Democrats will accuse them of &#8220;refusing&#8221; to limit pork.</p>
<p>Of course, the Republicans could beat them to the punch by accusing Democrats of sending a letter asking that only they be allowed to add pork&#8230; </p>
<p>But I guess we won&#8217;t be doing that, will we?  The Republican leadership has decided the &#8220;New Tone&#8221; worked so incredibly well that we need to expand it into a policy of &#8220;Unilaterally Assured Suicide.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TBinSTL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBinSTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, they better find a way to make it work for them or they&#039;ll just lose out to somebody that will bring home the bacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, they better find a way to make it work for them or they&#8217;ll just lose out to somebody that will bring home the bacon.</p>
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		<title>By: shibumiglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>shibumiglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Not only did he not vote for any pork reform bill, he actually voted against his own reform bill. He had proposed to strike all earmarks from the Labor-HHS bill, and then opposed the idea when it came to a vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Could this possibly be because of &lt;strong&gt;riders&lt;/strong&gt;?
Ed - I really don&#039;t mean to insult your reporting, but the effect of riders on bills is a passion of mine, and one that should be brought into the public awareness. &lt;strong&gt;Careers&lt;/strong&gt; are brought to an end via voting records where it is not stated that a rider is why someone voted against something that otherwise would have passed with flying colors and been applauded by the constituency. It&#039;s something that pisses me off greatly, because the population is manipulated by their ignorance, and no one tries to educate them in this regard. It&#039;s a MAJOR power that politicians have, and it&#039;s entirely destructive.
Whew.
/rant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not only did he not vote for any pork reform bill, he actually voted against his own reform bill. He had proposed to strike all earmarks from the Labor-HHS bill, and then opposed the idea when it came to a vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>Could this possibly be because of <strong>riders</strong>?<br />
Ed &#8211; I really don&#8217;t mean to insult your reporting, but the effect of riders on bills is a passion of mine, and one that should be brought into the public awareness. <strong>Careers</strong> are brought to an end via voting records where it is not stated that a rider is why someone voted against something that otherwise would have passed with flying colors and been applauded by the constituency. It&#8217;s something that pisses me off greatly, because the population is manipulated by their ignorance, and no one tries to educate them in this regard. It&#8217;s a MAJOR power that politicians have, and it&#8217;s entirely destructive.<br />
Whew.<br />
/rant</p>
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		<title>By: Zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...David Obey has no standing whatsoever to scold anyone on pork...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But he may have done us a favor trying to get our professional political spenders on the record, ear marks or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;David Obey has no standing whatsoever to scold anyone on pork&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>But he may have done us a favor trying to get our professional political spenders on the record, ear marks or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We have argued that the House caucus undermined their position on pork reform by not committing to a unilateral moratorium.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I understand &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.house.gov/hensarling/rsc/sworn-off.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this page&lt;/a&gt;, republications are taking the pledge and it&#039;s not just for 2009. (via Instapundit)  It&#039;s up to 22 at the moment.

And Waxman is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;We have argued that the House caucus undermined their position on pork reform by not committing to a unilateral moratorium.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>As I understand <a href="http://www.house.gov/hensarling/rsc/sworn-off.shtml" rel="nofollow">this page</a>, republications are taking the pledge and it&#8217;s not just for 2009. (via Instapundit)  It&#8217;s up to 22 at the moment.</p>
<p>And Waxman is there.</p>
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		<title>By: aengus</title>
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		<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives have moral principles and standards which both they and their opponents expect them to abide where liberals have no moral standards and conservatives recoil from exacting any on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives have moral principles and standards which both they and their opponents expect them to abide where liberals have no moral standards and conservatives recoil from exacting any on them.</p>
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