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Hugo says Venezuela doesn’t want war, but the US does

posted at 5:50 pm on March 5, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Hugo Chavez accused the US of fomenting a war between Venezuela and Colombia as part of an effort to colonize his nation. The socialist leader insists that he wants nothing but peace, but failed to explain why he mobilized ten battalions to the Colombian border without any provocation from Alvaro Uribe’s government. Meanwhile, the US has managed to get Ecuador and Colombia into negotiations to dial down the tensions:

President Hugo Chavez charged Wednesday that Colombia and its allies in Washington are responsible for the intensifying crisis in this region — and said perpetual conflict with the United States is inevitable.

“It must be said: They, the empire and its lackeys, are war. We are peace. We are the path to peace,” Chavez said in a televised speech, his first since Colombia alleged that documents found in a leftist rebel’s computer show the Venezuelan leader has been supporting Colombian guerrillas for years.

Chavez, who ordered 10 battalions of troops to reinforce Venezuela’s border with Colombia after Colombian troops entered Ecuador on Saturday to attack a rebel hideout, spoke as diplomats struggled to defuse the crisis.

In Washington, the Organization of American States approved a compromise resolution drafted jointly by Ecuador and Colombia that declared the raid a violation of Ecuador’s sovereignty. It also called for OAS Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza to lead a delegation to both countries in hopes of helping them calm tensions.

In related news, the US has expressed some skepticism over claims by the Uribe government that FARC intended to build dirty bombs from uranium. Reporters given access to the memos say that the group discussed reselling the material to international terrorists for fundraising, not for making bombs themselves. The difference is hardly academic, although the uranium itself apparently is. So far, no one has produced any evidence that FARC even attempted to find uranium, let alone purchase it.

As far as fomenting war goes, the US seems to be acting against that interest. While fully supporting Colombia’s right to defend itself against FARC, we apparently got Colombia to admit that they violated Ecuadorian sovereignty in their raid. The last thing the Bush administration needs at the moment is a South American entanglement over FARC, especially with the open issues in Afghanistan and Iraq. That doesn’t mean the US would not come to Uribe’s aid, but despite Chavez’ rhetoric, we aren’t looking for a fighting war in the jungle, either.

The situation remains very touchy. Chavez still has his army mobilized on the border, but Uribe has pointedly refused to follow suit. Colombia wants to de-escalate the tension, sensing that it has overplayed its hand in the FARC raid and has alienated more than just Chavez and Ecuadorian leader Rafael Correa. Uribe would do best by allowing Chavez to bellow a while and then declare victory and go home. He got what he wanted in the raid, and the intel showing Chavez as a terrorist financier will do its damage.


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Chavez is like the Moe Howard (Three Stooges) version of Hitler, named “Moe Hailstone.”

Merovign on March 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Chavez is a pig!

kcd on March 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Go ahead. Pull the trigger bobo. We’ll eat your desayuna!

warriorlawyer on March 5, 2008 at 5:57 PM

We are peace. We are the path to peace

and the path to peace run alongside the hiking-trail of moving 10 battalions to the Colombian-Venezualan border.

Frozen Tex on March 5, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Again, I say: SEND IN THE SPECIAL FORCES. They’ve negotiated peace in that region, before, and I’m sure they’d be more than happy to talk to Thuggo Chavez, again.

Virus-X on March 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Hah! This guy is such a whiney little baby. This is textbook dictator.

“No no! Don’t pay attention to my failed policies, my small-man temper tantrums, my impotence on the world stage and my crush on Cindy Sheehan…look, over there! It’s the eviiiil United States trying to colonize us!”
—Hugo “The Blowhard” Chavez; icon of the American Left

Well, Sean Penn, Danny Glover, Super Intelligent Super Model Naomi Campbell…how do y’all like them apples now?

Montana on March 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Don’t watch the traditional forces, keep an eye on the proxies.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Si Se Puede!

Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

There’s nothing the United states needs less at this time than to get in a South American war. Cara de cerdo is crzazy as usual.

TooTall on March 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Virus-X on March 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM

From where? Ours are a bit tied up at the moment.

Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Well, Sean Penn, Danny Glover, Super Intelligent Super Model Naomi Campbell…how do y’all like them apples now?

Montana on March 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Naomi Campbell likes that fat bastard?! More reason to thoroughly dislike her.

Virus-X on March 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Oh, and, I saw a link that summarized Venezuela’s military.

Guys…they use tanks like the M118 Hellcat (Tank destroyer). Those are late WW2/Korean War era stuff. You know, the stuff we put on cement blocks in front of National Guard armories.

Hugo won’t do a dang thing. There will be no war, no conflict, no nada. The guy is a chump. A bully of words only. I smell sulfur!!!!

Montana on March 5, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Naomi Campbell likes that fat bastard?! More reason to thoroughly dislike her.

Virus-X on March 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Ya there were rumors of a possible date between them. That woman is vapid. And her career is almost over. She is headed to a big crash.

Montana on March 5, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Uribe would do best by allowing Chavez to bellow a while and then declare victory and go home. He got what he wanted in the raid, and the intel showing Chavez as a terrorist financier will do its damage.

Exactly. Hugo got caught with his britches down. The more he blows, the sillier he looks. Hopefully, documentation of his terrorist involvement will also create a bit more uneasiness among the other SA countries about the viper in their midst, and it can’t create much good feeling at home. Game, set, match to Colombia.

a capella on March 5, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Since Mussolini was called Il Duce,
I’m going to name Chavez El Douche.

Exurban Jon on March 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Reporters given access to the memos say that the group discussed reselling the material to international terrorists for fundraising, not for making bombs themselves. The difference is hardly academic, although the uranium itself apparently is. So far, no one has produced any evidence that FARC even attempted to find uranium, let alone purchase it.

So, I guess this means we don’t need to worry about FARC. I mean they only had serious conversation about providing uranium to terrorists. It’s not like they did it.

thuja on March 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Beware – un hombre loco!

Entelechy on March 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM

I think Hugo and Kucinich were seperated at birth, both have the same habit of talking out their A$$!

dmann on March 5, 2008 at 6:22 PM

As far as fomenting war goes, the US seems to be acting against that interest. While fully supporting Colombia’s right to defend itself against FARC, we apparently got Colombia to admit that they violated Ecuadorian sovereignty in their raid.

Problem with this is that if Ecuador was not policing this area, than by definition it did not have soverignty over it.

jones on March 5, 2008 at 6:25 PM

This whole mess was setup by Hugo. He funded the terrorists. He waits for Columbia to get fed up and cross the border to kill the radicals. They get killed. He invades. Except he has a problem; it’s not his border that was crossed. His comment: “Borders? I don’t need no stinking borders!”

Rod on March 5, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Since Mussolini was called Il Duce,
I’m going to name Chavez El Douche.

Exurban Jon on March 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Good one and oh, so fitting.

TooTall on March 5, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Yep, special forces–aka ICBM. Drop an unarmed one in his backyard and tell him to cease and desist. He can save face by “graciously” calling off his wardogs, and some zoomie in some bunker gets a bigger thrill than xbox will ever give him. ‘Cept he won’t be able to talk about it.

davidk on March 5, 2008 at 6:29 PM

The only peace that socialist thugs like Chavez offer is that of the grave.

ZK on March 5, 2008 at 6:34 PM

This calls for immediate action!

We need a speech… a carefully worded speech that takes advantage of our deep respect for Venezuela’s Presidente, Juan Valdez.. TO THE UN!

“We want to assure Mr.Iglesias, er Chavez, that we think he is a FINE singer and that we appreciate the coffee that he and his little burrito have been sending from their rich mountain-grown haciendas! We are also VERY sorry about that “Frito Bandito” thing and have switched to Cool Ranch Doritos out of respect for his swarthy and fragrant RoTel cheesy bean dip heritage.

As far as anything military… Well, we’re kinda busy right now, and really don’t even have you on the radar, but if you’re really hurting, we can ship down a couple busloads of feminists who’ll be happy to whip up on anyone with a surplus of macho. Just call us if they get out of hand.

Oh! Can you get us Ricky Martin’s autograph?”

That’ll do it!

heldmyw on March 5, 2008 at 6:42 PM

Bring It, Hugo!

America will squish you like a cucarocha!

localmalcontent on March 5, 2008 at 6:48 PM

This guy needs to be rid of..he’s a punk.

j0 on March 5, 2008 at 6:48 PM

Hugo doesn’t want war, he wants empire. I will open a nice bottle of champagne the day they hang this guy.

Zorro on March 5, 2008 at 6:56 PM

Let’s send down Jimmy Carter. He can sit down and talk to Hugo and make him understand we mean no harm.

dentalque on March 5, 2008 at 6:58 PM

10 battalions? That’s a lot of donkeys. Sorry… Burros.

2Tru2Tru on March 5, 2008 at 6:58 PM

I guess ole Pat Robertson was right after all.

labrat on March 5, 2008 at 7:05 PM

Huh? Chavez sends 10 battalions to the border, the US sends none, and the US wants war? No comprendo, Senor!

But it might be a good idea to send a battleship with a few cruise missiles north of the shores of Venezuela. One tank goes into Colombia, and a cruise missile meets the poco loco cucaracha de Caracas, with apologies to Harry Belafonte and Cindy Sheehan.

Steve Z on March 5, 2008 at 7:07 PM

2Tru2Tru on March 5, 2008 at 6:58 PM

…or asses… in the Biblical sense of course.

labrat on March 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

It’s fairly interesting how things are working out in regard to the dispute between Colombia and Ecuador.

1. First, I would say that Colombia has come out of the OAS meeting fairly well, by the looks of things. I say that because, obviously, everyone was going to be upset at the crossing of the Ecuadorean border but, in the end, Colombia has not been condemned for it by the OAS.

2. Colombia has acknowledged that it crossed the Ecuadorean border. I disagree with Ed in that I don’t think this had anything to do with US diplomacy, or anyone else’s. Colombia admitted from the moment the first announcement was made that Reyes was killed inside Ecuador. The Foreign Minister re-admitted it again in a formal statement made Sunday evening in which he apologized. So, it was obvious that Colombia was going to admit it.

3. Given Colombia’s admission, it was therefore remarkable that they have escaped without an OAS condemnation, considering the nature of the OAS which places great importance on national sovereignty.

4. A great deal of credit must go to the Colombian Ambassador at the OAS, Carlos Ospina, who made a brilliant presentation yesterday in his defence of Colombia. It’s a shame if you don’t understand Spanish because it was a remarkable piece of advocacy on behalf of his country. His was the only speech that received an ovation.

5. It is obvious that Ecuador and Venezuela have been caught with their zippers down. Their response has been bluster.

6. One example of where they have been caught out is their contention that the correspondence found on Reyes computers are fakes. Even if that wasn’t just plain silly (given (a)Colombia’s offer to make the computers and their contents available for international inspection and (b)the fact that the armed forces took video of the discovery of the computers, so that continuity of evidence can be established) the fact that the Ecuadorean Security Minister admitted the meeting with Reyes proves the contents of at least one of the letters. This means that,for Colombia to have faked the letters, they must have guessed really well. Ridiculous.

7. Pres. Uribe’s statement yesterday about making a complaint to the International Criminal Court will have to be reconsidered. The FARC are a lot of things but their acts do not meet the definition of “genocide” under the Rome Statute. There are other crimes under the Statute that he might be prosecuted for, but it may be better to go to the International Court of Justice…Venezuela has been in blatant violation of Security Council Resolutions against financing terrorism (Res. 1373) and has (together with Ecuador) been interfereing in Colombia’s internal affairs. This is now on the way to being well established by the documents found on the computer. I suspect that this is one reason why Colombia dodged a condemnation at the OAS; a lot of countries who disagreed with the cross-border incursion also have a lot of problems with Venezuela and Ecuador’s support of the FARC.

8. Finally, I would like to mention a name: Edilso Hernandez Leon. In too many of the news reports about the killing of Reyes and the other FARCs it is mentioned that one Colombian soldier was killed. To the world he may have been just an anonymous Colombian soldier, but he was a real person and his name was Edilson Hernandez Leon. He was a 33 year old professional soldier. He had a loving family, and he was proud to be in the Colombian forces. His family reports how he had a dream that he would participate in taking down either Reyes or “Mono Jojoy”, one of the FARC’s main commanders. He was to be married this July; last Christmas his brother said he should think about leaving the army. Hernandez’ response was that he would leave the service either on pension or in “wooden pyjamas” (meaning a coffin). In the end, it was the latter, but in dong so he accomplished his dream of getting Reyes.

Obviously, I didn’t know the guy, but I wanted to mention this because stories like this are in the papers here all the time. Canadians, Americans and others are rightly proud of their soldiers who do such brave work in Iraq and Afghanistan; but there are also Colombian soldiers, equally brave, who are fighting for their country. And dying. They go into jungles, mountains, rivers and deserts chasing the FARC and a lot get killed. But, like Sol. Hernandez they too are fighting for their country.

In all the mess this week with Chavez, Ecuador and the OAS I just didn’t want it to be forgotten that one real hero died for his country.

Blaise on March 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Exurban Jon on March 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Hahaha.

aengus on March 5, 2008 at 7:11 PM

Blaise on March 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Thanks for the info Blaise

You are right about Sol. Hernandez, anyone that dies for his country deserves to be honored and not forgotten.

F15Mech on March 5, 2008 at 7:20 PM

This picture looks strangely familiar.

Are you sure it’s not of Manuel Noriaga just before he was carted off to the federal pen in the US?

pocomoco on March 5, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Hugo doesn’t actually want a war, but he does want to be on the brink of one, so he can declare a state of emergency, mobilize militias, and so on.

His referendum failed, so he’s gonna try for that dictatorship by other means.

sandberg on March 5, 2008 at 7:36 PM

I will open a nice bottle of champagne the day they hang this guy. – Zorro

Mussolini, Ceacesceu, Saddam … yeah, Chavez would love to hang next to his heroes. Pour me a glass too!

This dude is like a freakin’ child. Kids blame others for whatever it is they themselves did.

Tony737 on March 5, 2008 at 7:44 PM

I hope we provide some air support for the Columbians. I’d enjoy seeing footage of our F-15s taking out some Su-37s.

BOOOOOM! Splash.

Tony737 on March 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

kcd on March 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Seems more bat-boy then piggy

jdkchem on March 5, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Blaise, excellent post.

irishspy on March 5, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Can’t we just shoot Chavez and get this over with?

Let’s make this one short and sweet.

madmonkphotog on March 5, 2008 at 8:25 PM

I don’t think the Columbians need an excuse to kill FARCers in Ecuador at all.

Haven’t we learned anything through history? Whether it’s NVA in Laos and Cambodia, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and now Pakistan, Kurds in Iraq, or FARC in Ecuador…

Let the diplomats put out the fires after the fact, after the terrorist scum is dead.

reaganaut on March 5, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Let the diplomats put out the fires after the fact, after the terrorist scum is dead.

That is exactly what the Colombians have just done. They killed the terrorist scum and then gave justifications (excuses?) for what they did afterwards…. and they’ve come out of it quite well.

aengus on March 5, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Good news! The whole laptop thing is a CIA black ops psy action.

William Teach on March 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Hugo is ramping up the temperature in an attempt to divert attention to the empty shelves at the food stores in Venezuela. He has also nearly destroyed the Venezuelan military, replacing most of the competent officers with people loyal to him, personally.

Closing the border is going to make a bad situation a lot worse. A major percentage of the food sold in Venezuela comes from Colombia, and cannot be replaced without considerable additional cost. Milk, eggs, meat and just about everything else comes in via truck, and now those borders are “closed”. Bringing food from other suppliers is going to add to the cost, and to local inflation. Shelves are already empty, and costs are rising.

The USA and Colombia don’t have to do a thing- Chavez is his own worst enemy.

kenprice on March 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM

It is spooky how Chavez’s actions run parallel to those of Hitler.

Johan Klaus on March 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM

I hope we provide some air support for the Columbians. I’d enjoy seeing footage of our F-15s taking out some Su-37s.

BOOOOOM! Splash.

Tony737 on March 5, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Does Venezuela have SU-37’s? I thought their main fighter was the SU-30.

Regardless it does not matter.

I will bring the popcorn.

From the headline the other day, I seam to recall that Chavez’s AF consisted of approximately 80 planes.

As luck would have it a B-2 can carry 72 bombs.

Assuming a single target single bomb best case (won’t happen) situation. For every AC Chavez has we can take out 90% of then with a single US bomber with an ideal ground attack.

What I described was more then ideal for the US, however we still have 20 B-2’s in the USA. (On safety reserve I know, but if needed they will be deployed).

ANG F-15s and F-16s still in the states could also use some target practice.

Not to mention God knows how many F-14’s that are still waiting to be retired (that can be made combat ready in no time, not that it will ever come to that).

And that is just the US Air power.

Chavez is nothing more then an annoying mosquito buzzing around your ear.

He annoys you, and you try to wave him away, but once he tries to bite you swat him down.

He knows it and we know it.

Chavez is buzzing around and hoping that our politicians will NOT deploy a little bug spray.

F15Mech on March 6, 2008 at 12:50 AM

I bet that Leftists :::cough, Obama and Clinton::: believe that Chavez can be reasoned with.

baldilocks on March 6, 2008 at 12:54 AM

I bet that Leftists :::cough, Obama and Clinton::: believe that Chavez can be reasoned with.

baldilocks on March 6, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Chess vs Checkers

Obama/Clinton think about checkers.

They don’t even see Chavez as a threat at this time (he is not a threat but a possible situation that a president may need to deal with), it is not even on their radar.

They are still playing the checker game vs the chess game across the world stage.

If Chavez

F15Mech on March 6, 2008 at 4:03 AM

I warned that there should be no place on Earth where terrorists can rest and train and practice their deadly skills. I meant it. I said that we would act with others, if possible, and alone if necessary to ensure that terrorists have no sanctuary anywhere. Tonight, we have.

Ronald Reagen April 14, 1986

F15Mech on March 6, 2008 at 4:21 AM

You want to know the dirty little secret behind all of Chavez’s ranting? He needs us more than we need him. The only refineries capable of turning that Venezuelan sludge known as crude oil into something useful are here in the States. China won’t have anything up and running that could refine that stuff for a long time and there doesn’t seem to be any hurry on their part. Then theres the cost of shipping it there to have it refined. It’s cheaper to go up north than to send it around the world.
This is why Chavez is all talk his country’s economy (or his personal economy, either one) is largely based on oil sales to the US. He’s cutting his nose off to spite his face if he does that. If we wanted to hurt him, we could tell him that he is no longer allowed to ship his crap here. But we won’t do that either becuase we are drilling for our own.

Oh yeah, boycotting Citgo doesn’t send anyone a message. All oil companies use Venezuelan oil. Whenever, where ever you fill up, you’re putting money in his pocket.

Pcoop on March 6, 2008 at 6:53 AM

sorry, it’s we AREN’T drilling for our own oil.

Pcoop on March 6, 2008 at 6:54 AM

sensing that it has overplayed its hand in the FARC raid and has alienated more than just Chavez and Ecuadorian leader Rafael Correa

No! Uribe did exactly the right thing. Other than the quote an excellent post.

Blaise on March 5, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Fine comment, Blaise. I do think most of paragraph six is unconvincing. The videos and computer would be convincing in a criminal court. Given that one party to the dispute, Columbia, took the videos and possession of the computer, it is not convincing to a third party. The Security Minister/Reyes meeting is much more convincing.

burt on March 6, 2008 at 7:34 AM

F15Mech on March 6, 2008 at 4:03 AM

Sorry, you’re giving him more credit as a national threat to us than he deserves. Even among his own people his actions lately have generated a chorus for groans and eye rolling. Being seen with Ahmadinijiadawopbopaloobopawopbamboom in Iran is nothing more than publicity. He’s feeding his ego to make himself feel important. Nothing more.

Do the math
Ecuador has about 38000 troops total (average)
Venezuela has 34000 (roughly)
Colombia has over 200,000.

Ummm, anyone else NOT seeing this go anywhere other than finger pointing? Like I said, Chavez may be insane, he’s not stupid.

Pcoop on March 6, 2008 at 7:54 AM

‘the path to peace’ was that the ‘path to peace’ in Venezuela last summer/fall when the country descended into violence because of his stupidity?

Chavez really is a fool. It is hard to take him seriously sometimes. He is almost like a bad Comedy Central show that airs at 2am on Friday nights.

MannyT-vA on March 6, 2008 at 8:10 AM

read these blogs
http://caracaschronicles.blogspot.com/
http://blogs.salon.com/0001330/
http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/

It’s obvious that the man is self-destructing if you read these blogs. His time in power is limited. Even Venezuelan Military leader Raul Baduel said Chavez’s behavior was like a reality show, (not real with microphones all over the place.) This man is imploding before our eyes and it’s a matter of time before this man is no longer in power.

My trip down there soon is going to be real interesting.

Pcoop on March 6, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Hugo’s right. We need to help decent Venezuelans give him a Ceauşescu funeral: his corpse dragged through the streets while the locals throw rocks at it.

Spanglemaker on March 6, 2008 at 9:16 AM

Ah the old bait and switch. Move your tanks to the border and then blame it on us in the U.S.. This guy is a childish toad.

Geronimo on March 6, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Chavez is a classic socialist dictator. And a classic liberal – thinking and acting like a child.

He needs to be spanked and sent to a corner. Then his people will finally have enough and oust him themselves.

Grafted on March 6, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Chavez is a war crime.

JayVee on March 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM

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