So, how do you decide who is on top and who is on the bottom………..of the ticket?

If Obama doesn’t get the nomination, don’t expect him on the bottom of the ticket — and don’t expect his backers to endorse unity, either. Expect a meltdown.

I’m hopin’ and wishin’ and prayin’.

It would be considered a slap in the face, they would turn on him and the party. No VP for Barry.

Obviously she would never take VP – her ego wouldn’t allow it and neither would Michelle.

I am reading rumors that many super delegates are going to go public with an Obama endorsement. That would make Hillary’s continued efforts to hurt the party moot, keep the black vote, and prevent those riots that everyone seems so interested in watching.

Yes, Meltdown indeed.

I think McCain has it in the bag, unless he gets cocky…

Clinton gets the nom, Obama supporters stay home, or vote Nader. Obama gets the nom – Hillary people vote for McCain or Nader.

reaganaut on March 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Don’t get me wrong, I really, really hope you are right. I’m still worried though.

There are nearly 800 Super-Ds, MrLynn, and I don’t believe that their votes are official until they’re cast. Unless one of the two candidates gives up or is effectively disqualified (by disastrous performances, disastrous polls, disastrous scandals, etc.), then who or what’s going to bring them together? Chaos sooner, chaos later, or chaos both sooner and later are the only alternatives barring some decisive event or series of events.

The only question is how much of a formality the actual balloting will be.

CK MacLeod on March 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

That’s a valid critique of Severin’s theory. I think he was saying that a subset of the super-delegates, which he calls the ‘party elders’, will be forced to step in and negotiate a deal, which would result in one candidate dropping out in return for the second spot on the ticket.

Given the strong possibility of a ‘meltdown’ if the two candidates continued battling, more or less evenly, until the convention, I would not be surprised to see something like this happen. If the Democrat party elders decide that it would be intolerable to proceed without a deal, surely they will make the attempt.

MrLynn on March 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

So the Michigan/Florida delegate card doesn’t get played? Resolve it before then? It does make sense, but how much enthusiasm is the ticket going to lose from ticked off Obama groupies if he has to play second fiddle? He’s a young guy, sure, but we’ve got Bobby Jindal warning up in the bullpen, and Obama is a smart guy, he knows going up against Jindal would be trouble.

The only question is how much of a formality the actual balloting will be.

I think McCain has it in the bag, unless he gets cocky…

Clinton gets the nom, Obama supporters stay home, or vote Nader. Obama gets the nom – Hillary people vote for McCain or Nader.

let me be real blunt. If Hillary Clinton walks out of the convention the nominee the Obama supports, especially the African-American community, will go ballistic.

That would be true, if nothing changed between now and the end of the Summer, or if the convention was next week. But this thing has months still to play out. If Barack tanks in the polls, his supporters will begin to turn on him, and if his supporters turn on him, he will tank in the polls. If he adds another week or two that are as bad for him as the last couple, if he panics just a little, makes some new mistakes, has to endure further or re-extended revelations, employs poorly received tactics, etc. – then the mob will destroy him even more quickly than they built him up. That’s how these things work. It could get easy for the Super-Ds to take it away from Hillary if they need to, but even the seemingly impossible math could start working.

This is gonna be fun.

Mommy, I’m scared of the dark.

Oops, now I’m a racist I guess.

Oh man, that was bad. But quite funny.

Like the man said, “Pass the popcorn.

It oughta be Pay Per View. Chicago 68 will look like
a church picnic by comparison!

When was the last time a GOP candidate took WA anyway? 1984?

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Unfortunately, I agree with Atilla. If the VP job is offered to Obama he’ll take it.

But how does he accept this position when he will still be leading in the delegate count? Yours and Atilla’s, repectfully, have to assume that Hillary will have a some sort of a lead that does not conflict with Obama’s constituents—followers.

I like what John Kassick just said: “It will be like a firing squad in a circle.”

Three words: “Boeing; tanker deal.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/this-thing-will.html

He’d be a fool to refuse. So either he needs to get real ugly so the Clintons would never want him around, or Hillary needs to get even uglier so the Obama supporters won’t but it if he accepts the offer.